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Frolex 09/03/17 12:25:38 AM #1:	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bg-Mh0xFRF8 lol AAA game development in 2017 everyone --- http://i.imgur.com/HOLHd4k.gif http://i.imgur.com/six2WTN.gif <cite>Frolex posted [p:885929625] in Bethesda's... [t:75736149]...</cite> <quote> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bg-Mh0xFRF8 lol AAA game development in 2017 everyone</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Delirious_Beard 09/03/17 12:29:36 AM #2:	what a predictable disaster --- http://i.imgur.com/5UL2v5u.gif "Does our ruin benefit the earth? Does it help the grass to grow, the sun to shine? Is this darkness in you, too?" <cite>Delirious_Beard posted [p:885929782] in Bethesda's... [t:75736149]...</cite> <quote>what a predictable disaster</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Webmaster4531 09/03/17 12:32:23 AM #3:	This is what you get for liking shitrim. Enjoy. --- Ad Hominem. <cite>Webmaster4531 posted [p:885929881] in Bethesda's... [t:75736149]...</cite> <quote>This is what you get for liking shitrim. Enjoy.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Irony 09/03/17 12:32:50 AM #4:	I immediately turned off automatic downloads. I really hope Sony punches Bethesda in the face. --- I am Mogar, God of Irony and The Devourer of Topics. http://i.imgtc.com/tHc3mIo.png http://i.imgtc.com/PYxw8Lm.png <cite>Irony posted [p:885929893] in Bethesda's... [t:75736149]...</cite> <quote>I immediately turned off automatic downloads. I really hope Sony punches Bethesda in the face.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BootyGif 09/03/17 12:33:49 AM #5:	Nmm has everything --- https://i.imgtc.com/4s4wNqG.png <cite>BootyGif posted [p:885929932] in Bethesda's... [t:75736149]...</cite> <quote>Nmm has everything</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pegusus123456 09/03/17 12:35:12 AM #6:	tl;dw Creation Club downloads the content for every paid mod available, even if you don't plan on buying them. You still can't use them, you still have to buy them and get the plug-in. --- http://i.imgur.com/Er6TT.gif http://i.imgur.com/Er6TT.gif http://i.imgur.com/Er6TT.gif http://i.imgur.com/Er6TT.gif <cite>pegusus123456 posted [p:885929992] in Bethesda's... [t:75736149]...</cite> <quote>tl;dw Creation Club downloads the content for every paid mod available, even if you don't plan on buying them. You still can't use them, you still have to buy them and get the plug-in.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Smashingpmkns 09/03/17 12:39:25 AM #7:	pegusus123456 posted... tl;dw Creation Club downloads the content for every paid mod available, even if you don't plan on buying them. You still can't use them, you still have to buy them and get the plug-in. Lol so you're literally buying keys? --- Posted with GameRaven 3.2.2 <cite>Smashingpmkns posted [p:885930166] in Bethesda's... [t:75736149]...</cite> <quote><cite>pegusus123456 posted...</cite> <quote>tl;dw Creation Club downloads the content for every paid mod available, even if you don't plan on buying them. You still can't use them, you still have to buy them and get the plug-in.</quote> Lol so you're literally buying keys?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UrCa1988 09/03/17 12:42:03 AM #8:	Smashingpmkns posted... pegusus123456 posted... tl;dw Creation Club downloads the content for every paid mod available, even if you don't plan on buying them. You still can't use them, you still have to buy them and get the plug-in. Lol so you're literally buying keys? Yup. 700MB of worthless data shoved into your hard drive that does nothing until you pay for it. --- "Sometimes, all the stupidity in the world is boiled down to one single product that you can buy at Home Depot." <cite>UrCa1988 posted [p:885930248] in Bethesda's... [t:75736149]...</cite> <quote><cite>Smashingpmkns posted...</cite> <quote><cite>pegusus123456 posted...</cite> <quote>tl;dw Creation Club downloads the content for every paid mod available, even if you don't plan on buying them. You still can't use them, you still have to buy them and get the plug-in.</quote> Lol so you're literally buying keys?</quote> Yup. 700MB of worthless data shoved into your hard drive that does nothing until you pay for it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AsucaHayashi 09/03/17 12:42:25 AM #9:	pegusus123456 posted... tl;dw Creation Club downloads the content for every paid mod available, even if you don't plan on buying them. You still can't use them, you still have to buy them and get the plug-in. lol so it's data you're forced to keep as part of the game even if you never access it and you only buy unlocks. xd what a disaster --- Not being able to land shoryuken consistently on one method of input as opposed to another is a matter of preference - zedzilla http://i.imgur.com/9Yv0R2Z.jpg <cite>AsucaHayashi posted [p:885930261] in Bethesda's... [t:75736149]...</cite> <quote><cite>pegusus123456 posted...</cite> <quote>tl;dw Creation Club downloads the content for every paid mod available, even if you don't plan on buying them. You still can't use them, you still have to buy them and get the plug-in.</quote> lol so it's data you're forced to keep as part of the game even if you never access it and you only buy unlocks. xd what a disaster</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnholyMudcrab 09/03/17 12:44:22 AM #10:	Who could possibly have foreseen this going terribly wrong --- http://i.imgur.com/VeNBg.gif http://i.imgur.com/gd5jC8q.gif http://i.imgur.com/PKIy7.gif http://i.imgur.com/3p29JqP.gif <cite>UnholyMudcrab posted [p:885930337] in Bethesda's... [t:75736149]...</cite> <quote>Who could possibly have foreseen this going terribly wrong</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
1337toothbrush 09/03/17 12:54:48 AM #11:	This is the next level of the bullshit known as paid DLC. Now the company doesn't even shit out effortless microtransactions, they have their consumers do it for them and then they make even more money off of that. --- :D https://imgur.com/a/FU9H8 <cite>1337toothbrush posted [p:885930758] in Bethesda's... [t:75736149]...</cite> <quote>This is the next level of the bullshit known as paid DLC. Now the company doesn't even shit out effortless microtransactions, they have their consumers do it for them and then they make even more money off of that.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
apolloooo 09/03/17 12:56:05 AM #12:	Webmaster4531 posted... This is what you get for liking shitrim. Enjoy. --- http://i.imgtc.com/iJyp6bF.png http://i.imgtc.com/ZBw36Qh.png Thanks for the peeps that made the pics <3 if i make typos it means i am on phone <cite>apolloooo posted [p:885930813] in Bethesda's... [t:75736149]...</cite> <quote><cite>Webmaster4531 posted...</cite> <quote>This is what you get for liking shitrim. Enjoy.</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Esrac 09/03/17 1:04:26 AM #13:	No one likes their paid mods bullshiy last time. No one likes it this time. --- http://steamcommunity.com/id/Esrac <cite>Esrac posted [p:885931125] in Bethesda's... [t:75736149]...</cite> <quote>No one likes their paid mods bullshiy last time. No one likes it this time.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
1337toothbrush 09/03/17 1:12:02 AM #14:	Esrac posted... No one likes their paid mods bullshiy last time. No one likes it this time. They'll keep trying until it gets accepted. I wouldn't be surprised if they try barring free mods (thus requiring a price being set) just like how Microsoft forbade companies from releasing free DLC, thus creating this bullshit mess in the first place. --- :D https://imgur.com/a/FU9H8 <cite>1337toothbrush posted [p:885931363] in Bethesda's... [t:75736149]...</cite> <quote><cite>Esrac posted...</cite> <quote>No one likes their paid mods bullshiy last time. No one likes it this time.</quote> They'll keep trying until it gets accepted. I wouldn't be surprised if they try barring free mods (thus requiring a price being set) just like how Microsoft forbade companies from releasing free DLC, thus creating this bullshit mess in the first place.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sexypwnstar 09/03/17 1:40:35 AM #15:	Bethesda is going to make so much bank --- http://i.imgur.com/Su4g5.jpg http://i.imgur.com/21DiJ.jpg <cite>Sexypwnstar posted [p:885932251] in Bethesda's... [t:75736149]...</cite> <quote>Bethesda is going to make so much bank</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tmaster148 09/03/17 1:43:19 AM #16:	1337toothbrush posted... Esrac posted... No one likes their paid mods bullshiy last time. No one likes it this time. They'll keep trying until it gets accepted. I wouldn't be surprised if they try barring free mods (thus requiring a price being set) just like how Microsoft forbade companies from releasing free DLC, thus creating this bullshit mess in the first place. I think the problem is really just Bethesda's methods. First time was a disaster since there was 0 control and people could literally steal other people mods and sell them or put up crap and sell it. Not to mention the take Valve and Bethesda were getting that made it rather pointless for people putting the work in to go through that channel. Now we have an issue that a game is downloading content you aren't even using. There's probably a way to do paid mods right, I just don't think it's ever going to be from anything a developer tries. --- http://i.imgur.com/BBcZDLJ.png <cite>Tmaster148 posted [p:885932338] in Bethesda's... [t:75736149]...</cite> <quote><cite>1337toothbrush posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Esrac posted...</cite> <quote>No one likes their paid mods bullshiy last time. No one likes it this time.</quote> They'll keep trying until it gets accepted. I wouldn't be surprised if they try barring free mods (thus requiring a price being set) just like how Microsoft forbade companies from releasing free DLC, thus creating this bullshit mess in the first place.</quote> I think the problem is really just Bethesda's methods. First time was a disaster since there was 0 control and people could literally steal other people mods and sell them or put up crap and sell it. Not to mention the take Valve and Bethesda were getting that made it rather pointless for people putting the work in to go through that channel. Now we have an issue that a game is downloading content you aren't even using. There's probably a way to do paid mods right, I just don't think it's ever going to be from anything a developer tries.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sexypwnstar 09/03/17 1:48:41 AM #17:	No, the issue isn't just the game downloading content you aren't using. It's the whole concept of micro-transactions where you have to buy premium currency at designated price packages along with unoriginal content being put in the store that was already available for free. --- http://i.imgur.com/Su4g5.jpg http://i.imgur.com/21DiJ.jpg <cite>Sexypwnstar posted [p:885932500] in Bethesda's... [t:75736149]...</cite> <quote>No, the issue isn't just the game downloading content you aren't using. It's the whole concept of micro-transactions where you have to buy premium currency at designated price packages along with unoriginal content being put in the store that was already available for free.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tmaster148 09/03/17 1:50:23 AM #18:	Sexypwnstar posted... No, the issue isn't just the game downloading content you aren't using. It's the whole concept of micro-transactions where you have to buy premium currency at designated price packages along with unoriginal content being put in the store that was already available for free. I was just basing off what little I read from this topic. Since I expect this will blow up again and Bestheda will get forced into removing it like last time. --- http://i.imgur.com/BBcZDLJ.png <cite>Tmaster148 posted [p:885932545] in Bethesda's... [t:75736149]...</cite> <quote><cite>Sexypwnstar posted...</cite> <quote>No, the issue isn't just the game downloading content you aren't using. It's the whole concept of micro-transactions where you have to buy premium currency at designated price packages along with unoriginal content being put in the store that was already available for free.</quote> I was just basing off what little I read from this topic. Since I expect this will blow up again and Bestheda will get forced into removing it like last time.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
josifrees 09/03/17 1:50:26 AM #19:	Battlefield does the same thing --- <\|={D <cite>josifrees posted [p:885932548] in Bethesda's... [t:75736149]...</cite> <quote>Battlefield does the same thing</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Hexenherz 09/03/17 1:50:43 AM #20:	1337toothbrush posted... Esrac posted... No one likes their paid mods bullshiy last time. No one likes it this time. They'll keep trying until it gets accepted. I wouldn't be surprised if they try barring free mods (thus requiring a price being set) just like how Microsoft forbade companies from releasing free DLC, thus creating this bullshit mess in the first place. No one would buy their games if mods weren't involved. <cite>Hexenherz posted [p:885932561] in Bethesda's... [t:75736149]...</cite> <quote><cite>1337toothbrush posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Esrac posted...</cite> <quote>No one likes their paid mods bullshiy last time. No one likes it this time.</quote> They'll keep trying until it gets accepted. I wouldn't be surprised if they try barring free mods (thus requiring a price being set) just like how Microsoft forbade companies from releasing free DLC, thus creating this bullshit mess in the first place.</quote> No one would buy their games if mods weren't involved.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Esrac 09/03/17 2:08:12 AM #21:	Tmaster148 posted... 1337toothbrush posted... Esrac posted... No one likes their paid mods bullshiy last time. No one likes it this time. They'll keep trying until it gets accepted. I wouldn't be surprised if they try barring free mods (thus requiring a price being set) just like how Microsoft forbade companies from releasing free DLC, thus creating this bullshit mess in the first place. I think the problem is really just Bethesda's methods. First time was a disaster since there was 0 control and people could literally steal other people mods and sell them or put up crap and sell it. Not to mention the take Valve and Bethesda were getting that made it rather pointless for people putting the work in to go through that channel. Now we have an issue that a game is downloading content you aren't even using. There's probably a way to do paid mods right, I just don't think it's ever going to be from anything a developer tries. I disagree. PC gamers have been enjoying free mods for ages. They're not going to suddenly be okay with having to pay for them. --- http://steamcommunity.com/id/Esrac <cite>Esrac posted [p:885933068] in Bethesda's... [t:75736149]...</cite> <quote><cite>Tmaster148 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>1337toothbrush posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Esrac posted...</cite> <quote>No one likes their paid mods bullshiy last time. No one likes it this time.</quote> They'll keep trying until it gets accepted. I wouldn't be surprised if they try barring free mods (thus requiring a price being set) just like how Microsoft forbade companies from releasing free DLC, thus creating this bullshit mess in the first place.</quote> I think the problem is really just Bethesda's methods. First time was a disaster since there was 0 control and people could literally steal other people mods and sell them or put up crap and sell it. Not to mention the take Valve and Bethesda were getting that made it rather pointless for people putting the work in to go through that channel. Now we have an issue that a game is downloading content you aren't even using. There's probably a way to do paid mods right, I just don't think it's ever going to be from anything a developer tries.</quote> I disagree. PC gamers have been enjoying free mods for ages. They're not going to suddenly be okay with having to pay for them.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Irony 09/03/17 2:09:11 AM #22:	Hexenherz posted... 1337toothbrush posted... Esrac posted... No one likes their paid mods bullshiy last time. No one likes it this time. They'll keep trying until it gets accepted. I wouldn't be surprised if they try barring free mods (thus requiring a price being set) just like how Microsoft forbade companies from releasing free DLC, thus creating this bullshit mess in the first place. No one would buy their games if mods weren't involved. Uh I have and would --- I am Mogar, God of Irony and The Devourer of Topics. http://i.imgtc.com/tHc3mIo.png http://i.imgtc.com/PYxw8Lm.png <cite>Irony posted [p:885933096] in Bethesda's... [t:75736149]...</cite> <quote><cite>Hexenherz posted...</cite> <quote><cite>1337toothbrush posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Esrac posted...</cite> <quote>No one likes their paid mods bullshiy last time. No one likes it this time.</quote> They'll keep trying until it gets accepted. I wouldn't be surprised if they try barring free mods (thus requiring a price being set) just like how Microsoft forbade companies from releasing free DLC, thus creating this bullshit mess in the first place.</quote> No one would buy their games if mods weren't involved.</quote> Uh I have and would</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Alucard188 09/03/17 2:11:57 AM #23:	1337toothbrush posted... Esrac posted... No one likes their paid mods bullshiy last time. No one likes it this time. They'll keep trying until it gets accepted. I wouldn't be surprised if they try barring free mods (thus requiring a price being set) just like how Microsoft forbade companies from releasing free DLC, thus creating this bullshit mess in the first place. Shit, they started heading in that direction by delaying the creation kit until after the first couple of DLC packs were released. FOSE4 took forever to get going as well. Bethesda is trying to ruin what makes their games unique. josifrees posted... Battlefield does the same thing That's a little different because Battlefield is an online multiplayer game. Even though not everyone will buy the gear, you still need to have the files locally to have it display properly on your client. It's basically the same thing that they do in MMORPGs. --- Face it Cloud is a gaming icon and has appered in lots of games while mario has only appeared in 2 games sunshine and 64~xSlashbomBx <cite>Alucard188 posted [p:885933167] in Bethesda's... [t:75736149]...</cite> <quote><cite>1337toothbrush posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Esrac posted...</cite> <quote>No one likes their paid mods bullshiy last time. No one likes it this time.</quote> They'll keep trying until it gets accepted. I wouldn't be surprised if they try barring free mods (thus requiring a price being set) just like how Microsoft forbade companies from releasing free DLC, thus creating this bullshit mess in the first place.</quote> Shit, they started heading in that direction by delaying the creation kit until after the first couple of DLC packs were released. FOSE4 took forever to get going as well. Bethesda is trying to ruin what makes their games unique. <cite>josifrees posted...</cite> <quote>Battlefield does the same thing</quote> That's a little different because Battlefield is an online multiplayer game. Even though not everyone will buy the gear, you still need to have the files locally to have it display properly on your client. It's basically the same thing that they do in MMORPGs.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UrCa1988 09/03/17 2:14:21 AM #24:	The funny thing is that according to the comments in the TC's video, it's possible to extract the files on PC with Bethesda's creation kit and basically make your own esp to allow you to use the mods without buying a key. They just freely gave you the textures but no file that allows them to run, which is easy to create yourself if you know how. --- "Sometimes, all the stupidity in the world is boiled down to one single product that you can buy at Home Depot." <cite>UrCa1988 posted [p:885933227] in Bethesda's... [t:75736149]...</cite> <quote>The funny thing is that according to the comments in the TC's video, it's possible to extract the files on PC with Bethesda's creation kit and basically make your own esp to allow you to use the mods without buying a key. They just freely gave you the textures but no file that allows them to run, which is easy to create yourself if you know how.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Hexenherz 09/03/17 2:15:49 AM #25:	UrCa1988 posted... The funny thing is that according to the comments in the TC's video, it's possible to extract the files on PC with Bethesda's creation kit and basically make your own esp to allow you to use the mods without buying a key. They just freely gave you the textures but no file that allows them to run, which is easy to create yourself if you know how. Based on what he showed in the video I don't know why you'd waste the time :\ <cite>Hexenherz posted [p:885933259] in Bethesda's... [t:75736149]...</cite> <quote><cite>UrCa1988 posted...</cite> <quote>The funny thing is that according to the comments in the TC's video, it's possible to extract the files on PC with Bethesda's creation kit and basically make your own esp to allow you to use the mods without buying a key. They just freely gave you the textures but no file that allows them to run, which is easy to create yourself if you know how.</quote> Based on what he showed in the video I don't know why you'd waste the time :\</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UrCa1988 09/03/17 2:18:53 AM #26:	Hexenherz posted... UrCa1988 posted... The funny thing is that according to the comments in the TC's video, it's possible to extract the files on PC with Bethesda's creation kit and basically make your own esp to allow you to use the mods without buying a key. They just freely gave you the textures but no file that allows them to run, which is easy to create yourself if you know how. Based on what he showed in the video I don't know why you'd waste the time :\ Sure, but it's funny that Bethesda managed to fuck up their implementation so badly that they gave you everything you need to pirate their "DLC." --- "Sometimes, all the stupidity in the world is boiled down to one single product that you can buy at Home Depot." <cite>UrCa1988 posted [p:885933340] in Bethesda's... [t:75736149]...</cite> <quote><cite>Hexenherz posted...</cite> <quote><cite>UrCa1988 posted...</cite> <quote>The funny thing is that according to the comments in the TC's video, it's possible to extract the files on PC with Bethesda's creation kit and basically make your own esp to allow you to use the mods without buying a key. They just freely gave you the textures but no file that allows them to run, which is easy to create yourself if you know how.</quote> Based on what he showed in the video I don't know why you'd waste the time :\</quote> Sure, but it's funny that Bethesda managed to fuck up their implementation so badly that they gave you everything you need to pirate their "DLC."</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Alucard188 09/03/17 2:22:09 AM #27:	UrCa1988 posted... Hexenherz posted... UrCa1988 posted... The funny thing is that according to the comments in the TC's video, it's possible to extract the files on PC with Bethesda's creation kit and basically make your own esp to allow you to use the mods without buying a key. They just freely gave you the textures but no file that allows them to run, which is easy to create yourself if you know how. Based on what he showed in the video I don't know why you'd waste the time :\ Sure, but it's funny that Bethesda managed to fuck up their implementation so badly that they gave you everything you need to pirate their "DLC." There's also the very likely supported position that PC gamers weren't the targets of the Creation Club. PS4 didn't have mods because Sony has stringent requirements and hates playing with other people. With the CC, now they do. Let's see if the money generated is enough to offset the hit to their public relations. Still, those prices are fucking garbage. $5 for a re-skinned suit of power armour? $1 for a coat of paint? Get your head out of your ass, Bethesda. --- Face it Cloud is a gaming icon and has appered in lots of games while mario has only appeared in 2 games sunshine and 64~xSlashbomBx <cite>Alucard188 posted [p:885933439] in Bethesda's... [t:75736149]...</cite> <quote><cite>UrCa1988 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Hexenherz posted...</cite> <quote><cite>UrCa1988 posted...</cite> <quote>The funny thing is that according to the comments in the TC's video, it's possible to extract the files on PC with Bethesda's creation kit and basically make your own esp to allow you to use the mods without buying a key. They just freely gave you the textures but no file that allows them to run, which is easy to create yourself if you know how.</quote> Based on what he showed in the video I don't know why you'd waste the time :\</quote> Sure, but it's funny that Bethesda managed to fuck up their implementation so badly that they gave you everything you need to pirate their "DLC."</quote> There's also the very likely supported position that PC gamers weren't the targets of the Creation Club. PS4 didn't have mods because Sony has stringent requirements and hates playing with other people. With the CC, now they do. Let's see if the money generated is enough to offset the hit to their public relations. Still, those prices are fucking garbage. $5 for a re-skinned suit of power armour? $1 for a coat of paint? Get your head out of your ass, Bethesda.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Hexenherz 09/03/17 2:25:16 AM #29:	Alucard188 posted... UrCa1988 posted... Hexenherz posted... UrCa1988 posted... The funny thing is that according to the comments in the TC's video, it's possible to extract the files on PC with Bethesda's creation kit and basically make your own esp to allow you to use the mods without buying a key. They just freely gave you the textures but no file that allows them to run, which is easy to create yourself if you know how. Based on what he showed in the video I don't know why you'd waste the time :\ Sure, but it's funny that Bethesda managed to fuck up their implementation so badly that they gave you everything you need to pirate their "DLC." There's also the very likely supported position that PC gamers weren't the targets of the Creation Club. PS4 didn't have mods because Sony has stringent requirements and hates playing with other people. With the CC, now they do. Let's see if the money generated is enough to offset the hit to their public relations. Still, those prices are fucking garbage. $5 for a re-skinned suit of power armour? $1 for a coat of paint? Get your head out of your ass, Bethesda. So with consoles added to the equation... now console gamers are being forced to download additional useless data, and they've got even more space constrictions than most PC owners... <cite>Hexenherz posted [p:885933514] in Bethesda's... [t:75736149]...</cite> <quote><cite>Alucard188 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>UrCa1988 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Hexenherz posted...</cite> <quote><cite>UrCa1988 posted...</cite> <quote>The funny thing is that according to the comments in the TC's video, it's possible to extract the files on PC with Bethesda's creation kit and basically make your own esp to allow you to use the mods without buying a key. They just freely gave you the textures but no file that allows them to run, which is easy to create yourself if you know how.</quote> Based on what he showed in the video I don't know why you'd waste the time :\</quote> Sure, but it's funny that Bethesda managed to fuck up their implementation so badly that they gave you everything you need to pirate their "DLC."</quote> There's also the very likely supported position that PC gamers weren't the targets of the Creation Club. PS4 didn't have mods because Sony has stringent requirements and hates playing with other people. With the CC, now they do. Let's see if the money generated is enough to offset the hit to their public relations. Still, those prices are fucking garbage. $5 for a re-skinned suit of power armour? $1 for a coat of paint? Get your head out of your ass, Bethesda.</quote> So with consoles added to the equation... now console gamers are being forced to download additional useless data, and they've got even more space constrictions than most PC owners...</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Gamer99z 09/03/17 2:25:59 AM #30:	josifrees posted... Battlefield does the same thing Battlefield doesn't make you download the Premium maps and such if you don't want to, which take up gigabytes of data. You just have skins and stuff but isn't that kinda required so that your game is able to load other people's skins and stuff? Or did they change the map thing with BF1? I haven't played that one. --- "You need to lay off the peanut-butthurt and u-jelly sandwiches" - Neon Octopus <cite>Gamer99z posted [p:885933535] in Bethesda's... [t:75736149]...</cite> <quote><cite>josifrees posted...</cite> <quote>Battlefield does the same thing</quote> Battlefield doesn't make you download the Premium maps and such if you don't want to, which take up gigabytes of data. You just have skins and stuff but isn't that kinda required so that your game is able to load other people's skins and stuff? Or did they change the map thing with BF1? I haven't played that one.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Hexenherz 09/03/17 2:27:54 AM #31:	Yes, Battlefield 1 I believe downloads all new content regardless if you own it or not. Honestly I don't have a problem with a game doing that, since it's official content I might buy in the future anyway, and I anticipate the extra data usage. But I don't like the idea of a potentially limitless mod library expanding to consume my entire hard drive. <cite>Hexenherz posted [p:885933592] in Bethesda's... [t:75736149]...</cite> <quote>Yes, Battlefield 1 I believe downloads all new content regardless if you own it or not. Honestly I don't have a problem with a game doing that, since it's official content I might buy in the future anyway, and I anticipate the extra data usage. But I don't like the idea of a potentially limitless mod library expanding to consume my entire hard drive.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tmaster148 09/03/17 2:31:47 AM #32:	Hexenherz posted... Yes, Battlefield 1 I believe downloads all new content regardless if you own it or not. Honestly I don't have a problem with a game doing that, since it's official content I might buy in the future anyway, and I anticipate the extra data usage. But I don't like the idea of a potentially limitless mod library expanding to consume my entire hard drive. Well for multiplayer games everyone would need to download any new dlcs since it would cause issues playing with a new item and some other player in the game not having the data for it. There's at least a reason why a game like Battlefield 1 does this. Fallout 4 is a single player game with no multiplayer components so it's not like you need to download every dlc released. --- http://i.imgur.com/BBcZDLJ.png <cite>Tmaster148 posted [p:885933694] in Bethesda's... [t:75736149]...</cite> <quote><cite>Hexenherz posted...</cite> <quote>Yes, Battlefield 1 I believe downloads all new content regardless if you own it or not. Honestly I don't have a problem with a game doing that, since it's official content I might buy in the future anyway, and I anticipate the extra data usage. But I don't like the idea of a potentially limitless mod library expanding to consume my entire hard drive.</quote> Well for multiplayer games everyone would need to download any new dlcs since it would cause issues playing with a new item and some other player in the game not having the data for it. There's at least a reason why a game like Battlefield 1 does this. Fallout 4 is a single player game with no multiplayer components so it's not like you need to download every dlc released.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Alucard188 09/03/17 2:32:13 AM #33:	Hexenherz posted... So with consoles added to the equation... now console gamers are being forced to download additional useless data, and they've got even more space constrictions than most PC owners... We don't know if this is how it's handled on consoles, though. Then, there's this: General Known Issues: Purchasing Creation Credits while logged into more than one XB1 profile may cause purchases not to register properly. We recommend only logging in with the XB1 profile that is linked to Bethesda.net to purchase Creation Credits. We’re working on solutions that would not require Creation Club archives to be part of the game’s patch. https://bethesda.net/community/topic/87400/creation-club-faq So they're aware that it's an issue for people, and are working on a way to fix it. The likelihood that this practice will continue in the future is doubtful if the work on their backend works. They also have a fiscal reason for it as well, because this isn't like disc-locked content where you couldn't access the files easily. Still, that they didn't have this thought of beforehand is absurd. How can a company so predominately a fixture in the PC market and modding culture for the last 15 years have no idea about these types of things? --- Face it Cloud is a gaming icon and has appered in lots of games while mario has only appeared in 2 games sunshine and 64~xSlashbomBx <cite>Alucard188 posted [p:885933712] in Bethesda's... [t:75736149]...</cite> <quote><cite>Hexenherz posted...</cite> <quote>So with consoles added to the equation... now console gamers are being forced to download additional useless data, and they've got even more space constrictions than most PC owners... </quote> We don't know if this is how it's handled on consoles, though. Then, there's this: <quote>General Known Issues: Purchasing Creation Credits while logged into more than one XB1 profile may cause purchases not to register properly. We recommend only logging in with the XB1 profile that is linked to Bethesda.net to purchase Creation Credits. We’re working on solutions that would not require Creation Club archives to be part of the game’s patch. </quote> https://bethesda.net/community/topic/87400/creation-club-faq So they're aware that it's an issue for people, and are working on a way to fix it. The likelihood that this practice will continue in the future is doubtful if the work on their backend works. They also have a fiscal reason for it as well, because this isn't like disc-locked content where you couldn't access the files easily. Still, that they didn't have this thought of beforehand is absurd. How can a company so predominately a fixture in the PC market and modding culture for the last 15 years have no idea about these types of things?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DreadedWave 09/03/17 3:11:12 AM #34:	Alucard188 posted... So they're aware that it's an issue for people, and are working on a way to fix it. The only way to fix this mess is to scrap the entire idea and apologize to the community. --- https://i.imgur.com/E6BqEBZ.jpg <cite>DreadedWave posted [p:885934586] in Bethesda's... [t:75736149]...</cite> <quote><cite>Alucard188 posted...</cite> <quote>So they're aware that it's an issue for people, and are working on a way to fix it.</quote> The only way to fix this mess is to scrap the entire idea and apologize to the community.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dash_Harber 09/03/17 3:31:00 AM #35:	Frolex posted... lol AAA game development in 2017 everyone Yeah, totally the first time a game company has been scummy as fuck. >_> <cite>Dash_Harber posted [p:885934985] in Bethesda's... [t:75736149]...</cite> <quote><cite>Frolex posted...</cite> <quote>lol AAA game development in 2017 everyone</quote> Yeah, totally the first time a game company has been scummy as fuck. >_></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DreadedWave 09/03/17 3:35:30 AM #36:	Dash_Harber posted... Frolex posted... lol AAA game development in 2017 everyone Yeah, totally the first time a game company has been scummy as fuck. >_> Consumers: "I'm not sure a game company could do anything as scummy as EA/Activision" Bethesda "Hold my beer" --- https://i.imgur.com/E6BqEBZ.jpg <cite>DreadedWave posted [p:885935072] in Bethesda's... [t:75736149]...</cite> <quote><cite>Dash_Harber posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Frolex posted...</cite> <quote>lol AAA game development in 2017 everyone</quote> Yeah, totally the first time a game company has been scummy as fuck. >_></quote> Consumers: "I'm not sure a game company could do anything as scummy as EA/Activision" Bethesda "Hold my beer"</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dash_Harber 09/03/17 3:39:54 AM #37:	DreadedWave posted... Dash_Harber posted... Frolex posted... lol AAA game development in 2017 everyone Yeah, totally the first time a game company has been scummy as fuck. >_> Consumers: "I'm not sure a game company could do anything as scummy as EA/Activision" Bethesda "Hold my beer" Hahaha, so true. Seriously though, scummy business practices have been in the gaming industry since the beginning. People act like Nintendo just handed out free games to everyone and there were no other consoles until Playstation, but there was scummy stuff straight from the get-go. Hell, how many games were just blatant rip offs of other games that had the characters replaced by some recently famous character to turn it into a movie tie-in? Let's not forget that the dot from the Sprite can and Chester Cheeto had video games. <cite>Dash_Harber posted [p:885935172] in Bethesda's... [t:75736149]...</cite> <quote><cite>DreadedWave posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Dash_Harber posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Frolex posted...</cite> <quote>lol AAA game development in 2017 everyone</quote> Yeah, totally the first time a game company has been scummy as fuck. >_></quote> Consumers: "I'm not sure a game company could do anything as scummy as EA/Activision" Bethesda "Hold my beer"</quote> Hahaha, so true. Seriously though, scummy business practices have been in the gaming industry since the beginning. People act like Nintendo just handed out free games to everyone and there were no other consoles until Playstation, but there was scummy stuff straight from the get-go. Hell, how many games were just blatant rip offs of other games that had the characters replaced by some recently famous character to turn it into a movie tie-in? Let's not forget that the dot from the Sprite can and Chester Cheeto had video games.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LJRENEGADE 09/03/17 9:53:09 AM #38:	I wouldn't even care if they did it for their new games, but don't ruin a 6 year old and a 2 year old game ffs <cite>LJRENEGADE posted [p:885942097] in Bethesda's... [t:75736149]...</cite> <quote>I wouldn't even care if they did it for their new games, but don't ruin a 6 year old and a 2 year old game ffs</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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