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KingCrabCake
08/20/17 10:57:40 AM
#51:


Error1355 posted...
KingCrabCake posted...
Error1355 posted...
KingCrabCake posted...
Basically what error is saying...

"We know the system is broken. But we're incompetent and lazy. If you see someone break a violation mark it but dont expect anything to be done"

Yeah lets just have volunteer users re-write the Terms of Use (A legal document that goes through CBS Interactive lawyers) and the GameFAQs Board Etiquette as non-CBS Interactive employees. ;)


Or let's just have consistency. Fucking crazy error.

If i call you stupid....and you call me stupid and only one of us is modded....guess what Sherlock

ITS THE MODS THAT ARE BROKEN NOT THE SYSTEM

Oh wait let me add in a winky face

;)

Or that someone didn't mark both posts. ;)


Nope been proven that it doesnt matter. You guys are incompetent af
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Error1355
08/20/17 10:58:45 AM
#52:


KingCrabCake posted...
Nope been proven that it doesnt matter. You guys are incompetent af

http://issues.error1355.com/
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KingCrabCake
08/20/17 10:59:00 AM
#53:


Wait you're allowed to calll people jackass and an ass but not stupid or fat??

Lmfao ahahahahahha
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KingCrabCake
08/20/17 10:59:49 AM
#54:


Error1355 posted...
KingCrabCake posted...
Nope been proven that it doesnt matter. You guys are incompetent af

http://issues.error1355.com/


I dont click on links from children.
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Twinmold
08/20/17 11:04:14 AM
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Relax the rules even more? Lmao, this site is seriously chasing /v/'s audience? Ugh.
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prettyprincess
08/20/17 11:05:30 AM
#57:


have you tried posting better?
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KingCrabCake
08/20/17 11:06:50 AM
#58:


Twinmold posted...
Relax the rules even more? Lmao, this site is seriously chasing /v/'s audience? Ugh.

Think they want consistency
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cuttin_in_farm
08/20/17 12:06:21 PM
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spikethedevil posted...
Error1355 posted...
kingdrake2 posted...
it's pretty offensive by my standards on here it probably be the same.

If used in a racial context it can be moderated for offensive, yes. Context would have to be used then though.


Believe me the mods don't take context into account when moderating something,


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Mernardi
08/20/17 12:08:48 PM
#61:


https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/400-current-events/75689843/885112431

Is calling someone fatty mod worthy?
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Bio1590
08/20/17 12:11:49 PM
#62:


The guy who threw a bitchfit over people making fun of him for being bald is now trying to insult other people based on supposed appearance?

Loooooooooooooool
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HippopotamusRex
08/20/17 12:35:00 PM
#63:


Shotgunnova posted...
MrResetti posted...
Shotgunnova posted...
ghettoraider81 posted...
Should have called him a f***ing loser then right? Be more consistent and s*** like this won't be asked.
Putting "f***ing" before a tame jab doesn't magically make it more insulting.

Yes it fucking does.
It definitely doesn't. For instance, "f***ing goofball" doesn't suddenly make "goofball" a flame.


I was with you on your first post in here. But you lost me here with a lack of understanding of semantics.

You're entirely missing the point by isolating a sentiment word by word. You aren't looking at the summation of two words, I'm sorry that's not how language works. Words are blocked into phrases. Fucking loser is a flame. This algorithmic approach of using goofball as an example, isolating it and then throwing fucking in front of it to prove a different blocking of words 'fucking loser' isn't a flame is just...entirely off. That's not how the brain builds sentences, and it's certainly not how people process language or react to it.
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KingCrabCake
08/20/17 12:46:54 PM
#64:


Surprised mods didnt close this topic
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ChaoticKnuckles
08/20/17 12:55:59 PM
#65:


Shotgunnova posted...
ghettoraider81 posted...
Should have called him a f***ing loser then right? Be more consistent and s*** like this won't be asked.
Putting "f***ing" before a tame jab doesn't magically make it more insulting.


Wait, so loser is okay but asshole isn't? I was under the impression that personal insults weren't allowed at all, no matter how tame they are. I'm pretty sure I've been modded before for calling someone an idiot.
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jayj350
08/20/17 1:04:01 PM
#66:


The moderators here operate by their own bullshit. Sad, pathetic passive aggressive people. No surprise they do stupid shit.
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AlmasNo1Fan
08/20/17 1:09:20 PM
#67:


HEY! Y'all be nice to Shotty.
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weapon_d00d816
08/20/17 1:24:03 PM
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Should have called him a "shitposter".
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KingCrabCake
08/20/17 1:34:40 PM
#70:


-Gavirulax- posted...
KingCrabCake posted...
Basically what error is saying...

"We know the system is broken. But we're incompetent and lazy. If you see someone break a violation mark it but dont expect anything to be done"


To be fair, no matter what changes to the rules are made, there will always be very vocal people who bitch about it (regardless or not if it's justified or not).


That doesn't mean you acknowledge the obvious flaws and do nothing to fix it.
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YourAlt
08/20/17 1:37:00 PM
#71:


Shotgunnova posted...
ghettoraider81 posted...
Should have called him a f***ing loser then right? Be more consistent and s*** like this won't be asked.
Putting "f***ing" before a tame jab doesn't magically make it more insulting.


Lol, yes it does.
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assassingriskel
08/20/17 2:00:40 PM
#72:


The mods don't even follow the rules
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Dustin1280
08/20/17 2:04:17 PM
#73:


YourAlt posted...
Shotgunnova posted...
ghettoraider81 posted...
Should have called him a f***ing loser then right? Be more consistent and s*** like this won't be asked.
Putting "f***ing" before a tame jab doesn't magically make it more insulting.


Lol, yes it does.

It definitely does.

Goofball
FUCKING Goofball

Nice Guy
FUCKING Nice Guy

Asshole
Fucking Asshole

Idiot
FUCKING Idiot

every single word you put fucking in front of makes it even more insulting.
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AzureAnihilator
08/20/17 2:05:11 PM
#74:


That's fucking ridiculous. I can't fucking stand it, why the fuck would you fucking post all that fucking garbage? What the fuck, man. Fucking fuck.
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Nomadic View
08/20/17 2:06:55 PM
#75:


Bio1590 posted...
The funniest thing to me is that everyone complained for years about the rules being too strict, but the rules becoming more lax is one of the major reasons for the decline of quality of the boards, especially when it comes to discourse.

The obvious bias displayed to older accounts being able to get away with more "just because" doesn't help either.


Purposeful trolling and flaming has become more lax, but posting "offensive" points of view have become more strict.

The trolling and flaming is only enforced if the moderator agrees or disagrees with the sentiments of the statement, not if it's actually a violation or not.
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08/20/17 3:14:47 PM
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ne14a6t9r
08/20/17 3:29:53 PM
#77:


What I'm taking from this topic is that the majority of users that have posted want more phrases/insults/flames moderated.

If the rules become more fleshed out and we moderate more, people get upset as more of their posts get deleted. If the rules are relaxed, users get upset that many posts are left up when user believe they should be deleted. We'll never be able to please everyone.
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KingCrabCake
08/20/17 3:30:43 PM
#78:


sktgamer_13dude posted...
Does KCC do anything besides complain?


Irony
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KingCrabCake
08/20/17 3:31:18 PM
#79:


ne14a6t9r posted...
What I'm taking from this topic is that the majority of users that have posted want more phrases/insults/flames moderated.

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Nooo

We want consistency
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Howl
08/20/17 3:36:09 PM
#80:


Error1355 posted...
It's not hard at all to avoid being moderated for flaming unless you're trying to skirt the line of what is allowed and what isn't.


Maybe that's true for flaming, but what about offensive? There is almost no consistency about this here. It's very easy to post something that's borderline and get modded hard, and see a user post something worse sometimes in the same topic and get no mod at all.
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Johnny_Nutcase
08/20/17 3:43:41 PM
#81:


Glad the rest of you can see that this is bullshit. Except for the mods of course, but what else is new?
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Malcrasternus
08/20/17 4:05:39 PM
#82:


Honestly my only gripe with the system is how "offensive" content or sayings are handled. It's far too muddy as to what is, and isn't okay.
I'm glad that my moderation history is pretty decent save for a sig wipe years ago, but the small moderations here and just make me scratch my head saying, "really?"
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Dragon56
08/20/17 4:05:42 PM
#83:


just tag assholes with "asshole", it works for me
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ghettoraider81
08/20/17 4:29:01 PM
#84:


Howl posted...
Error1355 posted...
It's not hard at all to avoid being moderated for flaming unless you're trying to skirt the line of what is allowed and what isn't.


Maybe that's true for flaming, but what about offensive? There is almost no consistency about this here. It's very easy to post something that's borderline and get modded hard, and see a user post something worse sometimes in the same topic and get no mod at all.



Oh this too. For example:

https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/400-current-events/75689799?jumpto=18#18

How the hell is this still up?

Over 5 hours now. Yet I've seen joke topics no where near this get deleted in minutes.
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Nomadic View
08/20/17 4:47:52 PM
#85:


ne14a6t9r posted...
What I'm taking from this topic is that the majority of users that have posted want more phrases/insults/flames moderated.

If the rules become more fleshed out and we moderate more, people get upset as more of their posts get deleted. If the rules are relaxed, users get upset that many posts are left up when user believe they should be deleted. We'll never be able to please everyone.


Be consistent and give a clear definition of the TOS. This horseshit of "jackass" is allowed because it's a tame insult, but calling someone "stupid" crosses the line is arbitrary and subjective.

Either enforce the rules or don't, just be consistent and well defined on what is and isn't appropriate.

The only consistency is whether or not the violator has the correct political opinion.
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Piersons_Fox
08/20/17 4:57:49 PM
#86:


A few weeks ago there was a topic called "white people are the cause of all the problems in the world." It was up for four hours. It was only taken down when I made a parody topic that was the opposite. That topic lasted less than three minutes, subsequently the original was finally removed too.

It just illustrates the moderation staff's willingness to tolerate bigotry and hatred as long as it's against the right group.
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Kisai
08/20/17 4:59:26 PM
#87:


Shotgunnova posted...
"Why did I get moderated for flaming? All I did was flame someone."

I can't help it if the guy's an asshole.
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ne14a6t9r
08/20/17 5:26:10 PM
#88:


Nomadic View posted...
Be consistent and give a clear definition of the TOS. This horseshit of "jackass" is allowed because it's a tame insult, but calling someone "stupid" crosses the line is arbitrary and subjective.

Out of your examples here, would you consider (n)either/both of those a dig at someones intelligence?
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Nomadic View
08/20/17 5:43:40 PM
#89:


ne14a6t9r posted...
Nomadic View posted...
Be consistent and give a clear definition of the TOS. This horseshit of "jackass" is allowed because it's a tame insult, but calling someone "stupid" crosses the line is arbitrary and subjective.

Out of your examples here, would you consider (n)either/both of those a dig at someones intelligence?


Calling someone "stupid" would more likely be an attack on intelligence than calling someone a "jackass."

However, the "jackass" in mention is still likely to take offense of being called a jackass just as he would if he were called "stupid." Depending on the person he may be more insulted by the former than the latter.

If a knock on someone's intelligence is the arbitrarily line, then it should be conveyed in the TOS that is where flaming is categorized.

The primary issue is there is no clarity or definition as to what does or does not constitute a flame. This type of moderator discretion leads to a wide variety of violations ignored or taken action upon, which in turn leads to disgruntled posters that see things they said get hit, while others doing the same go unanswered.
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Bio1590
08/20/17 6:11:50 PM
#90:


Intent really needs to be taken into it as well, which obviously crosses over in context.

I'd more like to see things that the user is intending to be an insult actually deleted as flaming.

And political shitposting and race baiting need to be way more heavily enforced. If nothing is done about that and the rules become even more lax then this board is going to be sent in a very bad direction.
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ThePWBPoster
08/20/17 6:15:31 PM
#91:


This topic is quite a read I tells ya.

I'm pretty much on the lax side, really if something bothers you just block the user or do whatever you want to you can report the post, if it doesn't get deleted or modded just move on with your day. I know some people however like to 'go hard' and NOT block people and make their version of Gamefaqs rough the way they like it. Okay then, just don't complain about it. Geez...
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Kineth
08/20/17 6:16:24 PM
#92:


Yeah, with the amount of shit that is allowed to be said about race, there really shouldn't be any flaming or trolling moderations anymore. There's just no consistency to explain it.
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Nomadic View
08/20/17 6:21:52 PM
#93:


Bio1590 posted...
Intent really needs to be taken into it as well, which obviously crosses over in context.

I'd more like to see things that the user is intending to be an insult actually deleted as flaming.

And political shitposting and race baiting need to be way more heavily enforced. If nothing is done about that and the rules become even more lax then this board is going to be sent in a very bad direction.


I actually feel the exact opposite about the last paragraph. Political discussion is a great way of expressing opinion and reasoning of an issue if it is presented in a professional and insightful way. Unfortunately, those topics quickly devolve into ad hominems and deflections of the issue rather than actually confronting the points made. That is a fault of those specific posters, not the topic creator.
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Bio1590
08/20/17 6:22:01 PM
#94:


One other thing is that if you're going to make it harder to break the rules then actually breaking the rules needs to be dealt with more harshly. No more of this continual 30-day or 60-day Purgs.

And stop handling older accounts with kid gloves.
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Bio1590
08/20/17 6:24:00 PM
#95:


Nomadic View posted...
Bio1590 posted...
Intent really needs to be taken into it as well, which obviously crosses over in context.

I'd more like to see things that the user is intending to be an insult actually deleted as flaming.

And political shitposting and race baiting need to be way more heavily enforced. If nothing is done about that and the rules become even more lax then this board is going to be sent in a very bad direction.


I actually feel the exact opposite about the last paragraph. Political discussion is a great way of expressing opinion and reasoning of an issue if it presented in a professional and insightful way. Unfortunately, those topics quickly devolve into ad hominems and deflections of the issue rather than actually confronting the points made. That is a fault of those specific posters, not the topic creator.

That is what I mean with political shitposting. Eliminate the problem users.
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ghettoraider81
08/20/17 6:38:16 PM
#96:


Fact is also, this site has an age floor of 13. 13 year olds are allowed to freely post on these boards. Right now on this board on the front page is a topic, "What is the last thing you put in your butt?"

How is that still there almost 7 hours in?

I know someone who posted a topic "I like when my poop is hard enough to scratch a butthole itch". It was deleted for offensive real quick. Yet this one is still there, and yes it has been marked.

No consistency at all.
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Johnny_Nutcase
08/20/17 6:41:47 PM
#97:


ghettoraider81 posted...

I know someone who posted a topic "I like when my poop is hard enough to scratch a butthole itch". It was deleted for offensive real quick. .


HAHA that's a funny topic title. Anyway, HOW is that offensive!?!?!?!? Also, the damn 13 year olds are the most obnoxious ones on here, raise the ceiling to 16 or 17 bare minimum and you'll have a better world to live in.
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Bio1590
08/21/17 12:13:01 AM
#99:


-Gavirulax- posted...
Bio1590 posted...
One other thing is that if you're going to make it harder to break the rules then actually breaking the rules needs to be dealt with more harshly. No more of this continual 30-day or 60-day Purgs.

And stop handling older accounts with kid gloves.


120 and 180 day purges actually stay on people's history forever, however the problem is they're rarely given out (or as you say, someone can receive a whole succession of 30/60/90 day ones and never reach 120 and wait for said ones to drop off their history).

Is it visible in your history to you as well? I can never remember how long my Purg was but if 90 clears but 120 doesn't then it was 90.

And yeah it's just ridiculous to see users basically be put on Purg for the majority of 2 years until they're finally banned. And accounts like TerraGhaleon which is now "Locked" but should have been banned ages ago.
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