Current Events > when did communism become so popular amongst the young and uneducated?

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been noticing a trend online with more people wanting to move into communism, mostly amongst the young and uneducated

who/what/when/where/why?

The financial crisis
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Antifar posted...

The financial crisis

And the ever increasing wealth divide
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Leftist academia and the leftist media are mostly silent on the crimes of the left. Even their chosen vocabulary makes their intentions clear. For example, LePen is "far right" but hardly anyone in the media calls the Venezuelan regime "far left".
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tennisdude818 posted...

Leftist academia and the leftist media are mostly silent on the crimes of the left. Even their chosen vocabulary makes their intentions clear. For example, LePen is "far right" but hardly anyone in the media calls the Venezuelan regime "far left".

Venezuela isn't far left. Far left is the government in Demolition Man.
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Maybe if more conservatives valued education, they would learn what Communism actually means. I know it's a stretch, but one can dream.
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once Bernie and Obama promised all that free stuff
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ChromaticAngel posted...

tennisdude818 posted...

Leftist academia and the leftist media are mostly silent on the crimes of the left. Even their chosen vocabulary makes their intentions clear. For example, LePen is "far right" but hardly anyone in the media calls the Venezuelan regime "far left".

Venezuela isn't far left. Far left is the government in Demolition Man.

I knew somebody would say that. This is another reason communism is in vogue. None of the disasters ever count in the minds of leftists.
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It represents a lazy and low effort lifestyle
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Blame the education system and the democrats.
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Twinmold posted...

Maybe if more conservatives valued education, they would learn what Communism actually means. I know it's a stretch, but one can dream.

Mao killed 45 million people in 4 years.
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They want everyone to be as miserable as them
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Natural order of things, really:
Young: "Why I gotta work for shit that should be free?"
Middle-aged: "Why I gotta work so hard to pay for that guy's shit?"
Old: "Why I gotta work for shit that should be free?"

Everybody gets an equal piece of the pie seems like a good idea until it gets manipulated and corrupted.

Saxon posted...

Everybody gets an equal piece of the pie seems like a good idea until it gets manipulated and corrupted.

Everybody getting an equal piece of the pie just results in fewer bakers.

HypnoCoosh posted...

Blame the education system and the democrats.

Why would Democrats want people to be communists? I thought they want votes.
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FLUFFYGERM posted...

young and uneducated

Well, there's your answer
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Roxborough4Ever posted...

once Bernie and Obama promised all that free stuff

Bernie never promised free stuff, said taxes would pay for it.

What did Obama promise again?
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gmanthebest posted...

FLUFFYGERM posted...

young and uneducated

Well, there's your answer

so basically it's because most of them are just unbelievably stupid and naive?

pinky0926 posted...

Antifar posted...

The financial crisis

And the ever increasing wealth divide

You will have the same thing just with the high level government officials having the money and resources instead of Bill gates, Elon Musk, Mark zuckerberg and the like.
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tennisdude818 posted...

Twinmold posted...

Maybe if more conservatives valued education, they would learn what Communism actually means. I know it's a stretch, but one can dream.

Mao killed 45 million people in 4 years.

Conservatives are allowed to talk about Communism when they can prove they know what defines Communism. Hint, it's not Democrats, nor other political parties you disagree with.
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Twinmold posted...

Maybe if more conservatives valued education, they would learn what Communism actually means. I know it's a stretch, but one can dream.

What's there to learn about communism? It's never worked and has caused more deaths than ww2.

What brand of communism are you selling?
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FLUFFYGERM posted...

gmanthebest posted...

FLUFFYGERM posted...

young and uneducated

Well, there's your answer

so basically it's because most of them are just unbelievably stupid and naive?

Yes
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Lack of social mobility and opportunity, having access to information to see how absolutely fucked a lot of the upper class can be. As awareness increases it becomes easier to look for potential solutions.
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It's not like it doesn't make sense if you somehow assume the gvrnment is benevolent
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I think it's a reaction against modern captalism / neoliberalism, which they feel is unsustainable and makes people do terrible things to survive within it. Communism is basically the antithesis of that: a classless, moneyless, stateless society.

luigi13579 posted...

I think it's a reaction against modern captalism / neoliberalism, which they feel is unsustainable and makes people do terrible things to survive within it. Communism is basically the antithesis of that: a classless, moneyless, stateless society.

that'll never exist

FLUFFYGERM posted...

that'll never exist

Probably not.

luigi13579 posted...

FLUFFYGERM posted...

that'll never exist

Probably not.

socialists are fools if they really believe it can

Capitalism awards more power to the wealthy, who then abuse that power to give themselves more wealth or take away wealth from others. This makes "moving up" nearly impossible for a majority, which leaves them struggling to avoid poverty and working harder for disproportionately less than their wealthy counterparts.

Capitalism also harms the consumer by disguising deregulation as "competition" and "innovation," when in reality most of the top companies avoid innovation and expanding infrastructure and try to buy out the competition (see: Big Oil, Big Telecom, Big Banks). The call for deregulation also opens up the door for harmful business practices and damage to communities and the environment (see: Leaded paint, leaded gasoline)

Luckily we don't live in pure, unregulated capitalism, but there are groups of people who want to move that way. There are also groups who want even more protection and power to the consumer as a stronger check to the influence these companies hold
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FLUFFYGERM posted...

luigi13579 posted...

I think it's a reaction against modern captalism / neoliberalism, which they feel is unsustainable and makes people do terrible things to survive within it. Communism is basically the antithesis of that: a classless, moneyless, stateless society.

that'll never exist

It CAN'T exist for a population above a hundred people.
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ZMythos posted...

Capitalism awards more power to the wealthy, who then abuse that power to give themselves more wealth or take away wealth from others. This makes "moving up" nearly impossible for a majority, which leaves them struggling to avoid poverty and working harder for disproportionately less than their wealthy counterparts.

then how do you explain this:

https://www.entrepreneur.com/article/291896
https://www.cnbc.com/2017/03/24/a-record-number-of-americans-are-now-millionaires-new-study-shows.html

note that most of these are first generation rich

ZMythos posted...

Capitalism also harms the consumer by disguising deregulation as "competition" and "innovation," when in reality most of the top companies avoid innovation and expanding infrastructure and try to buy out the competition (see: Big Oil, Big Telecom, Big Banks). The call for deregulation also opens up the door for harmful business practices and damage to communities and the environment (see: Leaded paint, leaded gasoline)

capitalism doesn't support monopolies

ZMythos posted...

Luckily we don't live in pure, unregulated capitalism, but there are groups of people who want to move that way. There are also groups who want even more protection and power to the consumer as a stronger check to the influence these companies hold

the only people who want to go that way are the people who run those monopolies

Communism is responsible for more deaths than Nazism. Its ok though because Communism sounds better on paper.
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SharpX68000 posted...

Communism is responsible for more deaths than Nazism. Its ok though because Communism sounds better on paper.

Which would you prefer over the other?
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A_Good_Boy posted...

SharpX68000 posted...

Communism is responsible for more deaths than Nazism. Its ok though because Communism sounds better on paper.

Which would you prefer over the other?

Neither. Theyre both crap. Nazism is worse in theory but Communism has proven to be more deadly in its impact.
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Twinmold posted...

tennisdude818 posted...

Twinmold posted...

Maybe if more conservatives valued education, they would learn what Communism actually means. I know it's a stretch, but one can dream.

Mao killed 45 million people in 4 years.

Conservatives are allowed to talk about Communism when they can prove they know what defines Communism. Hint, it's not Democrats, nor other political parties you disagree with.

By that line of thinking, you must be very outspoken against people who wrongly accuse others of fascism and nazism.
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FLUFFYGERM posted...

https://www.cnbc.com/2017/03/24/a-record-number-of-americans-are-now-millionaires-new-study-shows.html

At the same time that there is a record number of millionaires in the U.S., the middle class is shrinking. The percent of American adults who are considered middle-income fell from 55 percent in 2000 to 52 percent in 2014, according to a 2016 report from the Pew Research Center.

And increasing numbers of Americans are living paycheck to paycheck. One in three say they couldn't come up with $2,000 if faced with an emergency like an urgent home repair, medical crisis or car accident. Meanwhile, even affluent two-income households report feeling pinched.

FLUFFYGERM posted...

capitalism doesn't support monopolies

That's where you're wrong, kiddo.

FLUFFYGERM posted...

the only people who want to go that way are the people who run those monopolies

Wat? Monopolies want to give away their power? wtf?
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The poor and uneducated are highly suspectable to promises of 'equality' and eating the rich, which is why it caught on so well in 3rd world shitholes instead of advanced capitalist societies much to Marx's misprediction.
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tagging ZMythos as dishonest

FLUFFYGERM posted...

then how do you explain this:

What is inflation?
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tennisdude818 posted...

By that line of thinking, you must be very outspoken against people who wrongly accuse others of fascism and nazism.

I think conservatives should choose different flags and chants if they want to avoid those accusations. The fact that white supremacists being called so is a soft spot for you just shows how ignorant your beliefs are.
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Kids and man-children in their 20s think "communism" and "socialism" mean they get free stuff to maintain a comfortable lifestyle without needing to work or contribute to the system, even though this is complete fantasy. It's childlike thinking, which is why adults with non-entry level jobs think it's laughable.
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Twinmold posted...

tennisdude818 posted...

By that line of thinking, you must be very outspoken against people who wrongly accuse others of fascism and nazism.

I think conservatives should choose different flags and chants if they want to avoid those accusations. The fact that white supremacists being called so is a soft spot for you just shows how ignorant your beliefs are.

Aaand you just employed a weasely method to imply that I'm a white supremacist sympathizer. I guess you don't really have an issue with words being deceptively misused after all.
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hahah is twinmold really still polluting gamefaqs with his posts

True communism would be fantastic but it's impossible to achieve with humans in charge of it.

Great idea on paper, nowhere near achievable
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Idealism and rebellion will, sadly, always exist.
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RPGaddict28 posted...

And cancer is capitalisims fault! And the fact we get old and die is capitalisims fault!

Seriously though, as India and China moved towards market economies 100s of millions of people escaped poverty. if communism did that, sociology professors would have a lot to say about it.
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MagusKingOfZeal posted...

It represents a lazy and low effort lifestyle

Why try when everything ends? That is an individual's opinion but sooner or later that opinion will spread.
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glitteringfairy posted...

True communism would be fantastic but it's impossible to achieve with humans in charge of it.

Great idea on paper, nowhere near achievable

The traditional nuclear family is a working model of ideal communism.