Current Events > "Kill all white people": Suspect arrested for killing 5 white men.

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That_Happened posted...

Capn Circus posted...

I'm sure many white people would feel they had to worry about black people killing them, if the media would sensationalize and cover it more. Make a huge ordeal about it, etc. Given that 60% of people in this country are white, if they truly wanted to boost ratings---they could boost the hell out of them.

But they aren't. And the major mainstream websites such as NY Times, CNN, and WAPO (or televised mainstream) seems to not be even mentioning this story, let alone sensationalizing it.

Don't you find that strange?

Well, now that I think about it, let's consider what would happen if the media DID convince us that black people are out to kill us. Because of our strength in numbers, and the amount of us that own guns, I'm pretty sure that would lead to a race war. It doesn't work in reverse though...black people already think we get away with killing them, and aside from a few pockets of crime here and there, they don't have the numbers to overtake us.

So maybe that's why the media don't sensationalize these stories. Because we make up the majority of the country, we can become an actual threat. Minorities are not.

So, why does this mean they need to intentionally sensationalize white on black crime? We've already seen the excessive coverage and sensationalism leads to riots and partially burnt cities. And that's just recent examples within the past few, short years.

It seems to me that you are starting to abandon your whole "It's only because of ratings" narrative and coming up with an entirely different idea.

Which, I'd like to point out, your "ratings driven" narrative never could fully explain why there isn't even a small article posted on CNN, WAPO or NY Times about this story.

My grievance isn't about sensationalizing. I don't want them to sensationalize either stories. I do, however, think there is an issue when white on black crime IS sensationalized and black on white crime is virtually not even covered or mentioned.

It's not real news if you are intentionally hiding major stories. And, by their standards of covering other crimes, this is a pretty big story.
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Can we just all get together and say that killing people is wrong without it turning into ammunition for figuring out which extremist political agenda is worse?
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Capn Circus posted...

So, why does this mean they need to intentionally sensationalize white on black crime? We've already seen the excessive coverage and sensationalism leads to riots and partially burnt cities. And that's just recent examples within the past few, short years.

It seems to me that you are starting to abandon your whole "It's only because of ratings" narrative and coming up with an entirely different idea.

No, I'm explaining an issue with several answers. I don't defend news sources for sensationalism. I think it's awful. But the ratings do explain it, as does the fact that scaring the majority of the population would cause major, major issues. Most problems don't have just one cause, nor one solution.
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Dragonblade01 posted...

Can we just all get together and say that killing people is wrong without it turning into ammunition for figuring out which extremist political agenda is worse?

I would love that.
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CrimsonRage posted...

It's really sounding like you're upset the media isn't making white people "properly" afraid of black people.

This. You're pathetic, TC.
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That_Happened posted...

Dragonblade01 posted...

Can we just all get together and say that killing people is wrong without it turning into ammunition for figuring out which extremist political agenda is worse?

I would love that.

TC wouldnt
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ShinobiNinjaX posted...

CrimsonRage posted...

It's really sounding like you're upset the media isn't making white people "properly" afraid of black people.

This. You're pathetic, TC.

I post news stories that would otherwise never see the light of day--- and all of a sudden I want the media to make people be overly afraid of black people? Hardly..
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Capn Circus posted...

ShinobiNinjaX posted...

CrimsonRage posted...

It's really sounding like you're upset the media isn't making white people "properly" afraid of black people.

This. You're pathetic, TC.

I post news stories that would otherwise never see the light of day--- and all of a sudden I want the media to make people be overly afraid of black people? Hardly..

No, you're a "race baiter." Anybody can see that
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That_Happened posted...

Capn Circus posted...

So, why does this mean they need to intentionally sensationalize white on black crime? We've already seen the excessive coverage and sensationalism leads to riots and partially burnt cities. And that's just recent examples within the past few, short years.

It seems to me that you are starting to abandon your whole "It's only because of ratings" narrative and coming up with an entirely different idea.

No, I'm explaining an issue with several answers. I don't defend news sources for sensationalism. I think it's awful. But the ratings do explain it, as does the fact that scaring the majority of the population would cause major, major issues. Most problems don't have just one cause, nor one solution.

So, we've pretty much narrowed your broad narrative and your denial of reporting all news down to this:

The news media cares about ratings, but doesn't want to make a majority of the population fear black people, so they intentionally sensationalize white on black crime to gain ratings (and only minor damage to cities occur), all while virtually hiding stories of black on white crime.

I'd call that a very ridiculous balancing act, and utterly fake and disingenuous "news". Despicable, actually.
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Bishop9800 posted...

Capn Circus posted...

ShinobiNinjaX posted...

CrimsonRage posted...

It's really sounding like you're upset the media isn't making white people "properly" afraid of black people.

This. You're pathetic, TC.

I post news stories that would otherwise never see the light of day--- and all of a sudden I want the media to make people be overly afraid of black people? Hardly..

No, you're a "race baiter." Anybody can see that

There's nothing wrong with posting news stories that are neglected and asking questions as to why said stories are neglected, when other stories seem to run rampant for weeks, months, even years.

We've had some good discussions in this topic. I think the general consensus is (or at least should be) that mainstream media is sensationalist and very disingenuous, tip-toeing and hiding things, reporting only the "news" they deem appropriate for the masses.
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Capn Circus posted...

There's nothing wrong with posting news stories that are neglected and asking questions as to why said stories are neglected, when others seem to run rampant for weeks, months, even years.

Translation= There's nothing wrong with me race baiting topics so I can make minorities look bad in the eyes of everyone.
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Bishop9800 posted...

Capn Circus posted...

There's nothing wrong with posting news stories that are neglected and asking questions as to why said stories are neglected, when others seem to run rampant for weeks, months, even years.

Translation= There's nothing wrong with me race baiting topics so I can make minorities look bad in the eyes of everyone.

There is nothing wrong with this topic. It's interesting that this only bothers you about 1% as much as non-violent alt-right protesters. I wonder why that is...
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The Admiral posted...

There is nothing wrong with this topic. It's interesting that this only bothers you about 1% as much as non-violent alt-right protesters. I wonder why that is...

Of course you wouldn't. I mean, we all know how you think. (if you ever do)
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Capn Circus posted...

We've had some good discussions in this topic. I think the general consensus is (or at least should be) that mainstream media is sensationalist and very disingenuous, tip-toeing and hiding things, reporting only the "news" they deem appropriate for the masses.

But you've had that conclusion in your head even before this "discussion". This topic accomplishes nothing and will change nothing.
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Bishop9800 posted...

Capn Circus posted...

There's nothing wrong with posting news stories that are neglected and asking questions as to why said stories are neglected, when others seem to run rampant for weeks, months, even years.

Translation= There's nothing wrong with me race baiting topics so I can make minorities look bad in the eyes of everyone.

You haven't even contributed anything to this topic or given input on the OP.

You have nothing but insults to say, which leads me to believe you support the one-sided coverage and enjoy the narrative they paint. The least you could do is actually admit it.
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Capn Circus posted...

You haven't even contributed anything to this topic or given input on the OP.

You have nothing but insults to say, which leads me to believe you support the one-sided coverage and enjoy the narrative they paint. The least you could do is actually admit it.

All you post is race baiting topics, which make everybody to believe you're a racist. The least you could do is actually admit it.
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The Admiral posted...

Bishop9800 posted...

Capn Circus posted...

There's nothing wrong with posting news stories that are neglected and asking questions as to why said stories are neglected, when others seem to run rampant for weeks, months, even years.

Translation= There's nothing wrong with me race baiting topics so I can make minorities look bad in the eyes of everyone.

There is nothing wrong with this topic.

It's TC's agenda and intent that is the issue. You can't be this dense...
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ShinobiNinjaX posted...

It's TC's agenda and intent that is the issue. You can't be this dense...

It's Admiral. He is
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Capn Circus posted...

while virtually hiding stories of black on white crime.

They reported on the black sniper who killed the white cops last year. They also reported the black guy who killed those two news employees. I'd say the news doesn't hide these stories, but sometimes they do treat them more delicately.
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Bishop9800 posted...

ShinobiNinjaX posted...

It's TC's agenda and intent that is the issue. You can't be this dense...

It's Admiral. He is

Let's take comfort in the fact that he is no longer a Mod.
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That_Happened posted...

Capn Circus posted...

while virtually hiding stories of black on white crime.

They reported on the black sniper who killed the white cops last year. They also reported the black guy who killed those two news employees. I'd say the news doesn't hide these stories, but sometimes they do treat them more delicately.

The first one you mentioned couldn't be avoided. Multiple police were involved in a major shoot out, and killed, during a BLM rally-- which was already being covered.

The second example you give, most people wouldn't even know what you're talking about. I barely remember.

There was a more recent story, an Kori Ali Muhammad, which was briefly covered due to the quick intensity of the shootings, which killed three white men and was racially motivated. You probably don't even remember that one. It was covered, but quickly dropped once the race was determined. No court followups, no nothing... and no one will ever hear about that story again or the outcomes of the eventual conviction.
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fun fact: there are no mainstream Black owned news media outlets.

whatever these networks air on their news stations is for ratings, and the nation's majority can't help but find news regarding minorities too sexy to not weigh in on.

kinda like how the vast majority of these topics on CE aren't for or by minorities. they'll be about minorities and certain ones will participate. but typically these topics become white fragility circlejerks for the usual suspects to come in and go down their list of gripes about PoC.
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The Admiral posted...

Should Trump address this epidemic of anti-white crime committed by black people now, given that this guy killed 5x as many people as the white supremacist psychopath at Charlottesville?

That would be crazy because an incident does not an epidemic make. Meanwhile, extreme non-Islamic right-wingers are the most prolific terrorists in America and said ideologies lead to hundreds of acts of violence per year.
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Damn the media really is fucking up people's perception of reality. We need a law that forces them to report the news as accurately as possible, and punish them for spinning stories.

I believe its safe to say that some of these deaths are on thier hands for manipulating people into hatred.
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This going on and literally all the media is covering is a sarcastic cop talking to a paranoid drunk woman.
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NINExATExSEVEN posted...

Damn the media really is fucking up people's perception of reality. We need a law that forces them to report the news as accurately as possible, and punish them for spinning stories.

>Literally trying to disregard the First Amendment

You do realize the government could and would abuse that law right?
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hockeybub89 posted...

The Admiral posted...

Should Trump address this epidemic of anti-white crime committed by black people now, given that this guy killed 5x as many people as the white supremacist psychopath at Charlottesville?

That would be crazy because an incident does not an epidemic make.

Don't know, it sure sounded like a single incident in Charlottesville was an "epidemic" to you guys. And that violence wasn't premeditated like this, either, it was in response to violent protesters who showed up to antagonize.

Meanwhile, extreme non-Islamic right-wingers are the most prolific terrorists in America and said ideologies lead to hundreds of acts of violence per year.

Nowhere close to "hundreds" of acts per year. In fact, that death toll from right-wing violence in a full year is less than the death toll from black gang violence in a single month in Chicago. That is the only type of epidemic violence we currently have in the U.S.
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There are bad people on both sides. :o
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"Violent protesters who showed up to antagonize"

Lmao
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SageHarpuia posted...

NINExATExSEVEN posted...

Damn the media really is fucking up people's perception of reality. We need a law that forces them to report the news as accurately as possible, and punish them for spinning stories.

>Literally trying to disregard the First Amendment

You do realize the government could and would abuse that law right?

You wouldn't be taking anything away from the first amendment. Just adding a law that keeps mass media news from altering/spinning stories and lying to the public.
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Even I didn't know about this. The article does mention possible mental illness and his own mother attempting to get him help. I don't really think blm had much influence on the guy.

My bad Admiral isn't the tc my mistake.
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NINExATExSEVEN posted...

SageHarpuia posted...

NINExATExSEVEN posted...

Damn the media really is fucking up people's perception of reality. We need a law that forces them to report the news as accurately as possible, and punish them for spinning stories.

>Literally trying to disregard the First Amendment

You do realize the government could and would abuse that law right?

You wouldn't be taking anything away from the first amendment. Just adding a law that keeps mass media news from altering/spinning stories and lying to the public.

Buddy you really haven't thought this idea through.
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That_Happened posted...

NINExATExSEVEN posted...

SageHarpuia posted...

NINExATExSEVEN posted...

Damn the media really is fucking up people's perception of reality. We need a law that forces them to report the news as accurately as possible, and punish them for spinning stories.

>Literally trying to disregard the First Amendment

You do realize the government could and would abuse that law right?

You wouldn't be taking anything away from the first amendment. Just adding a law that keeps mass media news from altering/spinning stories and lying to the public.

Buddy you really haven't thought this idea through.

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At least we have a president that recognizes MSM for what they are and is warning the public.
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Dude did you even read the article?
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[SageHarpuia posted...

That_Happened posted...

NINExATExSEVEN posted...

SageHarpuia posted...

NINExATExSEVEN posted...

Damn the media really is fucking up people's perception of reality. We need a law that forces them to report the news as accurately as possible, and punish them for spinning stories.

>Literally trying to disregard the First Amendment

You do realize the government could and would abuse that law right?

You wouldn't be taking anything away from the first amendment. Just adding a law that keeps mass media news from altering/spinning stories and lying to the public.

Buddy you really haven't thought this idea through.

explain to me why creating a law that ensures that millions of people are receiving accurate non agenda driven news daily is a bad thing?

Are we just going to let them misinform america daily and cause hate?
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NINExATExSEVEN posted...

explain to me why creating a law that ensures that millions of people are receiving accurate non agenda driven news daily is a bad thing?

Because who is defining what is "non agenda driven?" The government themselves? If they were, then there'd be no, or very little, criticism of the government.
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That_Happened posted...

NINExATExSEVEN posted...

explain to me why creating a law that ensures that millions of people are receiving accurate non agenda driven news daily is a bad thing?

Because who is defining what is "non agenda driven?" The government themselves? If they were, then there'd be no, or very little, criticism of the government.

Non agenda driven simply means reporting an incident as it happened. No race baiting, no leaving out key points on purpose, no altering of info to push a false narrative etc.

CrimsonRage posted...

NINExATExSEVEN posted...

Damn the media really is fucking up people's perception of reality. We need a law that forces them to report the news as accurately as possible, and punish them for spinning stories.

I believe its safe to say that some of these deaths are on thier hands for manipulating people into hatred.

Because that wouldn't be abused.

That's the problem with you righties that love strongman solutions. You never think things through.

I'm center left not right wing.
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At the very least, laws should be passed requiring them to announce they do leave out information and they also do not cover certain stories.

Like a warning label on a cigarette packing. Something of the sort.
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Capn Circus posted...

At the very least, laws should be passed requiring them to announce they do leave out information and they also do not cover certain stories.

Like a warning label on a cigarette packing. Something of the sort.

So, 'freedom of the press' shouldn't be a thing to you?
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Capn Circus posted...

At the very least, laws should be passed requiring them to announce they do leave out information and they also do not cover certain stories.

Like a warning label on a cigarette packing. Something of the sort.

Fair enough.
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NINExATExSEVEN posted...

Non agenda driven simply means reporting an incident as it happened. No race baiting, no leaving out key points on purpose, no altering of info to push a false narrative etc.

Trump signs a policy.
That policy affects some aspects of America in a positive way.
It also affects some aspects of America in a negative way.

Are you going to create a division of government that ensures that all press give equal coverage to both sides of this issue? What if there are more negatives than positives? Do the pros and cons still get equal coverage? Further, what if the negatives and positives are just speculation at this point because we haven't seen them in practice? Are they not mentioned at all? You see this is far too complicated.

I agree that the media often sucks, and different companies spin things, and I do wish they were held to a higher standard some way. But you can't expect the government to enforce a "no agenda driven press" because it's just not possible, and especially because the government has an agenda of their own.
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Are we just going to let them misinform america daily and cause hate?

As in the days of Noah.

I would rather be able to publish the truth while others are lying then for others to be able to lie while my rights to tell the truth are diminished.
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SageHarpuia posted...

Are we just going to let them misinform america daily and cause hate?

As in the days of Noah.

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darkjedilink posted...

Capn Circus posted...

At the very least, laws should be passed requiring them to announce they do leave out information and they also do not cover certain stories.

Like a warning label on a cigarette packing. Something of the sort.

So, 'freedom of the press' shouldn't be a thing to you?

They're free to report as they wish. But I believe the people should also be aware of what they are consuming.

If warnings lead them to start accurately covering stories and not ignoring others, I don't see how that's a bad thing.
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Capn Circus posted...

If warnings lead them to start accurately covering stories and not ignoring others,

There are too many things happening in the world to report on everything.
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RickyTheBAWSE posted...

fun fact: there are no mainstream Black owned news media outlets.

whatever these networks air on their news stations is for ratings, and the nation's majority can't help but find news regarding minorities too sexy to not weigh in on.

kinda like how the vast majority of these topics on CE aren't for or by minorities. they'll be about minorities and certain ones will participate. but typically these topics become white fragility circlejerks for the usual suspects to come in and go down their list of gripes about PoC.

Funny how that works.
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ImTheMacheteGuy posted...

SageHarpuia posted...

Are we just going to let them misinform america daily and cause hate?

As in the days of Noah.

??

Noah preached for 100 years about an impending disaster, but God didn't instantly kill anyone who called him a liar. All we can do is say things honestly ourselves, we can't control what other people report. If we could, then they would also try to control us.
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