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Darkman124 10/19/17 8:07:45 PM #1:	https://www.battleforthenet.com pai is 100% going to end net neutrality and the GOP senators are going to ignore your calls and/or read a script back to you about how theyve already accepted the bribes but it's important to have made an effort --- And when the hourglass has run out, eternity asks you about only one thing: whether you have lived in despair or not. <cite>Darkman124 posted [p:888758792] in if you act... [t:75897956]...</cite> <quote>https://www.battleforthenet.com pai is 100% going to end net neutrality and the GOP senators are going to ignore your calls and/or read a script back to you about how theyve already accepted the bribes but it's important to have made an effort</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
3khc 10/19/17 8:08:27 PM #2:	Why is net neutrality a bad thing again --- ---- ----- <cite>3khc posted [p:888758845] in if you act... [t:75897956]...</cite> <quote>Why is net neutrality a bad thing again</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NeverOffended 10/19/17 8:10:26 PM #3:	3khc posted... Why is net neutrality a bad thing again for 5.99 I can tell you the answer, otherwise you can pay 19.99 for an all inclusive CE answer to your questions package <cite>NeverOffended posted [p:888758985] in if you act... [t:75897956]...</cite> <quote><cite>3khc posted...</cite> <quote>Why is net neutrality a bad thing again</quote> for 5.99 I can tell you the answer, otherwise you can pay 19.99 for an all inclusive CE answer to your questions package</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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3khc 10/19/17 8:12:21 PM #5:	Oh yeah. Fuck that shit. Who in the entire world would want this to pass? --- ---- ----- <cite>3khc posted [p:888759116] in if you act... [t:75897956]...</cite> <quote>Oh yeah. Fuck that shit. Who in the entire world would want this to pass?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hortanz 10/19/17 8:13:29 PM #6:	3khc posted... Why is net neutrality a bad thing again My loose understanding of it is that it'll give ISPs the ability to sell internet packages kind of akin to what cable companies are doing now. So you pay for a social media package that gives you access to facebook, twitter, etc and a video package that gives you youtube, netflix, hulu and so on I could be way off the mark though --- http://i.imgur.com/JFmtaHB.gif <cite>hortanz posted [p:888759189] in if you act... [t:75897956]...</cite> <quote><cite>3khc posted...</cite> <quote>Why is net neutrality a bad thing again</quote> My loose understanding of it is that it'll give ISPs the ability to sell internet packages kind of akin to what cable companies are doing now. So you pay for a social media package that gives you access to facebook, twitter, etc and a video package that gives you youtube, netflix, hulu and so on I could be way off the mark though</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DK9292 10/19/17 8:13:52 PM #7:	3khc posted... Why is net neutrality a bad thing again It's not. It's a good thing. That's why companies are trying to abolish it. Basically, net neutrality means that when you buy access to the internet, you get access to the internet. Without it, service providers can adjust what you get access to and charge you accordingly. Example: So if you want to access GameFAQs, you'd need to buy their Gaming Internet bundle, while if you want Youtube you'd need to buy their Video Site bundle. --- "If the heroes run and hide, who'll stay and fight?" ~Saitama <cite>DK9292 posted [p:888759209] in if you act... [t:75897956]...</cite> <quote><cite>3khc posted...</cite> <quote>Why is net neutrality a bad thing again</quote> It's not. It's a good thing. That's why companies are trying to abolish it. Basically, net neutrality means that when you buy access to the internet, you get access to the internet. Without it, service providers can adjust what you get access to and charge you accordingly. Example: So if you want to access GameFAQs, you'd need to buy their Gaming Internet bundle, while if you want Youtube you'd need to buy their Video Site bundle.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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emblem boy 10/19/17 8:17:04 PM #9:	hortanz posted... 3khc posted... Why is net neutrality a bad thing again My loose understanding of it is that it'll give ISPs the ability to sell internet packages kind of akin to what cable companies are doing now. So you pay for a social media package that gives you access to facebook, twitter, etc and a video package that gives you youtube, netflix, hulu and so on I could be way off the mark though That's what cell phone providers do in certain countries right? I was in Nigeria and when I was buying a Sim card, they had various plans for data that were tailored to certain apps or features --- Posted with GameRaven 3.3 <cite>emblem boy posted [p:888759380] in if you act... [t:75897956]...</cite> <quote><cite>hortanz posted...</cite> <quote><cite>3khc posted...</cite> <quote> Why is net neutrality a bad thing again</quote> My loose understanding of it is that it'll give ISPs the ability to sell internet packages kind of akin to what cable companies are doing now. So you pay for a social media package that gives you access to facebook, twitter, etc and a video package that gives you youtube, netflix, hulu and so on I could be way off the mark though</quote> That's what cell phone providers do in certain countries right? I was in Nigeria and when I was buying a Sim card, they had various plans for data that were tailored to certain apps or features</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pinky0926 10/19/17 8:18:04 PM #10:	-Gavirulax- posted... 3khc posted... Why is net neutrality a bad thing again I'm still not very sure either, granted I haven't been keeping track of it since...you know, Australia. Imagine the internet is a government owned highway. There's 4 lanes. You can use all 4 lanes freely, and this system allows everyone to travel along at the same speed and quickly get to work. Then a private company buys out the road. They close one of the lanes and slow down the speed limit for the remaining 3 lanes. Now everyone is stuck going at snail pace on their drive to work, and it's frustrating and shit for all. Finally, they open up that last lane again to premium road users. They tell you that it's the fast lane, and if you want to pay a little extra you can use it. After all, it's a premium service so why shouldn't it be a premium rate? That's this argument in a nutshell. And "free market" gurus will tell you this is good for business, because these private companies have your best interests at heart. But they don't, because fuck you. --- CE's Resident Scotsman. http://i.imgur.com/ILz2ZbV.jpg <cite>pinky0926 posted [p:888759451] in if you act... [t:75897956]...</cite> <quote><cite>-Gavirulax- posted...</cite> <quote><cite>3khc posted...</cite> <quote>Why is net neutrality a bad thing again</quote> I'm still not very sure either, granted I haven't been keeping track of it since...you know, Australia.</quote> Imagine the internet is a government owned highway. There's 4 lanes. You can use all 4 lanes freely, and this system allows everyone to travel along at the same speed and quickly get to work. Then a private company buys out the road. They close one of the lanes and slow down the speed limit for the remaining 3 lanes. Now everyone is stuck going at snail pace on their drive to work, and it's frustrating and shit for all. Finally, they open up that last lane again to premium road users. They tell you that it's the fast lane, and if you want to pay a little extra you can use it. After all, it's a premium service so why shouldn't it be a premium rate? That's this argument in a nutshell. And "free market" gurus will tell you this is good for business, because these private companies have your best interests at heart. But they don't, because fuck you.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ROBANN_88 10/19/17 8:18:57 PM #11:	this shit again? haven't we already done this like 25 times in the past few years? --- http://i.imgur.com/cUNC8DI.jpg <cite>ROBANN_88 posted [p:888759496] in if you act... [t:75897956]...</cite> <quote>this shit again? haven't we already done this like 25 times in the past few years?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hortanz 10/19/17 8:19:13 PM #12:	emblem boy posted... That's what cell phone providers do in certain countries right? I was in Nigeria and when I was buying a Sim card, they had various plans for data that were tailored to certain apps or features I know that's still a thing in some parts of the Caribbean. There's vaguely similar things in America too, like I'm pretty sure spotify and netflix don't use data on tmobile --- http://i.imgur.com/JFmtaHB.gif <cite>hortanz posted [p:888759517] in if you act... [t:75897956]...</cite> <quote><cite>emblem boy posted...</cite> <quote>That's what cell phone providers do in certain countries right? I was in Nigeria and when I was buying a Sim card, they had various plans for data that were tailored to certain apps or features </quote> I know that's still a thing in some parts of the Caribbean. There's vaguely similar things in America too, like I'm pretty sure spotify and netflix don't use data on tmobile</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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pinky0926 10/19/17 8:24:11 PM #14:	-Gavirulax- posted... Yeah, as I said with my other reply, it's....just no. I can understand why companies want the to do that shit...but fuck off, no way. Also I'm sure you remember Telstra from when you lived in Australia, but they do something similar like that with my (former) Cable, now NBN, where you pay for speed increases and shit (boosts, as they call them). Even though my "fast" connection doesn't actually work atm...lol Australia had easily the most embarrassing internet speeds I've ever experienced in the 1st world, so yeah I remember sitting on netflix trying to get a video to load and wondering why I was paying $70 a month for this shit. --- CE's Resident Scotsman. http://i.imgur.com/ILz2ZbV.jpg <cite>pinky0926 posted [p:888759797] in if you act... [t:75897956]...</cite> <quote><cite>-Gavirulax- posted...</cite> <quote>Yeah, as I said with my other reply, it's....just no. I can understand why companies want the to do that shit...but fuck off, no way. Also I'm sure you remember Telstra from when you lived in Australia, but they do something similar like that with my (former) Cable, now NBN, where you pay for speed increases and shit (boosts, as they call them). Even though my "fast" connection doesn't actually work atm...lol</quote> Australia had easily the most embarrassing internet speeds I've ever experienced in the 1st world, so yeah I remember sitting on netflix trying to get a video to load and wondering why I was paying $70 a month for this shit.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Teen Girl Squad 10/19/17 8:24:15 PM #15:	They are also going to use it to black mail bigger sites like Youtube/Facebook to give them a cut or else they cut the speed. Pretty much there is almost no reason for net neutrality to be removed except these companies want to take their government monopolies and further use it to make more money for doing nothing else. --- "Rest of league playing checkers, Chargers playing E-Sports." Drug_Smoker. <cite>Teen Girl Squad posted [p:888759799] in if you act... [t:75897956]...</cite> <quote>They are also going to use it to black mail bigger sites like Youtube/Facebook to give them a cut or else they cut the speed. Pretty much there is almost no reason for net neutrality to be removed except these companies want to take their government monopolies and further use it to make more money for doing nothing else.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Axiom 10/19/17 8:24:29 PM #16:	3khc posted... Oh yeah. Fuck that shit. Who in the entire world would want this to pass? The people that will get rich off of it <cite>Axiom posted [p:888759812] in if you act... [t:75897956]...</cite> <quote><cite>3khc posted...</cite> <quote>Oh yeah. Fuck that shit. Who in the entire world would want this to pass?</quote> The people that will get rich off of it</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pls 10/19/17 8:24:41 PM #17:	hopefully the legislation goes through <cite>pls posted [p:888759825] in if you act... [t:75897956]...</cite> <quote>hopefully the legislation goes through</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pinky0926 10/19/17 8:25:41 PM #18:	3khc posted... Oh yeah. Fuck that shit. Who in the entire world would want this to pass? Senators who are being paid off by lobbyists who can make a gazillion more by microtransactioning everything you do. --- CE's Resident Scotsman. http://i.imgur.com/ILz2ZbV.jpg <cite>pinky0926 posted [p:888759884] in if you act... [t:75897956]...</cite> <quote><cite>3khc posted...</cite> <quote>Oh yeah. Fuck that shit. Who in the entire world would want this to pass?</quote> Senators who are being paid off by lobbyists who can make a gazillion more by microtransactioning everything you do.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheBiggerWiggle 10/19/17 8:27:35 PM #19:	Net neutrality is the most blatant evidence that our government doesn't give a shit about its citizens and only wants to line their own pockets with money. Getting rid of neutrality benifits literally no one except for ISP execs and whatever politicians are in their pockets. --- I have trouble concentrating because I have 80HD. <cite>TheBiggerWiggle posted [p:888759968] in if you act... [t:75897956]...</cite> <quote>Net neutrality is the most blatant evidence that our government doesn't give a shit about its citizens and only wants to line their own pockets with money. Getting rid of neutrality benifits literally no one except for ISP execs and whatever politicians are in their pockets.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ArtVandelay 10/19/17 8:28:30 PM #20:	this ain't going to be pretty if it goes through. --- Vandelay Industries Importing & Exporting <cite>ArtVandelay posted [p:888760023] in if you act... [t:75897956]...</cite> <quote>this ain't going to be pretty if it goes through.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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I4NRulez 10/19/17 8:30:16 PM #22:	ROBANN_88 posted... this s* again? yes but i'm pretty sure trump has people in place who are in favor of the business. --- The night brims with defiled scum,and is permeated by their rotten stench. Just think. Now you're all set to hunt and kill to your heart's content. <cite>I4NRulez posted [p:888760108] in if you act... [t:75897956]...</cite> <quote><cite>ROBANN_88 posted...</cite> <quote>this s* again? </quote> yes but i'm pretty sure trump has people in place who are in favor of the business.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LightningAce11 10/19/17 8:30:49 PM #23:	ArtVandelay posted... this ain't going to be pretty if it goes through. I hope there are riots if it does. --- "I'm an atheist too but still believe in hell. That's where you're headed pal." - Mr_Karate_II <cite>LightningAce11 posted [p:888760142] in if you act... [t:75897956]...</cite> <quote><cite>ArtVandelay posted...</cite> <quote>this ain't going to be pretty if it goes through.</quote> I hope there are riots if it does.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
K181 10/19/17 8:32:15 PM #24:	My elected representatives are already against it, and if I called other offices they'd just ignore me as an out of district caller. --- The poster formerly known as Kakarot181: July 2, 2002 - March 14, 2012. Irregardless, for all intensive purposes, I could care less. <cite>K181 posted [p:888760229] in if you act... [t:75897956]...</cite> <quote>My elected representatives are already against it, and if I called other offices they'd just ignore me as an out of district caller.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
P4wn4g3 10/19/17 8:35:18 PM #25:	Who do I call --- Hive Mind of Dark Aether, the unofficial Metroid Social Private board. https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/851-dark-aether <cite>P4wn4g3 posted [p:888760406] in if you act... [t:75897956]...</cite> <quote>Who do I call</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Polycosm 10/19/17 8:40:57 PM #26:	Telecoms are shameless. They and their political stooges tried to pass a bill in California this year, stripping the public of their public rights-of-way. SB 649 would have given telecoms the right to install refrigerator-sized equipment on any city-owned property or vertical infrastructure (utility poles, street lights, commercial buildings) at a rental rate capped thousands of dollars below the per-pole market rate. Under the bill, cities would have had absolutely no ability to say "no" and no ability to negotiate the price. The bill was effectively a massive subsidy for an industry that's already fantastically wealthy due to its monopoly power. Thankfully, our governor vetoed it. It was easily the most crass bill out of the thousand-or-so that made it out of the state legislature this year. Absolutely disgraceful. --- BKSheikah owned me so thoroughly in the 2017 guru contest, I'd swear he used the Lens of Truth to pick his bracket. (thengamer.com/guru) <cite>Polycosm posted [p:888760739] in if you act... [t:75897956]...</cite> <quote>Telecoms are shameless. They and their political stooges tried to pass a bill in California this year, stripping the public of their public rights-of-way. SB 649 would have given telecoms the right to install refrigerator-sized equipment on any city-owned property or vertical infrastructure (utility poles, street lights, commercial buildings) at a rental rate capped thousands of dollars below the per-pole market rate. Under the bill, cities would have had absolutely no ability to say "no" and no ability to negotiate the price. The bill was effectively a massive subsidy for an industry that's already fantastically wealthy due to its monopoly power. Thankfully, our governor vetoed it. It was easily the most crass bill out of the thousand-or-so that made it out of the state legislature this year. Absolutely disgraceful.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FreedomEtrtment 10/20/17 3:13:08 AM #27:	Yep, fuck them <cite>FreedomEtrtment posted [p:888779367] in if you act... [t:75897956]...</cite> <quote>Yep, fuck them</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Bat178 10/20/17 3:58:04 AM #28:	What about Canada and Europe? While this is only for Net Neutrality in the US (Other countries will still have it), most websites are based in the US, so would that still screw the internet over even for Canada and Europe? --- Awww, isn't that cute? He thinks he can beat me! <cite>Bat178 posted [p:888780393] in if you act... [t:75897956]...</cite> <quote>What about Canada and Europe? While this is only for Net Neutrality in the US (Other countries will still have it), most websites are based in the US, so would that still screw the internet over even for Canada and Europe?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Polycosm 10/20/17 4:13:17 AM #29:	Bat178 posted... What about Canada and Europe? While this is only for Net Neutrality in the US (Other countries will still have it), most websites are based in the US, so would that still screw the internet over even for Canada and Europe? Frontier, AT&T, and other major US providers don't own the entire internet backbone-- far from it. They meet with Canadian ISPs at a few major exchange points (e.g. Toronto). These exchange points are governed by international contracts (known as "peering agreements" or "transit agreements"). The FCC currently has zero involvement in these negotiations and these agreements usually involve a monetary exchange. Presumably, the termination of net neutrality will make US providers even more powerful, but it's hard to say what the measurable effects will be. A host of other companies own the transoceanic cables to Europe and Asia. My guess is that they have way more leverage than the Canadian exchange point operators, but I don't know for sure. I doubt that Europe or Asia will see any change. And no way will any noticeable effect make it past the Chinese firewall, imo. --- BKSheikah owned me so thoroughly in the 2017 guru contest, I'd swear he used the Lens of Truth to pick his bracket. (thengamer.com/guru) <cite>Polycosm posted [p:888780713] in if you act... [t:75897956]...</cite> <quote><cite>Bat178 posted...</cite> <quote>What about Canada and Europe? While this is only for Net Neutrality in the US (Other countries will still have it), most websites are based in the US, so would that still screw the internet over even for Canada and Europe?</quote> Frontier, AT&T, and other major US providers don't own the entire internet backbone-- far from it. They meet with Canadian ISPs at a few major exchange points (e.g. Toronto). These exchange points are governed by international contracts (known as "peering agreements" or "transit agreements"). The FCC currently has zero involvement in these negotiations and these agreements usually involve a monetary exchange. Presumably, the termination of net neutrality will make US providers even more powerful, but it's hard to say what the measurable effects will be. A host of other companies own the transoceanic cables to Europe and Asia. My guess is that they have way more leverage than the Canadian exchange point operators, but I don't know for sure. I doubt that Europe or Asia will see any change. And no way will any noticeable effect make it past the Chinese firewall, imo.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Hinakuluiau 10/21/17 10:41:58 PM #31:	On the plus side, it will be upheld in court. It'll be messy for a bit, but eventually it'll go back to normal. --- There are some things where I just bypass critical thinking. - ROD http://error1355.com/ce/Hinakuluiau.html <cite>Hinakuluiau posted [p:888884200] in if you act... [t:75897956]...</cite> <quote>On the plus side, it will be upheld in court. It'll be messy for a bit, but eventually it'll go back to normal.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
josifrees 10/21/17 10:46:33 PM #32:	We should boycott all the internet providers!! That will show them we mean business!!! --- Quit Crying <cite>josifrees posted [p:888884456] in if you act... [t:75897956]...</cite> <quote>We should boycott all the internet providers!! That will show them we mean business!!! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The_Juice_ 10/21/17 11:05:32 PM #33:	pinky0926 posted... -Gavirulax- posted... 3khc posted... Why is net neutrality a bad thing again I'm still not very sure either, granted I haven't been keeping track of it since...you know, Australia. Imagine the internet is a government owned highway. There's 4 lanes. You can use all 4 lanes freely, and this system allows everyone to travel along at the same speed and quickly get to work. Then a private company buys out the road. They close one of the lanes and slow down the speed limit for the remaining 3 lanes. Now everyone is stuck going at snail pace on their drive to work, and it's frustrating and shit for all. Finally, they open up that last lane again to premium road users. They tell you that it's the fast lane, and if you want to pay a little extra you can use it. After all, it's a premium service so why shouldn't it be a premium rate? That's this argument in a nutshell. And "free market" gurus will tell you this is good for business, because these private companies have your best interests at heart. But they don't, because fuck you. Ironically this is what FastTrak lanes are doing on actual freeways here in Southern California. --- Difference in men & women: http://i.imgur.com/kHCwK2p.jpg Broncos l Raptors l Dodgers l Maple Leafs l UCLA <cite>The_Juice_ posted [p:888885455] in if you act... [t:75897956]...</cite> <quote><cite>pinky0926 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>-Gavirulax- posted...</cite> <quote><cite>3khc posted...</cite> <quote>Why is net neutrality a bad thing again</quote> I'm still not very sure either, granted I haven't been keeping track of it since...you know, Australia.</quote> Imagine the internet is a government owned highway. There's 4 lanes. You can use all 4 lanes freely, and this system allows everyone to travel along at the same speed and quickly get to work. Then a private company buys out the road. They close one of the lanes and slow down the speed limit for the remaining 3 lanes. Now everyone is stuck going at snail pace on their drive to work, and it's frustrating and shit for all. Finally, they open up that last lane again to premium road users. They tell you that it's the fast lane, and if you want to pay a little extra you can use it. After all, it's a premium service so why shouldn't it be a premium rate? That's this argument in a nutshell. And "free market" gurus will tell you this is good for business, because these private companies have your best interests at heart. But they don't, because fuck you.</quote> Ironically this is what FastTrak lanes are doing on actual freeways here in Southern California.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
armandro 10/21/17 11:11:07 PM #34:	You people are being tricked. --- http://i.imgur.com/sKghEcP.gif 8 October, 2023 <cite>armandro posted [p:888885763] in if you act... [t:75897956]...</cite> <quote>You people are being tricked.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FreedomEtrtment 10/24/17 12:19:00 AM #35:	armandro posted... You people are being tricked. Care to elaborate? <cite>FreedomEtrtment posted [p:889023820] in if you act... [t:75897956]...</cite> <quote><cite>armandro posted...</cite> <quote>You people are being tricked.</quote> Care to elaborate?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FreedomEtrtment 10/26/17 6:56:02 AM #36:	armandro posted... You people are being tricked. Care to elaborate? <cite>FreedomEtrtment posted [p:889170417] in if you act... [t:75897956]...</cite> <quote><cite>armandro posted...</cite> <quote>You people are being tricked.</quote> Care to elaborate?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
tremain07 10/26/17 9:46:30 AM #37:	https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20171023/10383838460/fcc-likely-to-use-thanksgiving-holiday-to-hide-unpopular-plan-to-kill-net-neutrality.shtml It's over, they won. hope you have enough money to get those saving bundles and slow speeds. --- I got nothing <cite>tremain07 posted [p:889175872] in if you act... [t:75897956]...</cite> <quote>https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20171023/10383838460/fcc-likely-to-use-thanksgiving-holiday-to-hide-unpopular-plan-to-kill-net-neutrality.shtml It's over, they won. hope you have enough money to get those saving bundles and slow speeds.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Funkydog 10/26/17 9:48:34 AM #38:	ROBANN_88 posted... this shit again? haven't we already done this like 25 times in the past few years? Yes. And it will keep being pushed until it passes. --- http://i.imgur.com/BGbZK.gif <cite>Funkydog posted [p:889175963] in if you act... [t:75897956]...</cite> <quote><cite>ROBANN_88 posted...</cite> <quote>this shit again? haven't we already done this like 25 times in the past few years?</quote> Yes. And it will keep being pushed until it passes.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
tremain07 10/26/17 9:49:46 AM #39:	Yup, public dislike is no match for the power of infinite money lobbyists. Welcome to the future --- I got nothing <cite>tremain07 posted [p:889176005] in if you act... [t:75897956]...</cite> <quote>Yup, public dislike is no match for the power of infinite money lobbyists. Welcome to the future </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Kisai 10/26/17 9:51:07 AM #41:	Apparently one country already has net neutrality already taken away, and this is what their internet looks like now: https://i.imgur.com/FwCIsF5_d.jpg?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=medium --- WHO MODS THE MODERATORS? <cite>Kisai posted [p:889176066] in if you act... [t:75897956]...</cite> <quote>Apparently one country already has net neutrality already taken away, and this is what their internet looks like now: https://i.imgur.com/FwCIsF5_d.jpg?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=medium</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tmaster148 10/26/17 9:51:33 AM #42:	Asherlee10 posted... I don't get why the FCC is going in this direction. Why isn't the internet a utility? Because that's not what ISPs want. --- http://i.imgur.com/BBcZDLJ.png <cite>Tmaster148 posted [p:889176088] in if you act... [t:75897956]...</cite> <quote><cite>Asherlee10 posted...</cite> <quote>I don't get why the FCC is going in this direction. Why isn't the internet a utility?</quote> Because that's not what ISPs want.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
E32005 10/26/17 9:52:39 AM #43:	ROBANN_88 posted... this shit again? haven't we already done this like 25 times in the past few years? I have --- http://i.imgur.com/LAvnefi.gif http://i.imgur.com/6kW9fXL.gif <cite>E32005 posted [p:889176129] in if you act... [t:75897956]...</cite> <quote><cite>ROBANN_88 posted...</cite> <quote>this shit again? haven't we already done this like 25 times in the past few years?</quote> I have</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
tremain07 10/26/17 9:52:55 AM #44:	and the FCC is extremely corrupted, they don't give a single fuck. --- I got nothing <cite>tremain07 posted [p:889176141] in if you act... [t:75897956]...</cite> <quote>and the FCC is extremely corrupted, they don't give a single fuck.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Funkydog 10/26/17 9:53:54 AM #45:	Asherlee10 posted... I don't get why the FCC is going in this direction. Why isn't the internet a utility? Because money is more important --- http://i.imgur.com/BGbZK.gif <cite>Funkydog posted [p:889176183] in if you act... [t:75897956]...</cite> <quote><cite>Asherlee10 posted...</cite> <quote>I don't get why the FCC is going in this direction. Why isn't the internet a utility?</quote> Because money is more important</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 10/26/17 9:56:06 AM #46:	pinky0926 posted... Imagine the internet is a government owned highway. There's 4 lanes. You can use all 4 lanes freely, and this system allows everyone to travel along at the same speed and quickly get to work. Then a private company buys out the road. They close one of the lanes and slow down the speed limit for the remaining 3 lanes. Now everyone is stuck going at snail pace on their drive to work, and it's frustrating and shit for all. Finally, they open up that last lane again to premium road users. They tell you that it's the fast lane, and if you want to pay a little extra you can use it. After all, it's a premium service so why shouldn't it be a premium rate? That's this argument in a nutshell. And "free market" gurus will tell you this is good for business, because these private companies have your best interests at heart. But they don't, because fuck you. Why is this bad? <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:889176280] in if you act... [t:75897956]...</cite> <quote><cite>pinky0926 posted...</cite> <quote> Imagine the internet is a government owned highway. There's 4 lanes. You can use all 4 lanes freely, and this system allows everyone to travel along at the same speed and quickly get to work. Then a private company buys out the road. They close one of the lanes and slow down the speed limit for the remaining 3 lanes. Now everyone is stuck going at snail pace on their drive to work, and it's frustrating and shit for all. Finally, they open up that last lane again to premium road users. They tell you that it's the fast lane, and if you want to pay a little extra you can use it. After all, it's a premium service so why shouldn't it be a premium rate? That's this argument in a nutshell. And "free market" gurus will tell you this is good for business, because these private companies have your best interests at heart. But they don't, because fuck you.</quote> Why is this bad?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LightHawKnight 10/26/17 9:56:30 AM #47:	Asherlee10 posted... I don't get why the FCC is going in this direction. Why isn't the internet a utility? Same reason filing your taxes is a pain in the ass, companies pay for it to be so. Instead of Turbotax or HR Block, we have ISPs paying to make it suck. --- The Official Odin of the Shin Megami Tensei IV board. "You know how confusing the whole good-evil concept is for me." <cite>LightHawKnight posted [p:889176295] in if you act... [t:75897956]...</cite> <quote><cite>Asherlee10 posted...</cite> <quote>I don't get why the FCC is going in this direction. Why isn't the internet a utility?</quote> Same reason filing your taxes is a pain in the ass, companies pay for it to be so. Instead of Turbotax or HR Block, we have ISPs paying to make it suck.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FLUFFYGERM 10/26/17 9:56:46 AM #48:	Asherlee10 posted... I don't get why the FCC is going in this direction. Why isn't the internet a utility? https://www.nytimes.com/roomfordebate/2015/02/04/regulate-internet-providers/dont-make-the-internet-a-public-utility <cite>FLUFFYGERM posted [p:889176310] in if you act... [t:75897956]...</cite> <quote><cite>Asherlee10 posted...</cite> <quote>I don't get why the FCC is going in this direction. Why isn't the internet a utility?</quote> https://www.nytimes.com/roomfordebate/2015/02/04/regulate-internet-providers/dont-make-the-internet-a-public-utility</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
St0rmFury 10/26/17 9:59:09 AM #49:	Kisai posted... Apparently one country already has net neutrality already taken away, and this is what their internet looks like now: https://i.imgur.com/FwCIsF5_d.jpg?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=medium Hooolyyyyy shit --- "Average Joe" is a trolling term since it's completely an opinion. "Overachieving" is also an opinion. - SBAllen (Hellhole: 52458377) <cite>St0rmFury posted [p:889176411] in if you act... [t:75897956]...</cite> <quote><cite>Kisai posted...</cite> <quote>Apparently one country already has net neutrality already taken away, and this is what their internet looks like now: https://i.imgur.com/FwCIsF5_d.jpg?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=medium</quote> Hooolyyyyy shit</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 10/26/17 9:59:37 AM #50:	FLUFFYGERM posted... Asherlee10 posted... I don't get why the FCC is going in this direction. Why isn't the internet a utility? https://www.nytimes.com/roomfordebate/2015/02/04/regulate-internet-providers/dont-make-the-internet-a-public-utility The important part: Utilities, on the other hand, operate where it makes sense to have just one provider, because the costs of operating a second one are too high to justify the exercise. We regulate public utilities because they are, by definition, monopolies but the costs of regulation are high. Rather than business decisions being made in the marketplace, they are contrived by politicians and bureaucrats who are, in turn, influenced by the lobbying campaigns not just of the utilities but of everyone with a stake customers, suppliers and labor unions all get involved. Therefore, the correct course of action is to ban "municipal franchise" ISPs as a concept. Possibly also cable companies. Hell, just think about how much more competitive things would be if electricity and water weren't local monopolies. St0rmFury posted... Kisai posted... Apparently one country already has net neutrality already taken away, and this is what their internet looks like now: https://i.imgur.com/FwCIsF5_d.jpg?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=medium Hooolyyyyy shit That's mobile, which incidentally has never been "net neutral" here in 'Murica. <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:889176435] in if you act... [t:75897956]...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Asherlee10 posted...</cite> <quote>I don't get why the FCC is going in this direction. Why isn't the internet a utility?</quote> https://www.nytimes.com/roomfordebate/2015/02/04/regulate-internet-providers/dont-make-the-internet-a-public-utility</quote> The important part: <quote>Utilities, on the other hand, operate where it makes sense to have just one provider, because the costs of operating a second one are too high to justify the exercise. We regulate public utilities because they are, by definition, monopolies but the costs of regulation are high. Rather than business decisions being made in the marketplace, they are contrived by politicians and bureaucrats who are, in turn, influenced by the lobbying campaigns not just of the utilities but of everyone with a stake customers, suppliers and labor unions all get involved. </quote> Therefore, the correct course of action is to ban "municipal franchise" ISPs as a concept. Possibly also cable companies. Hell, just think about how much more competitive things would be if electricity and water weren't local monopolies. <cite>St0rmFury posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Kisai posted...</cite> <quote>Apparently one country already has net neutrality already taken away, and this is what their internet looks like now: https://i.imgur.com/FwCIsF5_d.jpg?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=medium</quote> Hooolyyyyy shit</quote> That's mobile, which incidentally has never been "net neutral" here in 'Murica.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
tremain07 10/26/17 10:00:38 AM #51:	LightHawKnight posted... Asherlee10 posted... I don't get why the FCC is going in this direction. Why isn't the internet a utility? Same reason filing your taxes is a pain in the ass, companies pay for it to be so. Instead of Turbotax or HR Block, we have ISPs paying to make it suck. Reminder we have those agencies because of lobbyists,too. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zV0dpCG-8go --- I got nothing <cite>tremain07 posted [p:889176480] in if you act... [t:75897956]...</cite> <quote><cite>LightHawKnight posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Asherlee10 posted...</cite> <quote>I don't get why the FCC is going in this direction. Why isn't the internet a utility?</quote> Same reason filing your taxes is a pain in the ass, companies pay for it to be so. Instead of Turbotax or HR Block, we have ISPs paying to make it suck.</quote> Reminder we have those agencies because of lobbyists,too. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zV0dpCG-8go</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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