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Hexenherz
09/03/17 2:42:47 AM
#51:


Duncanwii posted...
Guys it doesn't matter. We can't first strike without getting nuked by China so who cares we're screwed either way.


China doesn't care about North Korea.
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MuayThai85
09/03/17 2:44:07 AM
#52:


Duncanwii posted...
Guys it doesn't matter. We can't first strike without getting nuked by China so who cares we're screwed either way.


China is sick of NK's shit and would likely sit out of any confrontation that NK instigates.
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Zikten
09/03/17 2:44:07 AM
#53:


antifa being the good guys is like if Cell and Frieza fought in DBZ, and you tried to say one was good. they both are evil. Antifa needs to be wiped out
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The_Donald
09/03/17 2:44:40 AM
#54:


https://twitter.com/ArmsControlWonk/status/904191987405819904

Information on the size of the quake and potential yield of the bomb

6.1 on the Richter scale compared to a 5.2 last time.

If it did register 6.1 that should put it at the megaton yield range.

This is what the are it would destroy if used over Seoul along with projected fatalities.

http://imgur.com/a/n3grz#JcnMMpD
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Duncanwii
09/03/17 2:44:53 AM
#55:


Hexenherz posted...
Duncanwii posted...
Guys it doesn't matter. We can't first strike without getting nuked by China so who cares we're screwed either way.


China doesn't care about North Korea.

Maybe not, but there already said if we strike first they'll join North Korea's side.
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lilJoe457
09/03/17 2:47:57 AM
#56:


I'm basically an isolationist but they're a legit threat now so idk what to do. Send in a team to assassinate him with a bomb on hold just in case?

Even then it doesn't sit right with me killing innocent North Koreans. I know their leader is a piece of shit. But shit we had bush and Obama and if Trump continues these pointless wars, we have him too.

They need to exhaust every possibility. Though it seems unlikely with how Kim Jong is.
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gunplagirl
09/03/17 3:49:26 AM
#57:


Vertania posted...
MuayThai85 posted...
Holy fuck you're delusional. Anyone who calls Antifa the "good guys" should be ignored by everyone.

The police uphold the law, even if it is unjust. They protect armed Nazis calling for murder. They can't be trusted. So it falls to others to actually protect us. Better than saying nazis have to break the law first, meaning only after they start a genocide.
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The_Donald
09/03/17 3:50:40 AM
#58:


gunplagirl posted...
The police uphold the law, even if it is unjust. They protect armed Nazis calling for murder. They can't be trusted. So it falls to others to actually protect us. Better than saying nazis have to break the law first, meaning only after they start a genocide.

ANTIFA "protecting" us.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zuTyBLtlbd0

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Kingbuffet
09/03/17 3:51:48 AM
#59:


Even Russia and China has warned the United States to not provoke North Korea. China could fuck the U.S. with just economic warfare.
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Zikten
09/03/17 3:56:16 AM
#60:


gunplagirl posted...
Vertania posted...
MuayThai85 posted...
Holy fuck you're delusional. Anyone who calls Antifa the "good guys" should be ignored by everyone.

The police uphold the law, even if it is unjust. They protect armed Nazis calling for murder. They can't be trusted. So it falls to others to actually protect us. Better than saying nazis have to break the law first, meaning only after they start a genocide.

a genocide can't happen in america. our government is set up differently than 30's Germany was. calm the hell down. modern nazis and kkk are powerless. your fears are unjustified
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gunplagirl
09/03/17 3:58:27 AM
#61:


The_Donald posted...
gunplagirl posted...
The police uphold the law, even if it is unjust. They protect armed Nazis calling for murder. They can't be trusted. So it falls to others to actually protect us. Better than saying nazis have to break the law first, meaning only after they start a genocide.

ANTIFA "protecting" us.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zuTyBLtlbd0


This is not even close to assault. Try harder
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The_Donald
09/03/17 4:00:52 AM
#62:


gunplagirl posted...
The_Donald posted...
gunplagirl posted...
The police uphold the law, even if it is unjust. They protect armed Nazis calling for murder. They can't be trusted. So it falls to others to actually protect us. Better than saying nazis have to break the law first, meaning only after they start a genocide.

ANTIFA "protecting" us.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zuTyBLtlbd0


This is not even close to assault. Try harder

It's not close to "protecting" either.
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Zikten
09/03/17 4:01:28 AM
#63:


gunplagirl is like the biggest antifa knight on this board I think
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gunplagirl
09/03/17 4:01:45 AM
#64:


Zikten posted...
gunplagirl posted...
Vertania posted...
MuayThai85 posted...
Holy fuck you're delusional. Anyone who calls Antifa the "good guys" should be ignored by everyone.

The police uphold the law, even if it is unjust. They protect armed Nazis calling for murder. They can't be trusted. So it falls to others to actually protect us. Better than saying nazis have to break the law first, meaning only after they start a genocide.

a genocide can't happen in america. our government is set up differently than 30's Germany was. calm the hell down. modern nazis and kkk are powerless. your fears are unjustified

America was built on the genocide of natives
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gunplagirl
09/03/17 4:03:51 AM
#65:


The_Donald posted...
gunplagirl posted...
The_Donald posted...
gunplagirl posted...
The police uphold the law, even if it is unjust. They protect armed Nazis calling for murder. They can't be trusted. So it falls to others to actually protect us. Better than saying nazis have to break the law first, meaning only after they start a genocide.

ANTIFA "protecting" us.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zuTyBLtlbd0


This is not even close to assault. Try harder

It's not close to "protecting" either.


And the video is so short and bad at picking up what they were saying beforehand or during. So literally you have to fill in context as there's none there to even be picked up on.
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The_Donald
09/03/17 4:05:25 AM
#66:


gunplagirl posted...
The_Donald posted...
gunplagirl posted...
The_Donald posted...
gunplagirl posted...
The police uphold the law, even if it is unjust. They protect armed Nazis calling for murder. They can't be trusted. So it falls to others to actually protect us. Better than saying nazis have to break the law first, meaning only after they start a genocide.

ANTIFA "protecting" us.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zuTyBLtlbd0


This is not even close to assault. Try harder

It's not close to "protecting" either.


And the video is so short and bad at picking up what they were saying beforehand or during. So literally you have to fill in context as there's none there to even be picked up on.

The big scary disabled vet thank god ANTIFA were there to protect the public from him by assualting him with water.
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gunplagirl
09/03/17 4:06:47 AM
#67:


Zikten posted...
gunplagirl is like the biggest antifa knight on this board I think

To quote every white person on police ever, "you should just comply. If you've done nothing wrong you have to fear." Except replace it with antifa. You should only be afraid if you're fascist or racist scum.
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gunplagirl
09/03/17 4:10:21 AM
#68:


The_Donald posted...
gunplagirl posted...
The_Donald posted...
gunplagirl posted...
The_Donald posted...
gunplagirl posted...
The police uphold the law, even if it is unjust. They protect armed Nazis calling for murder. They can't be trusted. So it falls to others to actually protect us. Better than saying nazis have to break the law first, meaning only after they start a genocide.

ANTIFA "protecting" us.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zuTyBLtlbd0


This is not even close to assault. Try harder

It's not close to "protecting" either.


And the video is so short and bad at picking up what they were saying beforehand or during. So literally you have to fill in context as there's none there to even be picked up on.

The big scary disabled vet thank god ANTIFA were there to protect the public from him by assualting him with water.


So you can't actually prove what led up to this. Explains your gimmick username
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Zikten
09/03/17 4:10:58 AM
#69:


gunplagirl posted...
Zikten posted...
gunplagirl is like the biggest antifa knight on this board I think

To quote every white person on police ever, "you should just comply. If you've done nothing wrong you have to fear." Except replace it with antifa. You should only be afraid if you're fascist or racisracist scum.

antifa has proven they will attack anyone. they call all people racist with no proof. and they have attacked people who turned out to be innocent. fuck them. And like 90% of them at least seem to be dumbass college kids. their insane and think they are fighting some evil empire. they need to be stopped. they are worse than the enemy they are fighting
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Life Sympathy
09/03/17 4:12:17 AM
#70:


gunplagirl posted...
The police uphold the law, even if it is unjust. They protect armed Nazis calling for murder. They can't be trusted. So it falls to others to actually protect us. Better than saying nazis have to break the law first, meaning only after they start a genocide.

How about we as a society lock up both the Nazis and Antifa? Both groups are nothing but a burden on society that we can do without.

But we both know that you don't actually care for problem resolution.
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The_Donald
09/03/17 4:12:20 AM
#71:


gunplagirl posted...
So you can't actually prove what led up to this.

You made the assertion they "protect." This video proves otherwise.
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thompsontalker7
09/03/17 4:17:17 AM
#72:


Alucard188 posted...
They'd been building and researching nuclear tech well before the Trump administration. Trump is the worst possible person to have involved in this nuclear showdown at the O.K. Corral, but I don't think it's a far stretch to believe that we'd be in the same relative situation regardless of who was the POTUS.


Pretty much. Anyone who acts like Hillary would've changed this is shortsighted.
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gunplagirl
09/03/17 4:19:08 AM
#73:


The_Donald posted...
gunplagirl posted...
So you can't actually prove what led up to this.

You made the assertion they "protect." This video proves otherwise.

Prove the guy in a wheelchair was innocent. Give me the full context of the vid or your attempt at this is moot
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The_Donald
09/03/17 4:22:25 AM
#74:


gunplagirl posted...
The_Donald posted...
gunplagirl posted...
So you can't actually prove what led up to this.

You made the assertion they "protect." This video proves otherwise.

Prove the guy in a wheelchair was innocent. Give me the full context of the vid or your attempt at this is moot

Innocent until proven guilty. I'll wait for your proof he isn't innocent since you're making the assumption of guilt.
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gunplagirl
09/03/17 4:23:09 AM
#75:


Life Sympathy posted...
gunplagirl posted...
The police uphold the law, even if it is unjust. They protect armed Nazis calling for murder. They can't be trusted. So it falls to others to actually protect us. Better than saying nazis have to break the law first, meaning only after they start a genocide.

How about we as a society lock up both the Nazis and Antifa? Both groups are nothing but a burden on society that we can do without.

But we both know that you don't actually care for problem resolution.


The only reason antifa exists is to challenge fascism and racism. Get rid of racists and fascists. Ban Nazism like germany and arrest any who heil or have a flag. But you'll cry free speech.

I've got a photo collection of 1940s antifa storming the beaches of normandy. But clearly both sides are just as bad in your eyes.
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ArchiePeck
09/03/17 4:28:03 AM
#76:


MuayThai85 posted...
NOM posted...
lol why do you goobies fear NK and their busted ass rusty as fuck nukes? They know if they actually fired at something/somewhere that matters they'd get blown off the fucking map.

This is a non issue.


Yea, they'll get blown off the map but that doesn't help the potential millions of Japanese or South Koreans killed by the nuke in the first place. If they hit Tokyo or Seoul, it'll likely be the largest loss of life from a single attack in human history.


Or 160,000 US citizens in Guam...
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gunplagirl
09/03/17 4:28:50 AM
#77:


The_Donald posted...
gunplagirl posted...
The_Donald posted...
gunplagirl posted...
So you can't actually prove what led up to this.

You made the assertion they "protect." This video proves otherwise.

Prove the guy in a wheelchair was innocent. Give me the full context of the vid or your attempt at this is moot

Innocent until proven guilty. I'll wait for your proof he isn't innocent since you're making the assumption of guilt.


I am requesting evidence to support your claim he was assaulted. Meaning the events preceding this are mandatory to verify your claim. until you provide that I can't make a decision.

And innocent till proven guilty only applies to law. But without context, by this argument, we have to assume the "antifa" is also innocent as you can't prove motive, a necessary component of guilt.
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Bat178
09/03/17 4:29:32 AM
#78:


thompsontalker7 posted...
Alucard188 posted...
They'd been building and researching nuclear tech well before the Trump administration. Trump is the worst possible person to have involved in this nuclear showdown at the O.K. Corral, but I don't think it's a far stretch to believe that we'd be in the same relative situation regardless of who was the POTUS.


Pretty much. Anyone who acts like Hillary would've changed this is shortsighted.

She at least wouldn't have provoked them further and is smart enough not use nukes...
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Zikten
09/03/17 4:34:25 AM
#79:


gunplagirl posted...
But without context, by this argument, we have to assume the "antifa" is also innocent as you can't prove motive, a necessary component of guilt.

what could the man in the wheelchair have done? nothing, that's what. all I see in the video is a bunch of bullies attacking a disabled unarmed man. and to address something else you said, damn right I will cry free speech. free speech is one of the most important things about America. putting people in prison just for saying heil hitler, or owning a nazi flag is wrong. yes, I said it. I will always oppose imprisoning people just for words. the reason germany does what it does is cause of their unique past and a fear of it happening again. but I will never believe that it can even be possible to happen in america. we have a different society and rules. the situation is different. and I will not throw away free speech just on some far fetched fear.
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Life Sympathy
09/03/17 4:37:54 AM
#80:


gunplagirl posted...
The only reason antifa exists is to challenge fascism and racism. Get rid of racists and fascists. Ban Nazism like germany and arrest any who heil or have a flag. But you'll cry free speech.I've got a photo collection of 1940s antifa storming the beaches of normandy. But clearly both sides are just as bad in your eyes.


I am of the judicial branch. Both sides are guilty in the eyes of the law.
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gunplagirl
09/03/17 4:40:02 AM
#81:


Life Sympathy posted...
gunplagirl posted...
The only reason antifa exists is to challenge fascism and racism. Get rid of racists and fascists. Ban Nazism like germany and arrest any who heil or have a flag. But you'll cry free speech.I've got a photo collection of 1940s antifa storming the beaches of normandy. But clearly both sides are just as bad in your eyes.


I am of the judicial branch. Both sides are guilty in the eyes of the law.

Judges can be bought. And are. Frequently. And the law will always be slow to condemn racism, it's considered status quo.
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gunplagirl
09/03/17 4:45:23 AM
#82:


Zikten posted...
gunplagirl posted...
But without context, by this argument, we have to assume the "antifa" is also innocent as you can't prove motive, a necessary component of guilt.

what could the man in the wheelchair have done? nothing, that's what. all I see in the video is a bunch of bullies attacking a disabled unarmed man. and to address something else you said, damn right I will cry free speech. free speech is one of the most important things about America. putting people in prison just for saying heil hitler, or owning a nazi flag is wrong. yes, I said it. I will always oppose imprisoning people just for words. the reason germany does what it does is cause of their unique past and a fear of it happening again. but I will never believe that it can even be possible to happen in america. we have a different society and rules. the situation is different. and I will not throw away free speech just on some far fetched fear.

Advocating for genocide that Nazis have done before is a threat. All threats on lives must be taken seriously. Especially from groups with predecessors who have actually committed genocide. It's not free speech unless you think genocide is an acceptable view.
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Life Sympathy
09/03/17 4:48:20 AM
#83:


Justifying your guilt is all society needs to know to not entrust you with society. There is no guarantee you won't do the same for your own ends (and the risk factor is far greater with you).
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gunplagirl
09/03/17 4:50:34 AM
#84:


Life Sympathy posted...
Justifying your guilt is all society needs to know to not entrust you with society. There is no guarantee you won't do the same for your own ends (and the risk factor is far greater with you).

If you believe laws are just, you're naive at best
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The_Donald
09/03/17 4:54:09 AM
#85:


gunplagirl posted...
I am requesting evidence to support your claim he was assaulted.

The video shows them assaulting the man.

gunplagirl posted...
Meaning the events preceding this are mandatory to verify your claim.

No they aren't, the assault was caught on camera what happened before is irrelevant.

gunplagirl posted...
we have to assume the "antifa" is also innocent as you can't prove motive, a necessary component of guilt.

We don't assume their guilty as proof of the assault is captured on video and proves their guilt. Motive is irrelevant.
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gunplagirl
09/03/17 4:56:44 AM
#86:


The_Donald posted...
gunplagirl posted...
I am requesting evidence to support your claim he was assaulted.

The video shows them assaulting the man.

gunplagirl posted...
Meaning the events preceding this are mandatory to verify your claim.

No they aren't, the assault was caught on camera what happened before is irrelevant.

gunplagirl posted...
we have to assume the "antifa" is also innocent as you can't prove motive, a necessary component of guilt.

We don't assume their guilty as proof of the assault is captured on video and proves their guilt. Motive is irrelevant.

Yes, the circumstances matter. And yes, motive matters. This is like, remedial high school level law classes.
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The_Donald
09/03/17 4:59:44 AM
#87:


gunplagirl posted...
Yes, the circumstances matter. And yes, motive matters. This is like, remedial high school level law classes.

Mens rea is evident in the video. What took place before is irrelevant.

Try taking a college class it will build upon your high school level understanding.
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Vertania
09/03/17 5:08:50 AM
#88:


gunplagirl posted...
Judges can be bought. And are. Frequently.

>"guy caught on video assaulting someone didn't assault someone"
>"judges are bought off all the time. i don't have any examples, but i saw it in tv shows so it's true"

Vertania posted...
MuayThai85 posted...
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gunplagirl
09/03/17 5:09:33 AM
#89:


The_Donald posted...
gunplagirl posted...
Yes, the circumstances matter. And yes, motive matters. This is like, remedial high school level law classes.

Mens rea is evident in the video. What took place before is irrelevant.

Try taking a college class it will build upon your high school level understanding.


In criminal law, intent is one of three general classes of mens rea necessary to constitute a conventional, as opposed to strict liability, crime. A more formal, generally synonymous legal term is scienter: intent or knowledge of wrongdoing.

Without the preceding events to establish the context, you can't prove it was not out of some form of self defense. You are just taking a minute and ignoring everything that led to this part of the altercation. Why were they arguing? That must be established.
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The_Donald
09/03/17 5:12:57 AM
#90:


gunplagirl posted...
Without the preceding events to establish the context, you can't prove it was not out of some form of self defense.

The man was in no immediate danger, the video proves the assaulter was in no immediate danger and was not acting in self defense.

It was cute how you backpedaled from intent to self defense though.

+1 for trying.
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Vertania
09/03/17 5:13:09 AM
#91:


gunplagirl posted...
Without the preceding events to establish the context, you can't prove it was not out of some form of self defense.

L
M
F
A
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Self defense... Against an old man in a wheelchair... By approaching him and throwing water on him...

You know how you defend yourself in that situation? Take literally three steps backwards. Walk into the crowd if you need to; he won't be able to chase you down.
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gunplagirl
09/03/17 5:15:29 AM
#92:


Vertania posted...
gunplagirl posted...
Judges can be bought. And are. Frequently.

>"guy caught on video assaulting someone didn't assault someone"
>"judges are bought off all the time. i don't have any examples, but i saw it in tv shows so it's true"

Vertania posted...
MuayThai85 posted...
Holy fuck you're delusional.

I never said they didn't assault them. I need more context and it never gets provided. As for judges being bought off
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kids_for_cash_scandal

Is probably the biggest one recently
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The_Donald
09/03/17 5:19:55 AM
#93:


gunplagirl posted...
I never said they didn't assault them.


gunplagirl posted...
The_Donald posted...
gunplagirl posted...
The police uphold the law, even if it is unjust. They protect armed Nazis calling for murder. They can't be trusted. So it falls to others to actually protect us. Better than saying nazis have to break the law first, meaning only after they start a genocide.

ANTIFA "protecting" us.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zuTyBLtlbd0


This is not even close to assault. Try harder

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gunplagirl
09/03/17 5:25:03 AM
#94:


It's not backpedaling to theorize and expand upon what might be the case, as you refuse to provide context.

Hey Mr prosecution, withholding evidence from the defense is a crime. Fork over everything or you're guilty.
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gunplagirl
09/03/17 5:26:39 AM
#95:


The_Donald posted...
gunplagirl posted...
I never said they didn't assault them.


gunplagirl posted...
The_Donald posted...
gunplagirl posted...
The police uphold the law, even if it is unjust. They protect armed Nazis calling for murder. They can't be trusted. So it falls to others to actually protect us. Better than saying nazis have to break the law first, meaning only after they start a genocide.

ANTIFA "protecting" us.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zuTyBLtlbd0


This is not even close to assault. Try harder


And you haven't met all necessary steps to prove its assault. Mens rea.
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gunplagirl
09/03/17 5:29:50 AM
#96:


Vertania posted...
gunplagirl posted...
Without the preceding events to establish the context, you can't prove it was not out of some form of self defense.

L
M
F
A
O

Self defense... Against an old man in a wheelchair... By approaching him and throwing water on him...

You know how you defend yourself in that situation? Take literally three steps backwards. Walk into the crowd if you need to; he won't be able to chase you down.


Lawfully though? Not really relevant.
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The_Donald
09/03/17 5:35:12 AM
#97:


gunplagirl posted...
And you haven't met all necessary steps to prove its assault. Mens rea.

All four elements encompassing the crime of assault are presented in the video.
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The_Donald
09/03/17 5:36:46 AM
#98:


Here's another video of ANTIFA "protecting" the public as you claim.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0H27Ul9ZsHk&t=45s
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gunplagirl
09/03/17 5:41:42 AM
#99:


The_Donald posted...
gunplagirl posted...
And you haven't met all necessary steps to prove its assault. Mens rea.

All four elements encompassing the crime of assault are presented in the video.

So you don't have any video with clearer audio or that shows the preceding events
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The_Donald
09/03/17 5:46:01 AM
#100:


gunplagirl posted...
So you don't have any video with clearer audio or that shows the preceding events

I don't need it when this video proves beyond a reasonable doubt an assault.
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