Current Events > Daily reminder that if it's ok to punch Nazis, it's also ok to punch Commies.

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If they can do something I say is wrong wrong, that means it's not wrong, if I do it.

Strange logic.
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_Near_ posted...

post 38 - punching nazis makes you worse than them

it's always nice when admiral shows up to defend white supremacy so i don't have to point it out myself

Nope. Not defending nazis.

He literally said if you punch some loser who is just being a non violent edgy piece of shit...then you're worse than him

Im not sure if you fully understand what it means to "defend nazis"
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_Near_ posted...

i'd like to say that one day we'll have a topic when you won't furiously defend nazis

The Admiral posted...

Keep working at that remedial reading!

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PoopMcgee420 posted...

He literally said if you punch some loser who is just being a non violent edgy piece of shit...then you're worse than him

no, he literally said that punching a nazi makes you worse than a nazi.
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_Near_ posted...

Dragonblade01 posted...

Maybe just don't punch people?

maybe just don't be a fucking nazi

I didn't realize this was an either or situation.
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_Near_ posted...

PoopMcgee420 posted...

He literally said if you punch some loser who is just being a non violent edgy piece of shit...then you're worse than him

no, he literally said that punching a nazi makes you worse than a nazi.

Copy and paste where he said that in post 38
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Dash_Harber posted...

Except there is nothing inherently in communism that says 'commit genocide against innocents'.

yes there is. the entire system is predicated on violence and subversion to try to achieve its goals.

Dragonblade01 posted...

_Near_ posted...

Dragonblade01 posted...

Maybe just don't punch people?

maybe just don't be a fucking nazi

I didn't realize this was an either or situation.

well, one is better than the other.

if you stop being a nazis, then people are going to stop punching nazis, cause there's no nazis.

but if people stop punching nazis, then there'll still be nazis, which sucks.
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PoopMcgee420 posted...

Nope. Not defending nazis.

He literally said if you punch some loser who is just being a non violent edgy piece of shit...then you're worse than him

When you take someone with an abhorrent worldview based on hatred and genocide who marched through a town with torches and weapons and threatening people, and hand-wave it to make them into a simple harmless loser who is trying to be edgy...yes. You're defending them. It'd be like me calling Michael Brown a good kid who just made a mistake. That's full of spin, and you know it.

I don't agree with punching nazis, neo nazis, or white supremacists. But doing it doesn't make you "worse" than them. Just like punching Jared from Subway--it would mean you did something bad and illegal, but it wouldn't somehow make you worse than a child predator.
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Is Near a gimmick account. What's wrong with this guy
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_Near_ posted...

Dragonblade01 posted...

_Near_ posted...

Dragonblade01 posted...

Maybe just don't punch people?

maybe just don't be a fucking nazi

I didn't realize this was an either or situation.

well, one is better than the other.

if you stop being a nazis, then people are going to stop punching nazis, cause there's no nazis.

but if people stop punching nazis, then there'll still be nazis, which sucks.

But people label anyone who is a white conservative and disagrees with them a nazi...so no.

I mean you're a prime example of someone who doesnt know the difference between nazi, neo nazi, & white conservative
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_Near_ posted...

Dragonblade01 posted...

_Near_ posted...

Dragonblade01 posted...

Maybe just don't punch people?

maybe just don't be a fucking nazi

I didn't realize this was an either or situation.

well, one is better than the other.

if you stop being a nazis, then people are going to stop punching nazis, cause there's no nazis.

but if people stop punching nazis, then there'll still be nazis, which sucks.

...nothing about either of those propositions connects not punching people with not being a nazi.
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PoopMcgee420 posted...

_Near_ posted...

PoopMcgee420 posted...

He literally said if you punch some loser who is just being a non violent edgy piece of shit...then you're worse than him

no, he literally said that punching a nazi makes you worse than a nazi.

Copy and paste where he said that in post 38

The Admiral posted...

CrimsonRage posted...

Punching people unprovoked is bad, but that in no way makes someone shittier than a Nazi. Come on, remember what Nazi ideology is actually about.

Yes, as much as it might hurt your feelings, it does.

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PoopMcgee420 posted...

But people label anyone who is a white conservative and disagrees with them a nazi...so no.

You need to stop with this. If you're talking to an actual person, address them. We're talking about actual neo nazis and white supremacists here, not this pathetic strawman you keep bringing up.
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That_Happened posted...

PoopMcgee420 posted...

Nope. Not defending nazis.

He literally said if you punch some loser who is just being a non violent edgy piece of shit...then you're worse than him

When you take someone with an abhorrent worldview based on hatred and genocide who marched through a town with torches and weapons and threatening people, and hand-wave it to make them into a simple harmless loser who is trying to be edgy...yes. You're defending them. It'd be like me calling Michael Brown a good kid who just made a mistake. That's full of spin, and you know it.

I don't agree with punching nazis, neo nazis, or white supremacists. But doing it doesn't make you "worse" than them. Just like punching Jared from Subway--it would mean you did something bad and illegal, but it wouldn't somehow make you worse than a child predator.

Again idc im all for punching anyone in the face who preaches hate. But i also understand if i punch someone who isn't violent or threatening my life there is consequences.

And yes punching someone in the face for saying mean things.... usually makes you worse than the person talking shit.
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CE really does contain some of the most aggressively god damn stupid people I've ever encountered.
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PoopMcgee420 posted...

Again idc im all for punching anyone in the face who preaches hate. But i also understand if i punch someone who isn't violent or threatening my life there is consequences.

These neo nazis and white supremacists were threatening people. That's what their ideology is all about. So that's where your argument falls apart, and you should acknowledge it.

PoopMcgee420 posted...

And yes punching someone in the face for saying mean things.... usually makes you worse than the person talking shit.

And when we discuss someone who merely insulted your wife, then we'll talk about "saying mean things." But right now we are discussing people who actively look for ways to harm people. They intimidate and threaten. That is not just "saying mean things."
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That_Happened posted...

PoopMcgee420 posted...

But people label anyone who is a white conservative and disagrees with them a nazi...so no.

You need to stop with this. If you're talking to an actual person, address them. We're talking about actual neo nazis and white supremacists here, not this pathetic strawman you keep bringing up.

Again when you cant tell the difference between the three its going be brought up. Maybe you guys on left should stop crying wolf everytime and people might actually take the accusations serious.

Being called racist or a nazi has lost all meaning because of how frequent and how many times you guys falsely throw the term around
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_Near_ posted...

PoopMcgee420 posted...

_Near_ posted...

PoopMcgee420 posted...

He literally said if you punch some loser who is just being a non violent edgy piece of shit...then you're worse than him

no, he literally said that punching a nazi makes you worse than a nazi.

Copy and paste where he said that in post 38

The Admiral posted...

CrimsonRage posted...

Punching people unprovoked is bad, but that in no way makes someone shittier than a Nazi. Come on, remember what Nazi ideology is actually about.

Yes, as much as it might hurt your feelings, it does.

Oh selective reading is a thing you do? My apologies. Ill tag you as a gimmick and move along. Wish you the best with your gimmick Near
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PoopMcgee420 posted...

But people label anyone who is a white conservative and disagrees with them a nazi...so no.

yeah because in germany where nazi propaganda is illegal, the government is shutting down conservatives for expressing their opinions

oh and i wish i had a nickel for every time a ce idiot calls nazism "different ideas than you".
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PoopMcgee420 posted...

That_Happened posted...

PoopMcgee420 posted...

But people label anyone who is a white conservative and disagrees with them a nazi...so no.

You need to stop with this. If you're talking to an actual person, address them. We're talking about actual neo nazis and white supremacists here, not this pathetic strawman you keep bringing up.

Again

No. Stopping you there. Enough with the "again, I have a strawman." Have a discussion with the actual people in this topic and what they are actually saying, NOT some bullshit you make up about liberals who incorrectly call anyone who disagrees with universal healthcare or solutions for illegal immigration "Nazis."
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That_Happened posted...

And when we discuss someone who merely insulted your wife, then we'll talk about "saying mean things." But right now we are discussing people who actively look for ways to harm people. They intimidate and threaten. That is not just "saying mean things."

Glad we agree that we can and should start punching BLM members and supporters
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That_Happened posted...

PoopMcgee420 posted...

That_Happened posted...

PoopMcgee420 posted...

But people label anyone who is a white conservative and disagrees with them a nazi...so no.

You need to stop with this. If you're talking to an actual person, address them. We're talking about actual neo nazis and white supremacists here, not this pathetic strawman you keep bringing up.

Again

No. Stopping you there. Enough with the "again, I have a strawman." Have a discussion with the actual people in this topic and what they are actually saying, NOT some bullshit you make up about liberals who incorrectly call anyone who disagrees with universal healthcare or solutions for illegal immigration "Nazis."

No strawmen. Sorry you cried wolf so many times that no one else cares
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PoopMcgee420 posted...

Oh selective reading is a thing you do? My apologies. Ill tag you as a gimmick and move along. Wish you the best with your gimmick Near

yeah, no response. that's what i thought, lol
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PoopMcgee420 posted...

Glad we agree that we can and should start punching BLM members and supporters

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That_Happened posted...

You have a situation where people are literally carrying weapons and threatening your life based on your skin color or religion. Sorry, but you do not become a shittier person than them just because you attack before they do. That, too, is self defense. For the record, if you want to punch an Antifa member who is holding a brick, feel free.

Now acknowledge my point instead of being all squirrely because you realize your argument is shot.
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If someone expresses an idea, whatever it is, that doesn't give you permission to punch them.

If someone commits a crime while expressing said idea, they should be punished for the crime.
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Dash_Harber posted...

Except there is nothing inherently in communism that says 'commit genocide against innocents'.

Dragonblade01 posted...

If someone expresses an idea, whatever it is, that doesn't give you permission to punch them.

I disagree. If the idea someone expresses threatens your livelihood, then you have the right to defend yourself. It's why intimidation is a crime.
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That_Happened posted...

Dragonblade01 posted...

If someone expresses an idea, whatever it is, that doesn't give you permission to punch them.

I disagree. If the idea someone expresses threatens your livelihood, then you have the right to defend yourself. It's why intimidation is a crime.

I specifically talked about crime in the part you omitted. I have no problem with legal self-defense.
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Dragonblade01 posted...

If someone expresses an idea, whatever it is, that doesn't give you permission to punch them.

If the idea is that me, my entire family, and my entire race should die and that they're going to work towards that goal, then yeah, you get permission to punch them.
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That_Happened posted...

I disagree. If the idea someone expresses threatens your livelihood, then you have the right to defend yourself.

In that case, there's lots of people who are justified in punching Bernie supporters.
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Dragonblade01 posted...

That_Happened posted...

Dragonblade01 posted...

If someone expresses an idea, whatever it is, that doesn't give you permission to punch them.

I disagree. If the idea someone expresses threatens your livelihood, then you have the right to defend yourself. It's why intimidation is a crime.

I specifically talked about crime in the part you omitted. I have no problem with legal self-defense.

Then you have no problem with people punching Nazis who carry weapons and threaten people. Good. Neither do I.
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_Near_ posted...

Dragonblade01 posted...

If someone expresses an idea, whatever it is, that doesn't give you permission to punch them.

If the idea is that me, my entire family, and my entire race should die and that they're going to work towards that goal, then yeah, you get permission to punch them.

Unfortunately, that isn't true. You could probably get a decent criminal charge going against them for that though.
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Dragonblade01 posted...

Unfortunately, that isn't true.

Not legally, but morally.

Dragonblade01 posted...

You could probably get a decent criminal charge going against them for that though.

If that was the case, Nazi propaganda would be illegal in the united states. It isn't.
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That_Happened posted...

Dragonblade01 posted...

That_Happened posted...

Dragonblade01 posted...

If someone expresses an idea, whatever it is, that doesn't give you permission to punch them.

I disagree. If the idea someone expresses threatens your livelihood, then you have the right to defend yourself. It's why intimidation is a crime.

I specifically talked about crime in the part you omitted. I have no problem with legal self-defense.

Then you have no problem with people punching Nazis who carry weapons and threaten people. Good. Neither do I.

Let's not forget that one of the earlier instances of this was someone sucker punching a neo nazi during an interview some years ago.

That's the behavior I don't condone.
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Dash_Harber posted...

Except there is nothing inherently in communism that says 'commit genocide against innocents'.

Irrelevant. It has been proven beyond any doubt that Communism leads to mass death and suffering of innocent people.

hockeybub89 posted...

Yeah this is a topic. Real question is: Do you think we should punch commies, Mal?

No, because I'm not a psycho who thinks it's ok to assault people for having reprehensible views.

pinky0926 posted...

Mal obviously feels personally attacked because he read that some idiots equate anyone right of center as Nazi, and took that to heart so much that he needs to make daily topics telling most people who dgaf either way what they don't care to hear, because he feels threatened and marginalised by the liberal boogieman

It's not really a bogeyman anymore when police need to escort a free speech rally of 50 people led by an Indian politician to safety because they're surrounded by thousands of freaks shouting "Nazis go home"....

CrimsonRage posted...

Don't know if he would punch commies, but if it commies were getting punched, he wouldn't care nearly as much, I guarantee you that.

You'd be wrong.

Stop projecting your personal hypocrisies onto me, k?
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Dragonblade01 posted...

Let's not forget that one of the earlier instances of this was someone sucker punching a neo nazi during an interview some years ago.

That's the behavior I don't condone.

That_Happened posted...

The Admiral posted...

And I included the proper content -- that you attacked a person without provocation

If we're talking about sucker punching Richard Spencer, I agree.
If we're talking about punching a guy holding a weapon and screaming in your face about how you should be eliminated, I disagree.

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That_Happened posted...

PoopMcgee420 posted...

Glad we agree that we can and should start punching BLM members and supporters

Post #53

That_Happened posted...

You have a situation where people are literally carrying weapons and threatening your life based on your skin color or religion. Sorry, but you do not become a shittier person than them just because you attack before they do. That, too, is self defense. For the record, if you want to punch an Antifa member who is holding a brick, feel free.

Now acknowledge my point instead of being all squirrely because you realize your argument is shot.

My very first post was saying how im all for punch a nazi
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_Near_ posted...

Not legally, but morally.

Pretty sure punching people outside of self defense or a boxing ring is looked down upon as well.

If that was the case, Nazi propaganda would be illegal in the united states. It isn't.

Then clearly they aren't doing something specific enough to be labeled a hate crime or threat in the eyes of the law.
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Dragonblade01 posted...

_Near_ posted...

If the idea is that me, my entire family, and my entire race should die and that they're going to work towards that goal, then yeah, you get permission to punch them.

Unfortunately, that isn't true. You could probably get a decent criminal charge going against them for that though.

Yeah, I think it's reckless to suggest here on CE that it's fine to punch people that hold those opinions, even if they're publicly voicing them. I mean I know not to be violent and I'm sure a lot of people know it too, but I bet there are quite a few impressionable minds here who don't know any better, and might actually get arrested for taking Near's terrible advice.
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Axiom posted...

Dash_Harber posted...

Except there is nothing inherently in communism that says 'commit genocide against innocents'.

But it does tho
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That_Happened posted...

Dragonblade01 posted...

Let's not forget that one of the earlier instances of this was someone sucker punching a neo nazi during an interview some years ago.

That's the behavior I don't condone.

That_Happened posted...

The Admiral posted...

And I included the proper content -- that you attacked a person without provocation

If we're talking about sucker punching Richard Spencer, I agree.
If we're talking about punching a guy holding a weapon and screaming in your face about how you should be eliminated, I disagree.

If you agree with me then why did you take issue with my post in the first place?
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That_Happened posted...

If we're talking about punching a guy holding a weapon and screaming in your face about how you should be eliminated, I disagree.

That's almost never the context in the cases of violent leftists.
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Mal_Fet posted...

That_Happened posted...

If we're talking about punching a guy holding a weapon and screaming in your face about how you should be eliminated, I disagree.

That's almost never the context in the cases of violent leftists.

I thought this topic was about punching Nazis.
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hockeybub89 posted...

Mal_Fet posted...

That_Happened posted...

If we're talking about punching a guy holding a weapon and screaming in your face about how you should be eliminated, I disagree.

That's almost never the context in the cases of violent leftists.

I thought this topic was about punching Nazis.

it's about how communists deserve to be punched alongside the nazis

hockeybub89 posted...

Mal_Fet posted...

That_Happened posted...

If we're talking about punching a guy holding a weapon and screaming in your face about how you should be eliminated, I disagree.

That's almost never the context in the cases of violent leftists.

I thought this topic was about punching Nazis.

Its about how its okay to punch nazis and commies


Reading comprehension @hockeybub89 get some
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hockeybub89 posted...

Mal_Fet posted...

That_Happened posted...

If we're talking about punching a guy holding a weapon and screaming in your face about how you should be eliminated, I disagree.

That's almost never the context in the cases of violent leftists.

I thought this topic was about punching Nazis.

It's ok to punch anyone who is an imminent threat to you, Nazi or not.
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PoopMcgee420 posted...

Reading comprehension @hockeybub89 get some

i like how this is your stock deflection
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Dragonblade01 posted...

If you agree with me then why did you take issue with my post in the first place?

Because you suggested that "if someone commits a crime they should be punished for the crime" which seemed to suggest that punching them was wrong. But if that crime is intimidation, I don't think someone should wait for the police to come and sort it out. If someone needs to defend themselves then I don't care, and also I don't think it makes that person somehow "worse" than a nazi.
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_Near_ posted...

PoopMcgee420 posted...

Reading comprehension @hockeybub89 get some

i like how this is your stock deflection

Only to you and hockey


Please keep up
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