Current Events > Michael Bennett experiences police brutality

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Is there a video?
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So, video surgaces showing that he may have exaggerated the situation, and Leftists say anyone pointing this fact out are racist.

Typical CE.
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gatorsPENSbucs posted...

Is there a video?

Thus far, not one corroborating Bennett's story of police brutality.
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That_Happened posted...

Cj_WlLL_VVlN posted...

I never said he made it up...

I did say that this isn't a minority issue. I was stopped at gun point and cuffed as I already stated.

This is being detained and is not evidence of wrong duty. It's the police having reason to believe you may have been involved in a crime. If they think you may be armed (like when responding to gunshots) they're going to treat suspects as if they're armed. That's what Bennetts story sounds like and that's what happened to me.

Anyone who thinks this is wrong and police should approach shootings without guns and simply ask people if they've been shooting at people are the low end of the gene pool.

It's amazing to see how this topic unfolded. We went from
1. "He's lying. There was no incident in Las Vegas. No one reported any police issues that night."
2. "Ok, so there was an issue with the police. But there's no video of the incident so he's lying."
3. "Ok, so there's a video, but it only shows the last half of the arrest, so he's lying."
4. "Ok so even if he's not lying, they probably thought he was armed, so the cops are right to react the way they did."

Cj_WlLL_VVlN posted...

I did say that this isn't a minority issue.

What *is* a minority issue though, is people believing the person when they say the police were unfair to them.

I would like you to please point out where I went through 1-3...

I didn't ever think he made it up mostly because he's famous and if it was completely fabricated his story would have been shut down almost immediately.

I can understand why someone might assume that someone who has been hyper critical of the police might think he exaggerated but from my first post I took him at his word and said that this wasn't excessive.

If i had to guess others were probably grabbed as well. This is how police deal with shootings or possibly armed suspects. Take control, investigate, release. I wouldn't want my cops running up unarmed going excuse me sir do you have a gun? Did you just shoot someone? But hey I like my police and innocent civilians safe.
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darkjedilink posted...

So, video surgaces showing that he may have exaggerated the situation, and Leftists say anyone pointing this fact out are racist.

Typical CE.

What? The video doesn't show the full interaction. His story on twitter starts before he is in cuffs. The video clearly starts with him already seen cuffed and on the ground.

There is no proof of exaggeration. This is not the full video which is obvious.

I can understand people saying the police should investigate the shooting. However why is Bennett the only person in this video cuffed and being harassed? Why was he targeted? That is the issue. You don't just stop and cuff people because no you heard gunshots. He didn't even have a weapon on him it should have been over in 5 seconds.
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MrDrMan posted...

What? The video doesn't show the full interaction. His story on twitter starts before he is in cuffs. The video clearly starts with him already seen cuffed and on the ground.

There is no proof of exaggeration.

So there's no proof of anything that happened that night and everyone is just assuming.
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gatorsPENSbucs posted...

MrDrMan posted...

What? The video doesn't show the full interaction. His story on twitter starts before he is in cuffs. The video clearly starts with him already seen cuffed and on the ground.

There is no proof of exaggeration.

So there's no proof of anything that happened that night and everyone is just assuming.

There is clear evidence he was stopped by police. There is also clear evidence he was released without charges. There is also clear evidence of him on the ground in cuffs.

What do you not get? Michael Bennett has no reason to make this up. It's obvious he was wrongfully stopped or he would have been charged. It is also illegal to lie to a court so what benefit does he have to take legal action based on lies?

These aren't assumptions. Using logic and reasoning it's pretty obvious he was wrongfully stopped. Until proven guilty there was no reason for him to even be cuffed.
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MrDrMan posted...

darkjedilink posted...

So, video surgaces showing that he may have exaggerated the situation, and Leftists say anyone pointing this fact out are racist.

Typical CE.

What? The video doesn't show the full interaction. His story on twitter starts before he is in cuffs. The video clearly starts with him already seen cuffed and on the ground.

There is no proof of exaggeration. This is not the full video which is obvious.

I can understand people saying the police should investigate the shooting. However why is Bennett the only person in this video cuffed and being harassed? Why was he targeted? That is the issue. You don't just stop and cuff people because no you heard gunshots. He didn't even have a weapon on him it should have been over in 5 seconds.

There is literally no evidence of police brutality at all, which is the point. Libs on this board still think Michael Brown is a gentle giant, so I guess I can't be surprised they'd side with a Kaepernick supporter with literally no evidence.
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MrDrMan posted...

Until proven guilty there was no reason for him to even be cuffed.

Oh, I thought you were actually looking for a rational conversation. Clearly you can't be reasoned with.
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Seahawks say he's expected to play Week 1. Couldn't have been any brutality.
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darkjedilink posted...

MrDrMan posted...

Until proven guilty there was no reason for him to even be cuffed.

Oh, I thought you were actually looking for a rational conversation. Clearly you can't be reasoned with.

He's got a screw loose.
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MrDrMan posted...

What do you not get? Michael Bennett has no reason to make this up.

Except for the fact that he's been bashing cops for a while now and here's a good chance to take it further.

I really don't care either way, just funny that people pretend to act like they were that night.
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gatorsPENSbucs posted...

MrDrMan posted...

What do you not get? Michael Bennett has no reason to make this up.

Except for the fact that he's been bashing cops for a while now and here's a good chance to take it further.

I really don't care either way, just funny that people pretend to act like they were that night.

Almost as funny as watching conservatives back pedal every time new information comes up about that night.

"It never happened!"
"Well, there was an incident, but that's not proof it happened to him!"
"That video doesn't show anything, even though it's only after the fact that he got cuffed and that was about halfway through his story!!!!!!"
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Cj_WlLL_VVlN posted...

I mean I don't see why he would be targeted if there were hundreds of people. That said I don't see why this is considered excessive.

If there were gunshots I would assume more people had guns pointed at them and were cuffed.

I had guns pointed at me and was cuffed for matching the description of a robbery suspect. Tall, white in a leather jacket. That didn't seem overboard to me either.

Well it was overboard. Just so you know.
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Can you give me a reason for that? Do you believe cops should show up to shootings and confront subjects without restraints and guns holstered? Sounds like a great way to get dead cops and civilians.

Instead of dead cops and civilians we had someone who had guns pointed at him and put in cuffs and then released shortly after. Everyone was safe, a person was scared and suffered a minor inconvenience. Seems like a small price to pay to make sure people remained safe.
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Cj_WlLL_VVlN posted...

Everyone was safe, a person was scared and suffered a minor inconvenience.

The police pointing guns at an innocent man's head and shouting "I'll fucking blow your head off" is not a minor inconvenience to anyone who isn't a psychopath.
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That_Happened posted...

Cj_WlLL_VVlN posted...

Everyone was safe, a person was scared and suffered a minor inconvenience.

The police pointing guns at a man's head and shouting "I'll fucking blow your head off" is not a minor inconvenience to anyone who isn't a psychopath.

Really? What long term inconvenience did he suffer. Making that threat so that a suspect knows not to move is infinitely better than having him move and get shot isn't.

Like I said. I went through the exact same thing. Stopped at gun point. Ordered to put my hands in the air, told if I dropped my hands I'd be shot, ordered to lift my collar and show my waist, ordered to turn around, get on my knees and then cuffed. Was it scary. Yes, but I'm glad those orders made the situation clear and I didn't try and walk towards them.

Was I released shortly after. Yes.

Minor inconvenience.

I don't know what world you guys live in where cops should run in unarmed and have a polite conversation with people in a situation involving a gun.
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Cj_WlLL_VVlN posted...

Like I said. I went through the exact same thing. Stopped at gun point. Ordered to put my hands in the air, told if I dropped my hands I'd be shot, ordered to lift my collar and show my waist, ordered to turn around, get on my knees and then cuffed.

And now:

- you pretend not to understand that police can't just threaten peoples' lives based on nothing
- you think the fact that they do is "normal" and "not excessive."
- your mind is so fucked that you can't think of any possible options other than "I'll fucking blow your head off" and "have a polite conversation with suspects."

You clearly suffered lasting psychological effects from your experience.
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Before the video, everyone said he was lying and it didn't happen.

After the video, everyone is saying he is lying and it didn't happen the way he said it.

good job
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That_Happened posted...

Cj_WlLL_VVlN posted...

Like I said. I went through the exact same thing. Stopped at gun point. Ordered to put my hands in the air, told if I dropped my hands I'd be shot, ordered to lift my collar and show my waist, ordered to turn around, get on my knees and then cuffed.

And now:

- you pretend not to understand that police can't just threaten peoples' lives based on nothing
- you think the fact that they do is "normal" and "not excessive."
- your mind is so fucked that you can't think of any possible options other than "I'll fucking blow your head off" and "have a polite conversation with suspects."

You clearly suffered lasting psychological effects from your experience.

I would like to hear your alternative and how you'd handle a suspect known to be armed.
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Cj_WlLL_VVlN posted...

I would like to hear your alternative and how you'd handle a suspect known to be armed.

Again, how was Michael Bennett a "suspect known to be armed?"
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Cj_WlLL_VVlN posted...

I would like to hear your alternative and how you'd handle a suspect known to be armed.

He wasn't known to be armed. They thought he was, based on nothing more than "I heard gunshots."

Secondly, if what he's saying is true, telling a suspect to show his hands or stop resisting while being detained is more than enough. Arrests are made DAILY by officers who don't need to threaten to murder someone. There is no reason to go action movie cliche on someone that you're not even sure has done anything wrong.
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CableZL posted...

Cj_WlLL_VVlN posted...

I would like to hear your alternative and how you'd handle a suspect known to be armed.

Again, how was Michael Bennett a "suspect known to be armed?"

Because you treat every suspect as armed when responding to a shots fired call? I used that wording to include more scenarios including mine where they were looking for an armed suspect even though I wasnt their guy.

That_Happened posted...

Cj_WlLL_VVlN posted...

I would like to hear your alternative and how you'd handle a suspect known to be armed.

He wasn't known to be armed. They thought he was, based on nothing more than "I heard gunshots."

Secondly, if what he's saying is true, telling a suspect to show his hands or stop resisting while being detained is more than enough. Arrests are made DAILY by officers who don't need to threaten to murder someone. There is no reason to go action movie cliche on someone that you're not even sure has done anything wrong.

A) that wouldn't be murder, shooting someone reaching, or you believe is reaching for a weapon isn't murder. It's common sense.

B) i now understand that you're not upset about anything but that "threat" which while crass was more a statement of fact.

Anyways police are trained to loudly yell "do not move or you will he shot during high risk stops". I can understand where "don't fucking move or I'll shoot you dead" doesnt really seem far off when the adrenaline is going (you know when youre basically running in blind after a subject with a gun). Maybe not the most appropriate but certainly not abuse or excessive force.
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Cj_WlLL_VVlN posted...

Because you treat every suspect as armed when responding to a shots fired call? I used that wording to include more scenarios including mine where they were looking for an armed suspect even though I wasnt their guy.

So in a shots fired call situation where tons of people are running away from the sound of gunshots, police are to treat everyone running away as a suspect?
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http://deadspin.com/video-shows-michael-bennett-being-cuffed-by-las-vegas-p-1800780801
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Cj_WlLL_VVlN posted...

B) i now understand that you're not upset about anything but that "threat" which while crass was more a statement of fact.

This place really attracts social loners and oddballs.
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CableZL posted...

Cj_WlLL_VVlN posted...

Because you treat every suspect as armed when responding to a shots fired call? I used that wording to include more scenarios including mine where they were looking for an armed suspect even though I wasnt their guy.

So in a shots fired call situation where tons of people are running away from the sound of gunshots, police are to treat everyone running away as a suspect?

I don't know what made him a suspect. In my first post I stated that I don't know why it would be him in a group that big. We'd need to police side to know.

That_Happened posted...

Cj_WlLL_VVlN posted...

B) i now understand that you're not upset about anything but that "threat" which while crass was more a statement of fact.

This place really attracts social loners and oddballs.

I mean I've never been described as either. But I mean I agree you have some huge problem with someone cussing and telling someone what would happen if they moved...

Have you never left the house or had a social interaction?
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Cj_WlLL_VVlN posted...

I don't know what made him a suspect.

Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight
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Cj_WlLL_VVlN posted...

But I mean I agree you have some huge problem with someone cussing and telling someone what would happen if they moved...

The fun part is you deconstruct a physical and (you even admit) unnecessary threat to end an innocent person's life.. by defining what types of words were used and ignore the context. Kind of like when people take Nazi hate speech and say "oh it's just people saying something you don't like." It takes a enormous level of derp to think this kind of behavior is acceptable in our police.
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http://www.tmz.com/2017/09/06/michael-bennett-arrest-video/

Here's the video of him actually being cuffed. Eyewitness reports state that, when the cops showed up and told everyone to stay where they were, he started running, which is why they went after him.

Again, literally nothing supporting his story.
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He ran away from gunshots (just like everyone else) so that makes him a criminal? Have any of you ever been in that situation? your first reaction is run and get the hell away and in the adrenaline and panic I doubt anyone even heard the police commands.

I'm so glad I'm not a cop...
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ShotOJameson posted...

He ran away from gunshots (just like everyone else) so that makes him a criminal? Have any of you ever been in that situation? your first reaction is run and get the hell away and in the adrenaline and panic I doubt anyone even heard the police commands.

I'm so glad I'm not a cop...

The people posting against him are mainly trolls tbh.

Surprised the rest of the usual suspects haven't shown up yet tbh.
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more video
http://deadspin.com/las-vegas-cops-cant-explain-why-an-officer-handcuffed-a-1801154344

intense
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ShotOJameson posted...

more video
http://deadspin.com/las-vegas-cops-cant-explain-why-an-officer-handcuffed-a-1801154344

intense

McMahill said there were 126 videos of what happened that police would be gathering, but they will not include the body camera worn by the officer who detained Bennett. McMahill said that officer didn’t have his body camera turned on, and he did not know why.

*smirk*
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ShotOJameson posted...

He ran away from gunshots (just like everyone else) so that makes him a criminal? Have any of you ever been in that situation? your first reaction is run and get the hell away and in the adrenaline and panic I doubt anyone even heard the police commands.

I'm so glad I'm not a cop...

No, he didn't run away from gunshots. He ran away from the cops after being told not to move.
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https://twitter.com/mosesbread72/status/905602687315488768
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the alt right will defend cops no matter what racism needs to die wake up people this is not ok
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That_Happened posted...

ShotOJameson posted...

more video
http://deadspin.com/las-vegas-cops-cant-explain-why-an-officer-handcuffed-a-1801154344

intense

McMahill said there were 126 videos of what happened that police would be gathering, but they will not include the body camera worn by the officer who detained Bennett. McMahill said that officer didn’t have his body camera turned on, and he did not know why.

*smirk*

SURPRISE SURPRISE

Here's this quote I came across:
There is no situation in which a body camera would not protect a police officer unless that officer was acting outside the law.
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We should allow cops to threaten to blow someone's brains away because cops are hero's and they represent all that is good. There certainly is no problem with an ultra logical conclusion like that.
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TommyG663513 posted...

We should allow cops to threaten to blow someone's brains away because cops are hero's and they represent all that is good. There certainly is no problem with an ultra logical conclusion like that.

Theres no evidence the officer said that. Just a person who gets hit in the head for a living. Its safe to assume his memory might be somewhat impaired.
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The police chief acknowledges both officers had pointed guns at Michael.

Yeah, we all knew both these officers would have malfunctioning body cams for some reason.

Cj_WlLL_VVlN posted...

darkjedilink posted...

MrDrMan posted...

Until proven guilty there was no reason for him to even be cuffed.

Oh, I thought you were actually looking for a rational conversation. Clearly you can't be reasoned with.

He's got a screw loose.

I've got a screw loose for saying innocent people shouldn't be cuffed? Makes sense.

I don't mean proven guilty in a court of law. There's not even reasonable suspicion at all. This is pure racism.

People are so fucking stupid. The guy even had his fucking body camera off supposedly. Sounds really convenient when he's being investigated for wrongdoing.
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Kingbuffet posted...

The police chief acknowledges both officers had pointed guns at Michael.

Yeah, we all knew both these officers would have malfunctioning body cams for some reason.

Police officers pointed guns at a man disobeying commands to stay put? When looking for a shooter?

No WAY!
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darkjedilink posted...

Police officers pointed guns at a man disobeying commands to stay put? When looking for a shooter?

No WAY!

Where are you getting info that he disobeyed commands?
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Fake news

CableZL posted...

darkjedilink posted...

Police officers pointed guns at a man disobeying commands to stay put? When looking for a shooter?

No WAY!

Where are you getting info that he disobeyed commands?

Eyewitness reports in the TMZ article I linked. With the video that doesn't show anything that Bennett alleged.
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darkjedilink posted...

Eyewitness reports in the TMZ article I linked. With the video that doesn't show anything that Bennett alleged.

You can see tons of people running toward the exit when the cops showed up, though, and the cops didn't seem to have a problem with them.
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Sources connected to the investigation tell TMZ Sports ... when cops responded to the club for a possible shooting, they ordered everyone to get down and not move so they could properly search and investigate.

http://deadspin.com/las-vegas-cops-cant-explain-why-an-officer-handcuffed-a-1801154344

In the video where the cops enter the scene, they're actually instructing people to leave, so the cops definitely didn't "order everyone to get down and not move" when they got there.
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CableZL posted...

Sources connected to the investigation tell TMZ Sports ... when cops responded to the club for a possible shooting, they ordered everyone to get down and not move so they could properly search and investigate.

http://deadspin.com/las-vegas-cops-cant-explain-why-an-officer-handcuffed-a-1801154344

In the video where the cops enter the scene, they're actually instructing people to leave, so the cops definitely didn't "order everyone to get down and not move" when they got there.

So the people that were there are lying? The cops absolutely could not have instructed that later?
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