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Ammonitida
08/19/17 2:28:14 PM
#152:


A neo-Nazi rally for a South Asian man as senator?

https://twitter.com/va_shiva/status/898956356870328320
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tremain07
08/19/17 2:29:03 PM
#153:


Antifar posted...
Beautiful

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DHmmqV5XkAAxPJI.jpg

Weapons, hiding faces,blocking the road, dear mother of god it's an Anifa trifecta, the only thing we need now is a riot and an unprovoked attack on law enforcement and it's liberal bingo
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ThyCorndog
08/19/17 2:30:47 PM
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Ruvan22
08/19/17 2:31:17 PM
#155:


thompsontalker7 posted...
CircleOfManias posted...
Ammonitida posted...
Zodd3224 posted...


You seem pretty tolerant... of one side


I'm tolerant of conservatives exercising their right to rally without being harassed by deranged leftists who believe anyone who isn't a leftist is a "Nazi". Correct.


Counterprotesting isn't a violation of free speech. The whole point of freedom of speech is that it applies to everyone. You have the right to be an asshole, but don't get indignant when people exercise their right to call you one.


Counterprotesting is just a catalyst for violence. Charlottesville showed that off the best.


Really? I can think of lots of times counterprotesting helped silence hateful messages.. why are you so intent on painting it "just a catalyst"?
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_RETS_
08/19/17 2:31:36 PM
#156:


Is antifa going to show up at any opposing protest now calling people Nazis whether or not the protest has anything to do with that shit? In general
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hockeybub89
08/19/17 2:32:11 PM
#157:


tremain07 posted...
Antifar posted...
Beautiful

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DHmmqV5XkAAxPJI.jpg

Weapons, hiding faces,blocking the road, dear mother of god it's an Anifa trifecta, the only thing we need now is a riot and an unprovoked attack on law enforcement and it's liberal bingo

There's like 2 people there with bandanas and what weapons? And whoever heard of a massive protest being in the road? Madness.
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ThyCorndog
08/19/17 2:32:34 PM
#158:


counterprotesting fascists and racists is important
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hockeybub89
08/19/17 2:33:22 PM
#159:


Ruvan22 posted...
thompsontalker7 posted...
CircleOfManias posted...
Ammonitida posted...
Zodd3224 posted...


You seem pretty tolerant... of one side


I'm tolerant of conservatives exercising their right to rally without being harassed by deranged leftists who believe anyone who isn't a leftist is a "Nazi". Correct.


Counterprotesting isn't a violation of free speech. The whole point of freedom of speech is that it applies to everyone. You have the right to be an asshole, but don't get indignant when people exercise their right to call you one.


Counterprotesting is just a catalyst for violence. Charlottesville showed that off the best.


Really? I can think of lots of times counterprotesting helped silence hateful messages.. why are you so intent on painting it "just a catalyst"?

Don't you know white supremacists will just quietly go away if we let them preach their pacifist message in peace?
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Ammonitida
08/19/17 2:34:28 PM
#160:


_RETS_ posted...
Is antifa going to show up at any opposing protest now calling people Nazis whether or not the protest has anything to do with that shit? In general


I'm not seeing any evidence that neo-Nazis or anything like that attended this rally in any significant numbers. The organizer is sketchy, but not as extreme as say Anne Coulter or Paul Watson from what I can tell. Some were there to support a South Asian candidate for senator. Totally not Neo-Nazi.
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thronedfire2
08/19/17 2:35:08 PM
#161:


I'm pretty sure carrying torches and rifles and doing nazi salutes and chanting antisemitic shit was the catalyst for violence in Charlottesville
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ItsYourFault
08/19/17 2:36:26 PM
#163:


thronedfire2 posted...
I'm pretty sure carrying torches and rifles and doing nazi salutes and chanting antisemitic shit was the catalyst for violence in Charlottesville

dont bother. he's just another southern racism apologist
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ScazarMeltex
08/19/17 2:38:45 PM
#164:


thronedfire2 posted...
I'm pretty sure carrying torches and rifles and doing nazi salutes and chanting antisemitic shit was the catalyst for violence in Charlottesville


No they are good people, just ask El Presidente,.
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Ammonitida
08/19/17 2:42:11 PM
#165:


ScazarMeltex posted...
thronedfire2 posted...
I'm pretty sure carrying torches and rifles and doing nazi salutes and chanting antisemitic shit was the catalyst for violence in Charlottesville


No they are good people, just ask El Presidente,.


Shame on Nieto for that!
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TheVipaGTS
08/19/17 2:50:29 PM
#166:


"Look at all our guns! *waves nazi flag* *hateful chants*"...."wtf guys we just wanna be peaceful!"
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jayj350
08/19/17 2:52:15 PM
#167:


thronedfire2 posted...
It's my weekend off and I wanted to have dinner in the city tonight

Fucking nazis ruin everything

To be fair, that is what they are known for.
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jayj350
08/19/17 2:53:43 PM
#168:


TheVipaGTS posted...
"Look at all our guns! *waves nazi flag* *hateful chants*"...."wtf guys we just wanna be peaceful!"

Yeah at a certain point, when a "protest" becomes a hate rally for a group of nazi's, I think it's time to stop calling them peaceful and recognize them for the organized threat to the public that they are.
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KingCrabCake
08/19/17 2:53:57 PM
#169:


Wait @Antifar you're pro - antifa?
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nableet
08/19/17 3:04:37 PM
#170:


The problem I have is the narrative is now that those that go to the free speech rallies are all nazis/alt-right etc. This is not the case.

No one is going to want to turn up in support of free speech just to be labelled a nazi.
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TheVipaGTS
08/19/17 3:08:15 PM
#171:


nableet posted...
The problem I have is the narrative is now that those that go to the free speech rallies are all nazis/alt-right etc. This is not the case.

No one is going to want to turn up in support of free speech just to be labelled a nazi.

"Free speech" isn't being challenged at all. It's just a group of people who want to say hateful things and don't understand that there may be consequences for what they say. They think freedom of speech means they can yell those hateful chants without repercussion on a personal or professional level. That isn't the case. No one is throwing you in jail for waving a flag with a swastika on it. You might lose your job or the respect of those around you though. Welcome to consequences for your actions. Welcome to being an adult who is held accountable.
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Antifar
08/19/17 3:11:09 PM
#172:


nableet posted...
No one is going to want to turn up in support of free speech just to be labelled a nazi.

I think you have this backwards; Nazis are using the cover of a "free speech rally" that, for all intents and purposes, is just an outlet for their hateful bullshit.
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TheBiggerWiggle
08/19/17 3:17:33 PM
#173:


So have an nazis had the life beaten out of them yet? That's all I'm waiting on.
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DarthAragorn
08/19/17 3:18:22 PM
#174:


TheBiggerWiggle posted...
So have an nazis had the life beaten out of them yet? That's all I'm waiting on.

You're hoping for murder. Classy.
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Ammonitida
08/19/17 3:20:57 PM
#175:


TheBiggerWiggle posted...
So have an nazis had the life beaten out of them yet? That's all I'm waiting on.

Yeah.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/neo-nazi-converts-islam-kills-roommates-disrespecting-article-1.3186361
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SquantoZ
08/19/17 3:25:13 PM
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Mr_MacPhisto
08/19/17 3:27:32 PM
#177:


YourAlt posted...
The "violent left" is literally only a few people who like to get into street fights.

Ban this dishonest, trolling clown already.
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_RETS_
08/19/17 3:29:12 PM
#178:


ScazarMeltex posted...
thronedfire2 posted...
I'm pretty sure carrying torches and rifles and doing nazi salutes and chanting antisemitic shit was the catalyst for violence in Charlottesville


No they are good people, just ask El Presidente,.


You have to realize this undercuts the legitimate points you have.

In the exact same statement that Trump said there were fine people there, he singled out and specifically and "totally" condemned the white nationalists, supremacists, and neo-nazis.

Him being under the mistaken impression that there were others there besides them points to him being uninformed and simply wrong, which he very often is. It does not point to him willfully defending Nazis, who again, he singled out in that same statement for total condemnation.

To suggest otherwise is you being either willfully or ignorantly dishonest.

This doesn't change any of the other many errors in judgment he made last week, but there is no point to be made on this particular thing outside of his typical uninformed rhetoric.
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Paper_Okami
08/19/17 3:29:19 PM
#179:


https://twitter.com/JackSmithIV/status/898972346756812802


"violent left"
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Antifar
08/19/17 3:35:17 PM
#180:


KingCrabCake posted...
Wait @Antifar you're pro - antifa?

I support a diversity of tactics, and generally I think those willing to engage in physical conflict make room for those who shy away from it.

Anyways, the President has chimed in with his usual...
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DHnbUP0XoAEIYkV.jpg
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__Cam__
08/19/17 3:35:31 PM
#181:


Not that I'm against the counter-protesters, but I always get a chuckle out of how a sweeping majority of them are often Whites from nearly all-White suburban communities, or all-White gentrified neighborhoods.
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Ruvan22
08/19/17 3:41:40 PM
#182:


_RETS_ posted...
ScazarMeltex posted...
thronedfire2 posted...
I'm pretty sure carrying torches and rifles and doing nazi salutes and chanting antisemitic shit was the catalyst for violence in Charlottesville


No they are good people, just ask El Presidente,.


You have to realize this undercuts the legitimate points you have.

In the exact same statement that Trump said there were fine people there, he singled out and specifically and "totally" condemned the white nationalists, supremacists, and neo-nazis.

Him being under the mistaken impression that there were others there besides them points to him being uninformed and simply wrong, which he very often is. It does not point to him willfully defending Nazis, who again, he singled out in that same statement for total condemnation.

To suggest otherwise is you being either willfully or ignorantly dishonest.

This doesn't change any of the other many errors in judgment he made last week, but there is no point to be made on this particular thing outside of his typical uninformed rhetoric.


But I thought he took great care to know the facts (His own words) before making the second statement?
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jayj350
08/19/17 3:43:22 PM
#183:


DarthAragorn posted...
TheBiggerWiggle posted...
So have an nazis had the life beaten out of them yet? That's all I'm waiting on.

You're hoping for murder. Classy.

There is nothing classy about being a Nazi.
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_RETS_
08/19/17 3:44:01 PM
#184:


Ruvan22 posted...
_RETS_ posted...
ScazarMeltex posted...
thronedfire2 posted...
I'm pretty sure carrying torches and rifles and doing nazi salutes and chanting antisemitic shit was the catalyst for violence in Charlottesville


No they are good people, just ask El Presidente,.


You have to realize this undercuts the legitimate points you have.

In the exact same statement that Trump said there were fine people there, he singled out and specifically and "totally" condemned the white nationalists, supremacists, and neo-nazis.

Him being under the mistaken impression that there were others there besides them points to him being uninformed and simply wrong, which he very often is. It does not point to him willfully defending Nazis, who again, he singled out in that same statement for total condemnation.

To suggest otherwise is you being either willfully or ignorantly dishonest.

This doesn't change any of the other many errors in judgment he made last week, but there is no point to be made on this particular thing outside of his typical uninformed rhetoric.


But I thought he took great care to know the facts (His own words) before making the second statement?


Yes, which again points to his stupidity and misinformation through his babbling rhetoric, not his willful defense of Nazis.
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jayj350
08/19/17 3:45:17 PM
#185:


Mr_MacPhisto posted...
YourAlt posted...
The "violent left" is literally only a few people who like to get into street fights.

Ban this dishonest, trolling clown already.

There is no organized violent left group, but there is organized violent alt-right groups.
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DarthAragorn
08/19/17 3:46:10 PM
#186:


jayj350 posted...
DarthAragorn posted...
TheBiggerWiggle posted...
So have an nazis had the life beaten out of them yet? That's all I'm waiting on.

You're hoping for murder. Classy.

There is nothing classy about being a Nazi.

Didn't say there was.
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ThePrinceFish
08/19/17 4:11:23 PM
#187:


Boston police had to put out a bulletin asking counter-protesters to not throw bottles of urine at the police lmao
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KingCrabCake
08/19/17 4:13:08 PM
#188:


Antifar posted...
KingCrabCake posted...
Wait @Antifar you're pro - antifa?

I support a diversity of tactics, and generally I think those willing to engage in physical conflict make room for those who shy away from it.



So
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Yes?
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That_Happened
08/19/17 4:20:48 PM
#189:


__Cam__ posted...
Not that I'm against the counter-protesters, but I always get a chuckle out of how a sweeping majority of them are often Whites from nearly all-White suburban communities, or all-White gentrified neighborhoods.

It's good that they are. With some exceptions here and there, white supremacists aren't often going to listen to minorities. But maybe other white people can convince them.
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Suchomimus
08/19/17 4:20:53 PM
#190:


Antifa is pro-commie?
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TheVipaGTS
08/19/17 4:24:13 PM
#191:


Suchomimus posted...
Antifa is pro-commie?

No. "they're communist!" Is just something people on the right like to shout at those who disagree with them.
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Suchomimus
08/19/17 4:26:03 PM
#192:


TheVipaGTS posted...
Suchomimus posted...
Antifa is pro-commie?

No. "they're communist!" Is just something people on the right like to shout at those who disagree with them.


They're literally carrying anti-capitalist banners.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DHmmqV5XkAAxPJI.jpg
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DarthAragorn
08/19/17 4:26:13 PM
#193:


TheVipaGTS posted...
Suchomimus posted...
Antifa is pro-commie?

No. "they're communist!" Is just something people on the right like to shout at those who disagree with them.

Does that giant sign in the pic antifar posted at the top of this page not say end capitalism? The end is cut off, but I'm not sure what else it would say
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Antifar
08/19/17 4:27:00 PM
#194:


KingCrabCake posted...
Yes?

Yeah
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Antifar
08/19/17 4:27:53 PM
#195:


DarthAragorn posted...
Does that giant sign in the pic antifar posted at the top of this page not say end capitalism? The end is cut off, but I'm not sure what else it would say

It does, but that banner is from the DSA, not antifa. I doubt most antifa folks would disagree, but they aren't all communist.
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Antifar
08/19/17 4:28:26 PM
#196:


Suchomimus posted...
They're literally carrying anti-capitalist banners.

You can be anti-capitalist and not communist; anarchists would fall under that.
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thompsontalker7
08/19/17 4:34:05 PM
#198:


__Cam__ posted...
Not that I'm against the counter-protesters, but I always get a chuckle out of how a sweeping majority of them are often Whites from nearly all-White suburban communities, or all-White gentrified neighborhoods.


Who else has the time and resources to show up at these events?
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Suchomimus
08/19/17 4:36:35 PM
#199:


Antifar posted...
Suchomimus posted...
They're literally carrying anti-capitalist banners.

You can be anti-capitalist and not communist; anarchists would fall under that.


So anarchy then. Great. :)
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Ruvan22
08/19/17 4:38:09 PM
#200:


_RETS_ posted...
Ruvan22 posted...
_RETS_ posted...
ScazarMeltex posted...
thronedfire2 posted...
I'm pretty sure carrying torches and rifles and doing nazi salutes and chanting antisemitic shit was the catalyst for violence in Charlottesville


No they are good people, just ask El Presidente,.


You have to realize this undercuts the legitimate points you have.

In the exact same statement that Trump said there were fine people there, he singled out and specifically and "totally" condemned the white nationalists, supremacists, and neo-nazis.

Him being under the mistaken impression that there were others there besides them points to him being uninformed and simply wrong, which he very often is. It does not point to him willfully defending Nazis, who again, he singled out in that same statement for total condemnation.

To suggest otherwise is you being either willfully or ignorantly dishonest.

This doesn't change any of the other many errors in judgment he made last week, but there is no point to be made on this particular thing outside of his typical uninformed rhetoric.


But I thought he took great care to know the facts (His own words) before making the second statement?


Yes, which again points to his stupidity and misinformation through his babbling rhetoric, not his willful defense of Nazis.


If the pattern of his misinformation always seems to bring out biased statements, then after a while it seems that the bias is first and the misconstruction of facts comes second.
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_RETS_
08/19/17 4:43:04 PM
#201:


Ruvan22 posted...
_RETS_ posted...
Ruvan22 posted...
_RETS_ posted...
ScazarMeltex posted...
thronedfire2 posted...
I'm pretty sure carrying torches and rifles and doing nazi salutes and chanting antisemitic shit was the catalyst for violence in Charlottesville


No they are good people, just ask El Presidente,.


You have to realize this undercuts the legitimate points you have.

In the exact same statement that Trump said there were fine people there, he singled out and specifically and "totally" condemned the white nationalists, supremacists, and neo-nazis.

Him being under the mistaken impression that there were others there besides them points to him being uninformed and simply wrong, which he very often is. It does not point to him willfully defending Nazis, who again, he singled out in that same statement for total condemnation.

To suggest otherwise is you being either willfully or ignorantly dishonest.

This doesn't change any of the other many errors in judgment he made last week, but there is no point to be made on this particular thing outside of his typical uninformed rhetoric.


But I thought he took great care to know the facts (His own words) before making the second statement?


Yes, which again points to his stupidity and misinformation through his babbling rhetoric, not his willful defense of Nazis.


If the pattern of his misinformation always seems to bring out biased statements, then after a while it seems that the bias is first and the misconstruction of facts comes second.


It wasn't biased. He said there were fine people on both sides. He was just wrong about there being fine people there on the right that weren't apart of the neo-nazis.
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