Current Events > Will Taylor Swift's album Red ever be topped?

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It's crazy that they gave 1989 AOTY but not Red. I'm guessing the Grammy people were feeling mad guilty for snubbing it.
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Yes
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1989 is absolutely better than Red.
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I like Red and 1989 about the same. Both 5 star albums for me.
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Red is dog shit.
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YookaLaylee posted...

Yes

you think Reputation will do it?

btw this is so beautiful

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WIPVSrkXugs

Idk who the eff Vince Gil even is but his voice is really cool.
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bump for opinions and stuff
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Well, Taylor Swift only has 1 good song, so yes. Any 6/10 or higher album has already topped it.
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DarkChozoGhost posted...

Well, Taylor Swift only has 1 good song, so yes. Any 6/10 or higher album has already topped it.

I won't agree with your premise but how can you rate an album with only one good song as anything close to 6/10?
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lilORANG posted...

you think Reputation will do it?

yeah
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I wrote review for Red for a site when it came out. Here is that review. Part 1 of 2

I personally love female vocalists. I am also not ashamed to admit that I really like catchy Top 40 pop music. For those reasons, I am a pretty big Taylor Swift fan, and therefore got really excited when I got to listen to her new album Red. However, as I listened through the tracks my excitement slowly died song by song as I realized that Red is not only Swifts worst album to date, but just an overall bad album.
The first single off of Red is We Are Never Ever Getting Back Together which happens to be one of my favorite tracks. It is catchy and upbeat pop song that makes you want to dance around a little. However it is in no way a representation of what the majority of the album is like. If there were more songs like it I might really like Red, but there arent.
Many people have criticized Swift in the past for the lack of originality and variety in her lyrics. They say that that she sings about the same things over and over again, but to be honest I never really paid attention to those complaints. I would always just say that she writes fun songs that people can relate to and keep listening. However, after listening to Red I am starting to agree with some of her detractors. Out of the 16 tracks on Red, I feel fairly confident in saying that 10 of the songs are definitely Swift singing about past relationships. 10 of 16 songs are her singing about her exes or what could have been, and actually an argument could be made for a couple more songs are about this same topic. Now she has sung about break-ups before, and I liked some of those songs, but after hearing so many about the same topic on one album I just got sick of it. Now if these songs about past relationships were good I would probably excuse the repetitiveness of the topic, but the real problem is they are not good. They are almost all slow and whiny. And they just keep coming one after another, all slowly killing my enjoyment of the album along the way. The barrage starts with the 1st track State of Grace and never really lets up. By the time I had gotten to Sad Beautiful Tragic which is the 12th (and by far my least favorite) track I really didnt know if I could take anymore. I mean do I really want to spend my time listening to some girl trying to sound as depressing as possible by vocally moping about lost love? I mean she literally beats a dead horse, breaks up with it, and then beats it some more. Even taking into consideration the songs off of the album that I like the dour mood established is just too much to overcome.

continued in the next post
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yea the next Weird Al Yankovic album will top it

Part 2 of 2 of my Red review

While most of the album is Swift whining about her exes there are a few songs that venture into different aspects of life. One of those tracks is 22, which is a song about going out and having a good time. I feel it is Swifts first straight-up attempt at an up tempo song that could be played in a club. Now as someone who usually enjoys this type of songs, I will say that 22 isnt half bad, but there are just so many artists that do this kind of song better that I really have no need to go to Swift when I am in the mood for one.
My favorite song off the album is Stay Stay Stay. I guess some could say the chorus is uncreative and repetitive, but I feel that it is catchy enough that it slowly seeped its way into my brain and I was happily singing along with it whenever it came on. While it is still a pop song there are certain aspects of it that remind me of Swifts most country songs. I could easily imagine Miranda Lambert or Sara Evans singing it and hearing it on a country radio station.
There are two duets on the album, The Last Time featuring Gary Lightbody of Snow Patrol, and Know You Better featuring Ed Sheeran. I actually think that both of these songs work better than most of the Swift solo songs on Red. I am not a fan of Snow Patrol or Ed Sheeran so I cant say if these songs are reminiscent of those artists other works. However I think that The Last Time is the better of the duets, even though both of them are a little depressing.
Another song that I like is Starlight. I think the reason I like this song so much is the fact that the lyrics make me think that Taylor Swift actually likes her life (unlike most of Red). Instead of singing about breaking up, she is singing about falling in love. I think the positive tone of the lyrics really rubbed off on me and put a smile on my face while listening to it. It might sound a little odd to say (well maybe not since they lyrics are about dancing with somebody you like), but I think Starlight could end up being the theme song for high school homecoming dances in the years to come.
Music is a very subjective thing, we all know that. Because of that I understand that some people will really like this album, I am just not one of them. To me the music of Red is too slow and meandering, and the lyrics are so repetitive that it borders on of self-parody (or at least parodying peoples conceptions of her song). Maybe it all boils down to the fact that I am just not the target audience for this record. I mean if I was a 13 year old girl who just broke up with her first boyfriend I would probably put this album on repeat for a month straight. However as a listener who has enjoyed all her previous efforts I am just a little disappointed I dont feel the same way about this one.
The only thing I know for sure after listening to Red, is that Taylor Swift is really bad at relationships.


By far her worst album.
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lilORANG posted...

you think Reputation will do it?

yeah

That'd be hype af tbh. I do like the singles she's released so far, and I thought We are Never Getting Back Together was one of the weaker tracks on Red so I guess Reputation is ahead in that regard.....but I mean Red has State of Grace, Starlight, I Almost Do, All To Well, Holy Ground...............all 12/10 songs.
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The beginning of the end of my love for Taylor

She still af doe.
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I don't know which I prefer between Red and 1989. I doubt Reputation passes either based on what we have heard so far.
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1989 was better than Red. Both were good though.
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lilORANG posted...

DarkChozoGhost posted...

Well, Taylor Swift only has 1 good song, so yes. Any 6/10 or higher album has already topped it.

I won't agree with your premise but how can you rate an album with only one good song as anything close to 6/10?

I'm saying that Taylor Swift albums are 5/10 at best.
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DarkChozoGhost posted...

lilORANG posted...

DarkChozoGhost posted...

Well, Taylor Swift only has 1 good song, so yes. Any 6/10 or higher album has already topped it.

I won't agree with your premise but how can you rate an album with only one good song as anything close to 6/10?

I'm saying that Taylor Swift albums are 5/10 at best.

i understand what you're saying but i don't understand your ratings system. An album with only 1 good song is like a 2/10 in my book.
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Which one had Style on it?

Ruvan22 posted...

Which one had Style on it?

1989
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lilORANG posted...

It's crazy that they gave 1989 AOTY but not Red. I'm guessing the Grammy people were feeling mad guilty for snubbing it.

didn't 1989 sell way more?

SamuelHayden posted...

lilORANG posted...

It's crazy that they gave 1989 AOTY but not Red. I'm guessing the Grammy people were feeling mad guilty for snubbing it.

didn't 1989 sell way more?

yes.
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everything she does is terrible
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1989 is her best work
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billcom6 posted...

not that I think the review paints an unfairly negative picture of the album, but... that is still not a good review
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