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pojr
09/11/17 2:19:47 PM
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I'm just wondering about the science of this

How did the buildings fall apart? The planes hit the top of them
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NibeIungsnarf
09/11/17 2:20:07 PM
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AlephZero
09/11/17 2:20:26 PM
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just fuel can't melt dank memes
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09/11/17 2:20:40 PM
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gmanthebest
09/11/17 2:21:25 PM
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09/11/17 2:21:30 PM
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Etherealfare
09/11/17 2:22:31 PM
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Heat rises, and the towers 110 story design caused the top several floors to literally became a blast furnace that was hotter than fire could be expected to get. There were fires throughout the entire towers. The elevator shafts were blown-out and filled with flaming jet fuel throughout all 110 stories of both buildings. The upper floors began collapsing, adding weight exponentionally to the lower floors supporting them.
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pojr
09/11/17 2:26:37 PM
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Etherealfare posted...
Heat rises, and the towers 110 story design caused the top several floors to literally became a blast furnace that was hotter than fire could be expected to get. There were fires throughout the entire towers. The elevator shafts were blown-out and filled with flaming jet fuel throughout all 110 stories of both buildings. The upper floors began collapsing, adding weight exponentionally to the lower floors supporting them.

IIRC, the tower that was hit second came down first. How did that happen?
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Etherealfare
09/11/17 2:28:13 PM
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No idea tbh
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pojr
09/11/17 2:29:06 PM
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Etherealfare posted...
No idea tbh

Actually I think it was because the second plane hit towards the middle, if I remember correctly
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09/11/17 2:29:37 PM
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pojr posted...
Etherealfare posted...
Heat rises, and the towers 110 story design caused the top several floors to literally became a blast furnace that was hotter than fire could be expected to get. There were fires throughout the entire towers. The elevator shafts were blown-out and filled with flaming jet fuel throughout all 110 stories of both buildings. The upper floors began collapsing, adding weight exponentionally to the lower floors supporting them.

IIRC, the tower that was hit second came down first. How did that happen?

it was hit more in the center and lower in height so the weight it was supporting over the damaged area was higher.
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Foppe
09/11/17 2:29:49 PM
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The planes hit at different angles giving different structural damage, and they most likely carried different ammount of fuel.
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Forlorn_Ass
09/11/17 2:30:12 PM
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Because a fucking airplane crashed into it.
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Etherealfare
09/11/17 2:32:19 PM
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Yeah I was always under the assumption the 1st one wasn't really aiming to "do the most structural damage" - he hit directly where the Windows to the World restaurant was and the tourist attraction at the top. I assumed it was simply to do the most loss of life.

The 2nd plane seemed much more attempting to do as much damage as possible to the actual tower - also I assume most anyone working was evacuated already in the 2nd tower so naturally the intent was different
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nativengine
09/11/17 2:32:33 PM
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Metal eating termites, government has been breeding them since the 70s.
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Foppe
09/11/17 2:34:02 PM
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Forlorn_Ass posted...
Because a fucking airplane crashed into it.


A B-29 crashed into the Empire State Building in 1945.
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Etherealfare
09/11/17 2:34:30 PM
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It was raining when that occured. No fire
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nativengine
09/11/17 2:36:27 PM
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Asherlee10 posted...
Etherealfare posted...
Heat rises, and the towers 110 story design caused the top several floors to literally became a blast furnace that was hotter than fire could be expected to get. There were fires throughout the entire towers. The elevator shafts were blown-out and filled with flaming jet fuel throughout all 110 stories of both buildings. The upper floors began collapsing, adding weight exponentionally to the lower floors supporting them.


Thanks for the explanation, I always wondered about this, too.

What made Building 7 go down?



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Etherealfare
09/11/17 2:37:47 PM
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A giant chunk of debris that was already ablaze went through the top of WTC 7 and crushed a large amount of the structure. Fire took it down after being on fire until like 5PM that day.

The sprinkler systems to the entire WTC system was compromised from the collapse of the 1st tower
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Foppe
09/11/17 2:41:22 PM
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Etherealfare posted...
It was raining when that occured. No fire


It was foggy and it had a small fire.
Asherlee10 posted...
Etherealfare posted...
Heat rises, and the towers 110 story design caused the top several floors to literally became a blast furnace that was hotter than fire could be expected to get. There were fires throughout the entire towers. The elevator shafts were blown-out and filled with flaming jet fuel throughout all 110 stories of both buildings. The upper floors began collapsing, adding weight exponentionally to the lower floors supporting them.


Thanks for the explanation, I always wondered about this, too.

What made Building 7 go down?


Debris on fire hit the building, it had a sprinkler system that couldnt produce enouch pressure to put out the fire and a unique structural system made it go down.
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literal_garbage
09/11/17 2:49:26 PM
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Asherlee10 posted...
Etherealfare posted...
A giant chunk of debris that was already ablaze went through the top of WTC 7 and crushed a large amount of the structure. Fire took it down after being on fire until like 5PM that day.

The sprinkler systems to the entire WTC system was compromised from the collapse of the 1st tower


That's quite an unfortunate piece of debris...

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DAE think that 9/11 was made up!?!

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Sativa_Rose
09/11/17 2:54:41 PM
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I don't know about the other WTC buildings, but the foundation of One WTC (or the "Freedom Tower" as the press has erroneously called it a few times) looks super fortified at the base. It's like it was built to not be able to be knocked down.
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Muffinz0rz
09/11/17 2:56:26 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kqG6v7KZ_s8


Building 7
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Wolf_J_Flywheel
09/11/17 3:01:52 PM
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pojr posted...
Etherealfare posted...
Heat rises, and the towers 110 story design caused the top several floors to literally became a blast furnace that was hotter than fire could be expected to get. There were fires throughout the entire towers. The elevator shafts were blown-out and filled with flaming jet fuel throughout all 110 stories of both buildings. The upper floors began collapsing, adding weight exponentionally to the lower floors supporting them.

IIRC, the tower that was hit second came down first. How did that happen?

It just did. You can shoot two people at the same time, they might die two weeks apart.
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StucklnMyPants
09/11/17 3:19:16 PM
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Muffinz0rz posted...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kqG6v7KZ_s8


Building 7

Damage caused by debris and falls at free fall speed. Makes sense.
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pojr
09/11/17 3:26:49 PM
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Wolf_J_Flywheel posted...
pojr posted...
Etherealfare posted...
Heat rises, and the towers 110 story design caused the top several floors to literally became a blast furnace that was hotter than fire could be expected to get. There were fires throughout the entire towers. The elevator shafts were blown-out and filled with flaming jet fuel throughout all 110 stories of both buildings. The upper floors began collapsing, adding weight exponentionally to the lower floors supporting them.

IIRC, the tower that was hit second came down first. How did that happen?

It just did. You can shoot two people at the same time, they might die two weeks apart.

There's a reason why guy #2 dies before guy #1. Its not magic
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Muffinz0rz
09/11/17 3:45:56 PM
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StucklnMyPants posted...
Muffinz0rz posted...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kqG6v7KZ_s8


Building 7

Damage caused by debris and falls at free fall speed. Makes sense.

Can't tell if sarcasm

Ambient debris does not cause a building to suddenly collapse in such a clean manner. This video is identical to a controlled demolition.
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Wolf_J_Flywheel
09/11/17 3:48:07 PM
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Magic didn't topple the buildings. Also they weren't hit exactly the same, location, angle, speed, amount of fuel, etc. All variables with the only constant being the buildings themselves.
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Foppe
09/11/17 3:49:58 PM
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Two buildings will never be the exact same. Some steel beams are stronger than others, different soldering, etc.
Tower 1 was bombed in 1993 so it got different repairs than Tower 2.
The first plane flied straight into the tower while the second was at a wider angle, damaging more floors and thereby giving a worse structural damage.
They most likely carried different ammounts of fuel which created different levels of heat and different levels of structural damage.
I want to remember that both towers were designed wrong and couldnt withstand a strong enough wind if it came from the wrong side (or Im thinking of the wrong building), and they made nightly repairs for months fixing it, which gives more structural differences.
So one building was weaker than the other and one building was hit harder.
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Caution999
09/11/17 3:52:21 PM
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I swear I remember watching TV on 9/11 - or maybe it was the next day, but I remember the announcers saying they had to knock down another building because it was so far gone. Or maybe I've just gone crazy...but I swear they admitted it was a controlled demolition on national television.

Perhaps this was an even smaller building and not WTC 7.
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Foppe
09/11/17 3:54:07 PM
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Yeah, I remember that as well, cant remember which.
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StucklnMyPants
09/11/17 5:46:15 PM
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Muffinz0rz posted...
StucklnMyPants posted...
Muffinz0rz posted...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kqG6v7KZ_s8


Building 7

Damage caused by debris and falls at free fall speed. Makes sense.

Can't tell if sarcasm

Ambient debris does not cause a building to suddenly collapse in such a clean manner. This video is identical to a controlled demolition.

D: I was being sarcastic. The idea that chaotic debris and fire can cause a perfect collapse, straight down at free fall speed, is laughable. I should've laid it on thicker. :/
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Etherealfare
09/11/17 6:40:00 PM
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lmao here come the truthers!!!
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NYmasajista
09/11/17 6:49:57 PM
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It was a one time event where fire caused complete structural collapse and disintegration. No need to look into it any further than that.
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UnholyMudcrab
09/11/17 6:51:07 PM
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gnomefromnome
09/11/17 6:54:01 PM
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I wish GFA was still a thing, the 9/11 archive was something else.
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The Top Crusader
09/12/17 9:25:29 AM
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pojr posted...
Etherealfare posted...
Heat rises, and the towers 110 story design caused the top several floors to literally became a blast furnace that was hotter than fire could be expected to get. There were fires throughout the entire towers. The elevator shafts were blown-out and filled with flaming jet fuel throughout all 110 stories of both buildings. The upper floors began collapsing, adding weight exponentionally to the lower floors supporting them.

IIRC, the tower that was hit second came down first. How did that happen?


Just watch the footage. The first strike was at more of an angle to the side at the top, the second was a direct hit dead center, that's going to do a lot more structural damage.
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NeonOctopus
09/12/17 9:26:02 AM
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gnomefromnome
09/12/17 10:36:47 AM
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Not to mention all the combustible material that's inside an office building.
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Foppe
09/12/17 11:20:44 AM
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Well, remember... jet fuel wasn't the only thing on those planes. They would've also carried tanks full of the mind-control agents airliners use to make chemtrails.
Who knows what temperature that stuff burns at!
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D-Qwon
09/12/17 11:21:32 AM
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The government
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