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lilORANG
07/30/17 5:37:55 PM
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Is he actually that stupid?


Talking to my dad this weekend (who despises Trump) and he thinks Trump does outlandish things to distract. I think Trump is actually just stupid af. Which is it?

Seems like an actual smart man wouldn't need distractions in the first place, might actually have gotten the ball rolling on a single policy initiative he's proposed, and wouldn't have hired a team that have resigned or had to be fired within 6 months.

On the other hand, the media can spend like a full news day dissecting one tweet, so maybe he's doing stuff that isn't getting reported.

But nah, I think he's just actually dumb as shit.
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gatorsPENSbucs
07/30/17 5:40:52 PM
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He wouldn't be where he is now if he was dumb. Anyone voting yes is just a troll vote.
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lilORANG
07/30/17 5:42:12 PM
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gatorsPENSbucs posted...
He wouldn't be where he is now if he was dumb. Anyone voting yes is just a troll vote.

as the president with the lowest 6 month approval ratings ever?

What a brilliant strategy.
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Gafemage
07/30/17 5:42:27 PM
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gatorsPENSbucs posted...
He wouldn't be where he is now if he was dumb. Anyone voting yes is just a troll vote.


Lol
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Bishop9800
07/30/17 5:42:49 PM
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Gafemage posted...
gatorsPENSbucs posted...
He wouldn't be where he is now if he was dumb. Anyone voting yes is just a troll vote.


Lol

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ImTheMacheteGuy
07/30/17 5:43:43 PM
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gatorsPENSbucs posted...
He wouldn't be where he is now if he was dumb. Anyone voting yes is just a troll vote.


gatorsPENSbucs...
is just a troll

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Gamer99z
07/30/17 5:45:15 PM
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I think it depends on the exact topic. I honestly think that generally speaking he's a relatively smart man. Just a lot of important things he's misguided, uninformed, and just had some dumb views on.
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BLAKUboy
07/30/17 5:46:14 PM
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At best he's senile af.
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NonDairyMiltank
07/30/17 5:58:47 PM
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i hate Trump, but even i realize he played the US like a fiddle

he's no evil genius, he's a fuckin pumpkin
but you gotta have some brains for con artistry at the national level...

angry people who refuse to acknowledge he's a wily schemer are just leavin themselves open for the next Trump
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lilORANG
07/30/17 6:36:35 PM
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ChromaticAngel
07/30/17 7:01:58 PM
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Trump is a salesman. He's not a politician. He can sell products very well, but when it comes to running a country he's dumb as bricks.
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Sephiroth1288
07/30/17 7:03:22 PM
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"Any idiot could take a loan of a million dollars and turn it into a billion", says a guy who took a student loan of $40,000 and turned it into a debt of -$80,000.
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lilORANG
07/30/17 7:04:53 PM
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Sephiroth1288 posted...
"Any idiot could take a loan of a million dollars and turn it into a billion", says a guy who took a student loan of $40,000 and turned it into a debt of -$80,000.

i'm confused. are you that student or are you quoting some hypothetical non-existent student?
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twitterfriends
07/30/17 7:05:20 PM
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Bishop9800 posted...
Gafemage posted...
gatorsPENSbucs posted...
He wouldn't be where he is now if he was dumb. Anyone voting yes is just a troll vote.


Lol

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UnfairRepresent
07/30/17 7:13:40 PM
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He's a lot smarter than people give him credit for.

He knows how to rile people up and has made himself not only president but the most talked about man across the globe for 2 years straight

And during this entire time he has done over a dozen idiotic dangerous things but nothing has stuck because he has made people go crazy over nothing every few days so it is all just white noise.

He's smart, he understands the masses and ultimately how little they matter once you turn them on themselves.
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ChromaticAngel
07/30/17 7:16:18 PM
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Sephiroth1288 posted...
"Any idiot could take a loan of a million dollars and turn it into a billion", says a guy who took a student loan of $40,000 and turned it into a debt of -$80,000.

He got a lot more than a million dollars, he also had access to all his dad's business connections. It's actually those connections that helped him out a great deal more than the million dollars he got. There is a pretty good chance Trump would have been a financial success even without the loan just by knowing the people his dad knew.
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ElderPrice
07/30/17 7:19:36 PM
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I don't like to use the "s-word" (stupid) but I would agree that he seems very confused. I pray for him with a group of Elders to find his way and for America to be safe.
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UnfairRepresent
07/30/17 7:19:44 PM
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ChromaticAngel posted...
Sephiroth1288 posted...
"Any idiot could take a loan of a million dollars and turn it into a billion", says a guy who took a student loan of $40,000 and turned it into a debt of -$80,000.

He got a lot more than a million dollars, he also had access to all his dad's business connections. It's actually those connections that helped him out a great deal more than the million dollars he got. There is a pretty good chance Trump would have been a financial success even without the loan just by knowing the people his dad knew.

Not only the "connections" and "Million dollar loan" he also got given prime real estate.

And even so fucked up several times and was bailed out. He's a medicore businsessman.

To rephrase your snide point to make it more accurate "Most businsessmen given prime real estate, strong businsess connections and millions of dollars would be successful" is absolutely true.
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lilORANG
07/30/17 7:23:04 PM
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I mean, it's pretty much accepted by all that it's harder to be successful when you start out in a shit position. So why wouldn't the corollary be true? It's easier to be successful when you start out in a great place. Like having a headstart in the race.
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hockeybub89
07/30/17 7:30:23 PM
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Trump must be stupid or incompetent because he isn't very good at distracting people. He and his administration constantly do dumb shit and still can't get literally anything done while they think everyone is looking away.
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Vicious_Dios
07/30/17 7:47:45 PM
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If that guy, a known billionaire, famous celebrity, real estate mogul, POTUS, is dumb, then what the fuck are we?

I swear, you rabid haters just throw out insults, dumb and 'Fuck Trump' like Tootsie Rolls on Halloween without any sort of noticeable effect...

You know how many lifetimes you people would need to even earn a fraction of what he earns. Most of you still live with your mommies and daddies without any sort of meaningful responsibilities, and you're gonna call Trump, dumb? Fuck outta here. Lmao
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Dathrowed1
07/30/17 7:58:07 PM
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He is probably smarter than people give him credit for. I mean he is not as dumb as OJ Simpson.
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Anteaterking
07/30/17 8:00:24 PM
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I think it's important to define what you mean by smart/stupid before you can really debate it.

If you asked me if someone was smart, I wouldn't usually look at how successful someone was. Sometimes that can be an indicator, but there are plenty of people who are very successful without being smart, because they bring some other talent to the table.

In Trump's case, he's probably as smart as the average American. He doesn't seem like he would perform well on any standard metric of intelligence (granted, some of that has to do with his age).

As far as his political intelligence is concerned, while he may have the people skills to tap into the fears of the middle class enough to become President, those same skills have not translated well to the actual presidency. It would be one thing if each of these distractions were helping him cover up for bad bills that were being passed or something, but instead the distractions are getting in the way of his policies. I can't remember who said this, but it seems like things like the transgender military incident and everything with the Mooch are distractions, but not as traps set for the media but rather Trump getting distracted.
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ThanksUglyGod
07/30/17 8:01:21 PM
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He's pretty stupid.

Like, at the very least he could try and get widespread Republican support, but even Republicans can't stand him.
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Bloodychess
07/30/17 8:01:47 PM
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He's smart enough to play the system and make millions as a business man

As a politician?

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
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cobain27
07/30/17 8:03:43 PM
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He's failed at everything he's done. He even managed to become president while losing the popular vote. He's never done anything to make me thing he's even of average intelligence.
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Darmik
07/30/17 8:03:58 PM
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Vicious_Dios posted...
If that guy, a known billionaire, famous celebrity, real estate mogul, POTUS, is dumb, then what the f*** are we?


People who don't have rich parents/family?

I think even the dumbest CEman on here would be rich if they started off in Trump's position. The easiest way to make money is to have money after all.
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cjsdowg
07/30/17 8:04:54 PM
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I don't know, I want to say it is an act to get people to fall in line. However you literally see this on school yard. Where people will follow someone who isn't that bright over the sane people.
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Giblet_Enjoyer
07/30/17 8:09:12 PM
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gatorsPENSbucs posted...
He wouldn't be where he is now if he was dumb. Anyone voting yes is just a troll vote.

The dude is like 70 something and his family has a history of mental issues in later life. He's not even as smart as he used to be. Also he was handed lots of money to begin with and bailed out by his daddy whenever he failed and had access to everything his dad acquired from the get-go
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TrevorBlack79
07/30/17 8:27:36 PM
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Bishop9800 posted...
Gafemage posted...
gatorsPENSbucs posted...
He wouldn't be where he is now if he was dumb. Anyone voting yes is just a troll vote.


Lol

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SSJ-Spiderman
07/31/17 12:58:53 AM
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gatorsPENSbucs posted...
He wouldn't be where he is now if he was dumb. Anyone voting yes is just a troll vote.
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Deadpool_18
07/31/17 1:18:35 AM
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He definitely doesn't demonstrate any of the qualities he used to get to where he is.
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metralo
07/31/17 1:21:08 AM
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NonDairyMiltank posted...
i hate Trump, but even i realize he played the US like a fiddle


I really don't think so. I think he's dumb as hell, and appealed to dumb as hell America. Its really telling that people love his speeches because "they feels so real" and because "He's talking to us like people". Well, so did Obama and everyone before them, but they sounded sorta educated.
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John_Galt
08/01/17 10:07:42 AM
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UnfairRepresent posted...
He's a lot smarter than people give him credit for.

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Superlinkbro
08/01/17 10:09:15 AM
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ChromaticAngel posted...
Trump is a salesman. He's not a politician. He can sell products very well, but when it comes to running a country he's dumb as bricks.

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brain_soiled
08/01/17 10:12:59 AM
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Someone explain why liberals are totally fine with sounding like completely oblivious, uneducated adolescents like this?
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Doom_Art
08/01/17 10:14:28 AM
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He's an idiot who can't run a country but he's quite good at talking himself up

As for the whole "he plays dumb to manipulate the media and distract" defense

A) *glances at his approval ratings* Oh yeah he's so good at manipulating public opinion
B) Distract from what? All his dumb shit and horrible crap his admin does is regularly reported on
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brain_soiled
08/01/17 10:17:36 AM
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Bullet_Wing posted...
brain_soiled posted...
Someone explain why liberals are totally fine with sounding like completely oblivious, uneducated adolescents like this?

This remark is hilariously hypocritical with your sig


Then they're always hoping to try to manufacture faux "irony" to try to quickly end a debate that would ever focus on the disease of liberalism. Sorry, libby manchild. The "I know you are but what am I??" card doesn't work here.
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HypnoCoosh
08/01/17 10:18:42 AM
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Trump's a horrible politician in the sense he can just do the jedi-mind tricks all the usual politicians use on the people.

He's cut and dry and says outlandish unfiltered shit. People are not used to that they are used to the usually slimy politicians that stick it in your bum and smile at you while they do it.

Mark my words in the end after Trumps presidency it will be looked back on not in the same hateful light it is now and he will not be this "worst president ever" like all the chicken-littles are crying everyday.
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ReignFury
08/01/17 10:19:09 AM
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Hes lucky to have inherited $40M
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TedCruz2016
08/01/17 10:23:13 AM
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hes a genius and you all are jealous haters.
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TrevorBlack79
08/01/17 10:27:55 AM
#44:


brain_soiled posted...
Someone explain why liberals are totally fine with sounding like completely oblivious, uneducated adolescents like this?


Because they're right. Trump's an idiot.
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rookieplayer03
08/01/17 10:30:09 AM
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I'll be honest, I feel that critics of Trump are saying the same things as before he was elected and I still haven't heard any real valid points to the president being racist, homophobic, etc. I was on the fence in the election and still on the fence with the president right now but I feel that people throwing out buzzwords and insults without substantiating anything makes me less inclined to believe the president is stupid, homophobe, etc.
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DifferentialEquation
08/01/17 10:35:03 AM
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Trump is much smarter than any of the recent presidents. And if he's not the smartest president, then he's definitely in the top 3.
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HypnoCoosh
08/01/17 10:35:41 AM
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brain_soiled posted...
Someone explain why liberals are totally fine with sounding like completely oblivious, uneducated adolescents like this?


@brain_soiled

Trump has been under attack from minute one.

He's not a standard politician in any sense of the word. Simply we've never seen anyone as rough as him we are used to smooth talking slimy politicians that tell you whatever you need to hear to get elected.

Trump cares about America and his thought process is unconventional in the standard sense of do nothing politics we are used to seeing. Heck the senate is still being a bunch of do nothing politicians.

One day looking back Trump will be regarded in a much different light than he is in these very nasty times we are living in now.
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HypnoCoosh
08/01/17 10:38:12 AM
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Bullet_Wing posted...
HypnoCoosh posted...
Trump cares about America

LMAO


Everyone is allowed their opinion even if we disagree.

You don't think he cares. I do, and so do other people.
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