Current Events > Should statues of Native Americans who fought against Americans be removed?

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hollow_shrine 08/18/17 9:28:35 AM #53:	Always with the false equivalences. --- https://i.imgtc.com/zyQ3oRW.jpg 15 Transwomen of color have been murdered since 1/1/2017 <cite>hollow_shrine posted [p:884998186] in Should sta... [t:75683232]...</cite> <quote>Always with the false equivalences.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The Admiral 08/18/17 9:30:01 AM #54:	ooger posted... ssj3vegeta_ posted... Why does admiral hate non white people iyo Because he's a knuckle dragging, Dumpy Trumpy loving, racist. This guy literally is not smart enough to respond to comments that hurt his feelings without getting modded. --- - The Admiral <cite>The Admiral posted [p:884998243] in Should sta... [t:75683232]...</cite> <quote><cite>ooger posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ssj3vegeta_ posted...</cite> <quote>Why does admiral hate non white people iyo</quote> Because he's a knuckle dragging, Dumpy Trumpy loving, racist.</quote> This guy literally is not smart enough to respond to comments that hurt his feelings without getting modded.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
K181 08/18/17 9:30:43 AM #55:	Yeah, damn Yankees for attacking Fort Sumter and starting the war wait... --- The poster formerly known as Kakarot181: July 2, 2002 - March 14, 2012. Irregardless, for all intensive purposes, I could care less. <cite>K181 posted [p:884998274] in Should sta... [t:75683232]...</cite> <quote>Yeah, damn Yankees for attacking Fort Sumter and starting the war wait...</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lorenzo_2003 08/18/17 9:32:19 AM #56:	Zero_Destroyer posted... Native American situation: Europeans (generations later, Americans) invade and progressively genocide and stomp out native population: Native population fought back where they could, violently so. Civil War: Confederacy attempted to save its economically lucrative slave trade by splitting from the U.S., caused entire conflict over their perceived right to own people. not comparable at all I admire the native people's efforts in trying to keep migrating settlers out of their lands. It doesn't change the fact that those settlers and their descendents established a new government and new nation. Honoring the native leaders and other warriors through statues and other monuments is honoring enemy combatants of that new nation, which is now the US. That is a fact. Does that mean their statues should be taken down? I personally don't think so. I prefer to keep history publicly visible, even though there are a bunch of people (even here on CE) who basically said that statues don't mean much since you can just learn history from a book. I guess they changed their mind. --- ... <cite>Lorenzo_2003 posted [p:884998333] in Should sta... [t:75683232]...</cite> <quote><cite>Zero_Destroyer posted...</cite> <quote> Native American situation: Europeans (generations later, Americans) invade and progressively genocide and stomp out native population: Native population fought back where they could, violently so. Civil War: Confederacy attempted to save its economically lucrative slave trade by splitting from the U.S., caused entire conflict over their perceived right to own people. not comparable at all</quote> I admire the native people's efforts in trying to keep migrating settlers out of their lands. It doesn't change the fact that those settlers and their descendents established a new government and new nation. Honoring the native leaders and other warriors through statues and other monuments is honoring enemy combatants of that new nation, which is now the US. That is a fact. Does that mean their statues should be taken down? I personally don't think so. I prefer to keep history publicly visible, even though there are a bunch of people (even here on CE) who basically said that statues don't mean much since you can just learn history from a book. I guess they changed their mind.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CanuckCowboy 08/18/17 9:34:33 AM #57:	littlebro07 posted... pegusus123456 posted... Doom_Art posted... Fighting us because we occupied their land is not the same as seceding to create a treasonous slave state. This and if you serious needed it pointed out it explains how you can support trump. --- "I got a rollatruc, look." <cite>CanuckCowboy posted [p:884998423] in Should sta... [t:75683232]...</cite> <quote><cite>littlebro07 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>pegusus123456 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Doom_Art posted...</cite> <quote>Fighting us because we occupied their land is not the same as seceding to create a treasonous slave state.</quote></quote></quote> This and if you serious needed it pointed out it explains how you can support trump.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AlternativeFAQS 08/18/17 9:35:05 AM #58:	The Admiral posted... The north was the aggressor in the Civil War. Things dumbass trump supporters say <cite>AlternativeFAQS posted [p:884998449] in Should sta... [t:75683232]...</cite> <quote><cite>The Admiral posted...</cite> <quote>The north was the aggressor in the Civil War. </quote> Things dumbass trump supporters say</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CanuckCowboy 08/18/17 9:35:10 AM #59:	Lorenzo_2003 posted... Zero_Destroyer posted... Native American situation: Europeans (generations later, Americans) invade and progressively genocide and stomp out native population: Native population fought back where they could, violently so. Civil War: Confederacy attempted to save its economically lucrative slave trade by splitting from the U.S., caused entire conflict over their perceived right to own people. not comparable at all I admire the native people's efforts in trying to keep migrating settlers out of their lands. It doesn't change the fact that those settlers and their descendents established a new government and new nation. Honoring the native leaders and other warriors through statues and other monuments is honoring enemy combatants of that new nation, which is now the US. That is a fact. Does that mean their statues should be taken down? I personally don't think so. I prefer to keep history publicly visible, even though there are a bunch of people (even here on CE) who basically said that statues don't mean much since you can just learn history from a book. I guess they changed their mind. Wow. That's almost unbelievably stupid. Even for ce. --- "I got a rollatruc, look." <cite>CanuckCowboy posted [p:884998453] in Should sta... [t:75683232]...</cite> <quote><cite>Lorenzo_2003 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Zero_Destroyer posted...</cite> <quote> Native American situation: Europeans (generations later, Americans) invade and progressively genocide and stomp out native population: Native population fought back where they could, violently so. Civil War: Confederacy attempted to save its economically lucrative slave trade by splitting from the U.S., caused entire conflict over their perceived right to own people. not comparable at all</quote> I admire the native people's efforts in trying to keep migrating settlers out of their lands. It doesn't change the fact that those settlers and their descendents established a new government and new nation. Honoring the native leaders and other warriors through statues and other monuments is honoring enemy combatants of that new nation, which is now the US. That is a fact. Does that mean their statues should be taken down? I personally don't think so. I prefer to keep history publicly visible, even though there are a bunch of people (even here on CE) who basically said that statues don't mean much since you can just learn history from a book. I guess they changed their mind.</quote> Wow. That's almost unbelievably stupid. Even for ce.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ooger 08/18/17 9:36:08 AM #60:	The Admiral posted... ooger posted... ssj3vegeta_ posted... Why does admiral hate non white people iyo Because he's a knuckle dragging, Dumpy Trumpy loving, racist. This guy literally is not smart enough to respond to comments that hurt his feelings without getting modded. Whatever you say, knuckle dragger. You should really wear a bib. You are getting drool all over the place. --- "ooger is not a man, he's a phenomenon." - Helpall <cite>ooger posted [p:884998489] in Should sta... [t:75683232]...</cite> <quote><cite>The Admiral posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ooger posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ssj3vegeta_ posted...</cite> <quote>Why does admiral hate non white people iyo</quote> Because he's a knuckle dragging, Dumpy Trumpy loving, racist.</quote> This guy literally is not smart enough to respond to comments that hurt his feelings without getting modded.</quote> Whatever you say, knuckle dragger. You should really wear a bib. You are getting drool all over the place.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FrisbeeDude 08/18/17 9:37:57 AM #61:	Addy really went "The war of northern aggression" route lmao --- No one gets in the way of my frisbee games! NO ONE! <cite>FrisbeeDude posted [p:884998561] in Should sta... [t:75683232]...</cite> <quote>Addy really went "The war of northern aggression" route lmao</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The Admiral 08/18/17 9:38:03 AM #62:	That_Happened posted... but when a black man in Detroit was wrongly arrested for carrying a rifle as part of an "open-carry protest" Admiral said, You keep crying about this post in every topic without providing the actual quote. Either screencap it, or stop being a fucking baby and derailing conversations because I upset you years ago. --- - The Admiral <cite>The Admiral posted [p:884998570] in Should sta... [t:75683232]...</cite> <quote><cite>That_Happened posted...</cite> <quote>but when a black man in Detroit was wrongly arrested for carrying a rifle as part of an "open-carry protest" Admiral said, </quote> You keep crying about this post in every topic without providing the actual quote. Either screencap it, or stop being a fucking baby and derailing conversations because I upset you years ago.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
That_Happened 08/18/17 9:38:13 AM #63:	The Admiral posted... The north was the aggressor in the Civil War. South Carolina pre-emptively seceded before Lincoln was even inaugurated, encouraged other states to join them in rebellion, attacked Fort Sumter (after which Virginia joined in and said no one was going to oppress their slaveholders), and then they refused Lincoln's offer to go back to congress and work things out. So no, the North was not the aggressor in the Civil war. --- http://fusionanomaly.net/magnoliabutitdidhappen.jpg <cite>That_Happened posted [p:884998579] in Should sta... [t:75683232]...</cite> <quote><cite>The Admiral posted...</cite> <quote>The north was the aggressor in the Civil War. </quote> South Carolina pre-emptively seceded before Lincoln was even inaugurated, encouraged other states to join them in rebellion, attacked Fort Sumter (after which Virginia joined in and said no one was going to oppress their slaveholders), and then they refused Lincoln's offer to go back to congress and work things out. So no, the North was not the aggressor in the Civil war.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
rookieplayer03 08/18/17 9:38:16 AM #64:	The posts in this topic responding sound just as crazy. Because someone is indifferent or condemns both sides means they're racist? Is that really the best response? I'll be honest, the reasonings for both sides is what makes me believe both the left and right is the problem. --- Princes are born. Kings are made. https://gfycat.com/BowedGrimAddax <cite>rookieplayer03 posted [p:884998584] in Should sta... [t:75683232]...</cite> <quote>The posts in this topic responding sound just as crazy. Because someone is indifferent or condemns both sides means they're racist? Is that really the best response? I'll be honest, the reasonings for both sides is what makes me believe both the left and right is the problem.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The Admiral 08/18/17 9:39:03 AM #65:	ooger posted... The Admiral posted... ooger posted... ssj3vegeta_ posted... Why does admiral hate non white people iyo Because he's a knuckle dragging, Dumpy Trumpy loving, racist. This guy literally is not smart enough to respond to comments that hurt his feelings without getting modded. Whatever you say, knuckle dragger. You should really wear a bib. You are getting drool all over the place. I'm really hurt by this given the mental functioning you seem to display in your posting. --- - The Admiral <cite>The Admiral posted [p:884998617] in Should sta... [t:75683232]...</cite> <quote><cite>ooger posted...</cite> <quote><cite>The Admiral posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ooger posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ssj3vegeta_ posted...</cite> <quote>Why does admiral hate non white people iyo</quote> Because he's a knuckle dragging, Dumpy Trumpy loving, racist.</quote> This guy literally is not smart enough to respond to comments that hurt his feelings without getting modded.</quote> Whatever you say, knuckle dragger. You should really wear a bib. You are getting drool all over the place.</quote> I'm really hurt by this given the mental functioning you seem to display in your posting.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Zodd3224 08/18/17 9:39:23 AM #67:	The Admiral posted... Horus_Leftfield posted... Why is Admiral still allowed to come here... Like why isn't he IP banned by now. Do the admins give him special treatment or something. New User User Since: Aug 2017 Irony. apocalyptic_4 posted... Someone should screenshot his posts. He contradicts himself and outright denies it ever happening. Feel free. Much preferred over you guys having to make stuff up all the time. Doom_Art posted... Fighting us because we occupied their land is not the same as seceding to create a treasonous slave state. The north was the aggressor in the Civil War. Both the Native Americans and the South were responding to being attacked on their home soil. In both cases the aggressor wanted rights over the land it was attacking. But keep mindlessly quoting this. LoL --- http://t.qkme.me/3v9zte.jpg <cite>Zodd3224 posted [p:884998628] in Should sta... [t:75683232]...</cite> <quote><cite>The Admiral posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Horus_Leftfield posted...</cite> <quote>Why is Admiral still allowed to come here... Like why isn't he IP banned by now. Do the admins give him special treatment or something.</quote> New User User Since: Aug 2017 Irony. <cite>apocalyptic_4 posted...</cite> <quote>Someone should screenshot his posts. He contradicts himself and outright denies it ever happening.</quote> Feel free. Much preferred over you guys having to make stuff up all the time. <cite>Doom_Art posted...</cite> <quote>Fighting us because we occupied their land is not the same as seceding to create a treasonous slave state.</quote> The north was the aggressor in the Civil War. Both the Native Americans and the South were responding to being attacked on their home soil. In both cases the aggressor wanted rights over the land it was attacking. But keep mindlessly quoting this.</quote> LoL</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lorenzo_2003 08/18/17 9:39:42 AM #68:	CanuckCowboy posted... Lorenzo_2003 posted... Zero_Destroyer posted... Native American situation: Europeans (generations later, Americans) invade and progressively genocide and stomp out native population: Native population fought back where they could, violently so. Civil War: Confederacy attempted to save its economically lucrative slave trade by splitting from the U.S., caused entire conflict over their perceived right to own people. not comparable at all I admire the native people's efforts in trying to keep migrating settlers out of their lands. It doesn't change the fact that those settlers and their descendents established a new government and new nation. Honoring the native leaders and other warriors through statues and other monuments is honoring enemy combatants of that new nation, which is now the US. That is a fact. Does that mean their statues should be taken down? I personally don't think so. I prefer to keep history publicly visible, even though there are a bunch of people (even here on CE) who basically said that statues don't mean much since you can just learn history from a book. I guess they changed their mind. Wow. That's almost unbelievably stupid. Even for ce. Are you really from Canada? Your government has its own issues with First Nations tribes, from what I've read. How is that working out? Are they getting their country back any time soon? --- ... <cite>Lorenzo_2003 posted [p:884998645] in Should sta... [t:75683232]...</cite> <quote><cite>CanuckCowboy posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Lorenzo_2003 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Zero_Destroyer posted...</cite> <quote> Native American situation: Europeans (generations later, Americans) invade and progressively genocide and stomp out native population: Native population fought back where they could, violently so. Civil War: Confederacy attempted to save its economically lucrative slave trade by splitting from the U.S., caused entire conflict over their perceived right to own people. not comparable at all</quote> I admire the native people's efforts in trying to keep migrating settlers out of their lands. It doesn't change the fact that those settlers and their descendents established a new government and new nation. Honoring the native leaders and other warriors through statues and other monuments is honoring enemy combatants of that new nation, which is now the US. That is a fact. Does that mean their statues should be taken down? I personally don't think so. I prefer to keep history publicly visible, even though there are a bunch of people (even here on CE) who basically said that statues don't mean much since you can just learn history from a book. I guess they changed their mind.</quote> Wow. That's almost unbelievably stupid. Even for ce.</quote> Are you really from Canada? Your government has its own issues with First Nations tribes, from what I've read. How is that working out? Are they getting their country back any time soon?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
That_Happened 08/18/17 9:40:28 AM #69:	The Admiral posted... That_Happened posted... but when a black man in Detroit was wrongly arrested for carrying a rifle as part of an "open-carry protest" Admiral said, You keep crying about this post in every topic without providing the actual quote. Either screencap it, or stop being a fucking baby and derailing conversations because I upset you years ago. I wasn't even here years ago, I just had a feeling I'd find you contradicting yourself if I looked it up. And I did screencap it. I was advised to take it down because apparently you mark people who screencap your quotes. But if people want to see it themselves, all you have to do is google Admiral faqs "incredibly threatening." The Admiral posted... I have no idea why people need to be carrying around assault weapons openly like that. It's incredibly threatening to other people, and I can guarantee it's just being done so that these impotent losers can feel powerful. That IS the direct quote. Eat it, hypocrite. --- http://fusionanomaly.net/magnoliabutitdidhappen.jpg <cite>That_Happened posted [p:884998675] in Should sta... [t:75683232]...</cite> <quote><cite>The Admiral posted...</cite> <quote><cite>That_Happened posted...</cite> <quote>but when a black man in Detroit was wrongly arrested for carrying a rifle as part of an "open-carry protest" Admiral said, </quote> You keep crying about this post in every topic without providing the actual quote. Either screencap it, or stop being a fucking baby and derailing conversations because I upset you years ago.</quote> I wasn't even here years ago, I just had a feeling I'd find you contradicting yourself if I looked it up. And I did screencap it. I was advised to take it down because apparently you mark people who screencap your quotes. But if people want to see it themselves, all you have to do is google Admiral faqs "incredibly threatening." <cite>The Admiral posted...</cite> <quote> I have no idea why people need to be carrying around assault weapons openly like that. It's incredibly threatening to other people, and I can guarantee it's just being done so that these impotent losers can feel powerful. </quote> That IS the direct quote. Eat it, hypocrite.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Villain 08/18/17 9:40:42 AM #70:	Doom_Art posted... Fighting us because we occupied their land is not the same as seceding to create a treasonous slave state. Topic should have ended with this post --- http://i.imgur.com/ZWNgMXL.jpg Formally known as Will VIIII Game Discounts + Deals: http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/1205-discounts-and-deals <cite>Villain posted [p:884998682] in Should sta... [t:75683232]...</cite> <quote><cite>Doom_Art posted...</cite> <quote>Fighting us because we occupied their land is not the same as seceding to create a treasonous slave state.</quote> Topic should have ended with this post</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ooger 08/18/17 9:42:50 AM #71:	The Admiral posted... ooger posted... The Admiral posted... ooger posted... ssj3vegeta_ posted... Why does admiral hate non white people iyo Because he's a knuckle dragging, Dumpy Trumpy loving, racist. This guy literally is not smart enough to respond to comments that hurt his feelings without getting modded. Whatever you say, knuckle dragger. You should really wear a bib. You are getting drool all over the place. I'm really hurt by this given the mental functioning you seem to display in your posting. Whatever helps you sleep at night, knuckle dragger. How did that healthcare bill go? Did it pass? How's that wall coming? Has Mexico paid for it yet? What a rube you are. --- "ooger is not a man, he's a phenomenon." - Helpall <cite>ooger posted [p:884998778] in Should sta... [t:75683232]...</cite> <quote><cite>The Admiral posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ooger posted...</cite> <quote><cite>The Admiral posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ooger posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ssj3vegeta_ posted...</cite> <quote>Why does admiral hate non white people iyo</quote> Because he's a knuckle dragging, Dumpy Trumpy loving, racist.</quote> This guy literally is not smart enough to respond to comments that hurt his feelings without getting modded.</quote> Whatever you say, knuckle dragger. You should really wear a bib. You are getting drool all over the place.</quote> I'm really hurt by this given the mental functioning you seem to display in your posting.</quote> Whatever helps you sleep at night, knuckle dragger. How did that healthcare bill go? Did it pass? How's that wall coming? Has Mexico paid for it yet? What a rube you are.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
thanosibe 08/18/17 9:44:07 AM #72:	Asherlee10 posted... I wonder if the opposite of this would be logically conclusive? I realize Admiral didn't quite arrive at a sound conclusion with this post, but the notion is still open for discussion. Do we have any monuments in the U.S. that are of the men who came to America and fought the Natives? Would Native Americans have a leg to stand on if the requested those statues be removed? As a poster asked me earlier this week when I gave an honest answer to the OP instead of shit posting; do you remember where you are posting? ;-) I've never been to a reservation here in Oklahoma but maybe that's where they are if they exist. I vaguely remember a Native American statue downtown Oklahoma City. And we have a Native American Heritage Museum as well as the Cowboy Heritage Museum as well. So Native Americans are celebrated here in Oklahoma. Now who/what funded these I am ignorant of. --- I think I need a drink. Almost everybody does only they don't know it. -- Charles Bukowski <cite>thanosibe posted [p:884998832] in Should sta... [t:75683232]...</cite> <quote><cite>Asherlee10 posted...</cite> <quote>I wonder if the opposite of this would be logically conclusive? I realize Admiral didn't quite arrive at a sound conclusion with this post, but the notion is still open for discussion. Do we have any monuments in the U.S. that are of the men who came to America and fought the Natives? Would Native Americans have a leg to stand on if the requested those statues be removed?</quote>As a poster asked me earlier this week when I gave an honest answer to the OP instead of shit posting; do you remember where you are posting? ;-) I've never been to a reservation here in Oklahoma but maybe that's where they are if they exist. I vaguely remember a Native American statue downtown Oklahoma City. And we have a Native American Heritage Museum as well as the Cowboy Heritage Museum as well. So Native Americans are celebrated here in Oklahoma. Now who/what funded these I am ignorant of.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CanuckCowboy 08/18/17 9:44:31 AM #73:	Lorenzo_2003 posted... Are you really from Canada? Your government has its own issues with First Nations tribes, from what I've read. How is that working out? Are they getting their country back any time soon? Yes. Yes. What does that have to do with this topic or anything I said in it? --- "I got a rollatruc, look." <cite>CanuckCowboy posted [p:884998852] in Should sta... [t:75683232]...</cite> <quote><cite>Lorenzo_2003 posted...</cite> <quote> Are you really from Canada? Your government has its own issues with First Nations tribes, from what I've read. How is that working out? Are they getting their country back any time soon?</quote> Yes. Yes. What does that have to do with this topic or anything I said in it?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The Admiral 08/18/17 9:44:34 AM #74:	That_Happened posted... That IS the direct quote. Eat it, hypocrite. Actually, here is the direct quote, drama queen. Literally leaving out the exact part I added so that ignoramuses who have a hard time with comprehension wouldn't cry racism and think it had to do with the guy being black. Now maybe you can stop embarrassing yourself with this irrelevant quote from 2015, especially since you weren't even here and just proved you can't comprehend more than one sentence at a time. --- - The Admiral <cite>The Admiral posted [p:884998853] in Should sta... [t:75683232]...</cite> <quote><cite>That_Happened posted...</cite> <quote> That IS the direct quote. Eat it, hypocrite.</quote> Actually, here is the direct quote, drama queen. Literally leaving out the exact part I added so that ignoramuses who have a hard time with comprehension wouldn't cry racism and think it had to do with the guy being black. Now maybe you can stop embarrassing yourself with this irrelevant quote from 2015, especially since you weren't even here and just proved you can't comprehend more than one sentence at a time.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
rookieplayer03 08/18/17 9:47:11 AM #75:	Asherlee10 posted... rookieplayer03 posted... The posts in this topic responding sound just as crazy. Because someone is indifferent or condemns both sides means they're racist? Is that really the best response? I'll be honest, the reasonings for both sides is what makes me believe both the left and right is the problem. Both sides in this discussion? Yup --- Princes are born. Kings are made. https://gfycat.com/BowedGrimAddax <cite>rookieplayer03 posted [p:884998968] in Should sta... [t:75683232]...</cite> <quote><cite>Asherlee10 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>rookieplayer03 posted...</cite> <quote>The posts in this topic responding sound just as crazy. Because someone is indifferent or condemns both sides means they're racist? Is that really the best response? I'll be honest, the reasonings for both sides is what makes me believe both the left and right is the problem.</quote> Both sides in this discussion?</quote> Yup</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The Admiral 08/18/17 9:47:33 AM #76:	ooger posted... How did that healthcare bill go? Did it pass? How's that wall coming? Has Mexico paid for it yet? I was against both of those, so I appreciate you being kind enough to confirm my posts about your mental functioning. --- - The Admiral <cite>The Admiral posted [p:884998984] in Should sta... [t:75683232]...</cite> <quote><cite>ooger posted...</cite> <quote> How did that healthcare bill go? Did it pass? How's that wall coming? Has Mexico paid for it yet?</quote> I was against both of those, so I appreciate you being kind enough to confirm my posts about your mental functioning.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
JlM 08/18/17 9:50:37 AM #77:	2017 and people still bother responding to Admiral. Lmao. Never change, CE, never change. --- I guess I'm something of a ne'er do well. Pittsburgh <cite>JlM posted [p:884999122] in Should sta... [t:75683232]...</cite> <quote>2017 and people still bother responding to Admiral. Lmao. Never change, CE, never change.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
That_Happened 08/18/17 9:51:29 AM #78:	The Admiral posted... Actually, here is the direct quote, drama queen. Literally leaving out the exact part I added so that ignoramuses who can't read more than one sentence wouldn't cry racism and think it had to do with the guy being black. Yet with the Charlottesville neo-Nazis it actually was white people carrying assault weapons. But you didn't call them "threatening" or "impotent losers." You said they "acted civily and had permits." So the whole "before anyone starts attacking I'll say white people do this too" was just you trying to avoid criticism. --- http://fusionanomaly.net/magnoliabutitdidhappen.jpg <cite>That_Happened posted [p:884999160] in Should sta... [t:75683232]...</cite> <quote><cite>The Admiral posted...</cite> <quote>Actually, here is the direct quote, drama queen. Literally leaving out the exact part I added so that ignoramuses who can't read more than one sentence wouldn't cry racism and think it had to do with the guy being black.</quote> Yet with the Charlottesville neo-Nazis it actually was white people carrying assault weapons. But you didn't call them "threatening" or "impotent losers." You said they "acted civily and had permits." So the whole "before anyone starts attacking I'll say white people do this too" was just you trying to avoid criticism.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Bluebomber182 08/18/17 9:51:46 AM #79:	jfc addy really thinks the north was the aggressor. lrn2history ffs --- WWE Champ The Maharaja Jinder Mahal YOU CAN'T HINDER THE JINDER!!!!! <cite>Bluebomber182 posted [p:884999178] in Should sta... [t:75683232]...</cite> <quote>jfc addy really thinks the north was the aggressor. lrn2history ffs</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
anth0ny 08/18/17 9:52:18 AM #80:	bump --- moo <cite>anth0ny posted [p:884999200] in Should sta... [t:75683232]...</cite> <quote>bump</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ooger 08/18/17 9:54:55 AM #81:	The Admiral posted... ooger posted... How did that healthcare bill go? Did it pass? How's that wall coming? Has Mexico paid for it yet? I was against both of those, so I appreciate you being kind enough to confirm my posts about your mental functioning. Yeah, we bet. Sure you were, knuckle dragger. --- "ooger is not a man, he's a phenomenon." - Helpall <cite>ooger posted [p:884999315] in Should sta... [t:75683232]...</cite> <quote><cite>The Admiral posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ooger posted...</cite> <quote> How did that healthcare bill go? Did it pass? How's that wall coming? Has Mexico paid for it yet?</quote> I was against both of those, so I appreciate you being kind enough to confirm my posts about your mental functioning.</quote> Yeah, we bet. Sure you were, knuckle dragger.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zero_Destroyer 08/18/17 9:59:21 AM #82:	addy pls --- Enjoy movies and television? Check out my blog! I do reviews and analyses. http://fictionrantreview.wordpress.com/ (The Force Awakens spoiler review up!) <cite>Zero_Destroyer posted [p:884999506] in Should sta... [t:75683232]...</cite> <quote>addy pls</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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CapnMuffin 08/18/17 10:25:03 AM #84:	Yikes. Takes quite a stretch to defend this by equivocating with Native American history. I mean, by nature, we can rely on the right to be leery of the so called slippery slope. But that rhetoric is way overplayed to the point of absurdity like we have here... --- "its okay a lizard ate me and elucidated my fate" - MJ_Max on Dark Souls 3DSFC : 0860-3930-2170 \| NNID : CapnMuffin \| XBGT : Capn Muffin <cite>CapnMuffin posted [p:885000646] in Should sta... [t:75683232]...</cite> <quote>Yikes. Takes quite a stretch to defend this by equivocating with Native American history. I mean, by nature, we can rely on the right to be leery of the so called slippery slope. But that rhetoric is way overplayed to the point of absurdity like we have here...</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Foppe 08/18/17 10:27:19 AM #85:	Doom_Art posted... Fighting us because we occupied their land is not the same as seceding to create a treasonous slave state. What happen if we look at it from the views of the native Americans? Promises of letting them keep their land were constantly broken by Europeans that created a treasonous slave state. ...it doesnt count because it was native African slaves? Between 1670 and 1715, more native Americans were exported into slavery through Charles Town than Africans were imported. Does that mean that we should destroy all statues of George Washington because it represent an offensive time for the native Americans that have been whitewashed into only black slaves were used? --- GameFAQs isn't going to be merged in with GameSpot or any other site. We're not going to strip out the soul of the site. -CJayC <cite>Foppe posted [p:885000751] in Should sta... [t:75683232]...</cite> <quote><cite>Doom_Art posted...</cite> <quote>Fighting us because we occupied their land is not the same as seceding to create a treasonous slave state.</quote> What happen if we look at it from the views of the native Americans? Promises of letting them keep their land were constantly broken by Europeans that created a treasonous slave state. ...it doesnt count because it was native African slaves? Between 1670 and 1715, more native Americans were exported into slavery through Charles Town than Africans were imported. Does that mean that we should destroy all statues of George Washington because it represent an offensive time for the native Americans that have been whitewashed into only black slaves were used?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lorenzo_2003 08/18/17 10:28:11 AM #86:	CanuckCowboy posted... Lorenzo_2003 posted... Are you really from Canada? Your government has its own issues with First Nations tribes, from what I've read. How is that working out? Are they getting their country back any time soon? Yes. Yes. What does that have to do with this topic or anything I said in it? I see a lot of virtue signalling in this thread. A lot of people huffing and puffing about injustices, but no one would actually be willing to remedy the situation. The situation in the US is similar to that in Canada, Australia and a few other places where natives have been marginalized or even removed. Many want to get on top of their moral high horse, but they're not actually doing shit about anything. Aside from that, they're also cherry picking what parts of their arguments they want to be consistent with. You know what I heard and read a lot of, regarding the Civil War statues? Take them down, those guys lost. Take them down, they fought against the Union. Take them down, we can just read about history in a book. Notice how they all apply to the native statues as well? But, like I said, I don't want to take any of these monuments down anyway. But if they are taken down, don't destroy them. Keep them in a museum for people to learn from. --- ... <cite>Lorenzo_2003 posted [p:885000794] in Should sta... [t:75683232]...</cite> <quote><cite>CanuckCowboy posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Lorenzo_2003 posted...</cite> <quote> Are you really from Canada? Your government has its own issues with First Nations tribes, from what I've read. How is that working out? Are they getting their country back any time soon?</quote> Yes. Yes. What does that have to do with this topic or anything I said in it?</quote> I see a lot of virtue signalling in this thread. A lot of people huffing and puffing about injustices, but no one would actually be willing to remedy the situation. The situation in the US is similar to that in Canada, Australia and a few other places where natives have been marginalized or even removed. Many want to get on top of their moral high horse, but they're not actually doing shit about anything. Aside from that, they're also cherry picking what parts of their arguments they want to be consistent with. You know what I heard and read a lot of, regarding the Civil War statues? Take them down, those guys lost. Take them down, they fought against the Union. Take them down, we can just read about history in a book. Notice how they all apply to the native statues as well? But, like I said, I don't want to take any of these monuments down anyway. But if they are taken down, don't destroy them. Keep them in a museum for people to learn from.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
That_Happened 08/18/17 10:33:19 AM #87:	Lorenzo_2003 posted... Take them down, they fought against the Union. I think the subtext here is "they were traitors who rebelled against America in the hopes of keeping their slaves." It's not just about "fighting against the Union." I agree with the rest of yoru post though. --- http://fusionanomaly.net/magnoliabutitdidhappen.jpg <cite>That_Happened posted [p:885001019] in Should sta... [t:75683232]...</cite> <quote><cite>Lorenzo_2003 posted...</cite> <quote>Take them down, they fought against the Union. </quote> I think the subtext here is "they were traitors who rebelled against America in the hopes of keeping their slaves." It's not just about "fighting against the Union." I agree with the rest of yoru post though.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Hop103 08/18/17 11:09:55 AM #88:	They lived here before us, so no. --- "In the name of the future moon I shall punish you"-Chibi Moon <cite>Hop103 posted [p:885002804] in Should sta... [t:75683232]...</cite> <quote>They lived here before us, so no.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FighterStreet 08/18/17 11:12:05 AM #89:	this is fucking A-Class trolling to 250+! <cite>FighterStreet posted [p:885002938] in Should sta... [t:75683232]...</cite> <quote>this is fucking A-Class trolling to 250+!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Paper_Okami 08/18/17 11:13:38 AM #90:	FrisbeeDude posted... Addy really went "The war of northern aggression" route lmao --- "Conceit, arrogance and egotism are the essentials of patriotism"- Emma Goldman "Wimmy Wham Wham Wozzle!" -Slurms MacKenzie <cite>Paper_Okami posted [p:885003012] in Should sta... [t:75683232]...</cite> <quote><cite>FrisbeeDude posted...</cite> <quote>Addy really went "The war of northern aggression" route lmao</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Nundulan 08/18/17 11:37:55 AM #91:	Paper_Okami posted... FrisbeeDude posted... Addy really went "The war of northern aggression" route lmao --- Only in America could you find a way to earn a healthy buck and still keep your attitude on self-destruct <cite>Nundulan posted [p:885004304] in Should sta... [t:75683232]...</cite> <quote><cite>Paper_Okami posted...</cite> <quote><cite>FrisbeeDude posted...</cite> <quote>Addy really went "The war of northern aggression" route lmao</quote></quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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NinjaBreakfast 08/18/17 11:41:16 AM #93:	This is like the final boss of awful right winger false equivalency takes. --- http://i.imgur.com/nGZeEqw.png Do you really think you can beat me? <cite>NinjaBreakfast posted [p:885004460] in Should sta... [t:75683232]...</cite> <quote>This is like the final boss of awful right winger false equivalency takes.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
IfGodCouldDie 08/18/17 11:47:53 AM #94:	The Admiral posted... The north was the aggressor in the Civil War. Both the Native Americans and the South were responding to being attacked on their home soil. In both cases the aggressor wanted rights over the land it was attacking. So are you saying the North was wrong for wanting to end slavery? --- Mind post. XBL:Cyanide Sucker PSN:Paters1 IGN:SuperPattyCakes <cite>IfGodCouldDie posted [p:885004793] in Should sta... [t:75683232]...</cite> <quote><cite>The Admiral posted...</cite> <quote>The north was the aggressor in the Civil War. Both the Native Americans and the South were responding to being attacked on their home soil. In both cases the aggressor wanted rights over the land it was attacking.</quote> So are you saying the North was wrong for wanting to end slavery?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Romes187 08/18/17 11:50:49 AM #95:	Asherlee10 posted... I wonder if the opposite of this would be logically conclusive? I realize Admiral didn't quite arrive at a sound conclusion with this post, but the notion is still open for discussion. Do we have any monuments in the U.S. that are of the men who came to America and fought the Natives? Would Native Americans have a leg to stand on if the requested those statues be removed? does this count https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Armstrong_Custer_Equestrian_Monument or is that a different guy im thinking of <cite>Romes187 posted [p:885004935] in Should sta... [t:75683232]...</cite> <quote><cite>Asherlee10 posted...</cite> <quote>I wonder if the opposite of this would be logically conclusive? I realize Admiral didn't quite arrive at a sound conclusion with this post, but the notion is still open for discussion. Do we have any monuments in the U.S. that are of the men who came to America and fought the Natives? Would Native Americans have a leg to stand on if the requested those statues be removed?</quote> does this count https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Armstrong_Custer_Equestrian_Monument or is that a different guy im thinking of</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Boombam99 08/18/17 11:53:08 AM #96:	Doom_Art posted... Fighting us because we occupied their land is not the same as seceding to create a treasonous slave state. This x1000 <cite>Boombam99 posted [p:885005044] in Should sta... [t:75683232]...</cite> <quote><cite>Doom_Art posted...</cite> <quote>Fighting us because we occupied their land is not the same as seceding to create a treasonous slave state.</quote> This x1000</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
g7g7g7g7 08/18/17 11:55:32 AM #97:	The Natives aren't traitors they weren't American citizens to start with, pretty lame effort at false equivalency if you ask me. --- Feel free to add me on Steam - S.T.I.N.K.E.R. <cite>g7g7g7g7 posted [p:885005161] in Should sta... [t:75683232]...</cite> <quote>The Natives aren't traitors they weren't American citizens to start with, pretty lame effort at false equivalency if you ask me.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The Admiral 08/18/17 11:56:46 AM #98:	g7g7g7g7 posted... The Natives aren't traitors they weren't American citizens to start with, pretty lame effort at false equivalency if you ask me. They were enemies of the Unites States and killed American citizens. --- - The Admiral <cite>The Admiral posted [p:885005239] in Should sta... [t:75683232]...</cite> <quote><cite>g7g7g7g7 posted...</cite> <quote>The Natives aren't traitors they weren't American citizens to start with, pretty lame effort at false equivalency if you ask me.</quote> They were enemies of the Unites States and killed American citizens.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FrenchCrunch 08/18/17 11:58:33 AM #99:	The Admiral posted... g7g7g7g7 posted... The Natives aren't traitors they weren't American citizens to start with, pretty lame effort at false equivalency if you ask me. They were enemies of the Unites States and killed American citizens. is that all that matters? <cite>FrenchCrunch posted [p:885005333] in Should sta... [t:75683232]...</cite> <quote><cite>The Admiral posted...</cite> <quote><cite>g7g7g7g7 posted...</cite> <quote>The Natives aren't traitors they weren't American citizens to start with, pretty lame effort at false equivalency if you ask me.</quote> They were enemies of the Unites States and killed American citizens.</quote> is that all that matters?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Villain 08/18/17 12:00:37 PM #100:	The Admiral posted... g7g7g7g7 posted... The Natives aren't traitors they weren't American citizens to start with, pretty lame effort at false equivalency if you ask me. They were enemies of the Unites States and killed American citizens. Dude. You're fucking ridiculous. --- http://i.imgur.com/ZWNgMXL.jpg Formally known as Will VIIII Game Discounts + Deals: http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/1205-discounts-and-deals <cite>Villain posted [p:885005444] in Should sta... [t:75683232]...</cite> <quote><cite>The Admiral posted...</cite> <quote><cite>g7g7g7g7 posted...</cite> <quote>The Natives aren't traitors they weren't American citizens to start with, pretty lame effort at false equivalency if you ask me.</quote> They were enemies of the Unites States and killed American citizens.</quote> Dude. You're fucking ridiculous.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Bio1590 08/18/17 12:00:57 PM #101:	If anyone else made this topic it would have been deleted or locked hours ago. --- http://i.imgur.com/bbRWLI8.gif https://i.imgur.com/A0BErSV.jpg <cite>Bio1590 posted [p:885005456] in Should sta... [t:75683232]...</cite> <quote>If anyone else made this topic it would have been deleted or locked hours ago.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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