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FrisbeeDude
09/10/17 1:00:29 PM
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Black People and Walked Away With $100,000

http://www.theroot.com/how-a-not-racist-cop-arrested-a-man-for-walking-while-1801052844

Highlights:
Old man walking down the street, using a golf club to walk

Cop concludes he's a threat, yells at him to drop his cane

Old man, confused, explains that he needs it to walk

Man is arrested, detained overnight

Arresting officer claims man swung club at someone and at a sign. Also claims to have video/audio

After man hired an attorney and contacted his state rep(who herself, had to get "two white women with privilege"), police release video

Video police released does not back up officer, yet she doubles down, insisting she knew he swung it because he "looked angry"

Man successfully sues Seattle and is awarded 1.2+ million. After a year, officer is fired

Officer, summoning her inner Addy, blames the entire incident, and the state of race relations in America in general on black people, proceeds to go on racist facebook rant

Officer sues the city, believeing she was fired not due to her racial profiling and bullshit arrest/detainment/lies about what happened, but because she is white

She is not only unfired, having her official end to her tenure be classified as "retirement" and is awarded 105,000 dollars

#GoodToBeWhite
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Dustin1280
09/10/17 1:04:58 PM
#2:


this just pisses me off, it was great when she was fired and shunned but then those bullshit happens...
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Unsugarized_Foo
09/10/17 1:05:37 PM
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Nice
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Anarchy_Juiblex
09/10/17 1:09:09 PM
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So the city is out a total of $1.3m because tax payers are fucking dumb and hold no one accountable.
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FrisbeeDude
09/10/17 1:23:04 PM
#5:


Please, white america, keep telling us howour opnions of overzealous and downright illegal treatment by the hands of law enforcement are overblown. It's not just unlawful shootings...
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darkjedilink
09/10/17 1:36:53 PM
#6:


"She is not only unfired, having her official end to her tenure be classified as "retirement" and is awarded 105,000 dollars"

Proves she was right about her firing being because she's white.

Unless you don't know how civil judgements work - she would have to present evidence backing her claims, and the city would have to prove her firing was because of the incident. Clearly, the evidence she offered was stronger than what the city could.
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FrisbeeDude
09/10/17 1:46:46 PM
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darkjedilink posted...
I can't help shitposting.

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Anarchy_Juiblex
09/10/17 1:48:51 PM
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ImAMarvel posted...
I mean really, what can you even do about shit like this?


For starters, vote, in every election. Civil participation on all levels helps.

Second, get a source other than The Root because I'm just glue guessing, the b real story is less depressing. (Even if just marginally or because its it's presented differently.)

Then, realize, understand, accept and truly believe in the system. Presumed innocents gets guilty people off (not referring to any case in particular) but it's infinitely better than the alternative. Likewise there are a hundred little nuances that are utterly integral to our justice system that exist as double edged blades.
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Aelia
09/10/17 1:58:17 PM
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Someone claims they were fired, not because of his or her actions, but because of racism.

What a novel concept.
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darkjedilink
09/10/17 2:59:20 PM
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FrisbeeDude posted...
I have no fucking clue how the legal system works.

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Mist_Turnips
09/10/17 3:00:56 PM
#12:


Most parents check under their kids beds for monsters. Frisbee's single mom checks under his racecar bed for police officers.
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FrisbeeDude
09/10/17 3:14:50 PM
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Mist_Turnips posted...
Most parents check under their kids beds for monsters. Frisbee's single mom checks under his racecar bed for police officers.


The ironic thing about this post is your parents pay your internet and cable bills
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ThanksUglyGod
09/10/17 3:17:05 PM
#14:


Sounds about white
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FrisbeeDude
09/10/17 3:17:11 PM
#15:


Obvious case of police misconduct, and the usual crowd can't help but come here and shitpost...the lack of self awareness is baffling. At least someone like the admiral would've used an intellectually dishonest and easily refuted point. Y'all did the message board equivalent of throwing your shit at a wall
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darkjedilink
09/10/17 3:21:56 PM
#16:


FrisbeeDude posted...
Obvious case of police misconduct, and the usual crowd can't help but come here and shitpost...the lack of self awareness is baffling. At least someone like the admiral would've used an intellectually dishonest and easily refuted point. Y'all did the message board equivalent of throwing your shit at a wall

Way to strawman.

Nobody argued the cop was in the right in the arrest. I personally only argued that, clearly, she had evidence of racism toward her that contributed in her firing, otherwise she couldn't have won - if the firing were legit, all the city would have to do is show some evidence of such. Either they couldn't, or they could not counter the evidence she presented of racism.

That's how civil court works - it's called "preponderance of the evidence." The judge and jury look at the evidence presented by both side, and decide which story is the most likely to be true based on such evidence. The ONLY way she could have won her case is if her story of racism against her was more believable than their story that it was JUST because of this incident of misconduct. Without court transcripts, I can only say that she must have presented a better case than the city.

Which is why I pointed out that you clearly don't know how the legal system works, like, at all.
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FrisbeeDude
09/10/17 3:24:51 PM
#17:


Keep your shitposts short or they get ignored.
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Anarchy_Juiblex
09/10/17 3:28:02 PM
#18:


darkjedilink posted...
Which is why I pointed out that you clearly don't know how the legal system works, like, at all.


To be fair, how's it's suppose to work versus how it usually works isn't the same. Jurors often get it wrong.
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Schwarber
09/10/17 3:29:11 PM
#19:


Mist_Turnips posted...
Frisbee's single mom


Fucking disgusting
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FrisbeeDude
09/10/17 3:32:14 PM
#20:


Schwarber posted...
Mist_Turnips posted...
Frisbee's single mom


Fucking disgusting


Dudes a clown, mad at the world that shunned him and relegated him to permabasement status. Can't be mad that this is his escape from a society that has largely rejected him
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IfGodCouldDie
09/10/17 3:40:55 PM
#21:


FrisbeeDude posted...
Keep your shitposts short or they get ignored.

You can't refute what he posted?
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cjsdowg
09/10/17 3:42:50 PM
#22:


Anarchy_Juiblex posted...

Second, get a source other than The Root because I'm just glue guessing, the b real story is less depressing. (Even if just marginally or because its it's presented differently.)


Yeah can't use a sight with a mostly African-American readership.

darkjedilink posted...

Nobody argued the cop was in the right in the arrest. I personally only argued that, clearly, she had evidence of racism toward her that contributed in her firing, otherwise she couldn't have won - if the firing were legit, all the city would have to do is show some evidence of such. Either they couldn't, or they could not counter the evidence she presented of racism.



So a white woman harass and kidnap a old black guy but you say she was the one who faced racism.
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FrisbeeDude
09/10/17 3:44:33 PM
#23:


IfGodCouldDie posted...
FrisbeeDude posted...
Keep your shitposts short or they get ignored.

You can't refute what he posted?


Do you refute the guy on the street who tells you the sky is falling? That's what you're asking me to do in regards to a notorious shitposter
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Mist_Turnips
09/10/17 3:45:03 PM
#24:


FrisbeeDude posted...
Mist_Turnips posted...
Most parents check under their kids beds for monsters. Frisbee's single mom checks under his racecar bed for police officers.


The ironic thing about this post is your parents pay your internet and cable bills

Actually I got my own apartment (in a high income area) over a year ago, my little victim.
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darkjedilink
09/10/17 3:45:08 PM
#25:


cjsdowg posted...
Anarchy_Juiblex posted...

Second, get a source other than The Root because I'm just glue guessing, the b real story is less depressing. (Even if just marginally or because its it's presented differently.)

Yeah can't use a sight with a mostly African-American readership.

darkjedilink posted...

Nobody argued the cop was in the right in the arrest. I personally only argued that, clearly, she had evidence of racism toward her that contributed in her firing, otherwise she couldn't have won - if the firing were legit, all the city would have to do is show some evidence of such. Either they couldn't, or they could not counter the evidence she presented of racism.

So a white woman harass and kidnap a old black guy but you say she was the one who faced racism.

Because two people can't be the victims of racism?

Oh, I forgot - you're a black supremacist segregationist who believes ONLY black people can ever be the victims of racism.
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cjsdowg
09/10/17 3:46:08 PM
#26:


IfGodCouldDie posted...

You can't refute what he posted?


He didn't prove that people were racist to her. He just said oh the court said this so it must be so. The Court said that the killers of Emmett Till didn't do it.
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cjsdowg
09/10/17 3:46:57 PM
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darkjedilink posted...

Because two people can't be the victims of racism?

Oh, I forgot - you're a black supremacist segregationist who believes ONLY black people can ever be the victims of racism.


Strawman much, And no when you are the person being racist to someone you don't get get to claim that you are the victim.
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darkjedilink
09/10/17 3:47:23 PM
#28:


cjsdowg posted...
IfGodCouldDie posted...

You can't refute what he posted?

He didn't prove that people were racist to her. He just said oh the court said this so it must be so. The Court said that the killers of Emmett Till didn't do it.

You didn't learn to read, I take it.

I stated that she clearly proved racism towards her, because you can't win a civil suit just by saying so. Plenty of black people have proven such.
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FrisbeeDude
09/10/17 3:48:16 PM
#29:


darkjedilink posted...
cjsdowg posted...
IfGodCouldDie posted...

You can't refute what he posted?

He didn't prove that people were racist to her. He just said oh the court said this so it must be so. The Court said that the killers of Emmett Till didn't do it.

You didn't learn to read, I take it.

I stated that she clearly proved racism towards her, because you can't win a civil suit just by saying so. Plenty of black people have proven such.


Did she even win or, did the city simply settle with her? (likely to just make her go away)
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cjsdowg
09/10/17 3:48:25 PM
#30:


darkjedilink posted...
You didn't learn to read, I take it.

I stated that she clearly proved racism towards her, because you can't win a civil suit just by saying so. Plenty of black people have proven such.



You can't read, pointing to court case does not prove your point. Show where she was victim.
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darkjedilink
09/10/17 3:49:03 PM
#31:


cjsdowg posted...
darkjedilink posted...

Because two people can't be the victims of racism?

Oh, I forgot - you're a black supremacist segregationist who believes ONLY black people can ever be the victims of racism.

Strawman much, And no when you are the person being racist to someone you don't get get to claim that you are the victim.

If someone is being racist towards you, you most certainly can - even if you're a racist yourself. Which is why nothing I posted was a strawman. You claim she can't be the victim of racism because she's a racist. She likely is racist, but that doesn't mean other people aren't racist towards her.

If that weren't the case, you'd never be able to claim you're a victim of racism, because you're the most racist person on this board.
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darkjedilink
09/10/17 3:49:45 PM
#32:


cjsdowg posted...
darkjedilink posted...
You didn't learn to read, I take it.

I stated that she clearly proved racism towards her, because you can't win a civil suit just by saying so. Plenty of black people have proven such.

You can't read, pointing to court case does not prove your point. Show where she was victim.

The city she worked for did that for me, when they could not prove that she was fired fairly.
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cjsdowg
09/10/17 3:50:42 PM
#33:


darkjedilink posted...

The city she worked for did that for me, when they could not prove that she was fired fairly.



No maybe just people like you were on the jury. Most people worth their salt would think that kidnapping and lying about a crime were just reason to be fired .
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darkjedilink
09/10/17 3:51:05 PM
#34:


FrisbeeDude posted...
darkjedilink posted...
cjsdowg posted...
IfGodCouldDie posted...

You can't refute what he posted?

He didn't prove that people were racist to her. He just said oh the court said this so it must be so. The Court said that the killers of Emmett Till didn't do it.

You didn't learn to read, I take it.

I stated that she clearly proved racism towards her, because you can't win a civil suit just by saying so. Plenty of black people have proven such.


Did she even win or, did the city simply settle with her? (likely to just make her go away)

I honestly don't know, nor care so much to find out. However, it'd be the absolutely shittiest way out of the situation to settle with someone you fired with cause by giving her the job back AND paying her damages.
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A_Good_Boy
09/10/17 3:52:10 PM
#35:


FrisbeeDude posted...
darkjedilink posted...
cjsdowg posted...
IfGodCouldDie posted...

You can't refute what he posted?

He didn't prove that people were racist to her. He just said oh the court said this so it must be so. The Court said that the killers of Emmett Till didn't do it.

You didn't learn to read, I take it.

I stated that she clearly proved racism towards her, because you can't win a civil suit just by saying so. Plenty of black people have proven such.


Did she even win or, did the city simply settle with her? (likely to just make her go away)

I'm curious about this now too.
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Bishop9800
09/10/17 3:53:18 PM
#36:


darkjedilink posted...

The city she worked for did that for me, when they could not prove that she was fired fairly.



so you're saying that she was in the right, even though she lied, and had no reason to arrest him?
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darkjedilink
09/10/17 3:53:37 PM
#37:


cjsdowg posted...
darkjedilink posted...

The city she worked for did that for me, when they could not prove that she was fired fairly.

No maybe just people like you were on the jury. Most people worth their salt would think that kidnapping and lying about a crime were just reason to be fired .

And, apparently, the city couldn't prove that this was more likely than racism for her firing.

You're going to tell me that you can find twelve people that live in the same district in Seattle that would agree that the racist wasn't fired for her racism when presented with evidence that she was fired for her racism?

Seattle, one of the more liberal areas of the country? THAT's your argument?
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cjsdowg
09/10/17 3:54:42 PM
#38:


darkjedilink posted...
And, apparently, the city couldn't prove that this was more likely than racism for her firing.

You're going to tell me that you can find twelve people that live in the same district in Seattle that would agree that the racist wasn't fired for her racism when presented with evidence that she was fired for her racism?

Seattle, one of the more liberal areas of the country? THAT's your argument?


People have cited why she was racist and wrong, you have cite to saw how she wasn't.
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A_Good_Boy
09/10/17 3:54:47 PM
#39:


darkjedilink posted...
cjsdowg posted...
darkjedilink posted...

The city she worked for did that for me, when they could not prove that she was fired fairly.

No maybe just people like you were on the jury. Most people worth their salt would think that kidnapping and lying about a crime were just reason to be fired .

And, apparently, the city couldn't prove that this was more likely than racism for her firing.

You're going to tell me that you can find twelve people that live in the same district in Seattle that would agree that the racist wasn't fired for her racism when presented with evidence that she was fired for her racism?

Seattle, one of the more liberal areas of the country? THAT's your argument?

Why are you making arguments on the trial without knowing the details about it?
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darkjedilink
09/10/17 3:55:36 PM
#40:


Bishop9800 posted...
darkjedilink posted...
The city she worked for did that for me, when they could not prove that she was fired fairly.

so you're saying that she was in the right, even though she lied, and had no reason to arrest him?

I'm saying that, clearly, she had a legitimate argument about being treated unfairly due to her white skin, otherwise there's no way in Hell that, after doing something like this and being fired, she could make such an argument and have it go her way.

They had to re-hire her - think about that. She got her job back because of her argument! That doesn't happen unless she's got a point.
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darkjedilink
09/10/17 3:56:38 PM
#41:


cjsdowg posted...
darkjedilink posted...
And, apparently, the city couldn't prove that this was more likely than racism for her firing.

You're going to tell me that you can find twelve people that live in the same district in Seattle that would agree that the racist wasn't fired for her racism when presented with evidence that she was fired for her racism?

Seattle, one of the more liberal areas of the country? THAT's your argument?

People have cited why she was racist and wrong, you have cite to saw how she wasn't.

I never said she wasn't racist, so why would I have to cite that she wasn't?

I argued only that she had to have been fired, at least in part, due to racism, because there's no way they'd have to re-hire her if she didn't prove it.
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A_Good_Boy
09/10/17 3:58:29 PM
#42:


darkjedilink posted...
Bishop9800 posted...
darkjedilink posted...
The city she worked for did that for me, when they could not prove that she was fired fairly.

so you're saying that she was in the right, even though she lied, and had no reason to arrest him?

I'm saying that, clearly, she had a legitimate argument about being treated unfairly due to her white skin, otherwise there's no way in Hell that, after doing something like this and being fired, she could make such an argument and have it go her way.

They had to re-hire her - think about that. She got her job back because of her argument! That doesn't happen unless she's got a point.

It happens pretty regularly, actually. Cop unions are some of the most influential in the country. I'd chalk her being reinstated less on their being a lack of evidence for her racism and more on the police department not following due process for her being fired.
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darkjedilink
09/10/17 4:03:24 PM
#43:


A_Good_Boy posted...
darkjedilink posted...
Bishop9800 posted...
darkjedilink posted...
The city she worked for did that for me, when they could not prove that she was fired fairly.

so you're saying that she was in the right, even though she lied, and had no reason to arrest him?

I'm saying that, clearly, she had a legitimate argument about being treated unfairly due to her white skin, otherwise there's no way in Hell that, after doing something like this and being fired, she could make such an argument and have it go her way.

They had to re-hire her - think about that. She got her job back because of her argument! That doesn't happen unless she's got a point.

It happens pretty regularly, actually. Cop unions are some of the most influential in the country. I'd chalk her being reinstated less on their being a lack of evidence for her racism and more on the police department not following due process for her being fired.

Except nothing I'm finding on the case suggests the union sued on her behalf. They settled out of court to give her the job back, and if they had legitimate cause to fire her, no union in America could exert enough pressure to undo that.
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Bloodychess
09/10/17 4:04:41 PM
#44:


FrisbeeDude posted...
#GoodToBeWhite


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UnfairRepresent
09/10/17 4:12:54 PM
#45:


FrisbeeDude posted...

Man successfully sues Seattle and is awarded 1.2+ million.

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cjsdowg
09/10/17 4:13:14 PM
#46:


darkjedilink posted...

Except nothing I'm finding on the case suggests the union sued on her behalf. They settled out of court to give her the job back, and if they had legitimate cause to fire her, no union in America could exert enough pressure to undo that.

The Union defends almost anything.
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A_Good_Boy
09/10/17 4:15:46 PM
#47:


darkjedilink posted...
A_Good_Boy posted...
darkjedilink posted...
Bishop9800 posted...
darkjedilink posted...
The city she worked for did that for me, when they could not prove that she was fired fairly.

so you're saying that she was in the right, even though she lied, and had no reason to arrest him?

I'm saying that, clearly, she had a legitimate argument about being treated unfairly due to her white skin, otherwise there's no way in Hell that, after doing something like this and being fired, she could make such an argument and have it go her way.

They had to re-hire her - think about that. She got her job back because of her argument! That doesn't happen unless she's got a point.

It happens pretty regularly, actually. Cop unions are some of the most influential in the country. I'd chalk her being reinstated less on their being a lack of evidence for her racism and more on the police department not following due process for her being fired.

Except nothing I'm finding on the case suggests the union sued on her behalf. They settled out of court to give her the job back, and if they had legitimate cause to fire her, no union in America could exert enough pressure to undo that.

So if they settled out of court then why are you saying that's proof that she wasn't fired for being racist?
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darkjedilink
09/10/17 4:25:39 PM
#48:


A_Good_Boy posted...
darkjedilink posted...
A_Good_Boy posted...
darkjedilink posted...
Bishop9800 posted...
darkjedilink posted...
The city she worked for did that for me, when they could not prove that she was fired fairly.

so you're saying that she was in the right, even though she lied, and had no reason to arrest him?

I'm saying that, clearly, she had a legitimate argument about being treated unfairly due to her white skin, otherwise there's no way in Hell that, after doing something like this and being fired, she could make such an argument and have it go her way.

They had to re-hire her - think about that. She got her job back because of her argument! That doesn't happen unless she's got a point.

It happens pretty regularly, actually. Cop unions are some of the most influential in the country. I'd chalk her being reinstated less on their being a lack of evidence for her racism and more on the police department not following due process for her being fired.

Except nothing I'm finding on the case suggests the union sued on her behalf. They settled out of court to give her the job back, and if they had legitimate cause to fire her, no union in America could exert enough pressure to undo that.

So if they settled out of court then why are you saying that's proof that she wasn't fired for being racist?

Because there's literally no reason to settle if she had no case. If her argument was even a LITTLE bullshit, and the firing was legit, it would have been cheaper in the short AND long run to let her hang herself in court.

Cities don't settle out of court if they aren't culpable in some way. Even if they did, if the firing was legit, they aren't giving her the job back.
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A_Good_Boy
09/10/17 4:28:31 PM
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The city she worked for did that for me, when they could not prove that she was fired fairly.

so you're saying that she was in the right, even though she lied, and had no reason to arrest him?

I'm saying that, clearly, she had a legitimate argument about being treated unfairly due to her white skin, otherwise there's no way in Hell that, after doing something like this and being fired, she could make such an argument and have it go her way.

They had to re-hire her - think about that. She got her job back because of her argument! That doesn't happen unless she's got a point.

It happens pretty regularly, actually. Cop unions are some of the most influential in the country. I'd chalk her being reinstated less on their being a lack of evidence for her racism and more on the police department not following due process for her being fired.

Except nothing I'm finding on the case suggests the union sued on her behalf. They settled out of court to give her the job back, and if they had legitimate cause to fire her, no union in America could exert enough pressure to undo that.

So if they settled out of court then why are you saying that's proof that she wasn't fired for being racist?

Because there's literally no reason to settle if she had no case. If her argument was even a LITTLE bullshit, and the firing was legit, it would have been cheaper in the short AND long run to let her hang herself in court.

Cities don't settle out of court if they aren't culpable in some way. Even if they did, if the firing was legit, they aren't giving her the job back.

All that settling out of court means is that it's cheaper to pay her off than it is to go to trial. It's not an admission of guilt.
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09/10/17 4:37:47 PM
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All that settling out of court means is that it's cheaper to pay her off than it is to go to trial. It's not an admission of guilt.

You think it's cheaper in the long run to rehire a racist - whom they had to pay out a settlement of over a million dollars over for her racism - than to not rehire her?
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