Current Events > lol Alt-Right trying to rebrand themselves as non-Nazi. Now known as 'New-Right'

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voldothegr8 posted...

Schwarber posted...

voldothegr8 posted...

Anteaterking posted...

Nomadic View posted...

Anteaterking posted...

Bullet_Wing posted...

Nomadic View were also the only ones who were vocal in their disgust of what happened at the rally

Did he change his mind? He seemed to be posting ****ty stuff later about it.

Can you be more specific? I'll gladly elaborate.

I looked back and couldn't find anything from the topics that haven't purged, so I think I might be mistaking you with another poster, in which case I apologize.

LOL that might be the most pathetic thing I've read on CE all month

This is definitely the stupidest post I've read all day. Instead of doubling down like you and a bunch of the other alt right trolls, he admitted his mistake.

By literally digging for his posts in other topics lol. Imagine taking gamefaqs that seriously.

He asked me to be more specific about the posts that I disagreed with. Why wouldn't I try to find them if I'm going to claim in the first place that he made them? I'm not just going to say "You know what you said, moving on"
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lots of alt-right now are angry at neonazis
and want them gone :)
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Asherlee10 posted...

Bullet_Wing posted...

They insist they are conservative despite having political views that are polar opposite of actual conservative viewpoints.

Out of curiosity, where would their political stances fall on the spectrum?

Depends which members you're talking about?

The "Alt-right" is made up of a messy coalition of convenience or a clumsy attempt to categorise right of centre attitudes and ideology for easier promotion, consumption and/or criticism.

There will be people that identify as National Socialists (1930's style) there'll be people that base everything around the racial elements of the Nazis, without adhering to the economics and without the underlying German nationalism - they are LARPing as Nazis (playing dress up and appropriating the symbology - Neo-Nazis) and simply reluctant to say "We don't like or want people that aren't (insert race here) and we really, reallllly like the Hugo Boss 1930 collection".

Among that group you'll also have ethno-nationalists and genuine fascists - though it'd be "American Facism" and not German or Italian as it's not Germany or Italy.

You'll have libertarians, neo-cons, traditionalists, fundamentalists etc. all crammed in there as well - why approach each ideology separately when you can lump them all together? They're not left of centre, they're "the enemy" so why give them the benefit of the doubt?

I don't think there *is* a unifying political viewpoint for the Alt-right as a whole - same with the Left or the "Alt-left". Some on the left want an authoritarian, planned economy, some want idealistic Marxism, some want democratic socialism. Some are also going to want (insert race here) gone. Different viewpoints and goals, all given one clumsy label.

I think the closest you'll get to an understanding is that if you lump Neo-Nazis and Ethno-nationalists together and call that Alt-right - groups that are itching for a fight and lump Antifa and '70's style leftist radicals or historical Marxist Radicals as Alt-left - also itching for a fight then you'll have a better comparison. "Alt" Left/Right - they're outside of the mainstream of political discourse, they're violent activists and fucking things up for everyone, they believe in different things but their method of getting what they want is through violence.
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Conservatism places a focus on the individual

The alt right is literally the opposite of that

That's the same logic for gamergate, how when people were doxxing journalists and comedians, they kept saying "that's only the minority it doesnt represent us" and then just did nothing about that. If you can't police your base properly, then you need to rethink your platform.
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sadly what is happening is the alt right is going after a cause which most on the right tend to agree with...the statue thing.

Then, when antifa or the left starts labeling them all as nazis (because a subset actually ARE nazis), those who have valid reasons for wanting the statues kept up (there are valid arguments, I'd be glad to discuss with anyone) feel they have to say screw you to antifa....then those on the left who have valid reasons for wanting the statues taken down (there are valid arguments, I'd be glad to discuss with anyone) end up hating the entire right.

These extreme groups are co-opting issues in order to expand their base with moderates even though they run counter to what the majority of the moderates believe.

We are doomed.