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EyeWontBeFooled
08/06/17 1:37:04 AM
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iosifsvoboda posted...
Actually it's a great time to pick the name Isis--to show the terrorists we aren't going to let them ruin our shit by using Isis

They're called daesh anyway

Try telling Uncle-Dad Bob Smith in Hicksville, Alabama that. Not going to register.
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iosifsvoboda
08/06/17 1:39:46 AM
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EyeWontBeFooled posted...
iosifsvoboda posted...
Actually it's a great time to pick the name Isis--to show the terrorists we aren't going to let them ruin our shit by using Isis

They're called daesh anyway

Try telling Uncle-Dad Bob Smith in Hicksville, Alabama that. Not going to register.


The only thing that's going to register with him is roll tide
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EnterTheTekken
08/06/17 1:44:25 AM
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The Al-Ghuls weren't Muslim?
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Ving_Rhames
08/06/17 1:44:43 AM
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Why NOT Isis? Why not take that name back? Tf lol
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Sephiroth1288
08/06/17 1:45:52 AM
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EnterTheTekken posted...
The Al-Ghuls weren't Muslim?

Yep.

SJWs don't know that, of course. They don;t actually read comics.
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BB mofo
08/06/17 2:25:12 AM
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ChromaticAngel posted...
It's kind of something like Catholics with church on Sunday.


Actually, Church is required if they want to take Communion.

Catholics believe if they commit a sin and die before their next Communion, the sin follows them into death. Their soul has to spend time in Purgatory, which is like mini-Hell, to burn off the sin before they can go to Heaven. If they commit a mortal sin (like adultery or murder), they go to Hell. However, Communion wipes the slate clean. That's why Last Rites and Communion are a big deal, because the dying don't want to die with sins on the ledger.

This is also why their is the old cliche about an Italian hitman killing someone, and then immediately going to confession to tell the priest that they murdered someone. That's because in Catholicism, they can murder someone and still go to Heaven as long as they take Communion and don't commit a sin afterwards. But the Communion wouldn't be valid unless they go to Confession first.
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HBOSS
08/06/17 2:34:35 AM
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I thought the character was Tala from jlu and making her with a muslim background

...lol
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DarkDragon400
08/06/17 2:38:16 AM
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Dash_Harber posted...
ForestLogic posted...
iamintents posted...
hey its not the rest of the creative world's fault that those radical terrorists took that name


You're right, we should bring back the swastika. Not kanji's fault that nazis took that symbol.


Swastika is not based on the Kanji, it's actually based on Sowilo/Sigel, the Norse/Anglo-Saxon Rune that represents the sun.

I just looked up the sigel and it looks more like the SS symbol than a swastika.
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Autocraticus
08/06/17 2:57:03 AM
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A "Muslim-American?"

Can I start identifying as a Catholic-American?
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Dash_Harber
08/06/17 6:28:32 AM
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DarkDragon400 posted...
Dash_Harber posted...
ForestLogic posted...
iamintents posted...
hey its not the rest of the creative world's fault that those radical terrorists took that name


You're right, we should bring back the swastika. Not kanji's fault that nazis took that symbol.


Swastika is not based on the Kanji, it's actually based on Sowilo/Sigel, the Norse/Anglo-Saxon Rune that represents the sun.

I just looked up the sigel and it looks more like the SS symbol than a swastika.


Given that the Nazi had a misplaced belief that they were Vikings and that they were obsessed with German heritage, it's pretty safe to assume they adopted the symbol based on it's Germanic symbol.
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Lorenzo_2003
08/06/17 8:01:22 AM
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1337toothbrush posted...
Lorenzo_2003 posted...
ChromaticAngel posted...

It's kind of something like Catholics with church on Sunday. It's not required. They'll tell you it is, but usually don't enforce it. If they do enforce it, they're usually assholes.


I never understand that thinking. Following a group's policies, doctrines, traditions, whatever is kind of the whole point of being in that group in the first place. They are advocating an ideology, a way of living your life. If you refuse to follow it, that's perfectly fine to me, but then it makes no sense to say you are a member of that group. Granted, you might fail in upholding that ideology (as humans are known to do), but the group is supposed to push (or pull) you into finding your way back onto the "right" path. Calling them assholes for doing that makes it seem like you don't understand what that group even stands for.


This falls apart when you realize that religions, including Islam, have multiple sects and they have differing beliefs/interpretations.


Sure, but the example was Catholics. That's a specific denomination of Christianity, with its own doctrines, traditions and hierarchy of leadership. If we are just talking about groups in general, then I agree with you that there could be various subgroups that deviate from their parent group. Islam, like Christianity, is like that, but if you're not going to follow the teachings of Sunni Islam, for example, then it wouldn't make sense to call yourself a Sunni Muslim.
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Kelystic
08/06/17 8:06:52 AM
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she is playing Hack from Suicide Squad Rebirth?
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ChromaticAngel
08/06/17 8:31:28 AM
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BB mofo posted...
Actually, Church is required if they want to take Communion.

Catholics believe if they commit a sin and die before their next Communion, the sin follows them into death. Their soul has to spend time in Purgatory, which is like mini-Hell, to burn off the sin before they can go to Heaven. If they commit a mortal sin (like adultery or murder), they go to Hell. However, Communion wipes the slate clean. That's why Last Rites and Communion are a big deal, because the dying don't want to die with sins on the ledger.


Nah. Purgatory is a place you go to if you die before being baptized. Then once you're baptized posthumously, you go to heaven. It was created by Papal decree to appease people complaining that why should their kids who died so young before they could get baptized go to hell?

Purgatory was also later reversed by Papal decree.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/1549439/The-Pope-ends-state-of-limbo-after-800-years.html
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Dash_Harber
08/07/17 6:23:44 AM
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DarkDragon400 posted...
Dash_Harber posted...
ForestLogic posted...
iamintents posted...
hey its not the rest of the creative world's fault that those radical terrorists took that name


You're right, we should bring back the swastika. Not kanji's fault that nazis took that symbol.


Swastika is not based on the Kanji, it's actually based on Sowilo/Sigel, the Norse/Anglo-Saxon Rune that represents the sun.

I just looked up the sigel and it looks more like the SS symbol than a swastika.

It's literally two Sawilo Runes put together. Considering the Nazis vehementally ambraced the idea that they were the descendants of the Vikings and openly embraced their Saxon heritage, it's pretty safe to assume that was the purpose. Also, considering that Hitler and most of his party didn't go to Japan before the rise of the party, I think it's a safe bet.
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DarkDragon400
08/07/17 9:18:07 AM
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Dash_Harber posted...
DarkDragon400 posted...
Dash_Harber posted...
ForestLogic posted...
iamintents posted...
hey its not the rest of the creative world's fault that those radical terrorists took that name


You're right, we should bring back the swastika. Not kanji's fault that nazis took that symbol.


Swastika is not based on the Kanji, it's actually based on Sowilo/Sigel, the Norse/Anglo-Saxon Rune that represents the sun.

I just looked up the sigel and it looks more like the SS symbol than a swastika.

It's literally two Sawilo Runes put together. Considering the Nazis vehementally ambraced the idea that they were the descendants of the Vikings and openly embraced their Saxon heritage, it's pretty safe to assume that was the purpose. Also, considering that Hitler and most of his party didn't go to Japan before the rise of the party, I think it's a safe bet.

But the swastika isn't strictly a Japanese thing. It's been appearing pretty much everywhere since the beginning of time. So I find it unlikely that the nazi swastika would be based on the sigel when the swastika has already been appearing in European art for thousands of years prior.
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Anarchy_Juiblex
08/07/17 9:25:05 AM
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Religions, as they are now, make no fucking sense in either DC or Marvel.

Most superheroes are capable of miracles that absolutely shame Jesus or Mohammad or Moses, hell, many of them shame Yahweh/Elohim.

It's a subject best left ignored in comics.
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Ammonitida
08/07/17 9:30:17 AM
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Anarchy_Juiblex posted...
Religions, as they are now, make no fucking sense in either DC or Marvel.

Most superheroes are capable of miracles that absolutely shame Jesus or Mohammad or Moses, hell, many of them shame Yahweh/Elohim.

It's a subject best left ignored in comics.


Indeed. I have the same problem with real life religion in comics, especially in the DC universe when so many aliens are practically Gods themselves. Christian or Islamic theology just doesn't fit in such a Universe. There's also no need for a Muslim character, let alone one named after a rogue terrorist state that is responsible for genocide. Since the left wing is more focused on the race of most practitioners of Islam, just make her Middle Eastern. No need to invoke Allah.
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Lorenzo_2003
08/07/17 11:09:34 AM
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Ammonitida posted...
There's also no need for a Muslim character, let alone one named after a rogue terrorist state that is responsible for genocide.


Nope.

Ms. Ashe’s character has nothing to do with the terrorist group ISIS, or Islamic State. The superhero existed for years as a woman who draws power from an Egyptian amulet, although Mr. Guggenheim said the injection of religion into the television version’s origin was inspired by his sister-in-law.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/aug/4/dcs-legends-of-tomorrow-producer-admits-muslim-cha/
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teepan95
08/07/17 12:09:50 PM
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Rika_Furude posted...
Mr Sandbag posted...
Yeah I doubt she is a Muslim.

Do you have proof, which you can post ITT, of this claim? Or are you just biased against Muslims?
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LIsJustice
08/07/17 12:14:26 PM
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The CW description had her character be from the year 3000. Should be an interesting addition to the team!
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DreadedWave
08/07/17 12:14:33 PM
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Anarchy_Juiblex posted...
Religions, as they are now, make no fucking sense in either DC or Marvel.

Most superheroes are capable of miracles that absolutely shame Jesus or Mohammad or Moses, hell, many of them shame Yahweh/Elohim.

It's a subject best left ignored in comics.

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/NoSuchThingAsWizardJesus
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Medz2017
08/07/17 12:21:16 PM
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Will the show will blow up with her on?
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marc55
08/07/17 1:44:01 PM
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Ammonitida posted...
There's also no need for a Muslim character, let alone one named after a rogue terrorist state that is responsible for genocide

??

never went to school right ? i cant find another explanation for someone not knowing isis is an egyptian goddess
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Dash_Harber
08/08/17 1:22:44 AM
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DarkDragon400 posted...
Dash_Harber posted...
DarkDragon400 posted...
Dash_Harber posted...
ForestLogic posted...
iamintents posted...
hey its not the rest of the creative world's fault that those radical terrorists took that name


You're right, we should bring back the swastika. Not kanji's fault that nazis took that symbol.


Swastika is not based on the Kanji, it's actually based on Sowilo/Sigel, the Norse/Anglo-Saxon Rune that represents the sun.

I just looked up the sigel and it looks more like the SS symbol than a swastika.

It's literally two Sawilo Runes put together. Considering the Nazis vehementally ambraced the idea that they were the descendants of the Vikings and openly embraced their Saxon heritage, it's pretty safe to assume that was the purpose. Also, considering that Hitler and most of his party didn't go to Japan before the rise of the party, I think it's a safe bet.

But the swastika isn't strictly a Japanese thing. It's been appearing pretty much everywhere since the beginning of time. So I find it unlikely that the nazi swastika would be based on the sigel when the swastika has already been appearing in European art for thousands of years prior.

Yes, the symbol predates both. The Sawillo and the Hindu symbol have a common ancestry. However, I was correcting the statement that the Swastika was based on the Kanji (which is 100% false).

Also, considering they literally lifted the SS symbol from the sig rune, they probably ripped the swastika directly off the Norse/Germanic alphabet.
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Samurontai
08/08/17 1:27:55 AM
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Hey posted...
Really had to go with ISIS?


Isis

Does nobody know that Isis is the name of a goddess?

It's not ISIS, it's Isis
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Tezlok
08/08/17 1:32:13 AM
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The swastika comes from ancient India not japan. They use it in Japan but it didn't originate there
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Axiom
08/08/17 1:34:19 AM
#78:


Samurontai posted...
Hey posted...
Really had to go with ISIS?


Isis

Does nobody know that Isis is the name of a goddess?

It's not ISIS, it's Isis

I really wish ISIL became the mainstream name instead of ISIS. It annoyed me that Archer dropped ISIS because of it and now when someone says Isis people automatically think the terrorist group
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Dash_Harber
08/08/17 4:40:03 AM
#79:


Tezlok posted...
The swastika comes from ancient India not japan. They use it in Japan but it didn't originate there


Yeah, that is what I was pointing out. Well, at least, I figured that the whole "Viking Romanticism" of the Nazis had something to do with the adoption of Norse/Germanic runes, as well. I could be wrong about that, but it's pretty clear that the Nazis didn't base the swastika on the Japanese symbol.

I looked it up earlier and Wiki said Hitler based it on the ancient Germanic sun symbol, which would be closely related to the Germanic rune, anyway. That being said, I don't know where the common ancestry is and they are all fucking sun symbols, anyway. I just wanted to point out it had nothing to do with the Japanese.
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NeonOctopus
08/08/17 4:44:37 AM
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She's cute but did they seriously have to call her super hero name Isis? >____________>

Like, really bro? That would be like calling a white hero "Triple K" lol
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Samurontai
08/08/17 4:54:04 AM
#81:


Axiom posted...
Samurontai posted...
Hey posted...
Really had to go with ISIS?


Isis

Does nobody know that Isis is the name of a goddess?

It's not ISIS, it's Isis

I really wish ISIL became the mainstream name instead of ISIS. It annoyed me that Archer dropped ISIS because of it and now when someone says Isis people automatically think the terrorist group


Same, honestly

NeonOctopus posted...
She's cute but did they seriously have to call her super hero name Isis? >____________>

Like, really bro? That would be like calling a white hero "Triple K" lol


No, it'd be like calling a white hero Thor.... oh wait.
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Samurontai
08/08/17 4:56:55 AM
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Dash_Harber
08/08/17 5:04:28 AM
#83:


Samurontai posted...
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isis

Inb4butwikipedia

Apparently she's even still worshipped today so yeah


I mean, isn't this pretty common knowledge, though? Ra/Amon-Ra, Horus, Osiris, and Isis are pretty much the only Egyptian deities that most people outside of academia are aware of. They are essentially the ancient Egyptian equivalent of Thor, Loki and Odin, or Zeus, Artemis, Aries, and Aphrodite.
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NeonOctopus
08/08/17 5:07:10 AM
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Everyone knows who Isis is, duh.

But everyone also knows who ISIS is tho >_>

In recent times instead of people associating Isis with being the goddess of health and wisdom, she's associated with being the goddess of terrorism lol
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Dash_Harber
08/08/17 5:07:43 AM
#85:


NeonOctopus posted...
Everyone knows who Isis is, duh.

But everyone also knows who ISIS is tho >_>

In recent times instead of people associating Isis with being the god of health and wisdom, she's associated with being the god of terrorism lol


Yeah, I never said otherwise.
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Samurontai
08/08/17 5:16:10 AM
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Dash_Harber posted...
Samurontai posted...
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isis

Inb4butwikipedia

Apparently she's even still worshipped today so yeah


I mean, isn't this pretty common knowledge, though? Ra/Amon-Ra, Horus, Osiris, and Isis are pretty much the only Egyptian deities that most people outside of academia are aware of. They are essentially the ancient Egyptian equivalent of Thor, Loki and Odin, or Zeus, Artemis, Aries, and Aphrodite.


I mean, probably, but some people legitimately don't know that Isis was the name of an Egyptian goddess.


NeonOctopus posted...
Everyone knows who Isis is, duh.

But everyone also knows who ISIS is tho >_>

In recent times instead of people associating Isis with being the goddess of health and wisdom, she's associated with being the goddess of terrorism lol


Then isn't this a good thing, as it's taking the name and re associating it with what it should be associated with (Isis the goddess rather than ISIL)
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Kolibri X
08/08/17 5:20:14 AM
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A muslim hero named after an Egyptian god... what?
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Lorenzo_2003
08/08/17 1:01:24 PM
#88:


Kolibri X posted...
A muslim hero named after an Egyptian god... what?


It doesn't make much sense to me either, but it might be a safer option for the studio. If you make her truly representative of a mainstream deity, prophet or culture, a bunch of people are bound to get pissed off. I mean Charlie Hebdo wasn't that long ago.
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faizan_faizan
08/08/17 1:14:09 PM
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She's very pretty.
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lightwarrior78
08/08/17 1:41:21 PM
#90:


Kolibri X posted...
A muslim hero named after an Egyptian god... what?


The original character in the comics was Egyptian

http://dc.wikia.com/wiki/Isis_(Adrianna_Tomaz)

They're making her Muslin specifically to fuck with Trump supporters because it's not like she's be a less diverse character as an Egyptian.
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BB mofo
08/08/17 8:32:18 PM
#91:


ChromaticAngel posted...

Nah. Purgatory is a place you go to if you die before being baptized. Then once you're baptized posthumously, you go to heaven. It was created by Papal decree to appease people complaining that why should their kids who died so young before they could get baptized go to hell?


That's the Limbo of the Innocents. Purgatory is the place of purification. It's temporary and it's hell-lite.
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Dash_Harber
08/09/17 1:30:12 AM
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lightwarrior78 posted...
Kolibri X posted...
A muslim hero named after an Egyptian god... what?


The original character in the comics was Egyptian

http://dc.wikia.com/wiki/Isis_(Adrianna_Tomaz)

They're making her Muslin specifically to fuck with Trump supporters because it's not like she's be a less diverse character as an Egyptian.


Also, you know, modern Egypt is more Muslim than it is Dynastic-era pagan.
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Tezlok
08/09/17 1:32:59 AM
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It would have been more interesting if she worshiped the ancient gods.
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Tezlok
08/09/17 1:34:04 AM
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Dash_Harber posted...
lightwarrior78 posted...
Kolibri X posted...
A muslim hero named after an Egyptian god... what?


The original character in the comics was Egyptian

http://dc.wikia.com/wiki/Isis_(Adrianna_Tomaz)

They're making her Muslin specifically to fuck with Trump supporters because it's not like she's be a less diverse character as an Egyptian.


Also, you know, modern Egypt is more Muslim than it is Dynastic-era pagan.

She's not from modern Egypt though
She is from the year 3000 just like Fry in Futurama. They could have written in the plot that in the next thousand years Egypt has a pagan revival
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Dash_Harber
08/09/17 1:37:46 AM
#95:


Tezlok posted...
Dash_Harber posted...
lightwarrior78 posted...
Kolibri X posted...
A muslim hero named after an Egyptian god... what?


The original character in the comics was Egyptian

http://dc.wikia.com/wiki/Isis_(Adrianna_Tomaz)

They're making her Muslin specifically to fuck with Trump supporters because it's not like she's be a less diverse character as an Egyptian.


Also, you know, modern Egypt is more Muslim than it is Dynastic-era pagan.

She's not from modern Egypt though
She is from the year 3000 just like Fry in Futurama. They could have written in the plot that in the next thousand years Egypt has a pagan revival


Yeah, they could. Either way, though, it sort of makes sense. Both those religions have a strong claim there. Either one could become popular over 3,000 years. Hell, they could have a sect that split off from mainstream Islam and mixes in Egyptian deities as prophets or divine beings or something like that. 1000 years is a long ass time for any religion to remain completely stagnant.
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