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pojr
09/03/17 9:50:22 PM
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Swords Dance
Seed Bomb
Last Resort


Isn't this set genius? Obviously not a conventional set, special Shaymin is way better, but this one will catch a lot of people off guard.

Why Last Resort? Because Shaymin doesn't get any better physical moves. Obv you would need to use it late game when all the steel types and physically defensive pokemon are gone.

Shaymin can learn Zen Headbutt, but I don't see any benefits to having psychic coverage. Quick attack is an option, but it's better to only have three moves so that you can use Last Resort quicker. Rest is an option, but that doesn't have good synergy with Last Resort.
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MabusIncarnate
09/03/17 9:59:11 PM
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Back_Stabbath
09/03/17 9:59:32 PM
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09/03/17 9:59:42 PM
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MabusIncarnate
09/03/17 10:01:05 PM
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Back_Stabbath
09/03/17 10:01:17 PM
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the_dracolich
09/03/17 10:03:22 PM
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Back_Stabbath posted...
you can how home

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ItsVinceRusso
09/03/17 10:05:42 PM
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the_dracolich posted...
Back_Stabbath posted...
you can how home

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Back_Stabbath
09/03/17 10:09:02 PM
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it's only funny when you quote auto-corrects or types from the OP.
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pojr
09/03/17 10:15:03 PM
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No one plays pokemon :(
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Terra-enforcer
09/03/17 10:33:18 PM
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nerd
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Calwings
09/03/17 10:57:16 PM
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Purely physical Shaymin is a really terrible idea because Grass/Normal is awful type coverage, and Shaymin doesn't get anything better. The best you might be able to pull off is throwing a surprise physical attack on a mixed attacking Shaymin using Growth, since it raised both Attack and SpAtk starting in gen 5...

Growth
Seed Flare
Earth Power OR Dazzling Gleam
Return OR Quick Attack OR Last Resort

If boosted by Growth and a Life Orb, Return or Last Resort could put a big dent in some special walls like Blissey that would otherwise stop Shaymin in its tracks, while Quick Attack could catch a faster revenge killer like Weavile or Infernape off guard and do a lot of damage.
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Solar_Crimson
09/03/17 10:58:07 PM
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GiftedACIII
09/03/17 10:59:49 PM
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Solarbeam Darmanitan. New meta
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averagejoel
09/03/17 11:07:26 PM
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catching people off guard is not worth losing out on Seed Flare and being unable to use Earth Power on Heatran
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pojr
09/03/17 11:13:16 PM
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averagejoel posted...
catching people off guard is not worth losing out on Seed Flare and being unable to use Earth Power on Heatran

It could work if you're playing league format and you know the opponent doesn't have Heatran.
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pojr
09/03/17 11:15:12 PM
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Calwings posted...
Purely physical Shaymin is a really terrible idea because Grass/Normal is awful type coverage, and Shaymin doesn't get anything better. The best you might be able to pull off is throwing a surprise physical attack on a mixed attacking Shaymin using Growth, since it raised both Attack and SpAtk starting in gen 5...

Growth
Seed Flare
Earth Power OR Dazzling Gleam
Return OR Quick Attack OR Last Resort

If boosted by Growth and a Life Orb, Return or Last Resort could put a big dent in some special walls like Blissey that would otherwise stop Shaymin in its tracks, while Quick Attack could catch a faster revenge killer like Weavile or Infernape off guard and do a lot of damage.

You might not even need Growth. You could just run Swords Dance and rely on the special defense drops to "boost" your special moves
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Calwings
09/04/17 12:36:49 AM
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pojr posted...
Calwings posted...
Purely physical Shaymin is a really terrible idea because Grass/Normal is awful type coverage, and Shaymin doesn't get anything better. The best you might be able to pull off is throwing a surprise physical attack on a mixed attacking Shaymin using Growth, since it raised both Attack and SpAtk starting in gen 5...

Growth
Seed Flare
Earth Power OR Dazzling Gleam
Return OR Quick Attack OR Last Resort

If boosted by Growth and a Life Orb, Return or Last Resort could put a big dent in some special walls like Blissey that would otherwise stop Shaymin in its tracks, while Quick Attack could catch a faster revenge killer like Weavile or Infernape off guard and do a lot of damage.

You might not even need Growth. You could just run Swords Dance and rely on the special defense drops to "boost" your special moves

But the whole point is that Growth raises both attacking stats and still makes you opponent think you're running a purely special set. That way they get caught off guard by the physical move doing a ton of damage to their special wall or revenge attacker.
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pojr
09/04/17 5:50:24 AM
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Calwings posted...
pojr posted...
Calwings posted...
Purely physical Shaymin is a really terrible idea because Grass/Normal is awful type coverage, and Shaymin doesn't get anything better. The best you might be able to pull off is throwing a surprise physical attack on a mixed attacking Shaymin using Growth, since it raised both Attack and SpAtk starting in gen 5...

Growth
Seed Flare
Earth Power OR Dazzling Gleam
Return OR Quick Attack OR Last Resort

If boosted by Growth and a Life Orb, Return or Last Resort could put a big dent in some special walls like Blissey that would otherwise stop Shaymin in its tracks, while Quick Attack could catch a faster revenge killer like Weavile or Infernape off guard and do a lot of damage.

You might not even need Growth. You could just run Swords Dance and rely on the special defense drops to "boost" your special moves

But the whole point is that Growth raises both attacking stats and still makes you opponent think you're running a purely special set. That way they get caught off guard by the physical move doing a ton of damage to their special wall or revenge attacker.

But the opponent will immediately know that when it doesn't go for Calm Mind

But wait, Shaymin doesn't get Calm Mind,

Ok that could work then.
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