Current Events > Judge orders dogs to be debarked.

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http://www.oregonlive.com/pacific-northwest-news/index.ssf/2017/08/owners_must_surgically_debark.html

I hate when pets are caught up and forced to suffer because of stubborn and irresponsible humans.
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Fuck that judge and fuck those owners.

A better solution would be be remove the dogs and give them to better owners. Why should an animal ever be made to suffer due to the acts of shit tier humans?
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the owners live on a farm and use the dogs to protect their animals

I mean is any vet actually gonna do it?
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treewojima posted...

the owners live on a farm and use the dogs to protect their animals

The courts determined they were not legally entitled to that usage.
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seems more sensible that the neighbors find a quieter area
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I hope something terrible happens to the judge.
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A lot of sick people don't view anything not human as having value.
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Twinmold posted...

A lot of sick people don't view anything not human as having value.

Dogs are classified as property, which is why our laws regarding those who do them harm are as ridiculously inadequate as they are.
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_Goggalor_ posted...

I hope something terrible happens to the judge.

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Anti-bark collars are far more humane than permanent surgery. The lawyers should definitely file a petition to suggest alternative measures.
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prettyprincess posted...

seems more sensible that the neighbors find a quieter area

Why should they have to abandon their house that probably has a lot of value and sentiment to them? They aren't doing anything wrong. The Szewc and Updegraff household is subjecting their neighbors to nuisances they're not legally allowed to. They're the ones being a menace to the neighbors and putting innocent dogs in harms way as well.
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@The_Doge, better get all your last barks in now, boy :(
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_Goggalor_ posted...

Twinmold posted...

A lot of sick people don't view anything not human as having value.

Dogs are classified as property, which is why our laws regarding those who do them harm are as ridiculously inadequate as they are.

Unless the dog is wearing a K9 vest, in which case you better not touch a hair on it's head
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How is that not cruelty or inhumane

Let's start surgically removing vocal cords of babies that cry to much
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Judges have way too much power. They need to be held in check as well.
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One possibly good outcome is that this can lead to awareness that debarking is a thing and get some legislation against it. I personally had no idea it was such a thing but I'd definitely sign a petition against it now tbh.
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Where does debarking fall on the "spaying/neutering" to "declawing" end of the spectrum? Honest question, I'm not familiar at all with the procedure.
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NINExATExSEVEN posted...

Judges have way too much power

Oregon just doing what Oregon does best
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I'd rather give my dogs away than put them through that.

I kinda wish my neighbors dogs were debarked. I hate waking up at 2-6am because their dumbasses won't shut up and makes my dogs keep running to the window to stare and probably bark back.

Doesn't help that my window is probably 20ft from the barking menaces.

But it is a mean thing to do, but I'll probably snap and throw the dogs over the moon before I do anything
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Ah man, they don't get to disturb people with nuisance barking anymore!
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Bloodychess posted...

_Goggalor_ posted...

Twinmold posted...

A lot of sick people don't view anything not human as having value.

Dogs are classified as property, which is why our laws regarding those who do them harm are as ridiculously inadequate as they are.

Unless the dog is wearing a K9 vest, in which case you better not touch a hair on it's head

Ah, there's the cringe quota.
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My dog has had vocal reduction surgery



I didn't do it, was the previous owner. It is nice not to worry about noise complaints, but I would never get something like that done, especially to such a vocal breed
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There's nothing wrong with debarking. It doesn't eliminate their barking outright but cuts it in half. You ever hear a dog, especially medium and large breeds, that have that ear piercing oomph to their barks? It gets rid of that.

The only problems arise with the inherent risks of surgery but other than that, they behave the same. The effectiveness of them as a deterrent is definitely reduced but that's the owner's fault.

Seriously, though, fuck people with nuisance dogs. Unless you've experienced people with several large dogs creating a non-stop cacophony, you really can't understand how bad it is. It really is entirely unfair and people should be punished for it.
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Not wow
Doge must bork
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KrustyTheClown posted...

Seriously, though, f*** people with nuisance dogs. Unless you've experienced people with several large dogs creating a non-stop cacophony, you really can't understand how bad it is. It really is entirely unfair and people should be punished for it.

I've lived through it. The owners should be jailed and the dogs removed from society.
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KrustyTheClown posted...

There's nothing wrong with debarking. It doesn't eliminate their barking outright but cuts it in half. You ever hear a dog, especially medium and large breeds, that have that ear piercing oomph to their barks? It gets rid of that.

The only problems arise with the inherent risks of surgery but other than that, they behave the same. The effectiveness of them as a deterrent is definitely reduced but that's the owner's fault.

Seriously, though, fuck people with nuisance dogs. Unless you've experienced people with several large dogs creating a non-stop cacophony, you really can't understand how bad it is. It really is entirely unfair and people should be punished for it.

Did your widdle ears hurt? :(
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there's nothing wrong with inherently risky surgery?
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gamer167 posted...

Did your widdle ears hurt? :(

No, it just made taking care of my dementia stricken mother nearly impossible because she was unable to maintain a routine due to the dumbass neighbor's dogs barking literally non-stop all day. Couldn't sleep, couldn't do her therapy, couldn't have any goddamn moment of peace. Neighbors didn't care about that and had the same bitch ass attitude you do. Luckily the city forced them to get rid of the dogs.
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There's no debating how awful noise nuisances can be. Sleep is such an important part of maintaining your health, physically and mentally, so if you're deprived of that by selfish neighbors, you're going to have problems.

I've never had to deal with it to too bad a level but I can see how it easily gets to be out of control.
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I say we surgically remove the fucking people's ears instead. Problem solved.
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KrustyTheClown posted...

There's nothing wrong with debarking. It doesn't eliminate their barking outright but cuts it in half. You ever hear a dog, especially medium and large breeds, that have that ear piercing oomph to their barks? It gets rid of that.

The only problems arise with the inherent risks of surgery but other than that, they behave the same. The effectiveness of them as a deterrent is definitely reduced but that's the owner's fault.

Seriously, though, fuck people with nuisance dogs. Unless you've experienced people with several large dogs creating a non-stop cacophony, you really can't understand how bad it is. It really is entirely unfair and people should be punished for it.

More like just fuck people. My dogs happiness>>>>>yours.
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Deadpool_18 posted...

I say we surgically remove the fucking people's ears instead. Problem solved.

It's not their fault the dog owners subjected them to that or that debarking was the judge's order. Stop victim blaming.
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DanielCormier posted...

Deadpool_18 posted...

I say we surgically remove the fucking people's ears instead. Problem solved.

It's not their fault the dog owners subjected them to that or that debarking was the judge's order. Stop victim blaming.

The dog is the victim here, buddy.
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Deadpool_18 posted...

The dog is the victim here, buddy.

The dogs and the neighbors both.
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Imagine actually thinking the neighbors are at fault here because you didn't train your dogs to stop barking for six hours straight, and it's not just one dog, it's five+ dogs.

Literally went through 10 years of this crap and complaints before it had to get to this point.

Can't say I'm sympathetic to the owners. At my old place my neighbor across the alley had their dog barking almost constantly. Couldn't sleep at all. Go out to take the garbage to the street and he starts going off for 30 minutes. Even my dog that barked at simple knocks would have an expression like "stfu".

Owners damn fault the dog has to be debarked. If there's a more humane way to lower noise, we should look into that. But human sleep and function trumps a dog's voice IMO.
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KrustyTheClown posted...

There's nothing wrong with debarking. It doesn't eliminate their barking outright but cuts it in half. You ever hear a dog, especially medium and large breeds, that have that ear piercing oomph to their barks? It gets rid of that.

The only problems arise with the inherent risks of surgery but other than that, they behave the same. The effectiveness of them as a deterrent is definitely reduced but that's the owner's fault.

Seriously, though, fuck people with nuisance dogs. Unless you've experienced people with several large dogs creating a non-stop cacophony, you really can't understand how bad it is. It really is entirely unfair and people should be punished for it.

this. its pretty reasonable.

im also tired of people treating dogs holier than persons - the owners could always just get rid of their dogs by sale if they want to avoid de-barking anyway.
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It's strange how people complain that dogs aren't valued as much as humans, but also want dogs to just be able to bark as much, as loudly, as they want, nonstop, all through the night.

Humans can't get away with doing that. >_>
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myzz7 posted...

KrustyTheClown posted...

There's nothing wrong with debarking. It doesn't eliminate their barking outright but cuts it in half. You ever hear a dog, especially medium and large breeds, that have that ear piercing oomph to their barks? It gets rid of that.

The only problems arise with the inherent risks of surgery but other than that, they behave the same. The effectiveness of them as a deterrent is definitely reduced but that's the owner's fault.

Seriously, though, fuck people with nuisance dogs. Unless you've experienced people with several large dogs creating a non-stop cacophony, you really can't understand how bad it is. It really is entirely unfair and people should be punished for it.

this. its pretty reasonable.

im also tired of people treating dogs holier than persons - the owners could always just get rid of their dogs by sale if they want to avoid de-barking anyway.

Or the neighbors could move.
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_Goggalor_ posted...

Or the neighbors could move.

Or the dog owners could move.
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Tmk posted...

_Goggalor_ posted...

Or the neighbors could move.

Or the dog owners could move.

Nope. Don't like the barking? Go somewhere else.
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Blue_Dream87 posted...

If there's a more humane way to lower noise, we should look into that. But human sleep and function trumps a dog's voice IMO.

From what I read, they have not made any attempts to keep the dogs barking because they want them to, since they're there to guard their livestock. It's a bit different than having annoying dogs in the city but the courts determined they didn't have the right to do it all the same.

When someone brought up the idea using a gun to keep them safe, the owner turned it down and said there was no need for a gun because they have the dogs. He or she (I think there are two different owners) just really do not care that they're terrorizing their neighbors or see anything wrong with what they're doing.
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_Goggalor_ posted...

Nope. Don't like the barking? Go somewhere else.

You're one of those obnoxious entitled dog owners no one likes aren't you?
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Tmk posted...

_Goggalor_ posted...

Nope. Don't like the barking? Go somewhere else.

You're one of those obnoxious entitled dog owners no one likes aren't you?

No, he's a legitimately mentally ill person. Best leave him be.
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Tmk posted...

_Goggalor_ posted...

Nope. Don't like the barking? Go somewhere else.

You're one of those obnoxious entitled dog owners no one likes aren't you?

No, I just don't like people and think dogs are better.
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I swear people take the most obvious bait. You're gullible as shit.


I wish the punishment was more towards the owners themselves though. People who let their dogs bark all the time day and night deserve fines out the ass.
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