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Antifar 07/24/17 9:38:55 PM #1:	@Transcendentia Saw that your topic got closed, and I'm bored so I figured I'd answer your questions. (for those dropping in: https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/400-current-events/75596757?page=5) How come you were dishonest with your quote, by the way? When you posted their platform. You quoted just a little sentence without sharing the entire block. If anything, the anti-Israel position they have is more leftist than it is right. I don't think I was being dishonest with what I cited, which was this: https://www.tradworker.org/platform/ The organized Jewish community’s record of deceit, duplicity, and double-standards in lobbying against American interests within the American political system is unmatched. Not all opposition to Israel is anti-semitic; I singled out this sentence because it clearly is, in my view. The idea that Jews are outsiders within their countries, working to undermine them, is a longstanding anti-Semitic trope. It goes back to before Nazi Germany, I'm sure, but it would not have been out of place there. In a discussion about whether these folks are Nazis, this was, I felt, the most compelling evidence. Opposition to Israel is very common on the left generally owing to solidarity with the Palestinean people. There are, yes, anti-Semites on the left, but to the extent that the Left is a coherent entity, it is anti-Zionist because it views Israel as a state of settlers, who have occupied Palestinean land and forced them to live as second-class citizens under a state that regularly violates their human rights. The TWP's platform makes no mention of Palestine; its opposition to Israel is rooted in American nationalism, not leftism. I also considered citing this bit: The State of Israel has a large and powerful Jewish population in America, many of whom are more loyal to Israel than they are to America. Again, the idea of Jews as unloyal traitors is here, and I cannot agree with that, even if, for other reasons, I would tend to support US policies that are less favorable to Israel. The entire block is certainly not a conservative position by any means. That's because they aren't conservatives! They're nationalists. Alt-righters. There are areas of overlap between the ideologies, but they have different names in part because they are different things. This is one area of disagreement. (It's not even something nationalists all agree on! Some are quite happy with the idea of Jews having a state to call their own, much as they want whites to, or they support Israel as a common ally against Muslims and the Arab world, though they have issues with Jews too.) Conservatives in the US, for the most part (and many Liberals), are staunch supporters of Israel. --- kin to all that throbs <cite>Antifar posted [p:883535682] in To clarify... [t:75601290]...</cite> <quote>@Transcendentia Saw that your topic got closed, and I'm bored so I figured I'd answer your questions. (for those dropping in: https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/400-current-events/75596757?page=5) <quote>How come you were dishonest with your quote, by the way? When you posted their platform. You quoted just a little sentence without sharing the entire block. If anything, the anti-Israel position they have is more leftist than it is right. </quote> I don't think I was being dishonest with what I cited, which was this: https://www.tradworker.org/platform/ <quote>The organized Jewish community’s record of deceit, duplicity, and double-standards in lobbying against American interests within the American political system is unmatched.</quote> Not all opposition to Israel is anti-semitic; I singled out this sentence because it clearly is, in my view. The idea that Jews are outsiders within their countries, working to undermine them, is a longstanding anti-Semitic trope. It goes back to before Nazi Germany, I'm sure, but it would not have been out of place there. In a discussion about whether these folks are Nazis, this was, I felt, the most compelling evidence. Opposition to Israel is very common on the left generally owing to solidarity with the Palestinean people. There are, yes, anti-Semites on the left, but to the extent that the Left is a coherent entity, it is anti-Zionist because it views Israel as a state of settlers, who have occupied Palestinean land and forced them to live as second-class citizens under a state that regularly violates their human rights. The TWP's platform makes no mention of Palestine; its opposition to Israel is rooted in American nationalism, not leftism. I also considered citing this bit: <quote>The State of Israel has a large and powerful Jewish population in America, many of whom are more loyal to Israel than they are to America.</quote> Again, the idea of Jews as unloyal traitors is here, and I cannot agree with that, even if, for other reasons, I would tend to support US policies that are less favorable to Israel. <quote>The entire block is certainly not a conservative position by any means.</quote> That's because they aren't conservatives! They're nationalists. Alt-righters. There are areas of overlap between the ideologies, but they have different names in part because they are different things. This is one area of disagreement. (It's not even something nationalists all agree on! Some are quite happy with the idea of Jews having a state to call their own, much as they want whites to, or they support Israel as a common ally against Muslims and the Arab world, though they have issues with Jews too.) Conservatives in the US, for the most part (and many Liberals), are staunch supporters of Israel.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Transcendentia 07/24/17 9:43:46 PM #2:	then you folks on the left should stop calling conservatives members of the alt right just because they're conservatives <cite>Transcendentia posted [p:883535932] in To clarify... [t:75601290]...</cite> <quote>then you folks on the left should stop calling conservatives members of the alt right just because they're conservatives</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Antifar 07/24/17 9:44:40 PM #3:	Transcendentia posted... then you folks on the left should stop calling conservatives members of the alt right just because they're conservatives I can agree with that, yes, but I think that a lot of time people being given that label deserve it and claim it for themselves. --- kin to all that throbs <cite>Antifar posted [p:883535980] in To clarify... [t:75601290]...</cite> <quote><cite>Transcendentia posted...</cite> <quote>then you folks on the left should stop calling conservatives members of the alt right just because they're conservatives</quote> I can agree with that, yes, but I think that a lot of time people being given that label deserve it and claim it for themselves.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mandasnake 07/24/17 9:45:07 PM #4:	the alt-right is a boogeyman. its mostly just a bunch of nerds on 4chan and shit. the left love making a giant boogeyman out of a tiny group of people. remember how feminists throw MRA accusations like no tomorrow? inb4 covxy says i have no self awareness or something. --- Paging...Dr. Snakes <cite>Mandasnake posted [p:883536011] in To clarify... [t:75601290]...</cite> <quote>the alt-right is a boogeyman. its mostly just a bunch of nerds on 4chan and shit. the left love making a giant boogeyman out of a tiny group of people. remember how feminists throw MRA accusations like no tomorrow? inb4 covxy says i have no self awareness or something.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Transcendentia 07/24/17 9:46:39 PM #5:	Antifar posted... Transcendentia posted... then you folks on the left should stop calling conservatives members of the alt right just because they're conservatives I can agree with that, yes, but I think that a lot of time people being given that label deserve it and claim it for themselves. how many of the leftists in my locked topic do you agree with? for example, do you agree with gunplagirl's tactic of labeling conservatives nazis or nazi apologists? because the point in that topic was that people are applying labels without any consistency or caution. <cite>Transcendentia posted [p:883536105] in To clarify... [t:75601290]...</cite> <quote><cite>Antifar posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Transcendentia posted...</cite> <quote>then you folks on the left should stop calling conservatives members of the alt right just because they're conservatives</quote> I can agree with that, yes, but I think that a lot of time people being given that label deserve it and claim it for themselves.</quote> how many of the leftists in my locked topic do you agree with? for example, do you agree with gunplagirl's tactic of labeling conservatives nazis or nazi apologists? because the point in that topic was that people are applying labels without any consistency or caution.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UncleBourbon33 07/24/17 9:47:36 PM #6:	Antifar posted... it is anti-Zionist because it views Israel as a state of settlers, who have occupied Palestinean land and forced them to live as second-class citizens under a state that regularly violates their human rights. This is a wrong view though --- http://i.imgur.com/HtxqKRp.gif <cite>UncleBourbon33 posted [p:883536147] in To clarify... [t:75601290]...</cite> <quote><cite>Antifar posted...</cite> <quote>it is anti-Zionist because it views Israel as a state of settlers, who have occupied Palestinean land and forced them to live as second-class citizens under a state that regularly violates their human rights.</quote> This is a wrong view though</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Transcendentia 07/24/17 9:48:27 PM #7:	UncleBourbon33 posted... Antifar posted... it is anti-Zionist because it views Israel as a state of settlers, who have occupied Palestinean land and forced them to live as second-class citizens under a state that regularly violates their human rights. This is a wrong view though yeah but it's a waste of time to try to argue against the left's anti semitism here <cite>Transcendentia posted [p:883536191] in To clarify... [t:75601290]...</cite> <quote><cite>UncleBourbon33 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Antifar posted...</cite> <quote>it is anti-Zionist because it views Israel as a state of settlers, who have occupied Palestinean land and forced them to live as second-class citizens under a state that regularly violates their human rights.</quote> This is a wrong view though</quote> yeah but it's a waste of time to try to argue against the left's anti semitism here</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
-GalacticBass- 07/24/17 9:51:36 PM #8:	:O --- Perfect_Edge <cite>-GalacticBass- posted [p:883536360] in To clarify... [t:75601290]...</cite> <quote>:O</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Transcendentia 07/24/17 9:52:40 PM #9:	-GalacticBass- posted... :O omggeehhh GalacticBass sighting throws master ball <cite>Transcendentia posted [p:883536418] in To clarify... [t:75601290]...</cite> <quote><cite>-GalacticBass- posted...</cite> <quote>:O</quote> omggeehhh GalacticBass sighting throws master ball</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
-GalacticBass- 07/24/17 9:55:05 PM #10:	Transcendentia posted... -GalacticBass- posted... :O omggeehhh GalacticBass sighting throws master ball throws a master ball at your master ball --- Perfect_Edge <cite>-GalacticBass- posted [p:883536561] in To clarify... [t:75601290]...</cite> <quote><cite>Transcendentia posted...</cite> <quote><cite>-GalacticBass- posted...</cite> <quote>:O</quote> omggeehhh GalacticBass sighting throws master ball</quote> throws a master ball at your master ball</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Transcendentia 07/24/17 9:55:41 PM #11:	-GalacticBass- posted... Transcendentia posted... -GalacticBass- posted... :O omggeehhh GalacticBass sighting throws master ball throws a master ball at your master ball my master ball catches you first, effectively sealing you inside of two master balls <cite>Transcendentia posted [p:883536594] in To clarify... [t:75601290]...</cite> <quote><cite>-GalacticBass- posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Transcendentia posted...</cite> <quote><cite>-GalacticBass- posted...</cite> <quote>:O</quote> omggeehhh GalacticBass sighting throws master ball</quote> throws a master ball at your master ball</quote> my master ball catches you first, effectively sealing you inside of two master balls</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dragonblade01 07/24/17 9:55:59 PM #12:	How about we just, I don't know, stop envisioning the opposing half of the political spectrum as some villainous caricature? --- PSN: kazukifafner <cite>Dragonblade01 posted [p:883536605] in To clarify... [t:75601290]...</cite> <quote>How about we just, I don't know, stop envisioning the opposing half of the political spectrum as some villainous caricature?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Samurontai 07/24/17 9:56:24 PM #13:	Transcendentia posted... UncleBourbon33 posted... Antifar posted... it is anti-Zionist because it views Israel as a state of settlers, who have occupied Palestinean land and forced them to live as second-class citizens under a state that regularly violates their human rights. This is a wrong view though yeah but it's a waste of time to try to argue against the left's anti semitism here Lol Are you one of those people who sees any bad talk about Israel as anti semetic? --- http://i.imgur.com/Scl5rwX.gif http://i.imgur.com/Fjgt7Qq.gif http://i.imgur.com/NidhAni.gif http://i.imgur.com/IGIbQPk.gif <cite>Samurontai posted [p:883536624] in To clarify... [t:75601290]...</cite> <quote><cite>Transcendentia posted...</cite> <quote><cite>UncleBourbon33 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Antifar posted...</cite> <quote>it is anti-Zionist because it views Israel as a state of settlers, who have occupied Palestinean land and forced them to live as second-class citizens under a state that regularly violates their human rights.</quote> This is a wrong view though</quote> yeah but it's a waste of time to try to argue against the left's anti semitism here</quote> Lol Are you one of those people who sees any bad talk about Israel as anti semetic?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Transcendentia 07/24/17 9:57:56 PM #14:	Dragonblade01 posted... How about we just, I don't know, stop envisioning the opposing half of the political spectrum as some villainous caricature? great idea! <cite>Transcendentia posted [p:883536716] in To clarify... [t:75601290]...</cite> <quote><cite>Dragonblade01 posted...</cite> <quote>How about we just, I don't know, stop envisioning the opposing half of the political spectrum as some villainous caricature?</quote> great idea!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
-GalacticBass- 07/24/17 9:58:09 PM #15:	Transcendentia posted... -GalacticBass- posted... Transcendentia posted... -GalacticBass- posted... :O omggeehhh GalacticBass sighting throws master ball throws a master ball at your master ball my master ball catches you first, effectively sealing you inside of two master balls farts inside master ball and deeply regrets it --- Perfect_Edge <cite>-GalacticBass- posted [p:883536732] in To clarify... [t:75601290]...</cite> <quote><cite>Transcendentia posted...</cite> <quote><cite>-GalacticBass- posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Transcendentia posted...</cite> <quote><cite>-GalacticBass- posted...</cite> <quote>:O</quote> omggeehhh GalacticBass sighting throws master ball</quote> throws a master ball at your master ball</quote> my master ball catches you first, effectively sealing you inside of two master balls</quote> farts inside master ball and deeply regrets it</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Samurontai 07/24/17 9:58:16 PM #16:	Dragonblade01 posted... How about we just, I don't know, stop envisioning the opposing half of the political spectrum as some villainous caricature? Idk, when people like Trump get elected, and then the opposing half of the political spectrum basically bows down to him even though he's doing a bunch of ridiculously stupid shit, and is trying his hardest to leave 20 million people without healthcare, it's hard to look at them and go "Yeah these guys aren't really evil at all" --- http://i.imgur.com/Scl5rwX.gif http://i.imgur.com/Fjgt7Qq.gif http://i.imgur.com/NidhAni.gif http://i.imgur.com/IGIbQPk.gif <cite>Samurontai posted [p:883536735] in To clarify... [t:75601290]...</cite> <quote><cite>Dragonblade01 posted...</cite> <quote>How about we just, I don't know, stop envisioning the opposing half of the political spectrum as some villainous caricature?</quote> Idk, when people like Trump get elected, and then the opposing half of the political spectrum basically bows down to him even though he's doing a bunch of ridiculously stupid shit, and is trying his hardest to leave 20 million people without healthcare, it's hard to look at them and go "Yeah these guys aren't really evil at all"</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Transcendentia 07/24/17 9:59:14 PM #17:	-GalacticBass- posted... Transcendentia posted... -GalacticBass- posted... Transcendentia posted... -GalacticBass- posted... :O omggeehhh GalacticBass sighting throws master ball throws a master ball at your master ball my master ball catches you first, effectively sealing you inside of two master balls farts inside master ball and deeply regrets it fart is sealed for the next millennia because of being in a master ball inside a master ball <cite>Transcendentia posted [p:883536783] in To clarify... [t:75601290]...</cite> <quote><cite>-GalacticBass- posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Transcendentia posted...</cite> <quote><cite>-GalacticBass- posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Transcendentia posted...</cite> <quote><cite>-GalacticBass- posted...</cite> <quote>:O</quote> omggeehhh GalacticBass sighting throws master ball</quote> throws a master ball at your master ball</quote> my master ball catches you first, effectively sealing you inside of two master balls</quote> farts inside master ball and deeply regrets it</quote> fart is sealed for the next millennia because of being in a master ball inside a master ball</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Transcendentia 07/24/17 9:59:21 PM #18:	Samurontai posted... Dragonblade01 posted... How about we just, I don't know, stop envisioning the opposing half of the political spectrum as some villainous caricature? Idk, when people like Trump get elected, and then the opposing half of the political spectrum basically bows down to him even though he's doing a bunch of ridiculously stupid shit, and is trying his hardest to leave 20 million people without healthcare, it's hard to look at them and go "Yeah these guys aren't really evil at all" see? @Antifar <cite>Transcendentia posted [p:883536793] in To clarify... [t:75601290]...</cite> <quote><cite>Samurontai posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Dragonblade01 posted...</cite> <quote>How about we just, I don't know, stop envisioning the opposing half of the political spectrum as some villainous caricature?</quote> Idk, when people like Trump get elected, and then the opposing half of the political spectrum basically bows down to him even though he's doing a bunch of ridiculously stupid shit, and is trying his hardest to leave 20 million people without healthcare, it's hard to look at them and go "Yeah these guys aren't really evil at all"</quote> see? @Antifar</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dragonblade01 07/24/17 10:00:43 PM #19:	Samurontai posted... Dragonblade01 posted... How about we just, I don't know, stop envisioning the opposing half of the political spectrum as some villainous caricature? Idk, when people like Trump get elected, and then the opposing half of the political spectrum basically bows down to him even though he's doing a bunch of ridiculously stupid shit, and is trying his hardest to leave 20 million people without healthcare, it's hard to look at them and go "Yeah these guys aren't really evil at all" I think it's pretty easy to look at them and think that as long as you understand the social and political climate that lead up to the election. --- PSN: kazukifafner <cite>Dragonblade01 posted [p:883536858] in To clarify... [t:75601290]...</cite> <quote><cite>Samurontai posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Dragonblade01 posted...</cite> <quote>How about we just, I don't know, stop envisioning the opposing half of the political spectrum as some villainous caricature?</quote> Idk, when people like Trump get elected, and then the opposing half of the political spectrum basically bows down to him even though he's doing a bunch of ridiculously stupid shit, and is trying his hardest to leave 20 million people without healthcare, it's hard to look at them and go "Yeah these guys aren't really evil at all"</quote> I think it's pretty easy to look at them and think that as long as you understand the social and political climate that lead up to the election.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
-GalacticBass- 07/24/17 10:00:50 PM #20:	Samurontai posted... Dragonblade01 posted... How about we just, I don't know, stop envisioning the opposing half of the political spectrum as some villainous caricature? Idk, when people like Trump get elected, and then the opposing half of the political spectrum basically bows down to him even though he's doing a bunch of ridiculously stupid shit, and is trying his hardest to leave 20 million people without healthcare, it's hard to look at them and go "Yeah these guys aren't really evil at all" You do you know that no one is losing their healthcare right? --- Perfect_Edge <cite>-GalacticBass- posted [p:883536865] in To clarify... [t:75601290]...</cite> <quote><cite>Samurontai posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Dragonblade01 posted...</cite> <quote>How about we just, I don't know, stop envisioning the opposing half of the political spectrum as some villainous caricature?</quote> Idk, when people like Trump get elected, and then the opposing half of the political spectrum basically bows down to him even though he's doing a bunch of ridiculously stupid shit, and is trying his hardest to leave 20 million people without healthcare, it's hard to look at them and go "Yeah these guys aren't really evil at all"</quote> You do you know that no one is losing their healthcare right?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Transcendentia 07/24/17 10:01:16 PM #21:	Dragonblade01 posted... Samurontai posted... Dragonblade01 posted... How about we just, I don't know, stop envisioning the opposing half of the political spectrum as some villainous caricature? Idk, when people like Trump get elected, and then the opposing half of the political spectrum basically bows down to him even though he's doing a bunch of ridiculously stupid shit, and is trying his hardest to leave 20 million people without healthcare, it's hard to look at them and go "Yeah these guys aren't really evil at all" I think it's pretty easy to look at them and think that as long as you understand the social and political climate that lead up to the election. omg nazi apologist!!11111 <cite>Transcendentia posted [p:883536889] in To clarify... [t:75601290]...</cite> <quote><cite>Dragonblade01 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Samurontai posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Dragonblade01 posted...</cite> <quote>How about we just, I don't know, stop envisioning the opposing half of the political spectrum as some villainous caricature?</quote> Idk, when people like Trump get elected, and then the opposing half of the political spectrum basically bows down to him even though he's doing a bunch of ridiculously stupid shit, and is trying his hardest to leave 20 million people without healthcare, it's hard to look at them and go "Yeah these guys aren't really evil at all"</quote> I think it's pretty easy to look at them and think that as long as you understand the social and political climate that lead up to the election.</quote> omg nazi apologist!!11111</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BLAKUboy 07/24/17 10:02:31 PM #22:	-GalacticBass- posted... You do you know that no one is losing their healthcare right? Only because Trumpcare is dead. They're still trying to prop it up with a stick though. --- Aeris dies if she takes more damage than her current HP - Panthera http://signavatar.com/26999_s.png <cite>BLAKUboy posted [p:883536961] in To clarify... [t:75601290]...</cite> <quote><cite>-GalacticBass- posted...</cite> <quote>You do you know that no one is losing their healthcare right?</quote> Only because Trumpcare is dead. They're still trying to prop it up with a stick though.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Antifar 07/24/17 10:02:36 PM #23:	Transcendentia posted... see? @Antifar Where is he wrong, though? Republicans have spent the past six months going along with a guy who can't speak sentences, and their agenda would push millions off of health insurance. I disagree with him in the idea that that is Trump's agenda; it's just republican orthodoxy. --- kin to all that throbs <cite>Antifar posted [p:883536963] in To clarify... [t:75601290]...</cite> <quote><cite>Transcendentia posted...</cite> <quote>see? @Antifar </quote> Where is he wrong, though? Republicans have spent the past six months going along with a guy who can't speak sentences, and their agenda would push millions off of health insurance. I disagree with him in the idea that that is Trump's agenda; it's just republican orthodoxy.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Samurontai 07/24/17 10:03:37 PM #24:	-GalacticBass- posted... Samurontai posted... Dragonblade01 posted... How about we just, I don't know, stop envisioning the opposing half of the political spectrum as some villainous caricature? Idk, when people like Trump get elected, and then the opposing half of the political spectrum basically bows down to him even though he's doing a bunch of ridiculously stupid shit, and is trying his hardest to leave 20 million people without healthcare, it's hard to look at them and go "Yeah these guys aren't really evil at all" You do you know that no one is losing their healthcare right? They'd lose coverage, you knew what I meant. If semantics are your best defense I'd just go ahead and take the L and stop posting lol Dragonblade01 posted... Samurontai posted... Dragonblade01 posted... How about we just, I don't know, stop envisioning the opposing half of the political spectrum as some villainous caricature? Idk, when people like Trump get elected, and then the opposing half of the political spectrum basically bows down to him even though he's doing a bunch of ridiculously stupid shit, and is trying his hardest to leave 20 million people without healthcare, it's hard to look at them and go "Yeah these guys aren't really evil at all" I think it's pretty easy to look at them and think that as long as you understand the social and political climate that lead up to the election. Fair enough --- http://i.imgur.com/Scl5rwX.gif http://i.imgur.com/Fjgt7Qq.gif http://i.imgur.com/NidhAni.gif http://i.imgur.com/IGIbQPk.gif <cite>Samurontai posted [p:883537022] in To clarify... [t:75601290]...</cite> <quote><cite>-GalacticBass- posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Samurontai posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Dragonblade01 posted...</cite> <quote>How about we just, I don't know, stop envisioning the opposing half of the political spectrum as some villainous caricature?</quote> Idk, when people like Trump get elected, and then the opposing half of the political spectrum basically bows down to him even though he's doing a bunch of ridiculously stupid shit, and is trying his hardest to leave 20 million people without healthcare, it's hard to look at them and go "Yeah these guys aren't really evil at all"</quote> You do you know that no one is losing their healthcare right?</quote> They'd lose coverage, you knew what I meant. If semantics are your best defense I'd just go ahead and take the L and stop posting lol <cite>Dragonblade01 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Samurontai posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Dragonblade01 posted...</cite> <quote>How about we just, I don't know, stop envisioning the opposing half of the political spectrum as some villainous caricature?</quote> Idk, when people like Trump get elected, and then the opposing half of the political spectrum basically bows down to him even though he's doing a bunch of ridiculously stupid shit, and is trying his hardest to leave 20 million people without healthcare, it's hard to look at them and go "Yeah these guys aren't really evil at all"</quote> I think it's pretty easy to look at them and think that as long as you understand the social and political climate that lead up to the election.</quote> Fair enough</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Transcendentia 07/24/17 10:04:03 PM #25:	Antifar posted... Transcendentia posted... see? @Antifar Where is he wrong, though? Republicans have spent the past six months going along with a guy who can't speak sentences, and their agenda would push millions off of health insurance. I disagree with him in the idea that that is Trump's agenda; it's just republican orthodoxy. lmao well then you made this topic for nothing <cite>Transcendentia posted [p:883537051] in To clarify... [t:75601290]...</cite> <quote><cite>Antifar posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Transcendentia posted...</cite> <quote>see? @Antifar </quote> Where is he wrong, though? Republicans have spent the past six months going along with a guy who can't speak sentences, and their agenda would push millions off of health insurance. I disagree with him in the idea that that is Trump's agenda; it's just republican orthodoxy.</quote> lmao well then you made this topic for nothing</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AlternativeFAQS 07/24/17 10:04:57 PM #26:	fuck israel <cite>AlternativeFAQS posted [p:883537104] in To clarify... [t:75601290]...</cite> <quote>fuck israel</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SomeLikeItHoth 07/24/17 10:05:15 PM #27:	Why is Antifar always so triggered? --- Trump/Pence 2016 Make America Great Again <cite>SomeLikeItHoth posted [p:883537120] in To clarify... [t:75601290]...</cite> <quote>Why is Antifar always so triggered?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Samurontai 07/24/17 10:05:34 PM #28:	Has @Transcendentia even made a post itt with any substance or is he just s shameless shit poster like that johnlennon dude? It's a pretty bad gimmick tbh --- http://i.imgur.com/Scl5rwX.gif http://i.imgur.com/Fjgt7Qq.gif http://i.imgur.com/NidhAni.gif http://i.imgur.com/IGIbQPk.gif <cite>Samurontai posted [p:883537137] in To clarify... [t:75601290]...</cite> <quote>Has @Transcendentia even made a post itt with any substance or is he just s shameless shit poster like that johnlennon dude? It's a pretty bad gimmick tbh</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Samurontai 07/24/17 10:05:43 PM #29:	AlternativeFAQS posted... fuck israel --- http://i.imgur.com/Scl5rwX.gif http://i.imgur.com/Fjgt7Qq.gif http://i.imgur.com/NidhAni.gif http://i.imgur.com/IGIbQPk.gif <cite>Samurontai posted [p:883537154] in To clarify... [t:75601290]...</cite> <quote><cite>AlternativeFAQS posted...</cite> <quote>fuck israel</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Antifar 07/24/17 10:06:09 PM #30:	Transcendentia posted... lmao well then you made this topic for nothing I guess so. No different from all the rest, in that department. --- kin to all that throbs <cite>Antifar posted [p:883537180] in To clarify... [t:75601290]...</cite> <quote><cite>Transcendentia posted...</cite> <quote>lmao well then you made this topic for nothing </quote> I guess so. No different from all the rest, in that department.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SomeLikeItHoth 07/24/17 10:06:37 PM #31:	Samurontai posted... Has @Transcendentia even made a post itt with any substance or is he just s shameless shit poster like that johnlennon dude? It's a pretty bad gimmick tbh Would you prefer he enter meltdown mode and start writing a few essays ala yourself and TC? --- "Maybe I keep seeing you die because I'm supposed to take your place." -- Desmond <cite>SomeLikeItHoth posted [p:883537205] in To clarify... [t:75601290]...</cite> <quote><cite>Samurontai posted...</cite> <quote>Has @Transcendentia even made a post itt with any substance or is he just s shameless shit poster like that johnlennon dude? It's a pretty bad gimmick tbh</quote> Would you prefer he enter meltdown mode and start writing a few essays ala yourself and TC?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Transcendentia 07/24/17 10:08:15 PM #32:	how long until samurontai and mr_lightbulb accuse conservatives of being anti semites <cite>Transcendentia posted [p:883537293] in To clarify... [t:75601290]...</cite> <quote>how long until samurontai and mr_lightbulb accuse conservatives of being anti semites</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
-GalacticBass- 07/24/17 10:11:19 PM #33:	Proudclad hath laid down the smack again. --- Perfect_Edge <cite>-GalacticBass- posted [p:883537452] in To clarify... [t:75601290]...</cite> <quote>Proudclad hath laid down the smack again.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Samurontai 07/24/17 10:11:27 PM #34:	Transcendentia posted... how long until samurontai and mr_lightbulb accuse conservatives of being anti semites That... doesn't even make any sense Like what Conservatives are borderline zionists lmao --- http://i.imgur.com/Scl5rwX.gif http://i.imgur.com/Fjgt7Qq.gif http://i.imgur.com/NidhAni.gif http://i.imgur.com/IGIbQPk.gif <cite>Samurontai posted [p:883537461] in To clarify... [t:75601290]...</cite> <quote><cite>Transcendentia posted...</cite> <quote>how long until samurontai and mr_lightbulb accuse conservatives of being anti semites</quote> That... doesn't even make any sense Like what Conservatives are borderline zionists lmao</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Transcendentia 07/24/17 10:11:58 PM #35:	Samurontai posted... Transcendentia posted... how long until samurontai and mr_lightbulb accuse conservatives of being anti semites That... doesn't even make any sense Like what Conservatives are borderline zionists lmao wait a second so are conservatives nazis? or zionists? wat da fuck <cite>Transcendentia posted [p:883537487] in To clarify... [t:75601290]...</cite> <quote><cite>Samurontai posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Transcendentia posted...</cite> <quote>how long until samurontai and mr_lightbulb accuse conservatives of being anti semites</quote> That... doesn't even make any sense Like what Conservatives are borderline zionists lmao</quote> wait a second so are conservatives nazis? or zionists? wat da fuck</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Samurontai 07/24/17 10:12:29 PM #36:	Transcendentia posted... Samurontai posted... Transcendentia posted... how long until samurontai and mr_lightbulb accuse conservatives of being anti semites That... doesn't even make any sense Like what Conservatives are borderline zionists lmao wait a second so are conservatives nazis? or zionists? wat da fuck Idk, I've never called them either of those things? Tf are you on? --- http://i.imgur.com/Scl5rwX.gif http://i.imgur.com/Fjgt7Qq.gif http://i.imgur.com/NidhAni.gif http://i.imgur.com/IGIbQPk.gif <cite>Samurontai posted [p:883537511] in To clarify... [t:75601290]...</cite> <quote><cite>Transcendentia posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Samurontai posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Transcendentia posted...</cite> <quote>how long until samurontai and mr_lightbulb accuse conservatives of being anti semites</quote> That... doesn't even make any sense Like what Conservatives are borderline zionists lmao</quote> wait a second so are conservatives nazis? or zionists? wat da fuck</quote> Idk, I've never called them either of those things? Tf are you on?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Transcendentia 07/24/17 10:13:23 PM #37:	> "Idk, I've never called them either of those things?" > "Conservatives are borderline zionists lmao" <cite>Transcendentia posted [p:883537562] in To clarify... [t:75601290]...</cite> <quote>> "Idk, I've never called them either of those things?" > "Conservatives are borderline zionists lmao"</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AlternativeFAQS 07/24/17 10:18:00 PM #38:	Transcendentia posted... Samurontai posted... Transcendentia posted... how long until samurontai and mr_lightbulb accuse conservatives of being anti semites That... doesn't even make any sense Like what Conservatives are borderline zionists lmao wait a second so are conservatives nazis? or zionists? wat da fuck depends on the generation <cite>AlternativeFAQS posted [p:883537827] in To clarify... [t:75601290]...</cite> <quote><cite>Transcendentia posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Samurontai posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Transcendentia posted...</cite> <quote>how long until samurontai and mr_lightbulb accuse conservatives of being anti semites</quote> That... doesn't even make any sense Like what Conservatives are borderline zionists lmao</quote> wait a second so are conservatives nazis? or zionists? wat da fuck</quote> depends on the generation</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SSJ-JohnLennon 07/24/17 10:18:47 PM #39:	SomeLikeItHoth posted... Samurontai posted... Has @Transcendentia even made a post itt with any substance or is he just s shameless shit poster like that johnlennon dude? It's a pretty bad gimmick tbh Would you prefer he enter meltdown mode and start writing a few essays ala yourself and TC? <cite>SSJ-JohnLennon posted [p:883537875] in To clarify... [t:75601290]...</cite> <quote><cite>SomeLikeItHoth posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Samurontai posted...</cite> <quote>Has @Transcendentia even made a post itt with any substance or is he just s shameless shit poster like that johnlennon dude? It's a pretty bad gimmick tbh</quote> Would you prefer he enter meltdown mode and start writing a few essays ala yourself and TC?</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Transcendentia 07/24/17 10:20:49 PM #40:	AlternativeFAQS posted... Transcendentia posted... Samurontai posted... Transcendentia posted... how long until samurontai and mr_lightbulb accuse conservatives of being anti semites That... doesn't even make any sense Like what Conservatives are borderline zionists lmao wait a second so are conservatives nazis? or zionists? wat da fuck depends on the generation lmao <cite>Transcendentia posted [p:883537989] in To clarify... [t:75601290]...</cite> <quote><cite>AlternativeFAQS posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Transcendentia posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Samurontai posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Transcendentia posted...</cite> <quote>how long until samurontai and mr_lightbulb accuse conservatives of being anti semites</quote> That... doesn't even make any sense Like what Conservatives are borderline zionists lmao</quote> wait a second so are conservatives nazis? or zionists? wat da fuck</quote> depends on the generation</quote> lmao</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Samurontai 07/24/17 10:20:58 PM #41:	Transcendentia posted... > "Idk, I've never called them either of those things?" > "Conservatives are borderline zionists lmao" So... you don't know what borderline means? Are you a Trump supporter by chance? --- http://i.imgur.com/Scl5rwX.gif http://i.imgur.com/Fjgt7Qq.gif http://i.imgur.com/NidhAni.gif http://i.imgur.com/IGIbQPk.gif <cite>Samurontai posted [p:883537997] in To clarify... [t:75601290]...</cite> <quote><cite>Transcendentia posted...</cite> <quote>> "Idk, I've never called them either of those things?" > "Conservatives are borderline zionists lmao"</quote> So... you don't know what borderline means? Are you a Trump supporter by chance?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dragonblade01 07/24/17 10:21:36 PM #42:	To my understanding, at least in the United States, conservatism itself doesn't hold Zionism as a part of its ideological framework. Rather, it stems from conservatism's correlation with the Christian religion, among which Zionism may play a role. --- PSN: kazukifafner <cite>Dragonblade01 posted [p:883538034] in To clarify... [t:75601290]...</cite> <quote>To my understanding, at least in the United States, conservatism itself doesn't hold Zionism as a part of its ideological framework. Rather, it stems from conservatism's correlation with the Christian religion, among which Zionism may play a role.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Transcendentia 07/24/17 10:22:20 PM #43:	Dragonblade01 posted... To my understanding, at least in the United States, conservatism itself doesn't hold Zionism as a part of its ideological framework. Rather, it stems from conservatism's correlation with the Christian religion, among which Zionism may play a role. yeah, but CE's leftists tend to call those conservatives Nazis lmao. like how the fuck does that even make sense <cite>Transcendentia posted [p:883538076] in To clarify... [t:75601290]...</cite> <quote><cite>Dragonblade01 posted...</cite> <quote>To my understanding, at least in the United States, conservatism itself doesn't hold Zionism as a part of its ideological framework. Rather, it stems from conservatism's correlation with the Christian religion, among which Zionism may play a role.</quote> yeah, but CE's leftists tend to call those conservatives Nazis lmao. like how the fuck does that even make sense</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Samurontai 07/24/17 10:22:57 PM #44:	Dragonblade01 posted... To my understanding, at least in the United States, conservatism itself doesn't hold Zionism as a part of its ideological framework. Rather, it stems from conservatism's correlation with the Christian religion, among which Zionism may play a role. Im not saying they're Zionist, I'm saying they're borderline zionists. Is it even possible for a non-Jew to be a Zionist? --- http://i.imgur.com/Scl5rwX.gif http://i.imgur.com/Fjgt7Qq.gif http://i.imgur.com/NidhAni.gif http://i.imgur.com/IGIbQPk.gif <cite>Samurontai posted [p:883538110] in To clarify... [t:75601290]...</cite> <quote><cite>Dragonblade01 posted...</cite> <quote>To my understanding, at least in the United States, conservatism itself doesn't hold Zionism as a part of its ideological framework. Rather, it stems from conservatism's correlation with the Christian religion, among which Zionism may play a role.</quote> Im not saying they're Zionist, I'm saying they're borderline zionists. Is it even possible for a non-Jew to be a Zionist?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AlternativeFAQS 07/24/17 10:23:44 PM #45:	Samurontai posted... Dragonblade01 posted... To my understanding, at least in the United States, conservatism itself doesn't hold Zionism as a part of its ideological framework. Rather, it stems from conservatism's correlation with the Christian religion, among which Zionism may play a role. Im not saying they're Zionist, I'm saying they're borderline zionists. Is it even possible for a non-Jew to be a Zionist? seems to be. plenty of them in congress <cite>AlternativeFAQS posted [p:883538153] in To clarify... [t:75601290]...</cite> <quote><cite>Samurontai posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Dragonblade01 posted...</cite> <quote>To my understanding, at least in the United States, conservatism itself doesn't hold Zionism as a part of its ideological framework. Rather, it stems from conservatism's correlation with the Christian religion, among which Zionism may play a role.</quote> Im not saying they're Zionist, I'm saying they're borderline zionists. Is it even possible for a non-Jew to be a Zionist?</quote> seems to be. plenty of them in congress</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
-GalacticBass- 07/24/17 10:23:47 PM #46:	Transcendentia posted... Dragonblade01 posted... To my understanding, at least in the United States, conservatism itself doesn't hold Zionism as a part of its ideological framework. Rather, it stems from conservatism's correlation with the Christian religion, among which Zionism may play a role. yeah, but CE's leftists tend to call those conservatives Nazis lmao. like how the fuck does that even make sense Maybe they think we're Nazi'ing things correctly? --- Perfect_Edge <cite>-GalacticBass- posted [p:883538155] in To clarify... [t:75601290]...</cite> <quote><cite>Transcendentia posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Dragonblade01 posted...</cite> <quote>To my understanding, at least in the United States, conservatism itself doesn't hold Zionism as a part of its ideological framework. Rather, it stems from conservatism's correlation with the Christian religion, among which Zionism may play a role.</quote> yeah, but CE's leftists tend to call those conservatives Nazis lmao. like how the fuck does that even make sense</quote> Maybe they think we're Nazi'ing things correctly?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Samurontai 07/24/17 10:23:50 PM #47:	@Transcendentia posted... Dragonblade01 posted... To my understanding, at least in the United States, conservatism itself doesn't hold Zionism as a part of its ideological framework. Rather, it stems from conservatism's correlation with the Christian religion, among which Zionism may play a role. yeah, but CE's leftists tend to call those conservatives Nazis lmao. like how the fuck does that even make sense Have a quote of someone saying this? I've never seen a conservative on this board be called a Nazi due to that specific thing tbh --- http://i.imgur.com/Scl5rwX.gif http://i.imgur.com/Fjgt7Qq.gif http://i.imgur.com/NidhAni.gif http://i.imgur.com/IGIbQPk.gif <cite>Samurontai posted [p:883538160] in To clarify... [t:75601290]...</cite> <quote><cite>@Transcendentia posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Dragonblade01 posted...</cite> <quote>To my understanding, at least in the United States, conservatism itself doesn't hold Zionism as a part of its ideological framework. Rather, it stems from conservatism's correlation with the Christian religion, among which Zionism may play a role.</quote> yeah, but CE's leftists tend to call those conservatives Nazis lmao. like how the fuck does that even make sense</quote> Have a quote of someone saying this? I've never seen a conservative on this board be called a Nazi due to that specific thing tbh</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Transcendentia 07/24/17 10:24:50 PM #48:	Samurontai posted... @Transcendentia posted... Dragonblade01 posted... To my understanding, at least in the United States, conservatism itself doesn't hold Zionism as a part of its ideological framework. Rather, it stems from conservatism's correlation with the Christian religion, among which Zionism may play a role. yeah, but CE's leftists tend to call those conservatives Nazis lmao. like how the fuck does that even make sense Have a quote of someone saying this? I've never seen a conservative on this board be called a Nazi due to that specific thing tbh did you look at the topic that Antifar's first post is referring to <cite>Transcendentia posted [p:883538223] in To clarify... [t:75601290]...</cite> <quote><cite>Samurontai posted...</cite> <quote><cite>@Transcendentia posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Dragonblade01 posted...</cite> <quote>To my understanding, at least in the United States, conservatism itself doesn't hold Zionism as a part of its ideological framework. Rather, it stems from conservatism's correlation with the Christian religion, among which Zionism may play a role.</quote> yeah, but CE's leftists tend to call those conservatives Nazis lmao. like how the fuck does that even make sense</quote> Have a quote of someone saying this? I've never seen a conservative on this board be called a Nazi due to that specific thing tbh</quote> did you look at the topic that Antifar's first post is referring to</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Transcendentia 07/24/17 10:25:09 PM #49:	-GalacticBass- posted... Transcendentia posted... Dragonblade01 posted... To my understanding, at least in the United States, conservatism itself doesn't hold Zionism as a part of its ideological framework. Rather, it stems from conservatism's correlation with the Christian religion, among which Zionism may play a role. yeah, but CE's leftists tend to call those conservatives Nazis lmao. like how the fuck does that even make sense Maybe they think we're Nazi'ing things correctly? i would Nazi that coming tbqh <cite>Transcendentia posted [p:883538249] in To clarify... [t:75601290]...</cite> <quote><cite>-GalacticBass- posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Transcendentia posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Dragonblade01 posted...</cite> <quote>To my understanding, at least in the United States, conservatism itself doesn't hold Zionism as a part of its ideological framework. Rather, it stems from conservatism's correlation with the Christian religion, among which Zionism may play a role.</quote> yeah, but CE's leftists tend to call those conservatives Nazis lmao. like how the fuck does that even make sense</quote> Maybe they think we're Nazi'ing things correctly?</quote> i would Nazi that coming tbqh</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AlternativeFAQS 07/24/17 10:25:37 PM #50:	who is transcendentia btw? <cite>AlternativeFAQS posted [p:883538285] in To clarify... [t:75601290]...</cite> <quote>who is transcendentia btw?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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