Poll of the Day > So did that guy that got pulled by Earth's gravity die?

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that one guy that kept phasing through the ground. If he didn't die of suffocation did he die of dehydration/starvation? If not did he die by being crushed by Earth's gravity? If not is he just stuck in the center of the Earth forever?

Gravity gets stronger closer to the core IIRC so he'd be crushed.

This is a Batman Beyond topic.

Then shouldn't the topic mention possible spoilers?
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He's dead

I thought he would burn to death though
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KJ StErOiDs posted...

Then shouldn't the topic mention possible spoilers?

Spoilers are okay if the thing being spoiled is well-known and over 10 years old. You can spoil Lion King if you want.

Below the surface of a spherical object, the force of gravity actually gets weaker as you get closer to the center. At the center it becomes zero. So if you had a tunnel going through the Earth and you climbed down to the center you could let go and just float there. However the weight of all the other stuff above you would still be pushing down on you so the pressure and temperature would be enormous.

Now you didn't specify how this guy was phasing through the ground. Is he impervious to physical matter? Temperature and pressure really shouldn't affect him as the matter should phase through him as if it wasn't there. This would present problems with breathing, even if he wasn't falling through rock as the air at the surface should phase right through him as well.

But lets suppose he exists in some parallel universe that is only filled with breathable air but can observe our universe and is affected by its gravity. The Earth's gravity causes him to fall below the surface everything becomes dark because he's seeing from places blocked by solid rock. As he falls he picks up velocity and falls more and more quickly. Eventually he falls deep enough that the pressure has heated the rock up to molten temperatures and it gives off its own light and his vision is flooded by this light.

As he nears the center of the Earth the force of gravity decreases, so his acceleration decreases but at this point he already has plenty of velocity. I could get technical that as the Earth's gravity cancels out the Moon becomes more dominant and starts pulling him away from the Earth's center of mass and toward its center of mass. Obviously the Sun would also have a major influence as well. We'll just ignore this and pretend only the Earth's mass creates gravity in this parallel universe.

We assumed this dimension was full of air that he can breathe while he observes our universe so eventually he'll reach a terminal velocity where his air resistance cancels out the acceleration. And as his acceleration decreases the air resistance will continue to slow him down. So he will not reach maximum velocity at the center but somewhere earlier.

Now we need to ask whether the air in this dimension is affected by gravity in our dimension. If it is the air will become much more dense and hot as the other air above it is pushing down. This increased density would slow him down even more and eventually crush him or cause hyperthermia, not sure which would occur first.

If however the air in this dimension is completely uniformly distributed to equal a single atmosphere of pressure and is unaffected by gravity from our dimension. He'll be able to maintain a higher velocity as he falls and won't be crushed by the pressure. Under this system he'd live the longest and some interesting things would happen. When he finally does reach the center of the Earth the acceleration will be zero but he'll still have some velocity. Probably a lot of velocity since we've specified only one atmosphere of air resistance. So he'll fall past the center and start traveling upwards towards the other side of the Earth. Acceleration will start increasing again, but now the gravity is pulling him backwards towards the core. So he'll continue falling upwards until the acceleration cancels out all his velocity. He won't make it to the other side because the air resistance would have kept him from conserving all that momentum. And now he'll fall back toward the center. This process would continue until the air resistance nullified all his momentum and he comes to rest in the center. He would probably die of dehydration first.

If the air wasn't in this dimension he existed in, he'd probably die similar to being in the vacuum of space. As there is no external pressure to maintain his body. But without the air resistance he'd be able to fall past the center and all the way to the surface on the other side of the planet before falling back through, over and over, forever.


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Anisoptera posted...

KJ StErOiDs posted...

Then shouldn't the topic mention possible spoilers?

Spoilers are okay if the thing being spoiled is well-known and over 10 years old. You can spoil Lion King if you want.

On GameFAQs, spoilers have no expiration date.
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Gamechamp3k posted...

Anisoptera posted...

KJ StErOiDs posted...

Then shouldn't the topic mention possible spoilers?

Spoilers are okay if the thing being spoiled is well-known and over 10 years old. You can spoil Lion King if you want.

On GameFAQs, spoilers have no expiration date.

This. ^^^ You can't spoil fifty year old movies even.
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Does it count as a spoiler if you have no idea what's being spoiled, though? Like can something like "he dies at the end of the movie" count as a spoiler if I don't give any hints as to what movie I'm talking about?
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I think people have been modded for theories and speculation to upcoming shows that haven't even been made yet.

Bligh_with_no_T posted...

Gravity gets stronger closer to the core IIRC so he'd be crushed.

Fake news! At some poing all the earth anove you would start pulling you in the opposite direction
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dedbus posted...

I think people have been modded for theories and speculation to upcoming shows that haven't even been made yet.

They probably looked like spoilers for something when taken out-of-context by someone who's unaware the work hasn't yet been made.Golden Road posted...

Does it count as a spoiler if you have no idea what's being spoiled, though? Like can something like "he dies at the end of the movie" count as a spoiler if I don't give any hints as to what movie I'm talking about?

As long as you don't give enough defining characteristics of the movie that it's impossible to determine I think that might be fine. But you'd have to be extremely careful about making sure there's no possible context in which that specific movie could be linked. For example, if the main character dies at the end of a blockbuster hit that just came out last week, and you make a post saying you just saw "a movie where the main character dies at the end", I'd say that's enough to break the rule. Context is really important.
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1) If he's phasing through the ground then he's also phasing through all matter. That's liquids and gases as well. That means without a portable supply of oxygen that phased with him he's completely unable to acquire any more than is already in his body.

2) Earth's gravity is a result of all the matter that makes up the Earth. On the Earth's surface that matter is all in one direction, more or less downward with tangent forces canceling out. At the the center all that matter would be evenly distributed around the man and pulling outward on him. He would be weightless. The pressure at the center is a result of all the matter also being pulled to the center of gravity. Since he is out of phase with that matter it can't crush him any more than it can support him.

3) Since he's unable to interact with other matter there can be no heat exchange.

4) The human body is a thin sack of liquid and gas with an internal pressure relative to Earth's atmosphere. Removing atmospheric pressure allows expansion from the man's internal pressure. The sack pops like a water balloon and his fluids boil off all heat energy until frozen.
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Anisoptera posted...

KJ StErOiDs posted...

Then shouldn't the topic mention possible spoilers?

Spoilers are okay if the thing being spoiled is well-known and over 10 years old. You can spoil Lion King if you want.

Flat-out wrong. First, because spoilers are still protected. Second, because the show in question wasn't widely watched enough anyway.
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Zeus posted...

Second, because the show in question wasn't widely watched enough anyway.

What show?
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Anisoptera posted...

KJ StErOiDs posted...

Then shouldn't the topic mention possible spoilers?

Spoilers are okay if the thing being spoiled is well-known and over 10 years old. You can spoil Lion King if you want.

no.

no you can't.
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This is the character I'm talking about. He uses a device to phase through walls, but it malfunctions and he ends up being pulled by Earth's gravity and into the core.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aNZ0n-OGMDg

Golden Road posted...

Does it count as a spoiler if you have no idea what's being spoiled, though? Like can something like "he dies at the end of the movie" count as a spoiler if I don't give any hints as to what movie I'm talking about?

He mentioned what it was spoiling afterward, though.

SKARDAVNELNATE posted...

3) Since he's unable to interact with other matter there can be heat exchange.

I'm not sure that's actually true.

Anisoptera posted...

This is the character I'm talking about. He uses a device to phase through walls, but it malfunctions and he ends up being pulled by Earth's gravity and into the core.

I always assumed that he'd be fine until his device ran out of power and phased him back, at which point he'd merge with liquid or solid objects instantly killing him.
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Zeus posted...

SKARDAVNELNATE posted...

3) Since he's unable to interact with other matter there can be heat exchange.

I'm not sure that's actually true.

I edited my post, left out a word.
...there can be no heat exchange.

Zeus posted...

I always assumed that he'd be fine until his device ran out of power and phased him back, at which point he'd merge with liquid or solid objects instantly killing him.

I'm surprised he lived that long. Parts of his body were phasing at different rates. They would have had more or less interaction with floors depending on how phased they were. Falling like that should have completely torn him apart.

Even the impact on the balcony should have left part of his body behind.
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SKARDAVNELNATE posted...

1) If he's phasing through the ground then he's also phasing through all matter. That's liquids and gases as well. That means without a portable supply of oxygen that phased with him he's completely unable to acquire any more than is already in his body.

2) Earth's gravity is a result of all the matter that makes up the Earth. On the Earth's surface that matter is all in one direction, more or less downward with tangent forces canceling out. At the the center all that matter would be evenly distributed around the man and pulling outward on him. He would be weightless. The pressure at the center is a result of all the matter also being pulled to the center of gravity. Since he is out of phase with that matter it can't crush him any more than it can support him.

3) Since he's unable to interact with other matter there can be no heat exchange.

4) The human body is a thin sack of liquid and gas with an internal pressure relative to Earth's atmosphere. Removing atmospheric pressure allows expansion from the man's internal pressure. The sack pops like a water balloon and his fluids boil off all heat energy until frozen.

It's not that logical. It's a cartoon. He could walk through walls but not fall through the floor. He sort pulled himself up from out of the ground but then his hands started to go through the ground too. He phased through things because of the way his atoms were vibrating so he wasn't massless.
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Anisoptera posted...

This is the character I'm talking about. He uses a device to phase through walls, but it malfunctions and he ends up being pulled by Earth's gravity and into the core.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aNZ0n-OGMDg

dude that's fucked up

that poor guy
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SKARDAVNELNATE posted...

I edited my post, left out a word.
...there can be no heat exchange.

The problem with that idea is that we don't know how the technology actually works.
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Zeus posted...

The problem with that idea is that we don't know how the technology actually works.

We don't need to know how the technology works. Heat exchange is the transfer of kinetic energy from one atom to another. We can see he's not interacting with matter on the atomic level. He's effectively separate from the known 3 dimensions. However, according to string theory the universe exists within 10 dimensions. This is important because gravity is theorized to exert a force across all 10.

Of course if the show were accurate he would have died from sudden hypotension the moment any part of his circulatory system became out of phase with his blood.
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