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Ammonitida
08/31/17 2:36:39 PM
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That_Happened posted...
Ammonitida posted...
Except that Trump distinguished between the "fine people" and the Neo-Nazis.


Everyone who showed up to the rally was there for a Neo-Nazi/White Nationalist rally. There were no "fine people" on that side.


Trump was uniformed as usual.

But he did not say that there were Neo-Nazis and white supremacists who were "fine people".
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andel
08/31/17 2:38:13 PM
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RickyTheBAWSE posted...
andel posted...
yeah, blm doesnt have 'memberships'. this guy was with blm and committed hate crimes and they get to own it seeing as how they promote that kind of rhetoric


you become a member by joining a chapter... wtf...


irrelevant. obviously he was with them and listened to their hate filled rhetoric, certainly was a factor on why he decided to go kill white people
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Ammonitida
08/31/17 2:38:57 PM
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Capn Circus posted...
CrimsonRage posted...
Capn Circus posted...
CrimsonRage posted...
Capn Circus posted...
How is this hate crime not national news?


Probably because it's not very interesting.

>Guy murders 5 people
>gets arrested
>nobody is defending him

Can't do much with that story. News media is driven by ratings first and foremost.


You can't say with a straight face that if the races were reversed it also wouldn't get coverage, can you?


Because when the races are reversed, that third part doesn't always apply.


No one defends instances such as these except the fringe on both sides. No one defended Dylan Roof or other cases.

There's no reason for this to be hidden like it is.


It's not actually "hidden". The story just broke. Give it time.
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That_Happened
08/31/17 2:40:17 PM
#55:


Ammonitida posted...
That_Happened posted...
Ammonitida posted...
Except that Trump distinguished between the "fine people" and the Neo-Nazis.


Everyone who showed up to the rally was there for a Neo-Nazi/White Nationalist rally. There were no "fine people" on that side.


Trump was uniformed as usual.


I agree. And the reason he was uninformed IMO is because he chose to be. The same reason you see the same arguments on CE about how there were people there "just to protest the removal of the statue."

But he did not say that there were Neo-Nazis and white supremacists who were "fine people".


He did actually. He may have said it by "accident" because he was misinformed, but he automatically assumed there were fine people on the Neo Nazi side. And that's why those same groups rejoiced that he didn't come down on them too hard.
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RickyTheBAWSE
08/31/17 2:40:45 PM
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andel posted...
RickyTheBAWSE posted...
andel posted...
yeah, blm doesnt have 'memberships'. this guy was with blm and committed hate crimes and they get to own it seeing as how they promote that kind of rhetoric


you become a member by joining a chapter... wtf...


irrelevant. obviously he was with them and listened to their hate filled rhetoric, certainly was a factor on why he decided to go kill white people


completely relevant because it was a rebuttal to an unsubstantiated statement. but you saying that despite me clearly responding to somebody's claim is proof that you're disingenuous and will literally say anything at this point.

you make claims that can be easily googled before posting, but you won't. gotta stay ignorant to keep that narrative strong and post count up.
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creativerealms
08/31/17 2:41:00 PM
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Good. I am agianst killing, I am agianst hate.
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RickyTheBAWSE
08/31/17 2:41:58 PM
#58:


Knowledge_King posted...
The Admiral posted...
Wearing a Black Lives Matter T-shirt


That doesn't make them a part of Black lives matter any more than wearing a band's shirt makes you a part of that band.

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ImTheMacheteGuy
08/31/17 2:42:16 PM
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Ex-Kefiroth posted...
ImTheMacheteGuy posted...

Why do you look at shit blm posts on social media?


https://twitter.com/BLMNational

good stuff


Oh come on Kefi you should know that I never click on Twitter links :P (although now that I think of it, I'm more known for that on b8 than elsewhere...)
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Ammonitida
08/31/17 2:43:36 PM
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That_Happened posted...
Ammonitida posted...
That_Happened posted...
Ammonitida posted...
Except that Trump distinguished between the "fine people" and the Neo-Nazis.


Everyone who showed up to the rally was there for a Neo-Nazi/White Nationalist rally. There were no "fine people" on that side.


Trump was uniformed as usual.


I agree. And the reason he was uninformed IMO is because he chose to be. The same reason you see the same arguments on CE about how there were people there "just to protest the removal of the statue."

But he did not say that there were Neo-Nazis and white supremacists who were "fine people".


He did actually. He may have said it by "accident" because he was misinformed, but he automatically assumed there were fine people on the Neo Nazi side. And that's why those same groups rejoiced that he didn't come down on them too hard.


Well, actually there was. Twitch streamer Brittany Venti attended too in opposition of the removal. She's no white supremacist or Neo-Nazi. She's part black. She's the only one I'm aware of though. She took some video of the event which can be seen on her youtube account
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NINExATExSEVEN
08/31/17 2:49:44 PM
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RickyTheBAWSE posted...
@The_Admiral

wearing a t-shirt =/= membership

claiming to support =/= membership

we've had this conversation before and I shut you down for the same reason. you never learn.

one more chance: show me a member saying that. you said "members" in a plural way, but can't even find a singular example? then stop lying.


@RickyTheBAWSE

You see a person walking down the st with an alt-right shirt and supports the alt-right narrative. What is he?
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NINExATExSEVEN
08/31/17 2:51:27 PM
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thronedfire2 posted...
RickyTheBAWSE posted...
@The_Admiral

wearing a t-shirt =/= membership

claiming to support =/= membership

we've had this conversation before and I shut you down for the same reason. you never learn.

one more chance: show me a member saying that. you said "members" in a plural way, but can't even find a singular example? then stop lying.


I guess all those nazis in Charlottesville weren't really nazis then? I doubt they were carrying membership cards, they just happened to be wearing swastikas and supporting the same things


Ricky just got reeeeeekt!!


Rofl XD
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ImTheMacheteGuy
08/31/17 2:52:27 PM
#63:


NINExATExSEVEN posted...
RickyTheBAWSE posted...
@The_Admiral

wearing a t-shirt =/= membership

claiming to support =/= membership

we've had this conversation before and I shut you down for the same reason. you never learn.

one more chance: show me a member saying that. you said "members" in a plural way, but can't even find a singular example? then stop lying.


@RickyTheBAWSE

You see a person walking down the st with an alt-right shirt and supports the alt-right narrative. What is he?


A fucking douchebag
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Antifar
08/31/17 2:52:32 PM
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My understanding of BLM is that it doesn't have members. It's not like there are people paying dues to a national organization, it's not even like registering with a political party.
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That_Happened
08/31/17 2:52:55 PM
#65:


Ammonitida posted...
Well, actually there was. Twitch streamer Brittany Venti attended too in opposition of the removal. She's no white supremacist or Neo-Nazi. She's part black.


*smirk*

She says she took an ancestry.com spit test type of thing and found out she has a little bit of "african blood" in her that she was unaware of. Then she spends the rest of the ADHD-as-fuck video pretty much mocking the idea, saying cringeworthy stuff like "I have now officially entered into the tribe of my brotherhood and sisterhood."

But anyway, if she walked with these people carrying these hateful slogans and making racist chants and displaying white nationalist imagery and did not walk away and go home...then I can't say she's a good person. If anything she just seemed like an opportunist looking to get interest in her Youtube channel.
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RickyTheBAWSE
08/31/17 2:54:45 PM
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somebody skipped #46

Antifar posted...
My understanding of BLM is that it doesn't have members. It's not like there are people paying dues to a national organization, it's not even like registering with a political party.


they have chapters that they recruit members through, if I understand their website correctly.
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RickyTheBAWSE
08/31/17 2:55:18 PM
#68:


ImTheMacheteGuy posted...
NINExATExSEVEN posted...
RickyTheBAWSE posted...
@The_Admiral

wearing a t-shirt =/= membership

claiming to support =/= membership

we've had this conversation before and I shut you down for the same reason. you never learn.

one more chance: show me a member saying that. you said "members" in a plural way, but can't even find a singular example? then stop lying.


@RickyTheBAWSE

You see a person walking down the st with an alt-right shirt and supports the alt-right narrative. What is he?


A fucking douchebag

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darkjedilink
08/31/17 3:01:18 PM
#69:


ChromaticAngel posted...
The Admiral posted...
Should Trump address this epidemic of anti-white crime committed by black people now, given that this guy killed 5x as many people as the white supremacist psychopath at Charlottesville?

Yes I'd love to hear him say how some people who say "kill all white people" are very fine people and some of the white guys involved in the murders were part of the bad people on both sides.

Some of the one guy involved in the Charlottesville murder?
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ZMythos
08/31/17 3:04:10 PM
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Sounds like conservatives trying to excuse the nazi that committed murder because a black person did it.
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darkjedilink
08/31/17 3:05:12 PM
#71:


Knowledge_King posted...
The Admiral posted...
Wearing a Black Lives Matter T-shirt

That doesn't make them a part of Black lives matter any more than wearing a band's shirt makes you a part of that band.

By this logic, wearing a swastika armband and doing the Hitler salute doesn't make one a Nazi.
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andel
08/31/17 3:32:48 PM
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ZMythos posted...
Sounds like conservatives trying to excuse the nazi that committed murder because a black person did it.


i am a liberal and both are scum enabled by hate filled rhetoric.
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FrisbeeDude
08/31/17 3:34:07 PM
#73:


darkjedilink posted...
Knowledge_King posted...
The Admiral posted...
Wearing a Black Lives Matter T-shirt

That doesn't make them a part of Black lives matter any more than wearing a band's shirt makes you a part of that band.

By this logic, wearing a swastika armband and doing the Hitler salute doesn't make one a Nazi.


Certainly one would assume that person, at the very least, supported nazis and you have to really hate black people to equate support of BLM to support of nazis
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andel
08/31/17 3:35:54 PM
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RickyTheBAWSE posted...
andel posted...
RickyTheBAWSE posted...
andel posted...
yeah, blm doesnt have 'memberships'. this guy was with blm and committed hate crimes and they get to own it seeing as how they promote that kind of rhetoric


you become a member by joining a chapter... wtf...


irrelevant. obviously he was with them and listened to their hate filled rhetoric, certainly was a factor on why he decided to go kill white people


completely relevant because it was a rebuttal to an unsubstantiated statement. but you saying that despite me clearly responding to somebody's claim is proof that you're disingenuous and will literally say anything at this point.

you make claims that can be easily googled before posting, but you won't. gotta stay ignorant to keep that narrative strong and post count up.


the rebuttal is that he obviously is a blm member, as has been demonstrated. you don't have to be a member of the national socialist party to be a neo nazi just like you dont have to have a card saying you are affiliated with blm to be a member. this guy was undeniably influenced by the hate filled blm rhetoric so they get to shoulder some of the blame here.

no surprise blm is basically another ows, decentralized movement with no clear leadership that have fringe extremists that are welcomed in the club
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3rd_Best_Master
08/31/17 3:38:54 PM
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Are there even any posts in this topic actually talking about the murderer?
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--kresnik--
08/31/17 3:39:59 PM
#76:


This is why we need to take the media back. They are trying to hush this racism up. We have a right to know if this is going on.
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ChromaticAngel
08/31/17 3:41:50 PM
#77:


darkjedilink posted...
ChromaticAngel posted...
The Admiral posted...
Should Trump address this epidemic of anti-white crime committed by black people now, given that this guy killed 5x as many people as the white supremacist psychopath at Charlottesville?

Yes I'd love to hear him say how some people who say "kill all white people" are very fine people and some of the white guys involved in the murders were part of the bad people on both sides.

Some of the one guy involved in the Charlottesville murder?


Only one guy murdered someone. Plenty of people definitely said they wanted to kill others and brought a wide mix of nazi and kkk ideologies to Charlottesville.

Likewise, there is also far more than just one guy shouting out "kill all white people" but only this one person killed people in this particular story.
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Capn Circus
08/31/17 3:50:18 PM
#78:


ChromaticAngel posted...
darkjedilink posted...
ChromaticAngel posted...
The Admiral posted...
Should Trump address this epidemic of anti-white crime committed by black people now, given that this guy killed 5x as many people as the white supremacist psychopath at Charlottesville?

Yes I'd love to hear him say how some people who say "kill all white people" are very fine people and some of the white guys involved in the murders were part of the bad people on both sides.

Some of the one guy involved in the Charlottesville murder?


Only one guy murdered someone. Plenty of people definitely said they wanted to kill others and brought a wide mix of nazi and kkk ideologies to Charlottesville.

Likewise, there is also far more than just one guy shouting out "kill all white people" but only this one person killed people in this particular story.


And only one person killed black people in a church and we all know that was covered extensively.

Next you'll be saying, "well he killed 8.. this guy only killed 5."

The point of this topic is to bring real news to CE and expose the double standards most don't even realize exist because stories like these aren't largely reported.

The rare times they are, they're dropped within a day or two. Not covered for months on end, sometimes even years on end.
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NadYobWoc
08/31/17 5:24:53 PM
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Absolutely awful. Yet another example of the many ways Trump is tearimg this country apart.
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Capn Circus
08/31/17 5:42:55 PM
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CrimsonRage posted...
Capn Circus posted...
And only one person killed black people in a church and we all know that was covered extensively.

Next you'll be saying, "well he killed 8.. this guy only killed 5."

The point of this topic is to bring real news to CE and expose the double standards most don't even realize exist because stories like these aren't largely reported.

The rare times they are, they're dropped within a day or two. Not covered for months on end, sometimes even years on end.


Dylann Roof committed a massacre in a historic black church. This man killed five people within a year. One is "sexier" for the media than the other. Also the Dylann Roof shooting, after photos of him came out, sparked an additional conversation about the Confederate flag (which featured prominently in his pictures) which gave the story longer legs. Lots of white-on-minority violence stories don't get national coverage, they need a specific hook for the media to run with for it to get national attention.


It comes out because they intentionally continue to dig and grow the story themselves. Same with how they always say, "this is becoming a sensation"---well no ****.

They don't spend quality time in black on white violence. As I said, it is never covered to the extent white on black is. And there's simply no excuse for it.
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That_Happened
08/31/17 8:37:14 PM
#82:


Capn Circus posted...
They don't spend quality time in black on white violence. As I said, it is never covered to the extent white on black is. And there's simply no excuse for it.


The excuse would be that it doesn't get ratings. So, why don't you watch the news when they cover this? Why don't your friends? Why don't my friends? Because black people sure tune in when their people get shot.
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apocalyptic_4
08/31/17 8:51:06 PM
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These are the type of topics that get the admiral wet.

You can practically feel the excitement from his posts ready to rant and debate about Liberals and BLM.
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Capn Circus
08/31/17 8:52:51 PM
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That_Happened posted...
Capn Circus posted...
They don't spend quality time in black on white violence. As I said, it is never covered to the extent white on black is. And there's simply no excuse for it.


The excuse would be that it doesn't get ratings. So, why don't you watch the news when they cover this? Why don't your friends? Why don't my friends? Because black people sure tune in when their people get shot.


Black people make up 13% of the population. Even if all of that percentage had cable television or went to CNN.com to actually read articles, that's simply not enough to drastically boost the ratings.

I'm always watching the news, regardless of the story or agenda they want to float with and push at the time. A few of my friends are the same way.

They don't always need specific stories to make the "ratings". It's largely in part in how they craft and frame a story. In many cases they make people interested to tune in---not the other way around.

And if you think your theory is true, you should have no problem with people calling CNN, MSNBC, NY Times, Washington Post, etc. fake news---because if they aren't reporting on all types of stories and only basing coverage on ratings they are deceptive and for entertainment purposes only.
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That_Happened
08/31/17 9:01:25 PM
#85:


Capn Circus posted...


Black people make up 13% of the population. Even if all of that percentage had cable television or went to CNN.com to actually read articles, that's simply not enough to drastically boost the ratings.

I agree. But everybody tunes in for white on black crime stories, especially other white people. That's where the ratings come from. I cannot figure out why we don't care as much when minorities kill us.
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sktgamer_13dude
08/31/17 9:13:28 PM
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That_Happened posted...
Capn Circus posted...


Black people make up 13% of the population. Even if all of that percentage had cable television or went to CNN.com to actually read articles, that's simply not enough to drastically boost the ratings.

I agree. But everybody tunes in for white on black crime stories, especially other white people. That's where the ratings come from. I cannot figure out why we don't care as much when minorities kill us.

Probably cause minorities never owned white people as slaves and white people never had to fight minorities to get basic human rights.
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Capn Circus
08/31/17 9:19:30 PM
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That_Happened posted...
Capn Circus posted...


Black people make up 13% of the population. Even if all of that percentage had cable television or went to CNN.com to actually read articles, that's simply not enough to drastically boost the ratings.

I agree. But everybody tunes in for white on black crime stories, especially other white people. That's where the ratings come from. I cannot figure out why we don't care as much when minorities kill us.


Sure, everyone tunes in. That is largely how they frame and sensationalize various stories. Do you think if they did the same with this story it would just fall flat? There's all sorts of things to go on here that would really drive up ratings, especially among white people.

They can start by having panelists on their show to discuss how this man made racist comments in the past, wanting to kill all white people. They can talk about how he targeted middle aged white men simply out on an evening jog. That should appeal to plenty of white people as well, because it could happen to them too. A racist, waiting to kill them, could be lurking in bushes.

There's all sorts of things they could do to sensationalize this story and run with it for weeks.

But they don't. Barely a peep. With all of the stories NY Times and CNN write, you'd think it would at least get a small article. You know, just to report that 5 people were murdered.

And once again, if it were only because of the ratings, that brings us back to my last point that you didn't address regarding fake news.
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Bishop9800
08/31/17 9:22:53 PM
#88:


So,I see Capn Circus is back with another race baiting topic. Hey, got to make up for that "last mistake" right?
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Capn Circus
08/31/17 9:24:46 PM
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This guy is technically a serial killer. A serial killer who was racist, targeting specifically white males.

And you all want to sit here and tell me NY Times, CNN doesn't even make an article about it? Let alone put it on their show because of "ratings"? Either way, very very fake news.
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Capn Circus
08/31/17 9:25:45 PM
#90:


Bishop9800 posted...
So,I see Capn Circus is back with another race baiting topic. Hey, got to make up for that "last mistake" right?


Ah, hello there.. forgot to tag you. Glad you're still tuning into real news.
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That_Happened
08/31/17 9:26:34 PM
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Capn Circus posted...
And once again, if it were only because of the ratings, that brings us back to my last point that you didn't address regarding fake news.

I always thought the fake news line had less to do with the stories that were covered and more to do with the media dishonestly spinning those stories. And I'm fine with calling out most media outlets when they do that, btw. But Trump thinks any criticism of him is unfair, and he lies so much that I would never take his word, even over the most biased news company.

sktgamer_13dude posted...
Probably cause minorities never owned white people as slaves and white people never had to fight minorities to get basic human rights.


That may have something to do with it. Also, I don't live near too many black people so stories like this don't really scare me. This kind of violence is something I mostly only see on television. But many black people do think they have to worry about white people getting away with killing them.they've seen it happen for generations, and maybe they think it's still a possibility. Doesn't help when the president makes white nationalists feel welcomed.
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Bishop9800
08/31/17 9:39:23 PM
#92:


Capn Circus posted...
Bishop9800 posted...
So,I see Capn Circus is back with another race baiting topic. Hey, got to make up for that "last mistake" right?


Ah, hello there.. forgot to tag you. Glad you're still tuning into real news.


Thank you. I see you're still living up to your race trolling standers.
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Capn Circus
08/31/17 9:45:48 PM
#93:


That_Happened posted...
Capn Circus posted...
And once again, if it were only because of the ratings, that brings us back to my last point that you didn't address regarding fake news.

I always thought the fake news line had less to do with the stories that were covered and more to do with the media dishonestly spinning those stories. And I'm fine with calling out most media outlets when they do that, btw. But Trump thinks any criticism of him is unfair, and he lies so much that I would never take his word, even over the most biased news company.

sktgamer_13dude posted...
Probably cause minorities never owned white people as slaves and white people never had to fight minorities to get basic human rights.


That may have something to do with it. Also, I don't live near too many black people so stories like this don't really scare me. This kind of violence is something I mostly only see on television. But many black people do think they have to worry about white people getting away with killing them.they've seen it happen for generations, and maybe they think it's still a possibility. Doesn't help when the president makes white nationalists feel welcomed.


"Fake News" was a term coined originally by leftist corporations and media, more particularly towards completely made up stories on social media slandering Hillary Clinton (but not so much the fake stories slandering Trump). It became a major talking point for a few days, which was, of course, only a talking point because that's what the media was talking about.

Then it quickly transpired into some sites such as CNN creating "Fake News" lists, which heavily included conservative media outlets---attempting to lump them in with satire websites or fringe websites with literal fake news. This attempt quickly backfired, and they were forced to retract multiple websites.

Then, the term "fake news" was thrown onto them with their heavily biased, dishonest, and spinning of stories and the term won't leave them for quite some time. Trump uses the term quite often, but he isn't the creator or anti-creator, if you will, of the term. This isn't even about Trump, though.

To further address your responses:

I'm sure many white people would feel they had to worry about black people killing them, if the media would sensationalize and cover it more. Make a huge ordeal about it, etc. Given that 60% of people in this country are white, if they truly wanted to boost ratings---they could boost the hell out of them.

But they aren't. And the major mainstream websites such as NY Times, CNN, and WAPO (or televised mainstream) seems to not be even mentioning this story, let alone sensationalizing it.

Don't you find that strange?
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MI4 REAL
08/31/17 9:45:58 PM
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Notice there are only 2 races on this earth. White and Black.

The rest of them are called "heritages"
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Bloodychess
08/31/17 9:49:35 PM
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Capn Circus posted...
How is this hate crime not national news?


Everyone knows why
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Ganon19
08/31/17 9:54:39 PM
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Fake outrage ITT
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3rd_Best_Master
08/31/17 9:54:50 PM
#97:


Bloodychess posted...
Capn Circus posted...
How is this hate crime not national news?


Everyone knows why

Because the media is driven by ratings and white people tend to not give a shit about this sort of thing the way black people do.

It's also pretty funny how a bunch of posters, that usually argue until their blue in the face against the very idea of hate crime designations, suddenly seem to be big proponents of it now.
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That_Happened
08/31/17 9:55:21 PM
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Capn Circus posted...
I'm sure many white people would feel they had to worry about black people killing them, if the media would sensationalize and cover it more. Make a huge ordeal about it, etc. Given that 60% of people in this country are white, if they truly wanted to boost ratings---they could boost the hell out of them.

But they aren't. And the major mainstream websites such as NY Times, CNN, and WAPO (or televised mainstream) seems to not be even mentioning this story, let alone sensationalizing it.

Don't you find that strange?


Well, now that I think about it, let's consider what would happen if the media DID convince us that black people are out to kill us. Because of our strength in numbers, and the amount of us that own guns, I'm pretty sure that would lead to a race war. It doesn't work in reverse though...black people already think we get away with killing them, and aside from a few pockets of crime here and there, they don't have the numbers to overtake us.

So maybe that's why the media don't sensationalize these stories. Because we make up the majority of the country, we can become an actual threat. Minorities are not.
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Bishop9800
08/31/17 9:58:16 PM
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I'm sure many white people would feel they had to worry about black people killing them, if the media would sensationalize and cover it more. Make a huge ordeal about it, etc.



wow. you really want that do you?
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3rd_Best_Master
08/31/17 10:02:00 PM
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Bishop9800 posted...

I'm sure many white people would feel they had to worry about black people killing them, if the media would sensationalize and cover it more. Make a huge ordeal about it, etc.



wow. you really want that do you?

Of course he does. He's a race-baiting troll.
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