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Dustin1280
09/06/17 10:22:24 AM
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gunplagirl posted...
If you think trans supremacy is my goal then I can't imagine how privileged you are if you think equal rights and protection is somehow detrimental to cis people.

If people can't stand being told what the problems are and that it's cis people who have to address them, then they aren't allies to begin with. The enemy of progress is always and will always be the moderate. Idle fence sitters who are never impacted directly for their inaction.

Example: Body Blitz's female only "no male genitals" spa.
You think a trans person who hasn't even started transitioning and very much looks like a man in every way should be allowed into that spa. Fuck everyone in that spa that does not have a penis, their feelings are not important because the ONE trans person there that has a penis is upset at the situation.
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Ricky Williams
09/06/17 10:22:41 AM
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Ricky Williams posted...
Then why does the notice in the OP have it listed as a price change? It does not seem to indicate that it is a different ticket, it literally says this ticket was this much and is now this much

Because the ticket is still in economy, so it is considered the same product. You aren't really purchasing something different, you are selecting a different fare. Here is an article about it:

https://thepointsguy.com/2015/05/what-airline-fare-classes-tell-you-about-your-ticket/

To prior guy, everybody has made clear that they aren't expecting Delta to lower ticket costs, just not to gouge. They aren't gouging, that was my entire point.
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The_Donald
09/06/17 10:28:57 AM
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scar the 1 posted...
and I'd expect compensations paid from the govt to companies


More gov. handouts, gimme gimme.
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gunplagirl
09/06/17 10:36:21 AM
#55:


Dustin1280 posted...
gunplagirl posted...
If you think trans supremacy is my goal then I can't imagine how privileged you are if you think equal rights and protection is somehow detrimental to cis people.

If people can't stand being told what the problems are and that it's cis people who have to address them, then they aren't allies to begin with. The enemy of progress is always and will always be the moderate. Idle fence sitters who are never impacted directly for their inaction.

Example: Body Blitz's female only "no male genitals" spa.
You think a trans person who hasn't even started transitioning and very much looks like a man in every way should be allowed into that spa. Fuck everyone in that spa that does not have a penis, their feelings are not important because the ONE trans person there that has a penis is upset at the situation.


Equal rights. If they're a woman, they have a right to be there unless the spa has a reason to ban them from the premises such as prior problems there. If you don't consider trans women to be women then also throwing on the retirement of passing when it means nothing to you kinda makes you seem like a jerk who raises the bar for no reason.

And an ignorant one for ignoring all those butch girls out there who could pass for men yet get allowed in women's spaces.

Which is it, they need to pass or genitals? But you bring up both and demanding both? That's totally inexcusable while we still live in a society where being trans can get you fired without issue in like 48 states. I guess 47 if you count all the districts and cities that do have protections in those crappy states. Plus the cost. Do you require anybody else get a highly personal, invasive surgery and years of medical treatment before you'll interact with them? One that costs tens of thousands? One that you consider cosmetic and don't even want covered by insurance despite it adding under 20 cents to your annual insurance costs to cover all trans medical care.

It's because you don't bother to consider that, when all put together, you are for upholding prejudice against us. Yet you think that feelings of cis people are more important than the rights of a trans person. However you justify it is merely showing your hatred. Perhaps it's subconscious, but it's there and the fact you consciously uphold and believe such things makes it clear that you only want concessions from those you have power over, yet refuse to make any of your own.

And you'll probably accuse me of the same. When it comes to human rights, there can be no concessions. All or nothing. And so far, it's still basically nothing besides in like 2 states.
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scar the 1
09/06/17 10:44:40 AM
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Ricky Williams posted...
To prior guy, everybody has made clear that they aren't expecting Delta to lower ticket costs, just not to gouge. They aren't gouging, that was my entire point.

Yeah point taken. I agree they aren't gouging.
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Dustin1280
09/06/17 10:45:34 AM
#57:


gunplagirl posted...
Equal rights. If they're a woman, they have a right to be there unless the spa has a reason to ban them from the premises such as prior problems there. If you don't consider trans women to be women then also throwing on the retirement of passing when it means nothing to you kinda makes you seem like a jerk who raises the bar for no reason.

And an ignorant one for ignoring all those butch girls out there who could pass for men yet get allowed in women's spaces.

Which is it, they need to pass or genitals? But you bring up both and demanding both? That's totally inexcusable while we still live in a society where being trans can get you fired without issue in like 48 states. I guess 47 if you count all the districts and cities that do have protections in those crappy states. Plus the cost. Do you require anybody else get a highly personal, invasive surgery and years of medical treatment before you'll interact with them? One that costs tens of thousands? One that you consider cosmetic and don't even want covered by insurance despite it adding under 20 cents to your annual insurance costs to cover all trans medical care.

It's because you don't bother to consider that, when all put together, you are for upholding prejudice against us. Yet you think that feelings of cis people are more important than the rights of a trans person. However you justify it is merely showing your hatred. Perhaps it's subconscious, but it's there and the fact you consciously uphold and believe such things makes it clear that you only want concessions from those you have power over, yet refuse to make any of your own.

And you'll probably accuse me of the same. When it comes to human rights, there can be no concessions. All or nothing. And so far, it's still basically nothing besides in like 2 states.

That's not equal rights that's trance supremacy, that spa accepts all females and transfemales provided they don't have a penis. The ONE concession is that you must not have a penis if you want to be at that spa.

Because it is a fully nude female only spa, anyone walking around with a penis is going to make other people that do no have a penis uncomfortable for ANY NUMBER OF REASONS.
But fuck those reasons, that person has a "feminen penis" and as such should be allowed in the spa. That is trans supremacy to a tee, not equal rights. If the world worked the way you wanted it to, that would allow any man to simply claim he is a women (proof or not) and gain access to that spa.

also rabble rabble delta
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NinjaBreakfast
09/06/17 10:47:55 AM
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Dustin1280 posted...
trance supremacy

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Dustin1280
09/06/17 10:48:42 AM
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NinjaBreakfast posted...
Dustin1280 posted...
trance supremacy

fixed typo
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PiOverlord
09/06/17 10:49:04 AM
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Price ceilings would be a worse solution.
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gunplagirl
09/06/17 10:50:42 AM
#61:


Dustin1280 posted...
gunplagirl posted...
Equal rights. If they're a woman, they have a right to be there unless the spa has a reason to ban them from the premises such as prior problems there. If you don't consider trans women to be women then also throwing on the retirement of passing when it means nothing to you kinda makes you seem like a jerk who raises the bar for no reason.

And an ignorant one for ignoring all those butch girls out there who could pass for men yet get allowed in women's spaces.

Which is it, they need to pass or genitals? But you bring up both and demanding both? That's totally inexcusable while we still live in a society where being trans can get you fired without issue in like 48 states. I guess 47 if you count all the districts and cities that do have protections in those crappy states. Plus the cost. Do you require anybody else get a highly personal, invasive surgery and years of medical treatment before you'll interact with them? One that costs tens of thousands? One that you consider cosmetic and don't even want covered by insurance despite it adding under 20 cents to your annual insurance costs to cover all trans medical care.

It's because you don't bother to consider that, when all put together, you are for upholding prejudice against us. Yet you think that feelings of cis people are more important than the rights of a trans person. However you justify it is merely showing your hatred. Perhaps it's subconscious, but it's there and the fact you consciously uphold and believe such things makes it clear that you only want concessions from those you have power over, yet refuse to make any of your own.

And you'll probably accuse me of the same. When it comes to human rights, there can be no concessions. All or nothing. And so far, it's still basically nothing besides in like 2 states.

That's not equal rights that's trance supremacy, that spa accepts all females and transfemales provided they don't have a penis. The ONE concession is that you must not have a penis if you want to be at that spa.

Because it is a fully nude female only spa, anyone walking around with a penis is going to make other people that do no have a penis uncomfortable for ANY NUMBER OF REASONS.
But fuck those reasons, that person has a "feminen penis" and as such should be allowed in the spa. That is trance supremacy to a tee, not equal rights. If the world worked the way you wanted it to, that would allow any man to simply claim he is a women (proof or not) and gain access to that spa.

The concession is not how you think it works. It's that they only let women who meet their definition of women in. Imagine if it was race. "No Latina women." That's not equality if the concession is they'll let people of color in but not one specific sub group.

Either let all women in or none. But clearly this event is for women. And all trans women are women.

You'll never find an example of any man or boy doing what you say will happen. Sure there might be one or two who have dressed as women to try and kidnap kids but know what? It took one quick look into the persons home life and wardrobe to be able to prove they weren't a woman and even if they were, they had to actually break the law to be stopped.

So unless you're suggesting having a penis is a crime...?
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NinjaBreakfast
09/06/17 10:51:02 AM
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oh sorry fyi suggesting 'trans supremacy' is a thing is also laughable
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gunplagirl
09/06/17 10:52:06 AM
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That's also not supremacy. "All cis people must bow and worship their trans overlords and take hormones and become trans as well" would be supremacy.

So yeah. As I said, you consider giving minorities equal treatment and rights to somehow infringe upon your own.
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gunplagirl
09/06/17 10:53:07 AM
#64:


NinjaBreakfast posted...
Dustin1280 posted...
trance supremacy

Kuja from FFIX would make such a cute girl. But even if he didn't become a girl, he's still adorable.
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gunplagirl
09/06/17 10:54:23 AM
#65:


NinjaBreakfast posted...
oh sorry fyi suggesting 'trans supremacy' is a thing is also laughable

"Bow before me, cis 'people' and praise me as the ultimate life form. Also, Jesus was trans because he had no father, only a mother and therefore would be a clone of her and therefore would have been a trans man."
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Dustin1280
09/06/17 10:57:16 AM
#66:


trans supremacy is perhaps the wrong word, but you want special rights that other people DO NOT HAVE and that is the issue.

It is by no means "equal rights."

Anyway, I will let it be at this point because you are going to remain crazy and are incapable of understanding why having a penis in an all womens spa JUST might be an issue to people that aren't your special brand of crazy.
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gunplagirl
09/06/17 11:00:38 AM
#67:


Dustin1280 posted...
trans supremacy is perhaps the wrong word, but you want special rights that other people DO NOT HAVE and that is the issue.

It is by no means "equal rights."

Anyway, I will let it be at this point because you are going to remain crazy and are incapable of understanding why having a penis in an all womens spa JUST might be an issue to people that aren't your special brand of crazy.


Trans women want to be treated as women. That's not special rights. That's literally just rights.

If you have a problem with women having penises then you're the one who refuses to acknowledge the changing times.
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The_Donald
09/06/17 11:02:51 AM
#68:


gunplagirl posted...
If you have a problem with women having penises then you're the one who refuses to acknowledge the changing times.


gunplagirl posted...
If you have a problem with women having penises then you're the one who refuses to acknowledge the changing times.


gunplagirl posted...
If you have a problem with women having penises then you're the one who refuses to acknowledge the changing times.


gunplagirl posted...
If you have a problem with women having penises then you're the one who refuses to acknowledge the changing times.


gunplagirl posted...
If you have a problem with women having penises then you're the one who refuses to acknowledge the changing times.


gunplagirl posted...
If you have a problem with women having penises then you're the one who refuses to acknowledge the changing times.


gunplagirl posted...
If you have a problem with women having penises then you're the one who refuses to acknowledge the changing times.

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gunplagirl
09/06/17 11:06:17 AM
#69:


Whoa when did we get the ability to have 7 quote boxes it used to be 5 for ever
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Forlorn_Ass
09/06/17 11:08:55 AM
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They can charge whatever they want it's their company lol. Capitalism is the most fair of an economic system you can get.
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lww99
09/06/17 2:39:36 PM
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https://www.facebook.com/yahoo/posts/10155989860099714

Don't feel like finding a better source. But JetBlue is capping outgoing flights at $99.

Fuck Delta.
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