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DiesMortis 07/23/17 3:58:24 PM #51:	Kineth posted... Alucard188 posted... DiesMortis posted... A firearm, no. But shut them down? Sure. Fascism and white nationalism is a disease. Sounds like she was trying to incite a riot and violence against people she didn't agree with in an effort to shut them down. Sounds like fascism to me. This is why the mod system has no clue what white nationalism (aka racism) looks like, if your interpretation of the political climate is in any way typical for the mods. StormFAQs brah. --- Maledicte \| http://www.last.fm/user/chaosinferno "So sleep, sister sleep, and dream, me broken at your feet." <cite>DiesMortis posted [p:883455664] in SJW Berkle... [t:75596757]...</cite> <quote><cite>Kineth posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Alucard188 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>DiesMortis posted...</cite> <quote>A firearm, no. But shut them down? Sure. Fascism and white nationalism is a disease.</quote> Sounds like she was trying to incite a riot and violence against people she didn't agree with in an effort to shut them down. Sounds like fascism to me.</quote> This is why the mod system has no clue what white nationalism (aka racism) looks like, if your interpretation of the political climate is in any way typical for the mods.</quote> StormFAQs brah.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mal_Fet 07/23/17 3:58:55 PM #52:	DiesMortis posted... Alucard188 posted... DiesMortis posted... A firearm, no. But shut them down? Sure. Fascism and white nationalism is a disease. Sounds like she was trying to incite a riot and violence against people she didn't agree with in an effort to shut them down. Sounds like fascism to me. I don't see how shutting down people with a vested interest in eradicating your race fascist, but that might just be me. Half the country are fascists according to this woman. --- Freedom is the right to tell people what they do not want to hear. -George Orwell <cite>Mal_Fet posted [p:883455683] in SJW Berkle... [t:75596757]...</cite> <quote><cite>DiesMortis posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Alucard188 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>DiesMortis posted...</cite> <quote>A firearm, no. But shut them down? Sure. Fascism and white nationalism is a disease.</quote> Sounds like she was trying to incite a riot and violence against people she didn't agree with in an effort to shut them down. Sounds like fascism to me.</quote> I don't see how shutting down people with a vested interest in eradicating your race fascist, but that might just be me.</quote> Half the country are fascists according to this woman.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TomNook20 07/23/17 3:59:07 PM #53:	DiesMortis posted... Private citizens counter-protesting white nationalists isn't a violation of the first amendment. The first amendment applies to the government. Agreed. That has nothing to do with your post though. You said it's sad that certain groups are allowed to assemble and people can't punch them in the face for doing so. The government is not allowed to pick a choose which groups they grant freedoms to, and no one, private citizen or not is allowed to go around punching people in the face. DiesMortis posted... I don't see a problem with violence when rooting out cancers in a community. Ok, Adolf. --- http://fc02.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2011/098/7/4/tom_nook_by_themerce-d3dhi0q.png http://www.gameswagonline.com/uploads/9/0/8/9/9089979/1372277527.jpg <cite>TomNook20 posted [p:883455700] in SJW Berkle... [t:75596757]...</cite> <quote><cite>DiesMortis posted...</cite> <quote> Private citizens counter-protesting white nationalists isn't a violation of the first amendment. The first amendment applies to the government.</quote> Agreed. That has nothing to do with your post though. You said it's sad that certain groups are allowed to assemble and people can't punch them in the face for doing so. The government is not allowed to pick a choose which groups they grant freedoms to, and no one, private citizen or not is allowed to go around punching people in the face. <cite>DiesMortis posted...</cite> <quote> I don't see a problem with violence when rooting out cancers in a community.</quote> Ok, Adolf.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Transcendentia 07/23/17 4:00:12 PM #54:	gunplagirl posted... And calling legit white nationalists Nazis is fair game You can call white nationalists and black nationalists and whatever nationalists whatever you want, but the problem is when you make haste with labeling someone a Nazi. That's not a small deal. Calling someone a Nazi is a pretty big deal, man. Better have some strong evidence if you're going to do that and if you're going to justify violence against protesters. It's no different than people calling BLM protesters terrorists and trying to justify violence against them. <cite>Transcendentia posted [p:883455757] in SJW Berkle... [t:75596757]...</cite> <quote><cite>gunplagirl posted...</cite> <quote>And calling legit white nationalists Nazis is fair game </quote> You can call white nationalists and black nationalists and whatever nationalists whatever you want, but the problem is when you make haste with labeling someone a Nazi. That's not a small deal. Calling someone a Nazi is a pretty big deal, man. Better have some strong evidence if you're going to do that and if you're going to justify violence against protesters. It's no different than people calling BLM protesters terrorists and trying to justify violence against them.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
gunplagirl 07/23/17 4:00:15 PM #55:	TomNook20 posted... gunplagirl posted... Just because it's the law doesn't mean it's just There's only one thing to do when you've got a Nazi Respect their rights and freedoms, the way you would to any other human. That's what makes our society better than theirs was. Transcendentia posted... DiesMortis posted... I don't see a problem with violence when rooting out cancers in a community. that's an awful view to hold, because history shows that this leads to bad things. it's literally how Nazis came into existence in the first place, buddy. it's literally Nazi rhetoric, yet you claim that you're against Nazis. Nazis: death or enslavement to all minorities and lgbt people Me: fuck that, we have to stop them before they do that stuff AGAIN Society: those are both just as bad --- Pokemon Moon FC: 1994-2190-5020 IGN: Vanessa <cite>gunplagirl posted [p:883455761] in SJW Berkle... [t:75596757]...</cite> <quote><cite>TomNook20 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>gunplagirl posted...</cite> <quote> Just because it's the law doesn't mean it's just There's only one thing to do when you've got a Nazi</quote> Respect their rights and freedoms, the way you would to any other human. That's what makes our society better than theirs was.</quote> <cite>Transcendentia posted...</cite> <quote><cite>DiesMortis posted...</cite> <quote>I don't see a problem with violence when rooting out cancers in a community. </quote> that's an awful view to hold, because history shows that this leads to bad things. it's literally how Nazis came into existence in the first place, buddy. it's literally Nazi rhetoric, yet you claim that you're against Nazis.</quote> Nazis: death or enslavement to all minorities and lgbt people Me: fuck that, we have to stop them before they do that stuff AGAIN Society: those are both just as bad</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ScazarMeltex 07/23/17 4:00:37 PM #56:	Alucard188 posted... DiesMortis posted... A firearm, no. But shut them down? Sure. Fascism and white nationalism is a disease. Sounds like she was trying to incite a riot and violence against people she didn't agree with in an effort to shut them down. Sounds like fascism to me. Yes because trying to stop a group of people who's stated goal is the silencing and oppression of entire groups makes you just as bad as the group who wants to oppress people. --- "If you wish to converse with me define your terms" Voltaire <cite>ScazarMeltex posted [p:883455786] in SJW Berkle... [t:75596757]...</cite> <quote><cite>Alucard188 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>DiesMortis posted...</cite> <quote>A firearm, no. But shut them down? Sure. Fascism and white nationalism is a disease.</quote> Sounds like she was trying to incite a riot and violence against people she didn't agree with in an effort to shut them down. Sounds like fascism to me.</quote> Yes because trying to stop a group of people who's stated goal is the silencing and oppression of entire groups makes you just as bad as the group who wants to oppress people.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
emblem boy 07/23/17 4:01:04 PM #57:	I don't even fully think violence is never the answer. Violence has worked many times in the past. I'm just against violence for many issues these days because it just won't work. It's not practical these days anymore. There are better ways to move people into your side --- Posted with GameRaven 3.2.1 <cite>emblem boy posted [p:883455808] in SJW Berkle... [t:75596757]...</cite> <quote>I don't even fully think violence is never the answer. Violence has worked many times in the past. I'm just against violence for many issues these days because it just won't work. It's not practical these days anymore. There are better ways to move people into your side</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kineth 07/23/17 4:01:05 PM #58:	Oh lordy, look at these Nazi and white nationalist apologists. --- If you're not looking for any honest discussion, agreement, meeting halfway or middle ground, don't bother arguing with me. Selfish narcissists need not apply. <cite>Kineth posted [p:883455813] in SJW Berkle... [t:75596757]...</cite> <quote>Oh lordy, look at these Nazi and white nationalist apologists.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TomNook20 07/23/17 4:02:16 PM #59:	gunplagirl posted... Nazis: death or enslavement to all minorities and lgbt people Me: fuck that, we have to stop them before they do that stuff AGAIN Society: those are both just as bad Nazis: I don't see a problem with violence when rooting out cancers in a community. DiesMortis posted... I don't see a problem with violence when rooting out cancers in a community. --- http://fc02.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2011/098/7/4/tom_nook_by_themerce-d3dhi0q.png http://www.gameswagonline.com/uploads/9/0/8/9/9089979/1372277527.jpg <cite>TomNook20 posted [p:883455870] in SJW Berkle... [t:75596757]...</cite> <quote><cite>gunplagirl posted...</cite> <quote> Nazis: death or enslavement to all minorities and lgbt people Me: fuck that, we have to stop them before they do that stuff AGAIN Society: those are both just as bad</quote> Nazis: I don't see a problem with violence when rooting out cancers in a community. <cite>DiesMortis posted...</cite> <quote> I don't see a problem with violence when rooting out cancers in a community.</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
gunplagirl 07/23/17 4:02:41 PM #60:	Transcendentia posted... gunplagirl posted... And calling legit white nationalists Nazis is fair game You can call white nationalists and black nationalists and whatever nationalists whatever you want, but the problem is when you make haste with labeling someone a Nazi. That's not a small deal. Calling someone a Nazi is a pretty big deal, man. Better have some strong evidence if you're going to do that and if you're going to justify violence against protesters. It's no different than people calling BLM protesters terrorists and trying to justify violence against them. Sounds like some Nazi apologist garbage but okay --- Pokemon Moon FC: 1994-2190-5020 IGN: Vanessa <cite>gunplagirl posted [p:883455900] in SJW Berkle... [t:75596757]...</cite> <quote><cite>Transcendentia posted...</cite> <quote><cite>gunplagirl posted...</cite> <quote>And calling legit white nationalists Nazis is fair game </quote> You can call white nationalists and black nationalists and whatever nationalists whatever you want, but the problem is when you make haste with labeling someone a Nazi. That's not a small deal. Calling someone a Nazi is a pretty big deal, man. Better have some strong evidence if you're going to do that and if you're going to justify violence against protesters. It's no different than people calling BLM protesters terrorists and trying to justify violence against them.</quote> Sounds like some Nazi apologist garbage but okay</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DiesMortis 07/23/17 4:03:07 PM #61:	TomNook20 posted... gunplagirl posted... Nazis: death or enslavement to all minorities and lgbt people Me: fuck that, we have to stop them before they do that stuff AGAIN Society: those are both just as bad Nazis: I don't see a problem with violence when rooting out cancers in a community. DiesMortis posted... I don't see a problem with violence when rooting out cancers in a community. "Lol context" --- Maledicte \| http://www.last.fm/user/chaosinferno "So sleep, sister sleep, and dream, me broken at your feet." <cite>DiesMortis posted [p:883455918] in SJW Berkle... [t:75596757]...</cite> <quote><cite>TomNook20 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>gunplagirl posted...</cite> <quote> Nazis: death or enslavement to all minorities and lgbt people Me: fuck that, we have to stop them before they do that stuff AGAIN Society: those are both just as bad</quote> Nazis: I don't see a problem with violence when rooting out cancers in a community. <cite>DiesMortis posted...</cite> <quote> I don't see a problem with violence when rooting out cancers in a community.</quote></quote> "Lol context"</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Transcendentia 07/23/17 4:03:35 PM #62:	It's really frustrating and unfortunate that people respond to attempts at nuance with accusations of being Nazi and white or black nationalist apologists. That's just fucking dishonest and immature. It's no different than when people label all of BLM as black nationalists or terrorists. I thought maybe we could all come to an agreement as to why hasty labels and violence are not good strategies, but I guess not. <cite>Transcendentia posted [p:883455955] in SJW Berkle... [t:75596757]...</cite> <quote>It's really frustrating and unfortunate that people respond to attempts at nuance with accusations of being Nazi and white or black nationalist apologists. That's just fucking dishonest and immature. It's no different than when people label all of BLM as black nationalists or terrorists. I thought maybe we could all come to an agreement as to why hasty labels and violence are not good strategies, but I guess not.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Xeno14 07/23/17 4:03:39 PM #63:	Kineth posted... Oh lordy, look at these Nazi and white nationalist apologists. says the nation of islam apologist --- http://i.imgur.com/brMr5Ig.jpg http://i.imgur.com/MoXxySu.gif https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CyGM7qMXgAAwhbT.jpg:large <cite>Xeno14 posted [p:883455957] in SJW Berkle... [t:75596757]...</cite> <quote><cite>Kineth posted...</cite> <quote>Oh lordy, look at these Nazi and white nationalist apologists.</quote> says the nation of islam apologist</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Transcendentia 07/23/17 4:04:56 PM #64:	gunplagirl posted... Transcendentia posted... gunplagirl posted... And calling legit white nationalists Nazis is fair game You can call white nationalists and black nationalists and whatever nationalists whatever you want, but the problem is when you make haste with labeling someone a Nazi. That's not a small deal. Calling someone a Nazi is a pretty big deal, man. Better have some strong evidence if you're going to do that and if you're going to justify violence against protesters. It's no different than people calling BLM protesters terrorists and trying to justify violence against them. Sounds like some Nazi apologist garbage but okay You're literally accusing me of defending concentration camps, the rhetoric that claimed millions and millions of Jews and others, fascist government rule, and Aryan supremacy. Just because I said we shouldn't abuse labels and be hasty with labeling would-be recipients of violence. <cite>Transcendentia posted [p:883456008] in SJW Berkle... [t:75596757]...</cite> <quote><cite>gunplagirl posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Transcendentia posted...</cite> <quote><cite>gunplagirl posted...</cite> <quote>And calling legit white nationalists Nazis is fair game </quote> You can call white nationalists and black nationalists and whatever nationalists whatever you want, but the problem is when you make haste with labeling someone a Nazi. That's not a small deal. Calling someone a Nazi is a pretty big deal, man. Better have some strong evidence if you're going to do that and if you're going to justify violence against protesters. It's no different than people calling BLM protesters terrorists and trying to justify violence against them.</quote> Sounds like some Nazi apologist garbage but okay</quote> You're literally accusing me of defending concentration camps, the rhetoric that claimed millions and millions of Jews and others, fascist government rule, and Aryan supremacy. Just because I said we shouldn't abuse labels and be hasty with labeling would-be recipients of violence.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TomNook20 07/23/17 4:05:37 PM #65:	Transcendentia posted... I thought maybe we could all come to an agreement as to why hasty labels and violence are not good strategies, but I guess not. You've got people in this topic literally spewing nazi rhetoric while claiming to be "anti fascist". Just laugh at the irony and add them to your ignore list. --- http://fc02.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2011/098/7/4/tom_nook_by_themerce-d3dhi0q.png http://www.gameswagonline.com/uploads/9/0/8/9/9089979/1372277527.jpg <cite>TomNook20 posted [p:883456039] in SJW Berkle... [t:75596757]...</cite> <quote><cite>Transcendentia posted...</cite> <quote> I thought maybe we could all come to an agreement as to why hasty labels and violence are not good strategies, but I guess not.</quote> You've got people in this topic literally spewing nazi rhetoric while claiming to be "anti fascist". Just laugh at the irony and add them to your ignore list.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mal_Fet 07/23/17 4:06:21 PM #66:	ScazarMeltex posted... Yes because trying to stop a group of people who's stated goal is the silencing and oppression of entire groups makes you just as bad as the group who wants to oppress people. The person who uses violence against people who aren't is most certainly worse. Kineth posted... Oh lordy, look at these Nazi and white nationalist apologists. Hope you go to jail one day for assault so you can actually live up to your aspirations. --- Freedom is the right to tell people what they do not want to hear. -George Orwell <cite>Mal_Fet posted [p:883456073] in SJW Berkle... [t:75596757]...</cite> <quote><cite>ScazarMeltex posted...</cite> <quote> Yes because trying to stop a group of people who's stated goal is the silencing and oppression of entire groups makes you just as bad as the group who wants to oppress people.</quote> The person who uses violence against people who aren't is most certainly worse. <cite>Kineth posted...</cite> <quote>Oh lordy, look at these Nazi and white nationalist apologists.</quote> Hope you go to jail one day for assault so you can actually live up to your aspirations.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ScazarMeltex 07/23/17 4:06:48 PM #67:	TomNook20 posted... gunplagirl posted... Nazis: death or enslavement to all minorities and lgbt people Me: fuck that, we have to stop them before they do that stuff AGAIN Society: those are both just as bad Nazis: I don't see a problem with violence when rooting out cancers in a community. DiesMortis posted... I don't see a problem with violence when rooting out cancers in a community. So then at what point is it ok to stop them? Once they become legitimately elected and begin enacting their agenda? Then it is far too late. Anti-fascist ideology doesn't exist in a fucking vacuum. It only exists because fascists exist. If the alt-right wasn't trying to do what they do, then there would be nothing to push back against. --- "If you wish to converse with me define your terms" Voltaire <cite>ScazarMeltex posted [p:883456090] in SJW Berkle... [t:75596757]...</cite> <quote><cite>TomNook20 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>gunplagirl posted...</cite> <quote> Nazis: death or enslavement to all minorities and lgbt people Me: fuck that, we have to stop them before they do that stuff AGAIN Society: those are both just as bad</quote> Nazis: I don't see a problem with violence when rooting out cancers in a community. <cite>DiesMortis posted...</cite> <quote> I don't see a problem with violence when rooting out cancers in a community.</quote></quote> So then at what point is it ok to stop them? Once they become legitimately elected and begin enacting their agenda? Then it is far too late. Anti-fascist ideology doesn't exist in a fucking vacuum. It only exists because fascists exist. If the alt-right wasn't trying to do what they do, then there would be nothing to push back against.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DiesMortis 07/23/17 4:07:18 PM #68:	By that logic the National Socialist party weren't Nazis until -after- concentration camps were erected. --- Maledicte \| http://www.last.fm/user/chaosinferno "So sleep, sister sleep, and dream, me broken at your feet." <cite>DiesMortis posted [p:883456120] in SJW Berkle... [t:75596757]...</cite> <quote>By that logic the National Socialist party weren't Nazis until -after- concentration camps were erected.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kineth 07/23/17 4:10:38 PM #69:	Mal_Fet posted... Please pay attention to me Kineth. I didn't like it when you used my words to back up your point earlier in the topic, so I'm gonna double down on being a Nazi apologist. I sure as shit can't find it in my power to criticize them, but I will stop at nothing to make up whatever bullshit I can to denigrate you. I know. Find something better to do with your time, like becoming an accepted member of society. --- If you're not looking for any honest discussion, agreement, meeting halfway or middle ground, don't bother arguing with me. Selfish narcissists need not apply. <cite>Kineth posted [p:883456273] in SJW Berkle... [t:75596757]...</cite> <quote><cite>Mal_Fet posted...</cite> <quote>Please pay attention to me Kineth. I didn't like it when you used my words to back up your point earlier in the topic, so I'm gonna double down on being a Nazi apologist. I sure as shit can't find it in my power to criticize them, but I will stop at nothing to make up whatever bullshit I can to denigrate you.</quote> I know. Find something better to do with your time, like becoming an accepted member of society.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Alucard188 07/23/17 4:11:34 PM #70:	ScazarMeltex posted... Trying to stop them from having a platform to speak doesn't make you as bad the person who wants genocide, sorry. So inciting violence against them, galvanizing their support group, and driving them underground is the answer? I'd rather have their thoughts out in the open so people can see how ridiculous they are. Kineth posted... Alucard188 posted... DiesMortis posted... A firearm, no. But shut them down? Sure. Fascism and white nationalism is a disease. Sounds like she was trying to incite a riot and violence against people she didn't agree with in an effort to shut them down. Sounds like fascism to me. This is why the mod system has no clue what white nationalism (aka racism) looks like, if your interpretation of the political climate is in any way typical for the mods. My interpretation is that people have a constitutional right of free speech and the right to peacefully assemble. Has nothing to do with what either group believes in. Also, for the record (seeing as you guys have such a hard time remembering who is on what side), White Nationalism is a disease that has been festering in the US for hundreds of years. Your constitution protects these people so long as they don't break any laws in the pursuit of it. Sorry, but that's just how it is. --- Face it Cloud is a gaming icon and has appered in lots of games while mario has only appeared in 2 games sunshine and 64~xSlashbomBx <cite>Alucard188 posted [p:883456306] in SJW Berkle... [t:75596757]...</cite> <quote><cite>ScazarMeltex posted...</cite> <quote>Trying to stop them from having a platform to speak doesn't make you as bad the person who wants genocide, sorry.</quote> So inciting violence against them, galvanizing their support group, and driving them underground is the answer? I'd rather have their thoughts out in the open so people can see how ridiculous they are. <cite>Kineth posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Alucard188 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>DiesMortis posted...</cite> <quote>A firearm, no. But shut them down? Sure. Fascism and white nationalism is a disease.</quote> Sounds like she was trying to incite a riot and violence against people she didn't agree with in an effort to shut them down. Sounds like fascism to me.</quote> This is why the mod system has no clue what white nationalism (aka racism) looks like, if your interpretation of the political climate is in any way typical for the mods.</quote> My interpretation is that people have a constitutional right of free speech and the right to peacefully assemble. Has nothing to do with what either group believes in. Also, for the record (seeing as you guys have such a hard time remembering who is on what side), White Nationalism is a disease that has been festering in the US for hundreds of years. Your constitution protects these people so long as they don't break any laws in the pursuit of it. Sorry, but that's just how it is.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mal_Fet 07/23/17 4:12:14 PM #71:	ScazarMeltex posted... So then at what point is it ok to stop them? Once they become legitimately elected and begin enacting their agenda? Then it is far too late. First of all, punching them isn't going to stop them. No one ever said "I once had this opinion, but then some shrill SJW hit me because of it, so I changed my ways" And if it's ok to punch Nazis for their ideology rather than their actions, what can we do with Communists? They killed way more people than Nazis did, right? So can we assault Marxists on the street to prevent them from getting elected? How far should we be allowed to go in order to stop a Communist from faining power? Can we only injure them, or my we cripple or kill them? These are questions you MUST answer if you support assaulting nonviolent people, regardless how bad their ideology is. --- Freedom is the right to tell people what they do not want to hear. -George Orwell <cite>Mal_Fet posted [p:883456336] in SJW Berkle... [t:75596757]...</cite> <quote><cite>ScazarMeltex posted...</cite> <quote>So then at what point is it ok to stop them? Once they become legitimately elected and begin enacting their agenda? Then it is far too late.</quote> First of all, punching them isn't going to stop them. No one ever said "I once had this opinion, but then some shrill SJW hit me because of it, so I changed my ways" And if it's ok to punch Nazis for their ideology rather than their actions, what can we do with Communists? They killed way more people than Nazis did, right? So can we assault Marxists on the street to prevent them from getting elected? How far should we be allowed to go in order to stop a Communist from faining power? Can we only injure them, or my we cripple or kill them? These are questions you MUST answer if you support assaulting nonviolent people, regardless how bad their ideology is.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
gunplagirl 07/23/17 4:13:05 PM #72:	Transcendentia posted... gunplagirl posted... Sounds like some Nazi apologist garbage but okay You're literally accusing me of defending concentration camps, the rhetoric that claimed millions and millions of Jews and others, fascist government rule, and Aryan supremacy. Just because I said we shouldn't abuse labels and be hasty with labeling would-be recipients of violence. You used literally while shoving words in my mouth You're saying "uguu don't call people who act like and want the same endgame as Nazis, Nazis." --- Pokemon Moon FC: 1994-2190-5020 IGN: Vanessa <cite>gunplagirl posted [p:883456378] in SJW Berkle... [t:75596757]...</cite> <quote><cite>Transcendentia posted...</cite> <quote><cite>gunplagirl posted...</cite> <quote>Sounds like some Nazi apologist garbage but okay</quote> You're literally accusing me of defending concentration camps, the rhetoric that claimed millions and millions of Jews and others, fascist government rule, and Aryan supremacy. Just because I said we shouldn't abuse labels and be hasty with labeling would-be recipients of violence.</quote> You used literally while shoving words in my mouth You're saying "uguu don't call people who act like and want the same endgame as Nazis, Nazis."</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Transcendentia 07/23/17 4:13:16 PM #73:	Alucard188 posted... So inciting violence against them, galvanizing their support group, and driving them underground is the answer? I'd rather have their thoughts out in the open so people can see how ridiculous they are. Exactly. <cite>Transcendentia posted [p:883456387] in SJW Berkle... [t:75596757]...</cite> <quote><cite>Alucard188 posted...</cite> <quote>So inciting violence against them, galvanizing their support group, and driving them underground is the answer? I'd rather have their thoughts out in the open so people can see how ridiculous they are. </quote> Exactly.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Transcendentia 07/23/17 4:13:53 PM #74:	gunplagirl posted... Transcendentia posted... gunplagirl posted... Sounds like some Nazi apologist garbage but okay You're literally accusing me of defending concentration camps, the rhetoric that claimed millions and millions of Jews and others, fascist government rule, and Aryan supremacy. Just because I said we shouldn't abuse labels and be hasty with labeling would-be recipients of violence. You used literally while shoving words in my mouth You're saying "uguu don't call people who act like and want the same endgame as Nazis, Nazis." You waived away what I said by labeling me a Nazi apologist, dude. That's pretty despicable. <cite>Transcendentia posted [p:883456418] in SJW Berkle... [t:75596757]...</cite> <quote><cite>gunplagirl posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Transcendentia posted...</cite> <quote><cite>gunplagirl posted...</cite> <quote>Sounds like some Nazi apologist garbage but okay</quote> You're literally accusing me of defending concentration camps, the rhetoric that claimed millions and millions of Jews and others, fascist government rule, and Aryan supremacy. Just because I said we shouldn't abuse labels and be hasty with labeling would-be recipients of violence.</quote> You used literally while shoving words in my mouth You're saying "uguu don't call people who act like and want the same endgame as Nazis, Nazis."</quote> You waived away what I said by labeling me a Nazi apologist, dude. That's pretty despicable.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kineth 07/23/17 4:15:16 PM #75:	Transcendentia posted... How about you start at the part where you acknowledge that you were making up shit about UC Berkeley when the article has nothing to do with them? --- If you're not looking for any honest discussion, agreement, meeting halfway or middle ground, don't bother arguing with me. Selfish narcissists need not apply. <cite>Kineth posted [p:883456499] in SJW Berkle... [t:75596757]...</cite> <quote><cite>Transcendentia posted...</cite> How about you start at the part where you acknowledge that you were making up shit about UC Berkeley when the article has nothing to do with them?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Transcendentia 07/23/17 4:16:47 PM #76:	Kineth posted... Transcendentia posted... How about you start at the part where you acknowledge that you were making up shit about UC Berkeley when the article has nothing to do with them? Add me to your ignore list, please. Would really like for you to stop polluting my topic. I already explained that I saw the video and then glossed over the article and missed that she's a teacher, not a professor. Stop being paranoid. <cite>Transcendentia posted [p:883456568] in SJW Berkle... [t:75596757]...</cite> <quote><cite>Kineth posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Transcendentia posted...</cite> How about you start at the part where you acknowledge that you were making up shit about UC Berkeley when the article has nothing to do with them?</quote> Add me to your ignore list, please. Would really like for you to stop polluting my topic. I already explained that I saw the video and then glossed over the article and missed that she's a teacher, not a professor. Stop being paranoid.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kineth 07/23/17 4:16:55 PM #77:	Alucard188 posted... That's all well and good and at least you acknowledge the shittiness that is white supremacy, but that doesn't instill any confidence that the mod staff can properly identify it at all. --- If you're not looking for any honest discussion, agreement, meeting halfway or middle ground, don't bother arguing with me. Selfish narcissists need not apply. <cite>Kineth posted [p:883456578] in SJW Berkle... [t:75596757]...</cite> <quote><cite>Alucard188 posted...</cite> That's all well and good and at least you acknowledge the shittiness that is white supremacy, but that doesn't instill any confidence that the mod staff can properly identify it at all.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Transcendentia 07/23/17 4:18:00 PM #78:	Kineth posted... Alucard188 posted... That's all well and good and at least you acknowledge the shittiness that is white supremacy, but that doesn't instill any confidence that the mod staff can properly identify it at all. How do you go about identifying it? The trend has been, at least in this topic, to be very loosey goosey with how those labels are applied. How do you identify it without constantly redefining it and expanding its scope to include anyone you don't like or who disagrees with you? Similarly, what are your opinions on black supremacy / black nationalism? Do you think it's a problem? Serious questions. <cite>Transcendentia posted [p:883456621] in SJW Berkle... [t:75596757]...</cite> <quote><cite>Kineth posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Alucard188 posted...</cite> That's all well and good and at least you acknowledge the shittiness that is white supremacy, but that doesn't instill any confidence that the mod staff can properly identify it at all.</quote> How do you go about identifying it? The trend has been, at least in this topic, to be very loosey goosey with how those labels are applied. How do you identify it without constantly redefining it and expanding its scope to include anyone you don't like or who disagrees with you? Similarly, what are your opinions on black supremacy / black nationalism? Do you think it's a problem? Serious questions.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kineth 07/23/17 4:18:31 PM #79:	Transcendentia posted... Kineth posted... Transcendentia posted... How about you start at the part where you acknowledge that you were making up shit about UC Berkeley when the article has nothing to do with them? Add me to your ignore list, please. Would really like for you to stop polluting my topic. I already explained that I saw the video and then glossed over the article and missed that she's a teacher, not a professor. Stop being paranoid. I'm sorry that you don't like hard questions, but no, you didn't answer that concern. And why would I ignore someone because they requested I did. You should just ignore me in that case. --- If you're not looking for any honest discussion, agreement, meeting halfway or middle ground, don't bother arguing with me. Selfish narcissists need not apply. <cite>Kineth posted [p:883456645] in SJW Berkle... [t:75596757]...</cite> <quote><cite>Transcendentia posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Kineth posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Transcendentia posted...</cite> How about you start at the part where you acknowledge that you were making up shit about UC Berkeley when the article has nothing to do with them?</quote> Add me to your ignore list, please. Would really like for you to stop polluting my topic. I already explained that I saw the video and then glossed over the article and missed that she's a teacher, not a professor. Stop being paranoid.</quote> I'm sorry that you don't like hard questions, but no, you didn't answer that concern. And why would I ignore someone because they requested I did. You should just ignore me in that case.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Transcendentia 07/23/17 4:19:15 PM #80:	Kineth posted... Transcendentia posted... Kineth posted... Transcendentia posted... How about you start at the part where you acknowledge that you were making up shit about UC Berkeley when the article has nothing to do with them? Add me to your ignore list, please. Would really like for you to stop polluting my topic. I already explained that I saw the video and then glossed over the article and missed that she's a teacher, not a professor. Stop being paranoid. I'm sorry that you don't like hard questions, but no, you didn't answer that concern. And why would I ignore someone because they requested I did. You should just ignore me in that case. Since you're so keen on hard questions, I asked you a couple in my previous post. Please answer them if you're so inclined to talk about hard questions. <cite>Transcendentia posted [p:883456680] in SJW Berkle... [t:75596757]...</cite> <quote><cite>Kineth posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Transcendentia posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Kineth posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Transcendentia posted...</cite> How about you start at the part where you acknowledge that you were making up shit about UC Berkeley when the article has nothing to do with them?</quote> Add me to your ignore list, please. Would really like for you to stop polluting my topic. I already explained that I saw the video and then glossed over the article and missed that she's a teacher, not a professor. Stop being paranoid.</quote> I'm sorry that you don't like hard questions, but no, you didn't answer that concern. And why would I ignore someone because they requested I did. You should just ignore me in that case.</quote> Since you're so keen on hard questions, I asked you a couple in my previous post. Please answer them if you're so inclined to talk about hard questions.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Antifar 07/23/17 4:26:53 PM #81:	Here's the Traditionalist Worker's Party website, just to clear up whether Nazi is an appropriate descriptor https://www.tradworker.org/platform/ The organized Jewish community’s record of deceit, duplicity, and double-standards in lobbying against American interests within the American political system is unmatched. --- kin to all that throbs <cite>Antifar posted [p:883457058] in SJW Berkle... [t:75596757]...</cite> <quote>Here's the Traditionalist Worker's Party website, just to clear up whether Nazi is an appropriate descriptor https://www.tradworker.org/platform/ <quote>The organized Jewish community’s record of deceit, duplicity, and double-standards in lobbying against American interests within the American political system is unmatched.</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DiesMortis 07/23/17 4:28:58 PM #82:	Antifar posted... Here's the Traditionalist Worker's Party website, just to clear up whether Nazi is an appropriate descriptor https://www.tradworker.org/platform/ The organized Jewish community’s record of deceit, duplicity, and double-standards in lobbying against American interests within the American political system is unmatched. https://www.tradworker.org/propaganda/ Fucking lol "Why would you accuse them of being Nazis?" --- Maledicte \| http://www.last.fm/user/chaosinferno "So sleep, sister sleep, and dream, me broken at your feet." <cite>DiesMortis posted [p:883457160] in SJW Berkle... [t:75596757]...</cite> <quote><cite>Antifar posted...</cite> <quote>Here's the Traditionalist Worker's Party website, just to clear up whether Nazi is an appropriate descriptor https://www.tradworker.org/platform/ <quote>The organized Jewish community’s record of deceit, duplicity, and double-standards in lobbying against American interests within the American political system is unmatched.</quote></quote> https://www.tradworker.org/propaganda/ Fucking lol "Why would you accuse them of being Nazis?"</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Transcendentia 07/23/17 4:30:01 PM #83:	Antifar posted... Here's the Traditionalist Worker's Party website, just to clear up whether Nazi is an appropriate descriptor https://www.tradworker.org/platform/ The organized Jewish community’s record of deceit, duplicity, and double-standards in lobbying against American interests within the American political system is unmatched. The entire block provides context that makes this sound almost like a leftist position against Israel. Here it is: The State of Israel has a large and powerful Jewish population in America, many of whom are more loyal to Israel than they are to America. The organized Jewish community’s record of deceit, duplicity, and double-standards in lobbying against American interests within the American political system is unmatched. America spends billions annually in graft payments to the Israeli government, has hemorrhaged trillions in military expenses on wars of choice we were driven to wage by the Israel Lobby, and has tragically ended or ruined the lives of tens of thousands of servicemen and women who’ve been killed, maimed, and traumatized in those wars. AIPAC and all other lobbying groups for foreign interests will be banned. Dual citizenship will be scrapped. Wealth transfers of our tax dollars to Israel and other “allies” will be terminated. All immigrants caught advocating for foreign governments will have their citizenship revoked and will be deported post haste. Private charities, civic organizations, and corporations will be monitored for foreign subversive activity and those found guilty will be vigorously prosecuted. In any case, it's fucking stupid. But does that mean we should defend violence against them? If so, why not ask for the teacher to be given a firearm so she can gun them down the next time they march? <cite>Transcendentia posted [p:883457211] in SJW Berkle... [t:75596757]...</cite> <quote><cite>Antifar posted...</cite> <quote>Here's the Traditionalist Worker's Party website, just to clear up whether Nazi is an appropriate descriptor https://www.tradworker.org/platform/ <quote>The organized Jewish community’s record of deceit, duplicity, and double-standards in lobbying against American interests within the American political system is unmatched.</quote></quote> The entire block provides context that makes this sound almost like a leftist position against Israel. Here it is: The State of Israel has a large and powerful Jewish population in America, many of whom are more loyal to Israel than they are to America. The organized Jewish community’s record of deceit, duplicity, and double-standards in lobbying against American interests within the American political system is unmatched. America spends billions annually in graft payments to the Israeli government, has hemorrhaged trillions in military expenses on wars of choice we were driven to wage by the Israel Lobby, and has tragically ended or ruined the lives of tens of thousands of servicemen and women who’ve been killed, maimed, and traumatized in those wars. AIPAC and all other lobbying groups for foreign interests will be banned. Dual citizenship will be scrapped. Wealth transfers of our tax dollars to Israel and other “allies” will be terminated. All immigrants caught advocating for foreign governments will have their citizenship revoked and will be deported post haste. Private charities, civic organizations, and corporations will be monitored for foreign subversive activity and those found guilty will be vigorously prosecuted. In any case, it's fucking stupid. But does that mean we should defend violence against them? If so, why not ask for the teacher to be given a firearm so she can gun them down the next time they march?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kineth 07/23/17 4:31:05 PM #84:	Transcendentia posted... Since you're so keen on hard questions, I asked you a couple in my previous post. Please answer them if you're so inclined to talk about hard questions. I don't believe you have any intent on reciprocating especially since I asked first. It's also concern trolling. But here's an answer for you that you'll probably waste your time focusing on instead of sticking to the subject. White nationalism is much more of a threat than black nationalism. --- If you're not looking for any honest discussion, agreement, meeting halfway or middle ground, don't bother arguing with me. Selfish narcissists need not apply. <cite>Kineth posted [p:883457264] in SJW Berkle... [t:75596757]...</cite> <quote><cite>Transcendentia posted...</cite> <quote>Since you're so keen on hard questions, I asked you a couple in my previous post. Please answer them if you're so inclined to talk about hard questions.</quote> I don't believe you have any intent on reciprocating especially since I asked first. It's also concern trolling. But here's an answer for you that you'll probably waste your time focusing on instead of sticking to the subject. White nationalism is much more of a threat than black nationalism.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
luigi13579 07/23/17 4:32:34 PM #85:	I'm against the violence here, but I have to laugh at the irony of: "Stop calling them Nazis! Please apply some nuance!" "The anti-facists are the real facists!" <cite>luigi13579 posted [p:883457326] in SJW Berkle... [t:75596757]...</cite> <quote>I'm against the violence here, but I have to laugh at the irony of: "Stop calling them Nazis! Please apply some nuance!" "The anti-facists are the real facists!"</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Transcendentia 07/23/17 4:33:55 PM #86:	Kineth posted... Transcendentia posted... Since you're so keen on hard questions, I asked you a couple in my previous post. Please answer them if you're so inclined to talk about hard questions. I don't believe you have any intent on reciprocating especially since I asked first. It's also concern trolling. But here's an answer for you that you'll probably waste your time focusing on instead of sticking to the subject. White nationalism is much more of a threat than black nationalism. I already answered your "difficult" question. And do you think white nationalism is more of a threat than black nationalism in South Africa and Zimbabwe? What about in communities where there are more black people than white people? Like in many neighborhoods in Chicago. How do you define white nationalism? You didn't answer that one. <cite>Transcendentia posted [p:883457393] in SJW Berkle... [t:75596757]...</cite> <quote><cite>Kineth posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Transcendentia posted...</cite> <quote>Since you're so keen on hard questions, I asked you a couple in my previous post. Please answer them if you're so inclined to talk about hard questions.</quote> I don't believe you have any intent on reciprocating especially since I asked first. It's also concern trolling. But here's an answer for you that you'll probably waste your time focusing on instead of sticking to the subject. White nationalism is much more of a threat than black nationalism.</quote> I already answered your "difficult" question. And do you think white nationalism is more of a threat than black nationalism in South Africa and Zimbabwe? What about in communities where there are more black people than white people? Like in many neighborhoods in Chicago. How do you define white nationalism? You didn't answer that one.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Alucard188 07/23/17 4:36:08 PM #87:	Antifar posted... Here's the Traditionalist Worker's Party website, just to clear up whether Nazi is an appropriate descriptor https://www.tradworker.org/platform/ The organized Jewish community’s record of deceit, duplicity, and double-standards in lobbying against American interests within the American political system is unmatched. If anything, their emblem invokes imagery of the hammer and sickle from the Soviets. 3.1 COMMUNITY CHOICE Permit Homeowner Associations and other private organizations to define the religious and ethnic character of their respective neighborhoods and communities. Terminate federal social engineering efforts to forcibly dissolve historic communities with voucher programs, refugee placements, and %u201Cfair housing%u201D regulations that deprive communities of their traditional character. Communities and regions should have the right to define their own ethnic, cultural and religious character. As if Homeowner Associations weren't genital warts already. --- Face it Cloud is a gaming icon and has appered in lots of games while mario has only appeared in 2 games sunshine and 64~xSlashbomBx <cite>Alucard188 posted [p:883457507] in SJW Berkle... [t:75596757]...</cite> <quote><cite>Antifar posted...</cite> <quote>Here's the Traditionalist Worker's Party website, just to clear up whether Nazi is an appropriate descriptor https://www.tradworker.org/platform/ <quote>The organized Jewish community’s record of deceit, duplicity, and double-standards in lobbying against American interests within the American political system is unmatched.</quote></quote> If anything, their emblem invokes imagery of the hammer and sickle from the Soviets. <quote>3.1 COMMUNITY CHOICE Permit Homeowner Associations and other private organizations to define the religious and ethnic character of their respective neighborhoods and communities. Terminate federal social engineering efforts to forcibly dissolve historic communities with voucher programs, refugee placements, and %u201Cfair housing%u201D regulations that deprive communities of their traditional character. Communities and regions should have the right to define their own ethnic, cultural and religious character.</quote> As if Homeowner Associations weren't genital warts already.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DiesMortis 07/23/17 4:37:35 PM #88:	The emblem is a clear callback to workers rights, a platform the original Nazi party used as well. Successful revolutions start with the most marginalized groups in a nation--the working class. Where it goes from there differs greatly across political spheres. --- Maledicte \| http://www.last.fm/user/chaosinferno "So sleep, sister sleep, and dream, me broken at your feet." <cite>DiesMortis posted [p:883457585] in SJW Berkle... [t:75596757]...</cite> <quote>The emblem is a clear callback to workers rights, a platform the original Nazi party used as well. Successful revolutions start with the most marginalized groups in a nation--the working class. Where it goes from there differs greatly across political spheres.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Transcendentia 07/23/17 4:38:15 PM #89:	Alucard188 posted... Antifar posted... Here's the Traditionalist Worker's Party website, just to clear up whether Nazi is an appropriate descriptor https://www.tradworker.org/platform/ The organized Jewish community’s record of deceit, duplicity, and double-standards in lobbying against American interests within the American political system is unmatched. If anything, their emblem invokes imagery of the hammer and sickle from the Soviets. Not to mention that recently some of these same posters were criticizing the right's proposed new law that would make it illegal to support boycotts against Israel, whereas these so-called alt-righters have the completely opposite stance towards Israel. It's strange how these CEmen are accusing the same group of people as being Nazis and also Zionists depending on when it's convenient to do so. <cite>Transcendentia posted [p:883457626] in SJW Berkle... [t:75596757]...</cite> <quote><cite>Alucard188 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Antifar posted...</cite> <quote>Here's the Traditionalist Worker's Party website, just to clear up whether Nazi is an appropriate descriptor https://www.tradworker.org/platform/ <quote>The organized Jewish community’s record of deceit, duplicity, and double-standards in lobbying against American interests within the American political system is unmatched.</quote></quote> If anything, their emblem invokes imagery of the hammer and sickle from the Soviets.</quote> Not to mention that recently some of these same posters were criticizing the right's proposed new law that would make it illegal to support boycotts against Israel, whereas these so-called alt-righters have the completely opposite stance towards Israel. It's strange how these CEmen are accusing the same group of people as being Nazis and also Zionists depending on when it's convenient to do so.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Transcendentia 07/23/17 4:39:30 PM #91:	DiesMortis posted... The emblem is a clear callback to workers rights, a platform the original Nazi party used as well. Successful revolutions start with the most marginalized groups in a nation--the working class. Where it goes from there differs greatly across political spheres. So....are they communists rather than white nationalists or Nazis? Since when is white nationalism friendly with communism? <cite>Transcendentia posted [p:883457697] in SJW Berkle... [t:75596757]...</cite> <quote><cite>DiesMortis posted...</cite> <quote>The emblem is a clear callback to workers rights, a platform the original Nazi party used as well. Successful revolutions start with the most marginalized groups in a nation--the working class. Where it goes from there differs greatly across political spheres.</quote> So....are they communists rather than white nationalists or Nazis? Since when is white nationalism friendly with communism?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Alucard188 07/23/17 4:40:28 PM #92:	DiesMortis posted... The emblem is a clear callback to workers rights, a platform the original Nazi party used as well. Successful revolutions start with the most marginalized groups in a nation--the working class. Where it goes from there differs greatly across political spheres. This sounds like how Trump was elected. The working, middle class got ignored in favoured of the elite metropolitans, and now we have an orange ape in the white house. --- Face it Cloud is a gaming icon and has appered in lots of games while mario has only appeared in 2 games sunshine and 64~xSlashbomBx <cite>Alucard188 posted [p:883457753] in SJW Berkle... [t:75596757]...</cite> <quote><cite>DiesMortis posted...</cite> <quote>The emblem is a clear callback to workers rights, a platform the original Nazi party used as well. Successful revolutions start with the most marginalized groups in a nation--the working class. Where it goes from there differs greatly across political spheres.</quote> This sounds like how Trump was elected. The working, middle class got ignored in favoured of the elite metropolitans, and now we have an orange ape in the white house.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DiesMortis 07/23/17 4:40:53 PM #93:	Alucard188 posted... DiesMortis posted... The emblem is a clear callback to workers rights, a platform the original Nazi party used as well. Successful revolutions start with the most marginalized groups in a nation--the working class. Where it goes from there differs greatly across political spheres. This sounds like how Trump was elected. The working, middle class got ignored in favoured of the elite metropolitans, and now we have an orange ape in the white house. Precisely. --- Maledicte \| http://www.last.fm/user/chaosinferno "So sleep, sister sleep, and dream, me broken at your feet." <cite>DiesMortis posted [p:883457778] in SJW Berkle... [t:75596757]...</cite> <quote><cite>Alucard188 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>DiesMortis posted...</cite> <quote>The emblem is a clear callback to workers rights, a platform the original Nazi party used as well. Successful revolutions start with the most marginalized groups in a nation--the working class. Where it goes from there differs greatly across political spheres.</quote> This sounds like how Trump was elected. The working, middle class got ignored in favoured of the elite metropolitans, and now we have an orange ape in the white house.</quote> Precisely.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kineth 07/23/17 4:41:43 PM #94:	Transcendentia posted... Kineth posted... Transcendentia posted... Since you're so keen on hard questions, I asked you a couple in my previous post. Please answer them if you're so inclined to talk about hard questions. I don't believe you have any intent on reciprocating especially since I asked first. It's also concern trolling. But here's an answer for you that you'll probably waste your time focusing on instead of sticking to the subject. White nationalism is much more of a threat than black nationalism. I already answered your "difficult" question. And do you think white nationalism is more of a threat than black nationalism in South Africa and Zimbabwe? This is concern trolling and I'd appreciate you not wasting my time with this question. What about in communities where there are more black people than white people? Like in many neighborhoods in Chicago. The structure of power still goes through white people so while racism on the street from black people may be a concern (hint: it's not), it's nothing compared to white nationalism, like the white nationalist narrative of taking a shit on black neighborhoods in Baltimore, Detroit and Chicago in order to talk about how bad things are there because of the presence of black people. How do you define white nationalism? You didn't answer that one. Is there supposed to be a subjective definition for it? It's a fucking straight up thing. Read a dictionary, some history and read an encyclopedia. --- If you're not looking for any honest discussion, agreement, meeting halfway or middle ground, don't bother arguing with me. Selfish narcissists need not apply. <cite>Kineth posted [p:883457827] in SJW Berkle... [t:75596757]...</cite> <quote><cite>Transcendentia posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Kineth posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Transcendentia posted...</cite> <quote>Since you're so keen on hard questions, I asked you a couple in my previous post. Please answer them if you're so inclined to talk about hard questions.</quote> I don't believe you have any intent on reciprocating especially since I asked first. It's also concern trolling. But here's an answer for you that you'll probably waste your time focusing on instead of sticking to the subject. White nationalism is much more of a threat than black nationalism.</quote> I already answered your "difficult" question. And do you think white nationalism is more of a threat than black nationalism in South Africa and Zimbabwe?</quote> This is concern trolling and I'd appreciate you not wasting my time with this question. <quote>What about in communities where there are more black people than white people? Like in many neighborhoods in Chicago.</quote> The structure of power still goes through white people so while racism on the street from black people may be a concern (hint: it's not), it's nothing compared to white nationalism, like the white nationalist narrative of taking a shit on black neighborhoods in Baltimore, Detroit and Chicago in order to talk about how bad things are there because of the presence of black people. <quote>How do you define white nationalism? You didn't answer that one.</quote> Is there supposed to be a subjective definition for it? It's a fucking straight up thing. Read a dictionary, some history and read an encyclopedia.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Transcendentia 07/23/17 4:43:08 PM #95:	Kineth posted... Transcendentia posted... Kineth posted... Transcendentia posted... Since you're so keen on hard questions, I asked you a couple in my previous post. Please answer them if you're so inclined to talk about hard questions. I don't believe you have any intent on reciprocating especially since I asked first. It's also concern trolling. But here's an answer for you that you'll probably waste your time focusing on instead of sticking to the subject. White nationalism is much more of a threat than black nationalism. I already answered your "difficult" question. And do you think white nationalism is more of a threat than black nationalism in South Africa and Zimbabwe? This is concern trolling and I'd appreciate you not wasting my time with this question. What about in communities where there are more black people than white people? Like in many neighborhoods in Chicago. The structure of power still goes through white people so while racism on the street from black people may be a concern (hint: it's not), it's nothing compared to white nationalism, like the white nationalist narrative of taking a shit on black neighborhoods in Baltimore, Detroit and Chicago in order to talk about how bad things are there because of the presence of black people. How do you define white nationalism? You didn't answer that one. Is there supposed to be a subjective definition for it? It's a fucking straight up thing. Read a dictionary, some history and read an encyclopedia. So basically you didn't provide any answers, and are hiding behind some paranoid accusations of "concern trolling." Lmfao dude just add me to your ignore list so you don't see my topics anymore. You talk a big game but never answer anything straight up, at least not with padding everything with tremendous amounts of fragility and obfuscation. <cite>Transcendentia posted [p:883457910] in SJW Berkle... [t:75596757]...</cite> <quote><cite>Kineth posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Transcendentia posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Kineth posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Transcendentia posted...</cite> <quote>Since you're so keen on hard questions, I asked you a couple in my previous post. Please answer them if you're so inclined to talk about hard questions.</quote> I don't believe you have any intent on reciprocating especially since I asked first. It's also concern trolling. But here's an answer for you that you'll probably waste your time focusing on instead of sticking to the subject. White nationalism is much more of a threat than black nationalism.</quote> I already answered your "difficult" question. And do you think white nationalism is more of a threat than black nationalism in South Africa and Zimbabwe?</quote> This is concern trolling and I'd appreciate you not wasting my time with this question. <quote>What about in communities where there are more black people than white people? Like in many neighborhoods in Chicago.</quote> The structure of power still goes through white people so while racism on the street from black people may be a concern (hint: it's not), it's nothing compared to white nationalism, like the white nationalist narrative of taking a shit on black neighborhoods in Baltimore, Detroit and Chicago in order to talk about how bad things are there because of the presence of black people. <quote>How do you define white nationalism? You didn't answer that one.</quote> Is there supposed to be a subjective definition for it? It's a fucking straight up thing. Read a dictionary, some history and read an encyclopedia.</quote> So basically you didn't provide any answers, and are hiding behind some paranoid accusations of "concern trolling." Lmfao dude just add me to your ignore list so you don't see my topics anymore. You talk a big game but never answer anything straight up, at least not with padding everything with tremendous amounts of fragility and obfuscation.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Antifar 07/23/17 4:44:25 PM #96:	Transcendentia posted... DiesMortis posted... The emblem is a clear callback to workers rights, a platform the original Nazi party used as well. Successful revolutions start with the most marginalized groups in a nation--the working class. Where it goes from there differs greatly across political spheres. So....are they communists rather than white nationalists or Nazis? Since when is white nationalism friendly with communism? They are white nationalists coopting some rhetoric about the working class. I think they'd be the first to say that they are in no way communists, and the rest of their platform includes calls for things that are anathema to the left. They're pretty strongly pro-life, and call for a voucher system for education and healthcare, rather than universal programs. Transcendentia posted... Not to mention that recently some of these same posters were criticizing the right's proposed new law that would make it illegal to support boycotts against Israel, whereas these so-called alt-righters have the completely opposite stance towards Israel. It's strange how these CEmen are accusing the same group of people as being Nazis and also Zionists depending on when it's convenient to do so. The alt-right is very clear that they are distinct from mainstream conservatism, this being one of many issues where they differ. They are not the same group of people, and they are criticized for different reasons. Furthermore, that anti-BDS bill had plenty of Democrats on board too. --- kin to all that throbs <cite>Antifar posted [p:883457988] in SJW Berkle... [t:75596757]...</cite> <quote><cite>Transcendentia posted...</cite> <quote><cite>DiesMortis posted...</cite> <quote>The emblem is a clear callback to workers rights, a platform the original Nazi party used as well. Successful revolutions start with the most marginalized groups in a nation--the working class. Where it goes from there differs greatly across political spheres.</quote> So....are they communists rather than white nationalists or Nazis? Since when is white nationalism friendly with communism?</quote> They are white nationalists coopting some rhetoric about the working class. I think they'd be the first to say that they are in no way communists, and the rest of their platform includes calls for things that are anathema to the left. They're pretty strongly pro-life, and call for a voucher system for education and healthcare, rather than universal programs. <cite>Transcendentia posted...</cite> <quote>Not to mention that recently some of these same posters were criticizing the right's proposed new law that would make it illegal to support boycotts against Israel, whereas these so-called alt-righters have the completely opposite stance towards Israel. It's strange how these CEmen are accusing the same group of people as being Nazis and also Zionists depending on when it's convenient to do so.</quote> The alt-right is very clear that they are distinct from mainstream conservatism, this being one of many issues where they differ. They are not the same group of people, and they are criticized for different reasons. Furthermore, that anti-BDS bill had plenty of Democrats on board too.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Transcendentia 07/23/17 4:44:36 PM #97:	I mean I was more than willing to engage you on the terms in your sig, but you're clearly just a troll because you're not holding to your own terms at all. <cite>Transcendentia posted [p:883457996] in SJW Berkle... [t:75596757]...</cite> <quote>I mean I was more than willing to engage you on the terms in your sig, but you're clearly just a troll because you're not holding to your own terms at all.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mal_Fet 07/23/17 4:46:52 PM #99:	Antifar posted... They are white nationalists coopting some rhetoric about the working class. I think they'd be the first to say that they are in no way communists, and the rest of their platform includes calls for things that are anathema to the left. Not really. The Nazis were socialists in the most fundamental sense of the word. Their state controlled the means of production, the price of goods, and workers' salaries. Whether or not you're a racist has no bearing on whether you're on the left or right. --- Freedom is the right to tell people what they do not want to hear. -George Orwell <cite>Mal_Fet posted [p:883458130] in SJW Berkle... [t:75596757]...</cite> <quote><cite>Antifar posted...</cite> <quote> They are white nationalists coopting some rhetoric about the working class. I think they'd be the first to say that they are in no way communists, and the rest of their platform includes calls for things that are anathema to the left. </quote> Not really. The Nazis were socialists in the most fundamental sense of the word. Their state controlled the means of production, the price of goods, and workers' salaries. Whether or not you're a racist has no bearing on whether you're on the left or right.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kineth 07/23/17 4:47:08 PM #100:	Transcendentia posted... So basically you didn't provide any answers, and are hiding behind some paranoid accusations of "concern trolling." Lmfao dude just add me to your ignore list so you don't see my topics anymore. You talk a big game but never answer anything straight up, at least not with padding everything with tremendous amounts of fragility and obfuscation. I find it laughable that you're asking me to ignore you. If you're gonna cry a big game, you should fucking do it yourself. --- If you're not looking for any honest discussion, agreement, meeting halfway or middle ground, don't bother arguing with me. Selfish narcissists need not apply. <cite>Kineth posted [p:883458151] in SJW Berkle... [t:75596757]...</cite> <quote><cite>Transcendentia posted...</cite> <quote>So basically you didn't provide any answers, and are hiding behind some paranoid accusations of "concern trolling." Lmfao dude just add me to your ignore list so you don't see my topics anymore. You talk a big game but never answer anything straight up, at least not with padding everything with tremendous amounts of fragility and obfuscation.</quote> I find it laughable that you're asking me to ignore you. If you're gonna cry a big game, you should fucking do it yourself.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Transcendentia 07/23/17 5:03:07 PM #101:	@Kineth I have more serious and difficult questions. Do you want to have a serious conversation or not? <cite>Transcendentia posted [p:883458989] in SJW Berkle... [t:75596757]...</cite> <quote>@Kineth I have more serious and difficult questions. Do you want to have a serious conversation or not?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Esrac 07/23/17 5:16:25 PM #102:	Transcendentia posted... Antifar posted... Here's the Traditionalist Worker's Party website, just to clear up whether Nazi is an appropriate descriptor https://www.tradworker.org/platform/ The organized Jewish community’s record of deceit, duplicity, and double-standards in lobbying against American interests within the American political system is unmatched. The entire block provides context that makes this sound almost like a leftist position against Israel. Here it is: The State of Israel has a large and powerful Jewish population in America, many of whom are more loyal to Israel than they are to America. The organized Jewish community’s record of deceit, duplicity, and double-standards in lobbying against American interests within the American political system is unmatched. America spends billions annually in graft payments to the Israeli government, has hemorrhaged trillions in military expenses on wars of choice we were driven to wage by the Israel Lobby, and has tragically ended or ruined the lives of tens of thousands of servicemen and women who’ve been killed, maimed, and traumatized in those wars. AIPAC and all other lobbying groups for foreign interests will be banned. Dual citizenship will be scrapped. Wealth transfers of our tax dollars to Israel and other “allies” will be terminated. All immigrants caught advocating for foreign governments will have their citizenship revoked and will be deported post haste. Private charities, civic organizations, and corporations will be monitored for foreign subversive activity and those found guilty will be vigorously prosecuted. In any case, it's fucking stupid. But does that mean we should defend violence against them? If so, why not ask for the teacher to be given a firearm so she can gun them down the next time they march? You can tell they're not leftists because leftists don't give a shit about loyalty to America. --- http://steamcommunity.com/id/Esrac <cite>Esrac posted [p:883459700] in SJW Berkle... [t:75596757]...</cite> <quote><cite>Transcendentia posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Antifar posted...</cite> <quote>Here's the Traditionalist Worker's Party website, just to clear up whether Nazi is an appropriate descriptor https://www.tradworker.org/platform/ <quote>The organized Jewish community’s record of deceit, duplicity, and double-standards in lobbying against American interests within the American political system is unmatched.</quote></quote> The entire block provides context that makes this sound almost like a leftist position against Israel. Here it is: The State of Israel has a large and powerful Jewish population in America, many of whom are more loyal to Israel than they are to America. The organized Jewish community’s record of deceit, duplicity, and double-standards in lobbying against American interests within the American political system is unmatched. America spends billions annually in graft payments to the Israeli government, has hemorrhaged trillions in military expenses on wars of choice we were driven to wage by the Israel Lobby, and has tragically ended or ruined the lives of tens of thousands of servicemen and women who’ve been killed, maimed, and traumatized in those wars. AIPAC and all other lobbying groups for foreign interests will be banned. Dual citizenship will be scrapped. Wealth transfers of our tax dollars to Israel and other “allies” will be terminated. All immigrants caught advocating for foreign governments will have their citizenship revoked and will be deported post haste. Private charities, civic organizations, and corporations will be monitored for foreign subversive activity and those found guilty will be vigorously prosecuted. In any case, it's fucking stupid. But does that mean we should defend violence against them? If so, why not ask for the teacher to be given a firearm so she can gun them down the next time they march?</quote> You can tell they're not leftists because leftists don't give a shit about loyalty to America.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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