Current Events > WB confirms Shadow of War WILL have microtransactions

(+) Yeah! (+)

http://www.gameinformer.com/b/news/archive/2017/08/05/middle-earth-shadow-of-war-has-microtransactions.aspx

Absolutely disgusting, once again publishers wearing contempt for their audience on their sleeves as they expect us to try and appease their insatiable avarice.

I predicted this years ago when microtransactions were initially shoehorned into existing projects by publishers that eventually games will no longer be made as fun experiences for customers to enjoy but as cynical cash grabs designed for the sole purpose of milking you dry

And as always I was right even though when I said this so many people on CE said I was trolling/crazy and that their precious multibillion dollar corporations are friends who love us as family and would never do such a thing
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shut the fuck up

Do your friends call you Nostradamus?
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who cares
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But but but they aren't offering games anymore they are offering a service
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Microtransactions in a single player game

Lmao
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Unless the microtransactions literally have things you can't unlock without spending money, I don't particularly see the issue.

It's a single player game and other people spending money for stuff early doesn't affect you in anyway. And you can always chose not to buy them.
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Tmaster148 posted...

And you can always chose not to buy them.

I am sick of this pathetic excuse, no publisher or developer ever put microtransactions in a game for you not to buy them. You put way to much faith in publishers and that's not a good thing
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ZombiePelican posted...

Tmaster148 posted...

And you can always chose not to buy them.

I am sick of this pathetic excuse, no publisher or developer ever put microtransactions in a game for you not to buy them. You put way to much faith in publishers and that's not a good thing

Well microtransactions aren't leaving any time soon, because they are massively profitable. However, if you don't like them just don't buy games with them or pay into the system. We're pass the point where complaining about microtransactions will get them removed. Have a little self control with your wallet.
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I don't see the point in paying for boosting services in a single player game. Never have. Namco has offered that shit in the Tales series ever since micro-transactions and DLC have been a thing, and it's dumb.
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AlternativeFAQS posted...

shut the fuck up

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It's disappointing, but so far there's nothing about them locking content behind a paywall. Unless all these streams and videos are carefully stepping around some deal breaker like always-online, I'm still hyped.
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AlternativeFAQS posted...

shut the fuck up

glitteringfairy posted...

AlternativeFAQS posted...

shut the fuck up

I will never silence myself to make publishers look good, sorry
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Don't like it don't buy it.
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If it's like Unity then that's fine.

I'll juts wait for the reviews to find out how they affect the game.
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voldothegr8 posted...

Don't like it don't buy it.

I won't because I have integrity and refuse to basically tell publishers that I'm ok with their anticosumerist and contemptuous actions

Jabodie posted...

If it's like Unity then that's fine.

No, it is not. Microtransactions have no place in a game you paid full price for regardless of how optional they may be


Jabodie posted...

I'll juts wait for the reviews to find out how they affect the game.

Or just be an informed consumer and just not buy the game. By purchasing this game at launch you are telling publishers you're ok with their contemptuous attempts at fleecing their customers
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ZombiePelican posted...

Or just be an informed consumer and just not buy the game. By purchasing this game at launch you are telling publishers you're ok with their contemptuous attempts at fleecing their customers

I guess you missed the part where games have been getting microtransactions for a while because publishers make much more money from them than selling the game itself.

It really doesn't matter if you don't want to buy a game that would be fun, because you want to make a statement microtransactions are bad. It's far too late for that. Suck it up.
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Tmaster148 posted...

I guess you missed the part where games have been getting microtransactions for a while because publishers make much more money from them than selling the game itself.

And this is ok why?

Tmaster148 posted...

It really doesn't matter if you don't want to buy a game that would be fun

Doesn't matter if it's fun, WB don't deserve your money for this anticonserumerist bs


Tmaster148 posted...

, because you want to make a statement microtransactions are bad. It's far too late for that. Suck it up.

No never, it's only too late when spineless worms like yourself completely infest the gaming public, the majority of gamers hate these and it's a handful of "whales" a term publishers love to dehumanizingly describe those who just blindly buy into them en masse and keep them in games people paid upwards of 60 dollars for
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You can only make a statement with money if your wallet makes a dent. It doesn't and I doubt WB cares if you buy their games or not.
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Tmaster148 posted...

You can only make a statement with money if your wallet makes a dent. It doesn't and I doubt WB cares if you buy their games or not.

Squeaky wheel gets the grease, the gaming public is getting tired of being milked and no amount of whales continually buying them, it's only a matter of time before this boils over
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An AAA game, being released in 2017... has MICROTRANSACTIONS?!?!??!?!?!?!??!?!?!?!??!?!?!??!?!??!?!?!?!?!?!??!?!?!??!?!?!

HOW CAN THIS BE I AM SO SHOCKED AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
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Preorder cancelled.

*awaits GoTY Edition for $25 like the first game*
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ohnoitschris posted...

The fact it was so predictable only cements my point.
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ZombiePelican posted...

No, it is not. Microtransactions have no place in a game you paid full price for regardless of how optional they may be

Well, it's been done multiple times to great success.

GTA Online, Overwatch, Call of Duty. And they've been extremely profitable.

You can yell at the developers all you want. But it's the people paying for the microtransactions you need to be yelling at.
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Lots of people are happy to pay for the stuff, so why not include the option for them? Shrugs

ZombiePelican posted...

AlternativeFAQS posted...

shut the fuck up

glitteringfairy posted...

AlternativeFAQS posted...

shut the fuck up

I will never silence myself to make publishers look good, sorry

Shut the FUCK up
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Tmaster148 posted...

Unless the microtransactions literally have things you can't unlock without spending money, I don't particularly see the issue.

It's a single player game and other people spending money for stuff early doesn't affect you in anyway. And you can always chose not to buy them.

The problem is that you can't really trust a dev not to fuck with the pacing of a game just so you feel like you should buy stuff.
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Tmaster148 posted...

Unless the microtransactions literally have things you can't unlock without spending money, I don't particularly see the issue.

It's a single player game and other people spending money for stuff early doesn't affect you in anyway. And you can always chose not to buy them.

It's a way of exploiting the mentally infirm.

don't like it? make whiny posts on a video game forum and still buy the game when it comes out anyway.
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Jagr_68 posted...

Preorder cancelled.

*awaits GoTY Edition for $25 like the first game*

Ding ding ding
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ArchiePeck posted...

Lots of people are happy to pay for the stuff, so why not include the option for them? Shrugs

Because this sort of design decision runs very deep and can change the gameplay for the worse.

You used to be able to unlock characters in games by playing the game, you could even consider it grinding for the content. However, the game was balanced around this since there was no other way to unlock them so it was never TOO much of a hassle.

Take LoL as an example where characters are free and you see the difference. Sure, you can get them all for free, but the game is designed around making you want to pay for them to avoid the gigantic grind.

This goes for basically every micro transaction mechanic in games. They are no longer balanced to be obtainable for free, even if they still are.
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pegusus123456 posted...

Tmaster148 posted...

Unless the microtransactions literally have things you can't unlock without spending money, I don't particularly see the issue.

It's a single player game and other people spending money for stuff early doesn't affect you in anyway. And you can always chose not to buy them.

The problem is that you can't really trust a dev not to fuck with the pacing of a game just so you feel like you should buy stuff.

It has absolutely nothing to do with devs, it's publishers who are forcing microtransactions into games people paid upwards of 60 dollars for
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Who cares? The first game was HORRIBLE and insanely boring, I was mindblown that people actually liked that tech demo trash. This is a boring series nobody should care about.
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ThePredominate posted...

Who cares? The first game was HORRIBLE and insanely boring, I was mindblown that people actually liked that tech demo trash. This is a boring series nobody should care about.

Even if you don't like it, how can you not feel for these devs who poured their heart and souls into this project for 4+ years only to have some faceless soulless suits give you orders that your game needs to be hobbled to add microtransactions and basically shit all over their hard work?
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This is why you should game on PC and just use a trainer to bypass the micro transactions.
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D-Lo_BrownTown posted...

This is why you should game on PC and just use a trainer to bypass the micro transactions.

I would if I could afford a decent gaming rig
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Complaining about micro transactions and DLC = poor
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REMercsChamp posted...

Complaining about micro transactions and DLC = poor

Nice bait.
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ZombiePelican posted...

D-Lo_BrownTown posted...

This is why you should game on PC and just use a trainer to bypass the micro transactions.

I would if I could afford a decent gaming rig

I mean, you can build a decent gaming rig for 500 bucks as long as you don't care about 4k or any stupid shit that you already shouldn't have cared about with consoles.

but it might be cheaper in the long run to just avoid shadow of war entirely in this case.

truth be told, the only single player games I've personally encountered with microtransactions were the assassins creed games and deus ex. it's mostly done with online and they have anti cheat and you get banned and shit.
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D-Lo_BrownTown posted...

but it might be cheaper in the long run to just avoid shadow of war entirely in this case.

I'm just going to wait a year and pick it up with all the DLC bundled for 20 bucks
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TC, I agree with you... but it's just not going to go away and my gaming addiction isn't either. I just choose not to buy the stuff. As long as it's not something required in-game, then I can ignore it and enjoy the game.

GTA Online, though, they went insane with their hunger for shark cards. I quit a while back because things just got insanely expensive and the grind was even worse. I recently came back because I glitched a bunch of money, and it's just far more enjoyable to play now that I have everything and can afford to play the game a GTA is meant to be played.
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kinetika_ posted...

but it's just not going to go away

Not with that defeatist attitude it won't

kinetika_ posted...

I just choose not to buy the stuff. As long as it's not something required in-game, then I can ignore it and enjoy the game.

Yes, I just live hours of unnecessary grinding designed for the sole purpose of pitting your patience agsinst your wallet


kinetika_ posted...

I glitched a bunch of money, and it's just far more enjoyable to play now that I have everything and can afford to play the game a GTA is meant to be played.

It's almost like it was designed to goad you into buying shark cards
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Remember when you could earn everything a game has to offer by actual gameplay and accomplishments? Good times. Now you just buy it.
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Jagr_68 posted...

Preorder cancelled.

*awaits GoTY Edition for $25 like the first game*

Indeed. Thanks for contributing to this toxic culture of gaming, Warner Bros.
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didn't wb find a way to make fatalities into micro transactions in the last mortal kombat?
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D-Lo_BrownTown posted...

didn't wb find a way to make fatalities into micro transactions in the last mortal kombat?

Yep,they made "easy fatalities" and also you could pay 20 dollars to unlock everything in the Krypt but then turned around and made payouts of ingame currency in retail copies much less than review copies
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ZombiePelican posted...

D-Lo_BrownTown posted...

didn't wb find a way to make fatalities into micro transactions in the last mortal kombat?

Yep,they made "easy fatalities" and also you could pay 20 dollars to unlock everything in the Krypt but then turned around and made payouts of ingame currency in retail copies much less than review copies

Do you have anything to corroborate this? This seems like something Jim Sterling would touch on in his Jimquisition videos (publisher avarice is a favourite subject of his), yet I don't remember him talking about that at all.
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Alucard188 posted...

I don't see the point in paying for boosting services in a single player game. Never have. Namco has offered that shit in the Tales series ever since micro-transactions and DLC have been a thing, and it's dumb.

which tales of game has real money currency ? i thought it was just costumes
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Alucard188 posted...

ZombiePelican posted...

D-Lo_BrownTown posted...

didn't wb find a way to make fatalities into micro transactions in the last mortal kombat?

Yep,they made "easy fatalities" and also you could pay 20 dollars to unlock everything in the Krypt but then turned around and made payouts of ingame currency in retail copies much less than review copies

Do you have anything to corroborate this? This seems like something Jim Sterling would touch on in his Jimquisition videos (publisher avarice is a favourite subject of his), yet I don't remember him talking about that at all.

I'm a big fan of Jim Sterling as well, anyway I can't remember where I heard it, I'm pretty sure Angry Joe or TB mentioned it in one of their videos
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ZombiePelican posted...

I'm a big fan of Jim Sterling as well, anyway I can't remember where I heard it, I'm pretty sure Angry Joe or TB mentioned it in one of their videos

I could tell, because a lot of the language you used is pulled directly from his videos.

marc55 posted...

Alucard188 posted...

I don't see the point in paying for boosting services in a single player game. Never have. Namco has offered that shit in the Tales series ever since micro-transactions and DLC have been a thing, and it's dumb.

which tales of game has real money currency ? i thought it was just costumes

It's not real money currency, per se - you just pay them money for a one-time boost of your characters. First game I recall them throwing micro-transactions in was Tales of Graces f. It basically boosted your character levels and gave you a bunch of crafting items, or whatever it was. It's been a staple in every Tales game since. Go check out Tales games on the PSN store and look at the DLC offerings.
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