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Questionmarktarius
08/20/17 2:01:05 AM
#51:


So... the development focus is on microtransaction-fed multiplayer parts now?
Who's surprised by this, really?
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Bloodychess
08/20/17 2:38:56 AM
#52:


Terra-enforcer posted...
Not meeting expectations =/= flop


That's pretty much exactly what it means
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bulletproofvita
08/20/17 2:50:09 AM
#53:


SSJGrimReaper posted...
tfw your game flopped


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CADE FOSTER
08/20/17 2:57:25 AM
#54:


Andromeda was great i liked it was really looking forward to the quarian ark dlc
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LittleRoyal
08/20/17 2:58:32 AM
#55:


@Banana_Cyanide posted...
Nothing short of an entire franchise reboot can save Mass Effect now.

So like, make the first game not canon? The first game was good though.


Or just do a remake of ME1?

What's exactly a reboot?
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Banana_Cyanide
08/20/17 3:21:28 AM
#56:


LittleRoyal posted...
So like, make the first game not canon? The first game was good though.


Or just do a remake of ME1?

What's exactly a reboot?

Andromeda was an attempt to make the series go somewhere after the cluster fuck that was the third games ending. Now that Andromeda is an even worse cluster fuck there's no where to take the series anymore. It's a dead franchise now and a reboot is the only way to do anything anymore.
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EternalDivide
08/20/17 5:47:18 AM
#57:


The bridge burning with fans that ME3's ending was.
Having your D squad of developers handle a AAA flagship title.
The plethora of technical problems that resulted from that.
The SJW nonsense going on.
An actual racist on the dev team.

This trash got what it deserved. It's heartening to see the general gaming community has a limit as to what they will tolerate and this crossed it and then some.

Everything and everyone that Bioware is at the moment needs to be gone before these things will change. And seeing how they just brought back A number 1 fuckwit Casey Hudson as the general manager of all of Bioware (the ass singularly responsible for ME3's bs ending) it's going to be a long time.
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New_User0001
08/20/17 5:57:30 AM
#58:


Nomadic View posted...
This is the result of diversity hire just for the sake of diversity instead of simply hiring the most qualified candidate.


you got bumped from your mathletes team by a black kid didn't you?
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Sephiroth1288
08/20/17 6:02:48 AM
#59:


Another beloved franchise killed by EA.
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Jswift254
08/20/17 6:19:02 AM
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I only play the multiplayer so im glad to hear that they will still be introducing new content
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megATOMOS
08/20/17 8:22:20 AM
#61:


1) Make an entry in a beloved sci-fi series that made buttloads of cash
2) Completely rush the process and release it without finishing it to save money
3) Kill the series

Bioware you guys are geniuses
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Funkydog
08/20/17 8:23:46 AM
#62:


megATOMOS posted...
1) Make an entry in a beloved sci-fi series that made buttloads of cash
2) Completely rush the process and release it without finishing it to save money
3) Kill the series

Bioware you guys are geniuses

I mean, that is EA's mantra, no?
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apolloooo
08/20/17 8:26:57 AM
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Delirious_Beard posted...
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Hexenherz
08/20/17 8:30:54 AM
#64:


DreadedWave posted...
Another amazing franchise killed by EA.

lol if you think this was EA's fault.
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Hexenherz
08/20/17 8:31:49 AM
#65:


Jswift254 posted...
I only play the multiplayer so im glad to hear that they will still be introducing new content


Our last update, 1.10, was the final update for Mass Effect: Andromeda. There are no planned future patches for single-player or in-game story content.
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fusespliff
08/20/17 8:38:53 AM
#66:


Hexenherz posted...
Jswift254 posted...
I only play the multiplayer so im glad to hear that they will still be introducing new content


Our last update, 1.10, was the final update for Mass Effect: Andromeda. There are no planned future patches for single-player or in-game story content.


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LittleRoyal
08/20/17 12:30:54 PM
#67:


Banana_Cyanide posted...
LittleRoyal posted...
So like, make the first game not canon? The first game was good though.


Or just do a remake of ME1?

What's exactly a reboot?

Andromeda was an attempt to make the series go somewhere after the cluster fuck that was the third games ending. Now that Andromeda is an even worse cluster fuck there's no where to take the series anymore. It's a dead franchise now and a reboot is the only way to do anything anymore.

But what's a reboot vs a remake
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Banana_Cyanide
08/20/17 1:08:39 PM
#68:


LittleRoyal posted...
But what's a reboot vs a remake

A remake is the same thing with new paint. A reboot is the same thing but completely renovated.
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LittleRoyal
08/20/17 2:15:46 PM
#69:


ME did the first major game I played with canonically female protagonist (because they made statues for Shepard and they're all girls and when making new game character it assumes you're female Shepard)
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RebelElite791
08/20/17 2:16:25 PM
#70:


Topic title is more than a little disingenuous.
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DarthAragorn
08/20/17 2:20:40 PM
#71:


LittleRoyal posted...
ME did the first major game I played with canonically female protagonist (because they made statues for Shepard and they're all girls and when making new game character it assumes you're female Shepard)

what

the trilogy was marketed with male shep only for the first two games, then still primarily male shep for me3
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LittleRoyal
08/20/17 2:24:11 PM
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DarthAragorn posted...
LittleRoyal posted...
ME did the first major game I played with canonically female protagonist (because they made statues for Shepard and they're all girls and when making new game character it assumes you're female Shepard)

what

the trilogy was marketed with male shep only for the first two games, then still primarily male shep for me3

Yes but
Bioware gave employees statues of Shepard if they worked there 10 years and it's female only.

In interviews the manager of Bioware referred to Shepard exclusively as "she"

I've seen vids online and 80% are female.

I feel you make a charavter in Andromeda it asks if Shepard was male or female but if you don't answer it'll default to female. (Unless you press QuickStart. Customization defaults to female QuickStart defaults to male since nobody uses QuickStart)
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Ivynn
08/20/17 5:35:49 PM
#73:


DreadedWave posted...
Another amazing franchise killed by EA.

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UnfairRepresent
08/20/17 5:37:44 PM
#74:


As a Mass Effect fan I am sad the series died with a whimper.


But as a realist, what they were expecting? Following up 3 great games with a mediocre one

brotrrwinner posted...
Is the game worth playing in it's current state?

Yes
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Banana_Cyanide
08/20/17 5:40:37 PM
#75:


For the last time EA didn't do this. This falls squarely on BioWare and no one else.

and as much as I hate Casey Hudson him returning is an improvement compared to what they had before.
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bulletproofvita
08/20/17 5:42:15 PM
#76:


I'm commander Shepard and Andromeda killed the series
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Monkhood
08/20/17 6:05:40 PM
#77:


bulletproofvita posted...
I'm commander Shepard and Andromeda killed the series

lol
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NibeIungsnarf
08/20/17 6:05:59 PM
#78:


Banana_Cyanide posted...
For the last time EA didn't do this. This falls squarely on BioWare and no one else.

and as much as I hate Casey Hudson him returning is an improvement compared to what they had before.

For the last time (not really) this is stupid. Of course EA had a hand in it. Bioware didn't release the game in a broken state and charge 60 dollars for it.

Assumedly Bioware also didn't make the choice to focus so hugely on a freemium-economy based multiplayer mode to pull in them microtransaction money instead of improving on and optimizing the singleplayer.

Who even decided there should be a Mass Effect 4? I don't know but if I had to guess I'd say... not Bioware.
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Darmik
08/20/17 6:18:30 PM
#79:


megATOMOS posted...
1) Make an entry in a beloved sci-fi series that made buttloads of cash
2) Completely rush the process and release it without finishing it to save money
3) Kill the series

Bioware you guys are geniuses


EA gave Bioware a new studio and gave them a chance to work on this game. They had like 4 years to work on it and it didn't work out. There was nothing rushed about it.

NibeIungsnarf posted...
For the last time (not really) this is stupid. Of course EA had a hand in it. Bioware didn't release the game in a broken state and charge 60 dollars for it.


It seems like the game was like a year behind schedule. It needed to come out eventually. If it was released now it would still be an average game.
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CADE FOSTER
08/20/17 6:22:16 PM
#80:


Funkydog posted...
megATOMOS posted...
1) Make an entry in a beloved sci-fi series that made buttloads of cash
2) Completely rush the process and release it without finishing it to save money
3) Kill the series

Bioware you guys are geniuses

I mean, that is EA's mantra, no?

5 years after mass effect 3 which was 2 years after mass effect 2 rushing ehh
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YellowSUV
08/20/17 6:22:43 PM
#81:


It was a really dumb move in hindsight to give a flagship title to a division of the company that only worked on creating Mass Effect 3's multiplayer.
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Funkydog
08/20/17 6:25:14 PM
#82:


YellowSUV posted...
It was a really dumb move in hindsight to give a flagship title to a division of the company that only worked on creating Mass Effect 3's multiplayer.

Basically.

The whole development of the game was a disaster - it changed repeatedly, leaving them with making what they did in a year as they did new/different things. They really needed better oversight/structure and to not have it dumped on a studio ill equipped to handle a game like ME.
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CADE FOSTER
08/20/17 6:26:12 PM
#83:


YellowSUV posted...
It was a really dumb move in hindsight to give a flagship title to a division of the company that only worked on creating Mass Effect 3's multiplayer.

Should have farmed it out to a good developer instead of a shitty one
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Ivynn
08/20/17 6:27:51 PM
#84:


YellowSUV posted...
It was a really dumb move in hindsight to give a flagship title to a division of the company that only worked on creating Mass Effect 3's multiplayer.


EA was only interested in a new Mass Effect as a cash grab and nothing else. :\
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Darmik
08/20/17 6:31:18 PM
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CADE FOSTER posted...
YellowSUV posted...
It was a really dumb move in hindsight to give a flagship title to a division of the company that only worked on creating Mass Effect 3's multiplayer.

Should have farmed it out to a good developer instead of a shitty one


A good developer wouldn't want scraps from another company. It was either this or nothing. Turns out we got this and then nothing.
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LordTrinen
08/20/17 6:31:30 PM
#86:


All hope for DLC has been killed. All we can do now is pray that a new game is still on the horizon. Distant horizon maybe but still on the horizon.
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Funkydog
08/20/17 6:32:35 PM
#87:


LordTrinen posted...
All hope for DLC has been killed. All we can do now is pray that a new game is still on the horizon. Distant horizon maybe but still on the horizon.

From Bioware?

Several games on the horizon.
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Ivynn
08/20/17 6:33:37 PM
#88:


Funkydog posted...
LordTrinen posted...
All hope for DLC has been killed. All we can do now is pray that a new game is still on the horizon. Distant horizon maybe but still on the horizon.

From Bioware?

Several games on the horizon.


Anthem and Dragon Age 4 at the very least.
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dave_is_slick
08/20/17 6:42:59 PM
#89:


Ivynn posted...
Dragon Age 4 at the very least.

If you had told me that I'd be way more hyped for Dragon Age than Mass Effect a few years back, I'd think you'd have lost your damn mind.
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BeautifulBlaze
08/20/17 6:49:20 PM
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Shotgunnova
08/20/17 7:56:59 PM
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BeautifulBlaze posted...
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megATOMOS
08/20/17 10:30:55 PM
#92:


Darmik posted...
megATOMOS posted...
1) Make an entry in a beloved sci-fi series that made buttloads of cash
2) Completely rush the process and release it without finishing it to save money
3) Kill the series

Bioware you guys are geniuses


EA gave Bioware a new studio and gave them a chance to work on this game. They had like 4 years to work on it and it didn't work out. There was nothing rushed about it.

It was 5 years; and it is definitely rushed (literally all of the asari have the same face c'mon), there's plenty of info out there detailing how they couldn't decide on a story and gameplay far into the development process and forced to rush the last year and half of development

https://www.polygon.com/2017/6/7/15757558/mass-effect-andromeda-development-problems
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2017-06-07-mass-effect-andromeda-development-issues-detailed-in-new-report
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Darmik
08/20/17 10:32:23 PM
#93:


megATOMOS posted...
Darmik posted...
megATOMOS posted...
1) Make an entry in a beloved sci-fi series that made buttloads of cash
2) Completely rush the process and release it without finishing it to save money
3) Kill the series

Bioware you guys are geniuses


EA gave Bioware a new studio and gave them a chance to work on this game. They had like 4 years to work on it and it didn't work out. There was nothing rushed about it.

It was 5 years; and it is definitely rushed (literally all of the asari have the same face c'mon), there's plenty of info out there detailing how they couldn't decide on a story and gameplay far into the development process and forced to rush the last year and half of development

https://www.polygon.com/2017/6/7/15757558/mass-effect-andromeda-development-problems
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2017-06-07-mass-effect-andromeda-development-issues-detailed-in-new-report


It's rushed in the sense that they had to make up for a wasted three years of development but that doesn't change that they had plenty of time to make the game.
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NibeIungsnarf
08/20/17 10:35:49 PM
#94:


It also doesnt change that the game was releashed in an unfinished state, making the release rushed.

Same with FFXV even though it had 10 years (not really, but whatever) of development.

And again, if you are going to release a broken game, charging 60 dollars for it is just unacceptable.
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dave_is_slick
08/21/17 2:08:52 AM
#95:


Darmik posted...
It's rushed in the sense that they had to make up for a wasted three years of development but that doesn't change that they had plenty of time to make the game.

If you have plenty of time but don't do shit for the majority of that time, you're rushing.
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DarthAragorn
08/21/17 2:10:53 AM
#96:


dave_is_slick posted...
Darmik posted...
It's rushed in the sense that they had to make up for a wasted three years of development but that doesn't change that they had plenty of time to make the game.

If you have plenty of time but don't do shit for the majority of that time, you're rushing.

Yes, but it shifts the blame to the developer instead of the publisher.
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Darmik
08/21/17 4:14:25 AM
#97:


dave_is_slick posted...
Darmik posted...
It's rushed in the sense that they had to make up for a wasted three years of development but that doesn't change that they had plenty of time to make the game.

If you have plenty of time but don't do shit for the majority of that time, you're rushing.


They did a lot but had to scrap almost all of it. The game had development issues the whole way through.
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Tryhaptaward
08/22/17 12:31:46 AM
#98:


Lol, and meanwhile No Man's Sky is still out there with updates trying their asses off
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Darmik
08/22/17 12:41:50 AM
#99:


Funnily enough the initial pitch for Andromeda was basically No Man's Sky.

The structure of the game is inherently flawed now and no amount of patching could make it a great game. No Man's Sky at least had a barebones foundation to build on.
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Syntheticon
08/22/17 2:21:34 AM
#100:


Yaridovich posted...
I haven't played the game, but does the female Ryder really look like a fourteen year old girl? Or have I just seen nothing but bad pictures?

I don't know about a 14yo girl but she looks pretty messed up a lot of the time and poorly animated everywhere else, but that's kind of all the characters.
They dropped the ball on this one in a lot of ways unfortunately.
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