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Awesome
10/13/17 1:14:02 PM
#51:


Senta posted...
I'm mostly curious about how they proved it happened as she said, and that she wasn't just lying after the fact. I didn't see any mention of proof in the article, though I did just quickly skim it.

And with him denying it, there has to be some sort of proof they have..


the only way this actually went forth is if there were marks on their breasts, a lot of women are messed up but i doubt the cops, lawyers and judge would let this get this far if there wasnt proof of damage. maybe her breasts were really purple or something.
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Caution999
10/13/17 1:14:29 PM
#52:


thelovefist posted...
Caution999 posted...
Also, I'm curious now...
When this was happening did she tell him to stop? I mean, that's all she would have to do...and then, technically it becomes rape if he continues.

Or did she just not say anything and give zero indication?
There's a lot to this that makes no sense.

Seneca_Wallace_ posted...
You also don't deserve to have your entire life ruined because you were a little too rough during consensual sex.

He didn't try to rape her. He didn't cause physical harm. How does he deserve to have his life ruined?

It's like neither of you read the OP.


So..technically this was rape then?

The OP is really confusing. He deserves what he gets then.
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Xelltrix
10/13/17 1:15:51 PM
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Like, on the one hand, she said not to do it so this is fair in a sense. But on the other, boy it must be difficult to control your impulses to reach out and grab durinf the act. I dunno, I definitely thinking filing a report over this was way too much...

Actually, the apparent level of force used according to the article does make it sound rather fair, next tbh.
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Irony
10/13/17 1:16:18 PM
#55:


Awesome posted...
Senta posted...
I'm mostly curious about how they proved it happened as she said, and that she wasn't just lying after the fact. I didn't see any mention of proof in the article, though I did just quickly skim it.

And with him denying it, there has to be some sort of proof they have..


but i doubt the cops, lawyers and judge would let this get this far if there wasnt proof

They literally do all of the time
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Barenziah Boy Toy
10/13/17 1:18:30 PM
#56:


N1NJAREB0RN posted...
He probably was being too rough and she didn't like that and told him and he didn't chill, but it's still kinda her fault too. Don't consent to sex with a man you are not at least fairly confident is going to treat you right, or in the way you want to be treated.

She doesn't deserve to be treated as such regardless - which is why the man has been charged and convicted.
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tennisdude818
10/13/17 1:19:11 PM
#57:


The UKs feminism infestation is probably only topped by Swedens.
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That_Happened
10/13/17 1:21:15 PM
#59:


Caution999 posted...
Personally I think the guy is an idiot for agreeing to sleep with the woman who put up this stipulation. That's a huge red flag to me. I would never sleep with a woman who wouldn't let me touch her breasts. Like, I understand if she didn't agree with *how* he was handling them...like being too rough or whatever...

A_Good_Boy posted...
Philip Queree, 37, was taken to court for repeatedly grabbing the woman's breasts hard and pulling her hair while the couple had intercourse.


Caution999 posted...
When this was happening did she tell him to stop? I mean, that's all she would have to do...and then, technically it becomes rape if he continues.

A_Good_Boy posted...
They found that he had forcibly grabbed the victim's breasts during sex on their second date after she had asked him not to do so.
"Queree knew this but continued to do so forcefully, causing the complainant considerable pain.


Caution999 posted...
The OP is really confusing.

Only if you can't/don't read.
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tennisdude818
10/13/17 1:25:28 PM
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Asherlee10 posted...
tennisdude818 posted...
The UKs infestation of feminism is probably only topped by Sweden.


I think you're confusing feminism with superiority of women. Feminism is about equality between the sexes.


The dictionary definition is less useful when talking about a group of political activists that have to find reasons to remain relevant.
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VipaGTS
10/13/17 1:28:02 PM
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So he didnt just grab her breast...he squeezed them too hard after she told him not to and pulled her hair excessively when she didnt want him too...

Just because someone agrees to have sex with you doesnt mean its a free for all.
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Nazanir
10/13/17 1:28:18 PM
#66:


That_Happened posted...
A_Good_Boy posted...
They found that he had forcibly grabbed the victim's breasts during sex on their second date after she had asked him not to do so.

I'm not seeing how this is anything other than fair, next.

You think it's fair to have his complete life ruined though? I am in agreement with the sentence, seems like the fairest of next. But the fact that he is socially/jobwise ruined seems way out of place.
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assassingriskel
10/13/17 1:29:15 PM
#67:


I give it 10 years before women accomplish their goal of male slavery
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Freddie_Mercury
10/13/17 1:29:54 PM
#68:


when did CE become /r/incel
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Questionmarktarius
10/13/17 1:30:54 PM
#69:


This is what happens when we conflate rape and child molestation with grab-ass and pissing behind a dumpster.
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MrNintendo1213
10/13/17 1:32:29 PM
#71:


Veggeta X posted...
Seneca_Wallace_ posted...
You also don't deserve to have your entire life ruined because you were a little too rough during consensual sex.

He didn't try to rape her. He didn't cause physical harm. How does he deserve to have his life ruined?

Yeah these SJWs seemed to have shut the fuck up once this was brought up.


Yes, he didn't rape her. That's why instead of going to jail for years he's getting community service.

He literally commited a crime and got punished for it, and yet you have to blame the victim. That's how we get shitheads like Weinstein.
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thelovefist
10/13/17 1:33:42 PM
#73:


Freddie_Mercury posted...
when did CE become /r/incel

Longer than the term 'incel' has existed I'm afraid.
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assassingriskel
10/13/17 1:34:02 PM
#74:


MrNintendo1213 posted...
Veggeta X posted...
Seneca_Wallace_ posted...
You also don't deserve to have your entire life ruined because you were a little too rough during consensual sex.

He didn't try to rape her. He didn't cause physical harm. How does he deserve to have his life ruined?

Yeah these SJWs seemed to have shut the fuck up once this was brought up.


Yes, he didn't rape her. That's why instead of going to jail for years he's getting community service.

He literally commited a crime and got punished for it, and yet you have to blame the victim. That's how we get shitheads like Weinstein.

Weinstein did nothing wrong
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That_Happened
10/13/17 1:35:22 PM
#75:


Seneca_Wallace posted...
You also don't deserve to have your entire life ruined

Exaggerate, GO!

because you were a little too rough during consensual sex.

Minimalize, GO!
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Frogles
10/13/17 1:36:00 PM
#76:


The woman said that after having a shower, she showed Queree a mark and bruising on her left breast.

She said that he was getting dressed to leave at the time and she asked him if they could talk about it because she wanted an explanation.

However, she said he told her: "I need to go now and think about what I have done to you."


maybe this all could have been avoided had he just not been an uncaring piece of shit about it afterwards.

fair next.
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Turtlebread
10/13/17 1:36:28 PM
#77:


This is why I will NEVER touch a woman EVER.
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tennisdude818
10/13/17 1:37:50 PM
#78:


Asherlee10 posted...
tennisdude818 posted...
Asherlee10 posted...
tennisdude818 posted...
The UKs infestation of feminism is probably only topped by Sweden.


I think you're confusing feminism with superiority of women. Feminism is about equality between the sexes.


The dictionary definition is less useful when talking about a group of political activists that have to find reasons to remain relevant.


I definitely think there are groups that want to see female superiority over males, but that still doesn't mean that is what feminism is. I more often see people bitching about feminism as female superiority than I do activists pushing female superiority.


I think feminism started out as an equality movement before morphing into pink socialism.

I see feminists pick and choose when to point out disparities in outcome. For example, intersectional feminists see a big problem in how the criminal justice system treats blacks vs. whites. Yet I dont hear them talk about the far greater disparity between prison sentences that men receive vs. women.

Anyway, this gets into a bigger subject than this topic, where I admittedly didnt initially catch the part where she told the guy to stop and he kept grabbing.
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Chaosmaster00
10/13/17 1:42:20 PM
#80:


fenderbender321 posted...
It's not that he isn't guilty of doing something wrong, but ruining his entire life is a bit excessive punishment for the crime.

This.

At times like this, I would imagine there should be some kind of rank structure within the Sex Offender Registry that wouldn't be as restrictive on people who are convicted of minor petty sexual-related incidents like this (even if the perp in the OP is only on it temporarily, he's still pretty well fucked during that time) and, say, someone convicted of actual forced penetration.

I'm not saying he shouldn't be punished for what he did, just that the extent of what he's being awarded seems a bit much.
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thelovefist
10/13/17 1:43:06 PM
#81:


Chaosmaster00 posted...
there should be some kind of rank structure within the Sex Offender Registry


lol no.
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RE_expert44
10/13/17 1:44:10 PM
#82:


At this point his life is pretty much over. That tag stocks with him for at least 25 years and as soon as someone sees he's a sex offender, they will instantly think he's a kiddy diddler.
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Funkydog
10/13/17 1:44:17 PM
#83:


GOATTHlEF posted...
EnragedSlith posted...
Funkydog posted...
hyperpowder posted...
Just because you consent to sex doesn't mean you get to do whatever the f*** you want to someones body.


I remember a case with a stripper and a dildo at a bachelor's party that CE got up in arms about, but now that the genders are swapped it's suddenly okay?

Some of CE are just really bitter towards women.
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That_Happened
10/13/17 1:45:39 PM
#84:


RE_expert44 posted...
That tag stocks with him for at least 25 years

Article says 5 years.
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wolverinev2
10/13/17 1:46:05 PM
#86:


I think he should have been just given community service. There is no need to put somebody on the Sex Offenders registry for something like this.

Was it a dick move on his part? Yes. Does he deserve to have his career and life ruined? No. There are much better and smarter ways to deal with said situation.
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The Great Muta 22
10/13/17 1:46:36 PM
#87:


I'm not saying it's not a big deal, but I also feel people saying "This will ruin his life forever!" are also ignoring that he's only on the register for 5 years. Which, again, isn't trying to minimalism that and what that will carry, but more saying his life isn't ruined forever over his actions.
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Bad_Mojo
10/13/17 1:48:49 PM
#88:


How do we know she told him not to touch her? Seems like something most people do during sex and she would just be lying because he slighted her in some way. I'm not "victim blaming" here and calling her a liar. I'm saying that here in America don't have have to have proof of stuff like this to ruin someone's life?

Maybe he admitted to it?
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myzz007
10/13/17 1:50:42 PM
#89:


eston posted...
1) She told him not to do it

2) He did it anyway and it hurt

Seems pretty cut and dry to me

how can any of that be proven outside of "he said she said"?

sounds like sex regret on her part and some trumped up bs to screw the guy over.
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Bryan_the_Lion
10/13/17 1:57:10 PM
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Sucks. She wouldn't even dare think about doing that if I was giving it to her.
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N1NJAREB0RN
10/13/17 1:59:19 PM
#91:


Barenziah Boy Toy posted...
N1NJAREB0RN posted...
He probably was being too rough and she didn't like that and told him and he didn't chill, but it's still kinda her fault too. Don't consent to sex with a man you are not at least fairly confident is going to treat you right, or in the way you want to be treated.

She doesn't deserve to be treated as such regardless - which is why the man has been charged and convicted.


I'm not saying he's innocent or she had it coming, but if people were not so quick to pull there pants down, these situations wouldn't happen as often. She's at least partially at fault in this.
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Xelltrix
10/13/17 2:11:38 PM
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No she's not, wtf?
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Barenziah Boy Toy
10/13/17 2:12:57 PM
#93:


N1NJAREB0RN posted...
I'm not saying he's innocent or she had it coming, but if people were not so quick to pull there pants down, these situations wouldn't happen as often. She's at least partially at fault in this.

Saying that she's partially at fault,--

is like saying that if there's been a car accident, one car enter the highway and follows ALL of the rules of the road-- ZERO instances where she exhibited reckless or careless behavior, and the other car is speeding at 100 mph, weaving in and out of traffic, no turn signals, etc. and crashes into her.

The next day, the insurance company finds that the innocent car is partially at fault, and thus 15% responsible for the damages.

THAT is what you are claiming when you say that she is 'partially at fault' - simply for having the gall to enter into a highway.
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Veggeta X
10/13/17 2:13:42 PM
#94:


chad can go anywhere he wants on a girls body and ppl will call it helping her find her sexual awakening

if ur eyes accidentally even glance at a woman even if its just an indirect reflection you go directly to jail
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L0Z
10/13/17 2:15:35 PM
#95:


C in the P is okay but a hand on 1 breast isn't Okay? Everyone better draft up contracts for any sexual act for a period of 2 hours and have the girl sign it before engaging in intercourse
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That_Happened
10/13/17 2:16:01 PM
#96:


Barenziah Boy Toy posted...
N1NJAREB0RN posted...
I'm not saying he's innocent or she had it coming, but if people were not so quick to pull there pants down, these situations wouldn't happen as often. She's at least partially at fault in this.

Saying that she's partially at fault,--

is like saying that if there's been a car accident, one car enter the highway and follows ALL of the rules of the road-- ZERO instances where she exhibited reckless or careless behavior, and the other car is speeding at 100 mph, weaving in and out of traffic, no turn signals, etc. and crashes into her.

The next day, the insurance company finds that the innocent car is partially at fault, and thus 15% responsible for the damages.

THAT is what you are claiming when you say that she is 'partially at fault' - simply for having the gall to enter into a highway.

No, he's saying she's partially at fault because she should have had a better idea if a man she's opening her legs to was going to do something bad to her.

Which is equally ridiculous. I have a friend that stole from me. It wasn't somehow my fault because I trusted him to be a decent person.
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That_Happened
10/13/17 2:16:23 PM
#97:


L0Z posted...
C in the P is okay but a hand on 1 breast isn't Okay?

Not when it's forceful and causes bruising, especially after she asked him not to.
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Barenziah Boy Toy
10/13/17 2:16:27 PM
#98:


L0Z posted...
C in the P is okay but a hand on 1 breast isn't Okay?

Not if that hand causes severe bruising and pain. That's like someone whining that 'a high-five is okay, but punching someone in the gut isn't?'
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The Admiral
10/13/17 2:17:48 PM
#99:


I want to know why she was this weird about having her breasts touched.
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Questionmarktarius
10/13/17 2:18:37 PM
#100:


Barenziah Boy Toy posted...
L0Z posted...
C in the P is okay but a hand on 1 breast isn't Okay?

Not if that hand causes severe bruising and pain. That's like someone whining that 'a high-five is okay, but punching someone in the gut isn't?'

See also:
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Barenziah Boy Toy
10/13/17 2:19:32 PM
#101:


That_Happened posted...
Which is equally ridiculous. I have a friend that stole from me. It wasn't somehow my fault because I trusted him to be a decent person.

Well, regardless, it's just as ridiculous as rough/assault sex can and has happened with long-time friends, boyfriends, husbands, etc. No matter how long a woman gets to know a person, she won't actually know how violent he gets until he actually does it.
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Kolibri X
10/13/17 2:19:42 PM
#102:


As a man who occasionally fucks this is terrifying shit.
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