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CruelBuffalo
08/17/17 7:21:05 PM
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OrtegaTron
08/17/17 7:23:40 PM
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So you're saying if you are conservative, right of center, you are a national socialist by default?
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CruelBuffalo
08/17/17 7:25:18 PM
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OrtegaTron posted...
So you're saying if you are conservative, right of center, you are a national socialist by default?

No because all conservatives are not alt-right.
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yanksfan4247
08/17/17 7:25:40 PM
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We aren't racist it is just jokes and memes. MAGA!
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LordFarquad1312
08/17/17 7:26:03 PM
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New Right
Neo Right
Neo Nazis

They can try, but they can't hide.
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Hicks233
08/17/17 7:26:05 PM
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OrtegaTron posted...
So you're saying if you are conservative, right of center, you are a national socialist by default?

Of course. How else are you going to maintain an "us and them" mentality?
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Anteaterking
08/17/17 7:26:14 PM
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"Don't get me wrong, some of the second group also likes to wear MAGA hats, have fun, and create memes, so it might be hard to tell them apart. And some of the first group has racially backwards views, but they don't literally march with the Nazis, so don't get them confused!"
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Antifar
08/17/17 7:26:15 PM
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OrtegaTron posted...
So you're saying if you are conservative, right of center, you are a national socialist by default?

That's quite a leap in logic.

What this is saying is that the white supremacists are trying to rebrand as the "new right"
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Tmaster148
08/17/17 7:26:38 PM
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I find it more funny that they are saying the White Supremacist and Nazi part of Trump's voter base had no impact on Trump winning.
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Proto_Spark
08/17/17 7:27:39 PM
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LordFarquad1312 posted...
New Right
Neo Right
Neo Nazis

They can try, but they can't hide.


New Right
New Reicht
New Reich

Its like they aren't even trying
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thompsontalker7
08/17/17 7:27:42 PM
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Antifar posted...
OrtegaTron posted...
So you're saying if you are conservative, right of center, you are a national socialist by default?

That's quite a leap in logic.

What this is saying is that the white supremacists are trying to rebrand as the "new right"


And to the average person, that's basically saying that the right are becoming indistinguishable from the Neo Nazis....which fits the narrative way too perfectly.
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Antifar
08/17/17 7:32:08 PM
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thompsontalker7 posted...
And to the average person, that's basically saying that the right are becoming indistinguishable from the Neo Nazis

The average person is not nearly as dumb as you're making them out to be.
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Ving_Rhames
08/17/17 7:32:39 PM
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So much for their unity
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legendary_zell
08/17/17 7:32:59 PM
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thompsontalker7 posted...
Antifar posted...
OrtegaTron posted...
So you're saying if you are conservative, right of center, you are a national socialist by default?

That's quite a leap in logic.

What this is saying is that the white supremacists are trying to rebrand as the "new right"


And to the average person, that's basically saying that the right are becoming indistinguishable from the Neo Nazis....which fits the narrative way too perfectly.


Y'all are some touchy MFers. No one is saying that, it's been explicitly denied and yet you desperately jump to that conclusion like it's a life raft. He was only criticizing the alt right, not conservatives, right wingers, white people etc generally.
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The Admiral
08/17/17 7:33:01 PM
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CruelBuffalo posted...
OrtegaTron posted...
So you're saying if you are conservative, right of center, you are a national socialist by default?

No because all conservatives are not alt-right.


The alt-right isn't really conservative at all. It's a white identity politics movement with many anti-conservative views.
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Antifar
08/17/17 7:33:27 PM
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The Admiral posted...
The alt-right isn't really conservative at all. It's a white identity politics movement with many anti-conservative views.

Correct
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NeoShadowhen
08/17/17 7:40:39 PM
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Quick show of hands. Who thinks Paul Joseph Watson is a racist.
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Antifar
08/17/17 7:41:31 PM
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NeoShadowhen posted...
Quick show of hands. Who thinks Paul Joseph Watson is a racist.

*hand shoots up so fast I hurt my shoulder*
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yemmy
08/17/17 7:43:58 PM
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Antifar posted...
thompsontalker7 posted...
And to the average person, that's basically saying that the right are becoming indistinguishable from the Neo Nazis

The average person is not nearly as dumb as you're making them out to be.


ok, just the average person that watches The Late Show, John Oliver, and TDS.
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CruelBuffalo
08/17/17 7:44:14 PM
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Bullet_Wing posted...
The Admiral posted...
CruelBuffalo posted...
OrtegaTron posted...
So you're saying if you are conservative, right of center, you are a national socialist by default?

No because all conservatives are not alt-right.


The alt-right isn't really conservative at all. It's a white identity politics movement with many anti-conservative views.

They want to be viewed as conservatives though. I've noticed that when talking to alt right people on here. They insist they are conservative despite having political views that are polar opposite of actual conservative viewpoints. I think that's why they want to be "new right" now. They feel it gives them legitimacy.


Correct. "Conservatives" have been switching on their stance on trade
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Darmik
08/17/17 7:46:21 PM
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Does CE have more conservative or alt-right posters? It feels more like the latter. Either that or the conservatives here like siding with the alt-right every time anyway.
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AmonAmarth
08/17/17 7:46:35 PM
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the New Right term is older.

First New Right

The first New Right (1955–64) was centered around the libertarians, traditionalists, and anti-communists at William F. Buckley's National Review.[23]:624 Sociologists and journalists had used new right since the 1950s; it was first used as self-identification in 1962 by the student activist group Young Americans for Freedom.[24]



Second New Right
The second New Right (1964 to the present) was formed in the wake of the Goldwater campaign and had a more populist tone than the first New Right. The second New Right tended to focus on social issues and national sovereignty (such as the Panama Canal Treaty) and was often linked with the Religious Right.[25

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Proto_Spark
08/17/17 7:47:30 PM
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NeoShadowhen posted...
Quick show of hands. Who thinks Paul Joseph Watson is a racist.


I thought you meant the Whale Wars guy, and was like "Racist? no way..." and then I looked up this guy.

The Whale Wars guy is Paul Franklin Watson. He's definitely the superior Paul Watson
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COVxy
08/17/17 7:48:46 PM
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Continuously relabeling to attempt to avoid societal pushback and avoid responsibility.

This is the same line of thought that brought gems like "I'm not a Nazi, I don't give a shit about Germany!"
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The Admiral
08/17/17 7:52:10 PM
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Bullet_Wing posted...
The Admiral posted...
CruelBuffalo posted...
OrtegaTron posted...
So you're saying if you are conservative, right of center, you are a national socialist by default?

No because all conservatives are not alt-right.


The alt-right isn't really conservative at all. It's a white identity politics movement with many anti-conservative views.

They want to be viewed as conservatives though. I've noticed that when talking to alt right people on here. They insist they are conservative despite having political views that are polar opposite of actual conservative viewpoints. I think that's why they want to be "new right" now. They feel it gives them legitimacy.


Of course people on the alt-right want to think their group is larger than it is. A lot of the people who self-identify as the alt-right don't even know what the term encompasses and aren't actually alt-right. They just think hating SJWs and posting Pepe memes fits them into that group, when it doesn't.
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Teen Girl Squad
08/17/17 7:54:43 PM
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Almost no one is is saying every conservative is a Nazi. Conservatives and their persecution complex just automatically kicks into defense mode any time that even remotely questions the purity and sanctity of their party. How hard is it to say yes, the alt-right is bad. No qualifiers. Not white people are bad. Not conservatives are bad. Not even people in favor of Confederate iconography. Just members of organizations whose literal only purpose is to cause harm. Instead its a bunch of "good people were there too" "the founding fathers were racists too" etc... double talk. How is it that the individualist self-accountability party are so deathly scared to ever admit anything associated with their ideas isn't perfect.
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Antifar
08/17/17 8:01:51 PM
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AmonAmarth posted...
The first New Right (1955–64) was centered around the libertarians, traditionalists, and anti-communists at William F. Buckley's National Review.[23]:624 Sociologists and journalists had used new right since the 1950s; it was first used as self-identification in 1962 by the student activist group Young Americans for Freedom.[24]

Oh, the people trying to uphold segregation. Neat.
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Anteaterking
08/17/17 8:04:49 PM
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Bullet_Wing posted...
Nomadic View were also the only ones who were vocal in their disgust of what happened at the rally


Did he change his mind? He seemed to be posting ****ty stuff later about it.
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AmonAmarth
08/17/17 9:03:04 PM
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Bullet_Wing posted...

Alt right. The only actual conservatives I've seen actively posting lately are Admiral and Nomadic View. M


its debatable if Trump is alt-right.

someone else posted.

trump had 35-40% support
alt-right has only 6% support.

so trump has a lot of other groups supporting him.

perhaps some Paleocons,
some Evangelicals (who prefer trump over hillary),
and some liberterians.
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Ammonitida
08/17/17 9:12:25 PM
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NeoShadowhen posted...
Quick show of hands. Who thinks Paul Joseph Watson is a racist.


He insists he's not a racist but he sure is terrified of becoming a white minority in London. Jack certainly is a white nationalist. He has faked antifa material (flyers) to paint them as anti-white. These flyers contained a text that only a white nationalist would write down. It talked about the antifa agenda to stop the white race from producing racist white babies.
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Ammonitida
08/17/17 9:16:07 PM
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Jack is also behind the "rape melania" sign seen at a protest rally in November last year. He frequently engages in fake news phys-ops. He can not be trusted.
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NeoShadowhen
08/17/17 9:17:56 PM
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Ammonitida posted...
NeoShadowhen posted...
Quick show of hands. Who thinks Paul Joseph Watson is a racist.


He insists he's not a racist but he sure is terrified of becoming a white minority in London. Jack certainly is a white nationalist. He has faked antifa material (flyers) to paint them as anti-white. These flyers contained a text that only a white nationalist would write down. It talked about the antifa agenda to stop the white race from producing racist white babies.


I'd be interested to see that if you have a link. I'm also assuming "Jack" is in reference to Paul J Watson. That always confuses me in conversation, but not as much as it confuses my friend Jack.
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NeoShadowhen
08/17/17 9:19:24 PM
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Oh sweet Jesus. The guy quoting PJW is Jack. See how confused I get?
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Nomadic View
08/17/17 9:19:31 PM
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Anteaterking posted...
Bullet_Wing posted...
Nomadic View were also the only ones who were vocal in their disgust of what happened at the rally


Did he change his mind? He seemed to be posting ****ty stuff later about it.


Can you be more specific? I'll gladly elaborate.
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TheVipaGTS
08/17/17 9:21:34 PM
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"Create memes and have fun"....lmao
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voldothegr8
08/17/17 9:22:21 PM
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Isn't disassociating from crazy neo nazis a good thing? Anything to shit on the right I guess.
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Antifar
08/17/17 9:23:59 PM
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voldothegr8 posted...
Isn't disassociating from crazy neo nazis a good thing? Anything to shit on the right I guess.

A rebrand that doesn't actually change the preferred policies is just PR.
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Ammonitida
08/17/17 9:24:15 PM
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NeoShadowhen posted...
Ammonitida posted...
NeoShadowhen posted...
Quick show of hands. Who thinks Paul Joseph Watson is a racist.


He insists he's not a racist but he sure is terrified of becoming a white minority in London. Jack certainly is a white nationalist. He has faked antifa material (flyers) to paint them as anti-white. These flyers contained a text that only a white nationalist would write down. It talked about the antifa agenda to stop the white race from producing racist white babies.


I'd be interested to see that if you have a link. I'm also assuming "Jack" is in reference to Paul J Watson. That always confuses me in conversation, but not as much as it confuses my friend Jack.


I'm talking about Jack Posobiec -- the man Trump retweeted recently. I don't have a link since what I said is based off my own research on him (I never compiled it on a website or anything). He fabricating fake antifa flyers and posted them on his twitter account.

But rape Melania sign I mention later has a link
http://www.salon.com/2017/08/16/meet-jack-posobiec-the-alt-right-troll-with-a-press-pass-in-white-house_partner/

I know it's Salon, but I personally confirmed this with people who know him.
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Anteaterking
08/17/17 9:35:22 PM
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Nomadic View posted...
Anteaterking posted...
Bullet_Wing posted...
Nomadic View were also the only ones who were vocal in their disgust of what happened at the rally


Did he change his mind? He seemed to be posting ****ty stuff later about it.


Can you be more specific? I'll gladly elaborate.


I looked back and couldn't find anything from the topics that haven't purged, so I think I might be mistaking you with another poster, in which case I apologize.
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voldothegr8
08/17/17 9:42:25 PM
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Anteaterking posted...
Nomadic View posted...
Anteaterking posted...
Bullet_Wing posted...
Nomadic View were also the only ones who were vocal in their disgust of what happened at the rally


Did he change his mind? He seemed to be posting ****ty stuff later about it.


Can you be more specific? I'll gladly elaborate.


I looked back and couldn't find anything from the topics that haven't purged, so I think I might be mistaking you with another poster, in which case I apologize.

LOL that might be the most pathetic thing I've read on CE all month
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Nomadic View
08/17/17 9:43:56 PM
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Anteaterking posted...
Nomadic View posted...
Anteaterking posted...
Bullet_Wing posted...
Nomadic View were also the only ones who were vocal in their disgust of what happened at the rally


Did he change his mind? He seemed to be posting ****ty stuff later about it.


Can you be more specific? I'll gladly elaborate.


I looked back and couldn't find anything from the topics that haven't purged, so I think I might be mistaking you with another poster, in which case I apologize.


It's no problem.
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Chaosmaster00
08/17/17 9:45:16 PM
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Alt-Reich
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Schwarber
08/17/17 9:45:56 PM
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voldothegr8 posted...
Anteaterking posted...
Nomadic View posted...
Anteaterking posted...
Bullet_Wing posted...
Nomadic View were also the only ones who were vocal in their disgust of what happened at the rally


Did he change his mind? He seemed to be posting ****ty stuff later about it.


Can you be more specific? I'll gladly elaborate.


I looked back and couldn't find anything from the topics that haven't purged, so I think I might be mistaking you with another poster, in which case I apologize.

LOL that might be the most pathetic thing I've read on CE all month


This is definitely the stupidest post I've read all day. Instead of doubling down like you and a bunch of the other alt right trolls, he admitted his mistake.
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voldothegr8
08/17/17 10:00:41 PM
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Schwarber posted...
voldothegr8 posted...
Anteaterking posted...
Nomadic View posted...
Anteaterking posted...
Bullet_Wing posted...
Nomadic View were also the only ones who were vocal in their disgust of what happened at the rally


Did he change his mind? He seemed to be posting ****ty stuff later about it.


Can you be more specific? I'll gladly elaborate.


I looked back and couldn't find anything from the topics that haven't purged, so I think I might be mistaking you with another poster, in which case I apologize.

LOL that might be the most pathetic thing I've read on CE all month


This is definitely the stupidest post I've read all day. Instead of doubling down like you and a bunch of the other alt right trolls, he admitted his mistake.

By literally digging for his posts in other topics lol. Imagine taking gamefaqs that seriously.
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