Current Events > Trump to NFL owners: Fire players who dont stand for the national anthem

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Phantom_Nook posted...

FrisbeeDude posted...

"Outing nazis to their employers is just liberals being butthurt snowflakes. This is why trump was elected"

"I don't see the issue with Trump pressuring NFL owners to fire players for kneeling during the anthem"

Lol Trumpanzees are funny

fixed. don't lump smart white people in with those idjits, bro.

Sorry, my dude, but this particular issue cuts pretty sharply down racial lines. It ain't black people threatning to walk away from the NFL because of politically active black players
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DarthAragorn posted...

emblem boy posted...

myzz7 posted...

the NFL ratings have plummeted since the start of the sitdown allegiance protests. from a business perspective, trump is stating the obvious if the NFL wants to remain profitable.

You'd also have to consider the people who would then boycott the NFL if they did something like this. Some have already boycotted the NFL because they don't agree with how Kaepernick was treated by the NFL.

Did anyone really quit watching the NFL entirely just because a below average QB is no longer employed?

Yes, some have stopped watching NFL because they disagreed with the way Kaepernick was treated
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emblem boy posted...

DarthAragorn posted...

emblem boy posted...

myzz7 posted...

the NFL ratings have plummeted since the start of the sitdown allegiance protests. from a business perspective, trump is stating the obvious if the NFL wants to remain profitable.

You'd also have to consider the people who would then boycott the NFL if they did something like this. Some have already boycotted the NFL because they don't agree with how Kaepernick was treated by the NFL.

Did anyone really quit watching the NFL entirely just because a below average QB is no longer employed?

Yep

Really though? Actual NFL fans and not "oh this guy kneeled for BLM I like him so I guess I'll watch his team" fans?
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mortimerjames posted...

And NFL ratings were declining years before the national anthem protest

This. It really started when ESPN was the only way to watch MNF. Plus its too expensive to watch football. Live or on TV.
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FrisbeeDude posted...

Sorry, my dude, but this particular issue cuts pretty sharply down racial lines. It ain't black people threatning to walk away from the NFL because of politically active black players

Aannnnnd now we have this topic. I'm out.
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BLAKUboy posted...

FrisbeeDude posted...

Sorry, my dude, but this particular issue cuts pretty sharply down racial lines. It ain't black people threatning to walk away from the NFL because of politically active black players

Aannnnnd now we have this topic. I'm out.

Should have known just by looking at TC

All he does is racebait
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nfl has maybe 20 or 30 years before its done
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DarthAragorn posted...

emblem boy posted...

DarthAragorn posted...

emblem boy posted...

myzz7 posted...

the NFL ratings have plummeted since the start of the sitdown allegiance protests. from a business perspective, trump is stating the obvious if the NFL wants to remain profitable.

You'd also have to consider the people who would then boycott the NFL if they did something like this. Some have already boycotted the NFL because they don't agree with how Kaepernick was treated by the NFL.

Did anyone really quit watching the NFL entirely just because a below average QB is no longer employed?

Yep

Really though? Actual NFL fans and not "oh this guy kneeled for BLM I like him so I guess I'll watch his team" fans?

I don't follow football myself so I don't know much details, but why does it seem so surprising?
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CADE FOSTER posted...

nfl has maybe 20 or 30 years before its done

This. Between owners wanting the fan to pay for their new stadium, Roger Goodall, and other shit, I can say 20 yrs
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DarthAragorn posted...

BLAKUboy posted...

FrisbeeDude posted...

Sorry, my dude, but this particular issue cuts pretty sharply down racial lines. It ain't black people threatning to walk away from the NFL because of politically active black players

Aannnnnd now we have this topic. I'm out.

Should have known just by looking at TC

All he does is racebait

REALLY? you don't think whites and blacks, for the most part, have entirely different opinions on Kaepernicks stance and his subsequent treatment?

http://amp.timeinc.net/si/nfl/2016/10/11/colin-kaepernick-national-anthem-protest-poll-quinnipiac-results?source=dam

I can't believe I had to spell this out
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Congress should fire presidents who dont tell their Russian overlords to go fuck themselves.
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emblem boy posted...

DarthAragorn posted...

emblem boy posted...

DarthAragorn posted...

emblem boy posted...

myzz7 posted...

the NFL ratings have plummeted since the start of the sitdown allegiance protests. from a business perspective, trump is stating the obvious if the NFL wants to remain profitable.

You'd also have to consider the people who would then boycott the NFL if they did something like this. Some have already boycotted the NFL because they don't agree with how Kaepernick was treated by the NFL.

Did anyone really quit watching the NFL entirely just because a below average QB is no longer employed?

Yep

Really though? Actual NFL fans and not "oh this guy kneeled for BLM I like him so I guess I'll watch his team" fans?

I don't follow football myself so I don't know much details, but why does it seem so surprising?

Because I can't wrap my mind around the fact that because a few teams that may actually be upgraded at QB by signing Kaepernick won't do so (even though they have legitimate reasons for it), people would choose not to watch a game they enjoy at all even if none of those teams are involved. It doesn't make sense to me.
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DarthAragorn posted...

emblem boy posted...

DarthAragorn posted...

emblem boy posted...

DarthAragorn posted...

emblem boy posted...

myzz7 posted...

the NFL ratings have plummeted since the start of the sitdown allegiance protests. from a business perspective, trump is stating the obvious if the NFL wants to remain profitable.

You'd also have to consider the people who would then boycott the NFL if they did something like this. Some have already boycotted the NFL because they don't agree with how Kaepernick was treated by the NFL.

Did anyone really quit watching the NFL entirely just because a below average QB is no longer employed?

Yep

Really though? Actual NFL fans and not "oh this guy kneeled for BLM I like him so I guess I'll watch his team" fans?

I don't follow football myself so I don't know much details, but why does it seem so surprising?

Because I can't wrap my mind around the fact that because a few teams that may actually be upgraded at QB by signing Kaepernick won't do so (even though they have legitimate reasons for it), people would choose not to watch a game they enjoy at all even if none of those teams are involved. It doesn't make sense to me.

Is that really a negative though? If they disagree with the team and the NFL as a whole, why shouldn't they let their principles matter more than the game.

Do you think anyone who boycotted the NFL due to them letting Kaepernick keep kneeling makes no sense as well?
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I thought liberals say actions have consequences. He sucks wtf would anybody sign him.

"Bro, it's not white people who are against Kaepernicks stance. It's trump supporters"

"That's not really true" *provides evidence*

"TC is just a race baiter. I'm out"

Lmao
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muchdran posted...

He sucks wtf would anybody sign him.

This describes at least 10 starting quarterbacks.
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emblem boy posted...

Is that really a negative though? If they disagree with the team and the NFL as a whole, why shouldn't they let their principles matter more than the game.

Do you think anyone who boycotted the NFL due to them letting Kaepernick keep kneeling makes no sense as well?

26 of 32 teams, at least, would see no benefit from signing Kaepernick without an injury to their starting QB, and have not cut or benched anyone for kneeling during the anthem, so yes, I would not understand that at all.

And yes, I don't understand that either. I don't give a fuck if players kneel if they practice and perform well in games. Marcus Peters hasn't been standing for the anthem this season and it hasn't affected my opinion of him or the Chiefs at all. He's still a great corner and the media I watch and listen to focus on the on-field performance of the team, not one player kneeling.
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DarthAragorn posted...

Squidkids posted...

@DarthAragorn posted...

Unless there's something not quoted in this topic, he didn't tell or even ask NFL owners to do anything. So...

First line

President Trump today called on NFL owners to cut any players who don’t stand for the national anthem,

"cut" means fire basically, getting them off the team, etc..

c (1) :to separate or discharge from an organization

cut them from the team

(2) :to single out and isolate

cut a calf out from the herd

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/cut

That's not a quote from Trump lmao

oh? what is the article about then? because after that first line of nonsense I saw no reason to read further
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muchdran posted...

I thought liberals say actions have consequences. He sucks wtf would anybody sign him.

The same reason why someone would sign Gabbert, Dalton, and Smith (Geno). And they all suck worse then Kap
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byron posted...

AssultTank posted...

FrisbeeDude posted...

what do they say about a president urging a private entity to punish its employees for exercising their free speech?

If you want me to use the liberal argument, then it's because actions and speech has consequences.

This is one of the dumbest responses I've seen in a while.

Do you know how fucking stupid you have to be to not so subtly equate firing someone for say, carrying a torch during a nazi rally and shouting anti Semitic slurs to a guy taking a non violent stance against police misconduct and inequalities within the criminal justice system?
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Yet nfl fully supports

Rapists
murderers
domestic abusers
drug addicts
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DarthAragorn posted...

26 of 32 teams, at least, would see no benefit from signing Kaepernick without an injury to their starting QB, and have not cut or benched anyone for kneeling during the anthem, so yes, I would not understand that at all.

I mean, obviously some view it differently, but I don't know the details of it.

I'm just saying, I don't think it's an issue for people to take a stand against something they believe is wrong. Just depends on if their belief makes sense. I'm sure others could make counter argument against what you've just said.
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The sanctity of football.

FOOTBALL!!!
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FrisbeeDude posted...

byron posted...

AssultTank posted...

FrisbeeDude posted...

what do they say about a president urging a private entity to punish its employees for exercising their free speech?

If you want me to use the liberal argument, then it's because actions and speech has consequences.

This is one of the dumbest responses I've seen in a while.

Do you know how fucking stupid you have to be to not so subtly equate firing someone for say, carrying a torch during a nazi rally and shouting anti Semitic slurs to a guy taking a non violent stance against police misconduct and inequalities within the criminal justice system?

You'd have to be some sort of moderator on a dying video game message board that was terrified of black people to want to support the speech of nazis advocating genocide of minorities while at the same time wishing ill intent on minorities wishing for people to stop wishing ill intent on them.
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iPhone_7 posted...

The sanctity of football.

FOOTBALL!!!

Foosball
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Trump and football leagues do not mix at all.

RIP USFL.
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"I believe police misconduct towards African Americans needs to be addressed and fixed"

*Is fired*

"I believe in the expulsion of Jews, blacks, Hispanics, asians and the LGBTQ community from the United States. To prove my resolve, I will march in public, shouting phrases used during the Holocaust"

*Is fired*

Now if you think those situations are the same and warrant the same reaction, the issue is with you
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iPhone_7 posted...

The sanctity of football.

FOOTBALL!!!

trump supporters are being torn between their love of football and their love for the president. if they're forced to choose, what will they pick? only time will tell.

they're probably wishing these athletes would just stop having independent beliefs and fall back in line.
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A_Good_Boy posted...

FrisbeeDude posted...

byron posted...

AssultTank posted...

FrisbeeDude posted...

what do they say about a president urging a private entity to punish its employees for exercising their free speech?

If you want me to use the liberal argument, then it's because actions and speech has consequences.

This is one of the dumbest responses I've seen in a while.

Do you know how fucking stupid you have to be to not so subtly equate firing someone for say, carrying a torch during a nazi rally and shouting anti Semitic slurs to a guy taking a non violent stance against police misconduct and inequalities within the criminal justice system?

You'd have to be some sort of moderator on a dying video game message board that was terrified of black people to want to support the speech of nazis advocating genocide of minorities while at the same time wishing ill intent on minorities wishing for people to stop wishing ill intent on them.

that sounds like the kind of mod who will see terms like "White Fragility" as moderation worthy, lol.
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Can we talk about the rest of this:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DKXvMddW4AArTng.jpg

28 year-olds have the brains of septuagenarians, and he's upset they're worried about player safety.
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NINExATExSEVEN posted...

I share no love for people who disrespect our flag. It might be a piece of cloth but it represents so much of what America stands for. Freedom, safety, liberty, peace, sacrifice etc.

You can exercise your rights all you want, but I also have a right to think that anyone who disrespects our flag is a piece of shit.

In summary: "I love this country and its freedom, but fuck you for using that exact freedom to protest something."
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I wonder how many people who are upset about kneeling players were ALSO upset at Natives for taking issue with the name Redskins?
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What a joke topic if a president
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Fake topic title and y’all eat this shit up.
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Sad!
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So much for the land of the free.
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what a predictable response
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This is the part everyone seems to forget while blathering on about first amendment rights.
You can act out and say whatever you want to say. That's your right. But not at work. The right to do and say stuff that's against job rules and that may negatively impact your workplace is not protected by anything. There's rules at work. You're a representative of who you work for and if your boss says jump you jump. If an owner says stop kneeling during the anthem and they do it anyway for instance. They can bench then, fire them, fine them, etc. They are protected by nothing. Nor should they be in that instance.

You think it doesn't work that way. Flip off your boss the next time you see him and try and get away with it by claiming first amendment rights and see how that works in reality.
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EternalDivide posted...

This is the part everyone seems to forget while blathering on about first amendment rights.
You can act out and say whatever you want to say. That's your right. But not at work. The right to do and say stuff that's against job rules and that may negatively impact your workplace is not protected by anything. There's rules at work. You're a representative of who you work for and if your boss says jump you jump. If an owner says stop kneeling during the anthem and they do it anyway for instance. They can bench then, fire them, fine them, etc. They are protected by nothing. Nor should they be in that instance.

You think it doesn't work that way. Flip off your boss the next time you see him and try and get away with it by claiming first amendment rights and see how that works in reality.

No one is fucking talking about that, shut the fuck up.
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I mean he's right. Not standing for the flag is an utter offensive to the sacrifices people have made.

I really hope a good high profile player on a good team takes a knee for the national anthem this week just to show that owners won't do s***

Keeping this bumped throughout the weekend
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Typical Yakubian responses ITT.
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BLAKUboy posted...

AssultTank posted...

If you want me to use the liberal argument, then it's because actions and speech has consequences.

And how does that excuse the fucking President of the fucking United States taking a giant shit on the first amendment? If you're not aware, the President is part of the government. You know, the entity the first amendment protects private citizens from.

Colin Kaepernick is not under arrest by any law enforcement agents in the US, nor will he ever be for kneeling during the National Anthem. None of those NFL teams have to fire anyone just because the president would like to see it happen. They can all tell him to fuck off, and they won't have to worry about being imprisoned.

I don't feel comfortable with harsh social punishments that can impact citizens who speak openly and offensively, but this is, sadly, the current state of affairs when it comes to public speech and actions that can be included as such. Time and time again, we've been reminded by the Left that it's Ok to destroy people's lives if they insult someone else, and that this is not a free speech issue anyway. All right then, they made their bed and now they have to lie in it.
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Many sides disrespect American principles.
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Trump can't help but remind everyone how a much of a thin skinned child that he really always has been
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Didn't he dodge a draft tho
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