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Doe 09/04/17 8:13:08 PM #1:	What is his weakness supposed to be --- http://i.imgur.com/iwo6yR9.jpg http://i.imgur.com/uqXNtk6.jpg <cite>Doe posted [p:886028362] in How did Me... [t:75741858]...</cite> <quote>What is his weakness supposed to be</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Hexagon 09/04/17 8:16:42 PM #2:	His weakness is a good developer testing team, but it was too late for that. It's like they never put 2 and 2 together. The way metaknight plays as a CPU he doesn't use any of his most cheap moves like spamming tornado or using his recovery as an offensive knockback. Never spams down smash. They did the same with fox/falco/marth. Those CPU characters never use their moves in quick succession. <cite>Hexagon posted [p:886028573] in How did Me... [t:75741858]...</cite> <quote>His weakness is a good developer testing team, but it was too late for that. It's like they never put 2 and 2 together. The way metaknight plays as a CPU he doesn't use any of his most cheap moves like spamming tornado or using his recovery as an offensive knockback. Never spams down smash. They did the same with fox/falco/marth. Those CPU characters never use their moves in quick succession.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zero_Destroyer 09/04/17 8:17:16 PM #3:	Game dev was dominated by Subspace Emissary and character balance wasn't a priority so no real thoughtful playtesting was done --- Enjoy movies and television? Check out my blog! I do reviews and analyses. http://fictionrantreview.wordpress.com/ (The Force Awakens spoiler review up!) <cite>Zero_Destroyer posted [p:886028605] in How did Me... [t:75741858]...</cite> <quote>Game dev was dominated by Subspace Emissary and character balance wasn't a priority so no real thoughtful playtesting was done</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
kuwab0 09/04/17 8:20:15 PM #4:	Was any character a hard counter for him in Brawl? --- http://i.imgur.com/QfpP05s.png http://i.imgur.com/vdnZ1o6.png http://i.imgur.com/zTgf822.png <cite>kuwab0 posted [p:886028788] in How did Me... [t:75741858]...</cite> <quote>Was any character a hard counter for him in Brawl?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Delirious_Beard 09/04/17 8:21:09 PM #5:	sakurai intentionally made brawl less fun to play in a competitive environment --- http://i.imgur.com/5UL2v5u.gif "Does our ruin benefit the earth? Does it help the grass to grow, the sun to shine? Is this darkness in you, too?" <cite>Delirious_Beard posted [p:886028839] in How did Me... [t:75741858]...</cite> <quote>sakurai intentionally made brawl less fun to play in a competitive environment</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zero_Destroyer 09/04/17 8:21:34 PM #6:	kuwab0 posted... Was any character a hard counter for him in Brawl? lord no lol he had winning matchups on every character --- Enjoy movies and television? Check out my blog! I do reviews and analyses. http://fictionrantreview.wordpress.com/ (The Force Awakens spoiler review up!) <cite>Zero_Destroyer posted [p:886028871] in How did Me... [t:75741858]...</cite> <quote><cite>kuwab0 posted...</cite> <quote>Was any character a hard counter for him in Brawl?</quote> lord no lol he had winning matchups on every character</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GiftedACIII 09/04/17 8:22:29 PM #7:	It accurately reflected how badass he was compared the other roster. --- </topic> <cite>GiftedACIII posted [p:886028924] in How did Me... [t:75741858]...</cite> <quote>It accurately reflected how badass he was compared the other roster.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zero_Destroyer 09/04/17 8:23:10 PM #8:	GiftedACIII posted... It accurately reflected how badass he was compared the other roster. ike tho --- Enjoy movies and television? Check out my blog! I do reviews and analyses. http://fictionrantreview.wordpress.com/ (The Force Awakens spoiler review up!) <cite>Zero_Destroyer posted [p:886028952] in How did Me... [t:75741858]...</cite> <quote><cite>GiftedACIII posted...</cite> <quote>It accurately reflected how badass he was compared the other roster.</quote> ike tho</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Cookie Bag 09/04/17 8:23:37 PM #9:	Delirious_Beard posted... sakurai intentionally made brawl less fun to play in a competitive environment Good thing no one actively looks that in a party game. --- http://error1355.com/ce/Cookie%20Bag.html <cite>Cookie Bag posted [p:886028978] in How did Me... [t:75741858]...</cite> <quote><cite>Delirious_Beard posted...</cite> <quote>sakurai intentionally made brawl less fun to play in a competitive environment</quote> Good thing no one actively looks that in a party game.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Xenozoa425 09/04/17 8:24:07 PM #10:	Sakurai did all the balancing himself so all the Kirby characters in Brawl were really good. --- PSN: tehross425 <cite>Xenozoa425 posted [p:886029004] in How did Me... [t:75741858]...</cite> <quote>Sakurai did all the balancing himself so all the Kirby characters in Brawl were really good.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zero_Destroyer 09/04/17 8:24:26 PM #11:	Xenozoa425 posted... Sakurai did all the balancing himself so all the Kirby characters in Brawl were really good. kirby was bad --- Enjoy movies and television? Check out my blog! I do reviews and analyses. http://fictionrantreview.wordpress.com/ (The Force Awakens spoiler review up!) <cite>Zero_Destroyer posted [p:886029020] in How did Me... [t:75741858]...</cite> <quote><cite>Xenozoa425 posted...</cite> <quote>Sakurai did all the balancing himself so all the Kirby characters in Brawl were really good.</quote> kirby was bad</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zero_Destroyer 09/04/17 8:24:47 PM #12:	in fact, kirby has been terrible in every smash game except 64 LUL --- Enjoy movies and television? Check out my blog! I do reviews and analyses. http://fictionrantreview.wordpress.com/ (The Force Awakens spoiler review up!) <cite>Zero_Destroyer posted [p:886029039] in How did Me... [t:75741858]...</cite> <quote>in fact, kirby has been terrible in every smash game except 64 LUL</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Blue_Inigo 09/04/17 8:26:31 PM #13:	GiftedACIII posted... It accurately reflected how badass he was compared the other roster. --- "This is your last dance." <cite>Blue_Inigo posted [p:886029161] in How did Me... [t:75741858]...</cite> <quote><cite>GiftedACIII posted...</cite> <quote>It accurately reflected how badass he was compared the other roster.</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GiftedACIII 09/04/17 8:26:40 PM #14:	Zero_Destroyer posted... GiftedACIII posted... It accurately reflected how badass he was compared the other roster. ike tho PoR Ike, the one in brawl is kind of meh. --- </topic> <cite>GiftedACIII posted [p:886029169] in How did Me... [t:75741858]...</cite> <quote><cite>Zero_Destroyer posted...</cite> <quote><cite>GiftedACIII posted...</cite> <quote>It accurately reflected how badass he was compared the other roster.</quote> ike tho</quote> PoR Ike, the one in brawl is kind of meh.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Xenozoa425 09/04/17 8:27:32 PM #15:	Zero_Destroyer posted... kirby was bad Yep you're right. I was thinking of 64 Kirby too lmao --- PSN: tehross425 <cite>Xenozoa425 posted [p:886029223] in How did Me... [t:75741858]...</cite> <quote><cite>Zero_Destroyer posted...</cite> <quote>kirby was bad</quote> Yep you're right. I was thinking of 64 Kirby too lmao</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
wah_wah_wah 09/04/17 8:29:40 PM #16:	It was a case of the professional fighting game scene doing the playtesting first. It didn't take long to find the advantage of a character who has a recovery option with every single special move and also a million standard jumps. <cite>wah_wah_wah posted [p:886029353] in How did Me... [t:75741858]...</cite> <quote>It was a case of the professional fighting game scene doing the playtesting first. It didn't take long to find the advantage of a character who has a recovery option with every single special move and also a million standard jumps.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Banjo2553 09/04/17 8:30:35 PM #17:	Zero_Destroyer posted... kuwab0 posted... Was any character a hard counter for him in Brawl? lord no lol he had winning matchups on every character The only even matchup was against himself, IIRC. --- Game collection: http://www.backloggery.com/bakonbitz Gaming channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCwVQm69J7bGScbv3_50C0dA <cite>Banjo2553 posted [p:886029415] in How did Me... [t:75741858]...</cite> <quote><cite>Zero_Destroyer posted...</cite> <quote><cite>kuwab0 posted...</cite> <quote>Was any character a hard counter for him in Brawl?</quote> lord no lol he had winning matchups on every character</quote> The only even matchup was against himself, IIRC.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
wah_wah_wah 09/04/17 8:31:50 PM #18:	Banjo2553 posted... Zero_Destroyer posted... kuwab0 posted... Was any character a hard counter for him in Brawl? lord no lol he had winning matchups on every character The only even matchup was against himself, IIRC. That would be the case with every character against themselves, obviously <cite>wah_wah_wah posted [p:886029469] in How did Me... [t:75741858]...</cite> <quote><cite>Banjo2553 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Zero_Destroyer posted...</cite> <quote><cite>kuwab0 posted...</cite> <quote>Was any character a hard counter for him in Brawl?</quote> lord no lol he had winning matchups on every character</quote> The only even matchup was against himself, IIRC.</quote> That would be the case with every character against themselves, obviously</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Delirious_Beard 09/04/17 8:32:35 PM #19:	Cookie Bag posted... Delirious_Beard posted... sakurai intentionally made brawl less fun to play in a competitive environment Good thing no one actively looks that in a party game. sure but a lot of stuff was just bad design in general like removing momentum carrying over into jumps, the ability to fucking cancel hitstun, not to mention all the glitches and busted grab release and chain grab nonsense it was just a badly designed game in general, and it looked like ass too --- http://i.imgur.com/5UL2v5u.gif "Does our ruin benefit the earth? Does it help the grass to grow, the sun to shine? Is this darkness in you, too?" <cite>Delirious_Beard posted [p:886029526] in How did Me... [t:75741858]...</cite> <quote><cite>Cookie Bag posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Delirious_Beard posted...</cite> <quote>sakurai intentionally made brawl less fun to play in a competitive environment</quote> Good thing no one actively looks that in a party game.</quote> sure but a lot of stuff was just bad design in general like removing momentum carrying over into jumps, the ability to fucking cancel hitstun, not to mention all the glitches and busted grab release and chain grab nonsense it was just a badly designed game in general, and it looked like ass too</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
EyeWontBeFooled 09/04/17 8:34:50 PM #20:	wah_wah_wah posted... Banjo2553 posted... Zero_Destroyer posted... kuwab0 posted... Was any character a hard counter for him in Brawl? lord no lol he had winning matchups on every character The only even matchup was against himself, IIRC. That would be the case with every character against themselves, obviously But that was the only even matchup. --- Welcome to the Brave New World of 1984! Current temp: Fahrenheit 451 It's never a bad day, and always a good night, so BE HAPPY and enjoy your stay! <cite>EyeWontBeFooled posted [p:886029666] in How did Me... [t:75741858]...</cite> <quote><cite>wah_wah_wah posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Banjo2553 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Zero_Destroyer posted...</cite> <quote><cite>kuwab0 posted...</cite> <quote>Was any character a hard counter for him in Brawl?</quote> lord no lol he had winning matchups on every character</quote> The only even matchup was against himself, IIRC.</quote> That would be the case with every character against themselves, obviously</quote> But that was the only even matchup.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Banjo2553 09/04/17 8:35:42 PM #21:	wah_wah_wah posted... That would be the case with every character against themselves, obviously I remember Meta Knight being a particularly weird case, though. Maybe I remembered the exact matchup wrong. --- Game collection: http://www.backloggery.com/bakonbitz Gaming channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCwVQm69J7bGScbv3_50C0dA <cite>Banjo2553 posted [p:886029722] in How did Me... [t:75741858]...</cite> <quote><cite>wah_wah_wah posted...</cite> <quote>That would be the case with every character against themselves, obviously</quote> I remember Meta Knight being a particularly weird case, though. Maybe I remembered the exact matchup wrong.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
wah_wah_wah 09/04/17 8:41:45 PM #22:	Banjo2553 posted... wah_wah_wah posted... That would be the case with every character against themselves, obviously I remember Meta Knight being a particularly weird case, though. Maybe I remembered the exact matchup wrong. If so I haven't heard it. I doubt the programming of one Meta Knight would change simply by having another on there. I do remember something about how who is first or second player having to do with... something or something. <cite>wah_wah_wah posted [p:886030070] in How did Me... [t:75741858]...</cite> <quote><cite>Banjo2553 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>wah_wah_wah posted...</cite> <quote>That would be the case with every character against themselves, obviously</quote> I remember Meta Knight being a particularly weird case, though. Maybe I remembered the exact matchup wrong.</quote> If so I haven't heard it. I doubt the programming of one Meta Knight would change simply by having another on there. I do remember something about how who is first or second player having to do with... something or something.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Doe 09/04/17 8:42:52 PM #23:	tfw Ganondorf has negative match-up against Ganondorf on account that you picked Ganondorf --- http://i.imgur.com/iwo6yR9.jpg http://i.imgur.com/uqXNtk6.jpg <cite>Doe posted [p:886030140] in How did Me... [t:75741858]...</cite> <quote>tfw Ganondorf has negative match-up against Ganondorf on account that you picked Ganondorf</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Delirious_Beard 09/05/17 7:29:01 PM #24:	also https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZVFpRQdOuQ0 --- http://i.imgur.com/5UL2v5u.gif "Does our ruin benefit the earth? Does it help the grass to grow, the sun to shine? Is this darkness in you, too?" <cite>Delirious_Beard posted [p:886087677] in How did Me... [t:75741858]...</cite> <quote>also https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZVFpRQdOuQ0</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
fuzzylittlbunny 09/05/17 7:31:37 PM #25:	What about Ivan Ooze? Who the fuck thought it was a good idea to make an ungrabbable flying dude who can break out of combos literally whenever he damn well wanted? --- ( ^_^)/\(^_^ ) Maya high five! <cite>fuzzylittlbunny posted [p:886087814] in How did Me... [t:75741858]...</cite> <quote>What about Ivan Ooze? Who the fuck thought it was a good idea to make an ungrabbable flying dude who can break out of combos literally whenever he damn well wanted?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GiftedACIII 09/05/17 7:35:52 PM #26:	fuzzylittlbunny posted... What about Ivan Ooze? Who the fuck thought it was a good idea to make an ungrabbable flying dude who can break out of combos literally whenever he damn well wanted? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S1Fqvd1W358 --- </topic> <cite>GiftedACIII posted [p:886088045] in How did Me... [t:75741858]...</cite> <quote><cite>fuzzylittlbunny posted...</cite> <quote>What about Ivan Ooze? Who the fuck thought it was a good idea to make an ungrabbable flying dude who can break out of combos literally whenever he damn well wanted?</quote> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S1Fqvd1W358</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
charey 09/05/17 7:56:53 PM #27:	wah_wah_wah posted... Banjo2553 posted... Zero_Destroyer posted... kuwab0 posted... Was any character a hard counter for him in Brawl? lord no lol he had winning matchups on every character The only even matchup was against himself, IIRC. That would be the case with every character against themselves, obviously Except Snake, the player in the lower port was considered to have advantage because of how port priority worked. --- I won't have it! I'm not having anyone talk about me in the past tense! ~Squall Leonhart <cite>charey posted [p:886089175] in How did Me... [t:75741858]...</cite> <quote><cite>wah_wah_wah posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Banjo2553 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Zero_Destroyer posted...</cite> <quote><cite>kuwab0 posted...</cite> <quote>Was any character a hard counter for him in Brawl?</quote> lord no lol he had winning matchups on every character</quote> The only even matchup was against himself, IIRC.</quote> That would be the case with every character against themselves, obviously</quote>Except Snake, the player in the lower port was considered to have advantage because of how port priority worked.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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