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Glass_Phantom
07/23/17 12:05:58 PM
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He can control all metal -- does that mean he could lift the hammer, even though he isn't strictly "worthy?"
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DoctorVader
07/23/17 12:14:17 PM
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He couldn't, but I don't know if that's changed recently.
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BeyondWalls
07/23/17 12:14:50 PM
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A magnetic alloy is a combination of various metals from the periodic table that contains at least one of the three main magnetic elements: iron (Fe), nickel (Ni), and cobalt (Co).
In Marvel continuity, Mjolnir is forged by Dwarven blacksmiths, and is composed of the fictional Asgardian metal uru.

I guess it depends what you think uru is made of or if it's an element?
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pinky0926
07/23/17 12:24:14 PM
#4:


Hulk can lift just about anything and couldn't budge the hammer an inch. Being able to move it has nothing to do with material or weight, and everything to do with magic.
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Lawlfulcoptors1
07/23/17 1:16:41 PM
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Do you think Thor shakes it after he's done using it?
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the_cajun88
07/23/17 1:17:27 PM
#7:


pinky0926 posted...
Hulk can lift just about anything and couldn't budge the hammer an inch. Being able to move it has nothing to do with material or weight, and everything to do with magic.


He's lifted it before IIRC.
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GOATSLAYER
07/23/17 1:17:37 PM
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GOATTHlEF posted...
He can't. He can stop it in mid air, but he can't manipulate otherwise.
People who HAVE lifted Mjolnir's hammer.

1.) Deadpool (he wasn't aware that it was the real Mjolnir though)
2.) Rogue
3.) Conan the Cimmerian
4.) Black Widow
5.) Storm
6.) Superman
7.) Hulk

How are 1 and 4 more worthy than Spider-man?
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Doe
07/23/17 1:19:08 PM
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GOATTHlEF posted...
He can't. He can stop it in mid air, but he can't manipulate otherwise.
People who HAVE lifted Mjolnir's hammer.

1.) Deadpool (he wasn't aware that it was the real Mjolnir though)
2.) Rogue
3.) Conan the Cimmerian
4.) Black Widow
5.) Storm
6.) Superman
7.) Hulk

8.) Vision
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the_cajun88
07/23/17 1:19:57 PM
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Doe posted...
GOATTHlEF posted...
He can't. He can stop it in mid air, but he can't manipulate otherwise.
People who HAVE lifted Mjolnir's hammer.

1.) Deadpool (he wasn't aware that it was the real Mjolnir though)
2.) Rogue
3.) Conan the Cimmerian
4.) Black Widow
5.) Storm
6.) Superman
7.) Hulk

8.) Vision


9. thor

I mean...
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stone
07/23/17 1:20:16 PM
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Doe posted...
GOATTHlEF posted...
He can't. He can stop it in mid air, but he can't manipulate otherwise.
People who HAVE lifted Mjolnir's hammer.

1.) Deadpool (he wasn't aware that it was the real Mjolnir though)
2.) Rogue
3.) Conan the Cimmerian
4.) Black Widow
5.) Storm
6.) Superman
7.) Hulk

8.) Vision

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HeyPuff
07/23/17 1:20:44 PM
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GOATSLAYER posted...
GOATTHlEF posted...
He can't. He can stop it in mid air, but he can't manipulate otherwise.
People who HAVE lifted Mjolnir's hammer.

1.) Deadpool (he wasn't aware that it was the real Mjolnir though)
2.) Rogue
3.) Conan the Cimmerian
4.) Black Widow
5.) Storm
6.) Superman
7.) Hulk

How are 1 and 4 more worthy than Spider-man?


As someone who knows jack shit about marvel, I'd say #4 is comic relief
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Knowledge_King
07/23/17 2:56:20 PM
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HeyPuff posted...

As someone who knows jack shit about marvel, I'd say #4 is comic relief


Nah it was a what if and she was legit worthy.

Anyways, yes he has. He can't use it's powers though, just move it as a battering ram.
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HeyPuff
07/23/17 2:57:12 PM
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Knowledge_King posted...
HeyPuff posted...

As someone who knows jack shit about marvel, I'd say #4 is comic relief


Nah it was a what if and she was legit worthy.

Anyways, yes he has. He can't use it's powers though, just move it as a battering ram.

Wait was number 4 dead pool? I meant deadpool
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Xelltrix
07/23/17 3:00:04 PM
#16:


1,2 & 4 are really shocking.

7 as well, kinda.



And Didn't Cap lift it? I swear I remember Cap lifting it in a comic and having both the shield and hammer...

Or was that Superman holding the shield and hammer in a crossover? I just 100% remember Shield + Hammer at some point.


Also also, why is that even spoiler tagged lol.
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CmndrHurricane
07/23/17 3:03:35 PM
#17:


can an elevator lift it?
or a forklift?
a crane?
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FF_Redux
07/23/17 3:05:13 PM
#18:


If I was Thor and Ian McKellan is Magneto, he'll lift my hammer alright ;)
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Swagnificent119
07/23/17 3:05:22 PM
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Swagnificent119
07/23/17 3:07:08 PM
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Xelltrix posted...
And Didn't Cap lift it? I swear I remember Cap lifting it in a comic and having both the shield and hammer...


at least two times in mainstream continuity.

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Pogo_Marimo
07/23/17 3:13:53 PM
#21:


Like most things in the continuity, Thor's Hammer has a stupid and unrestrained list of users.
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HeyPuff
07/23/17 3:14:38 PM
#22:


Pogo_Marimo posted...
Like most things in the continuity, Thor's Hammer has a stupid and unrestrained list of users.


Full of stupid opinions I see
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3rd_Best_Master
07/23/17 3:16:05 PM
#23:


Didn't Superman lift it only cause Odin temporarily removed the enchantment that restricted the hammer to worthy individuals?
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LordMarshal
07/23/17 3:18:14 PM
#24:


Oh shit, he KA-PWAKed them!
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DigitalCamera
07/23/17 3:18:29 PM
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Odin.
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Slayerblade11
07/23/17 3:18:33 PM
#26:


Deadpool lifted a fake hammer

Rogue was a "what if" story and was only able to life it after absorbing Thor's psychological profile with her powers.

Black Widow was a 'what if" story also. Took place where all heroes with powers were killed. Hammer saw her as worthy at the time

Main universe 616 Magneto can't lift the hammer or control it mid flight at all. It isn't magnetic for some reason. He could only control it in the ultimate universe

Hulk could only lift hammer in ultimate universe
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UnfairRepresent
07/23/17 3:18:46 PM
#27:


Basically anyone can lift it so long as the writer desires

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xVuawqOZCUU

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Alkeez
07/23/17 3:19:03 PM
#28:


CmndrHurricane posted...
can an elevator lift it?
or a forklift?
a crane?



Haha, funny questions. Lets say he enters an elevator and put down his hammer, what would happen if the elevator isnt "allowed" to lift it? Will it just wreck through the floor and crash into the pit? Or would the elevator just not be allowed to move upwards?
Or is the magic part of the hammer so that it only applies to when people try to lift it?
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itachi15243
07/23/17 3:19:35 PM
#29:


Didn't some random paramedic guy lift it once just to bring it back to Thor, not even realizing that it was kinda a big deal?

I could swear this happened at some point
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Skywalker82
07/23/17 3:19:41 PM
#30:


Did they recon Magneto where they said he could manipulate all matter, not just magnetic ones, on a molecular level?
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Swagnificent119
07/23/17 3:21:10 PM
#31:


itachi15243 posted...
Didn't some random paramedic guy lift it once just to bring it back to Thor, not even realizing that it was kinda a big deal?

I could swear this happened at some point


Wouldn't doubt it, Marvel always loves to throw out the "Emergency Services are the Real Heroes" whenever they can

Remember when it was firefighters, cops and paramedics that ended the civil war?
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3rd_Best_Master
07/23/17 3:22:00 PM
#32:


Alkeez posted...
CmndrHurricane posted...
can an elevator lift it?
or a forklift?
a crane?



Haha, funny questions. Lets say he enters an elevator and put down his hammer, what would happen if the elevator isnt "allowed" to lift it? Will it just wreck through the floor and crash into the pit? Or would the elevator just not be allowed to move upwards?
Or is the magic part of the hammer so that it only applies to when people try to lift it?

The elevator doesn't lift the hammer, it just moves things up and down. If the elevator couldn't move it up and down as part of its function as an elevator then the Helicarrier would also plummet from the sky whenever Thor sets his hammer down. The more interesting question is the crane.
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ZCheveyo
07/23/17 3:23:02 PM
#33:


itachi15243 posted...
Didn't some random paramedic guy lift it once just to bring it back to Thor, not even realizing that it was kinda a big deal?

I could swear this happened at some point

Yes.
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LordMarshal
07/23/17 3:24:00 PM
#34:


Red hulk can lift it in space.
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Doe
07/23/17 3:28:16 PM
#35:


ZCheveyo posted...
itachi15243 posted...
Didn't some random paramedic guy lift it once just to bring it back to Thor, not even realizing that it was kinda a big deal?

I could swear this happened at some point

Yes.

Does anyone have the actual panel
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Xeno14
07/23/17 3:32:01 PM
#36:


Skywalker82 posted...
Did they recon Magneto where they said he could manipulate all matter, not just magnetic ones, on a molecular level?

techinically all matter has some sort of magnetism . There are multiple types of magnetism when it comes to matter. Paramagnetism, diamagnetism(this is what all matter has), ferromagnetism(this is the one we see most common), anti ferromagnetism, ferrimagnetism
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Alkeez
07/23/17 3:34:00 PM
#37:


3rd_Best_Master posted...
Alkeez posted...
CmndrHurricane posted...
can an elevator lift it?
or a forklift?
a crane?



Haha, funny questions. Lets say he enters an elevator and put down his hammer, what would happen if the elevator isnt "allowed" to lift it? Will it just wreck through the floor and crash into the pit? Or would the elevator just not be allowed to move upwards?
Or is the magic part of the hammer so that it only applies to when people try to lift it?

The elevator doesn't lift the hammer, it just moves things up and down. If the elevator couldn't move it up and down as part of its function as an elevator then the Helicarrier would also plummet from the sky whenever Thor sets his hammer down. The more interesting question is the crane.


It does lift, but since you have an example that actually answers the question, i agree with the conclusion. That if it doesnt affect the helicarrier, when he puts it down there, it wont affect the elevator either

I havent seen what you reference, but im going to assume its a real example ;)

I think ive only seen the first movie (thats where the hammer is in that military base, correct? One would assume that these people have done everything in their power to move the hammer, so cranes and forklifts would probably have been tried, dont you think? Even if we dont see it, its not hard to imagine that theyve tried a lot of different techniques. Not just: Nope, i cant lift it up with my hands, so lets assume its not moveable xD
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RobertFripp
07/23/17 3:38:01 PM
#38:


GOATTHlEF posted...
He can't. He can stop it in mid air, but he can't manipulate otherwise.
People who HAVE lifted Mjolnir's hammer.

1.) Deadpool (he wasn't aware that it was the real Mjolnir though)
2.) Rogue
3.) Conan the Cimmerian
4.) Black Widow
5.) Storm
6.) Superman
7.) Hulk


Pretty much none of these are from the mainstream continuity
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Pogo_Marimo
07/23/17 3:40:45 PM
#39:


HeyPuff posted...
Pogo_Marimo posted...
Like most things in the continuity, Thor's Hammer has a stupid and unrestrained list of users.


Full of stupid opinions I see

Shouldn't you be on /RedPill advocating wife beating and other such neanderthal musings?
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3rd_Best_Master
07/23/17 3:43:29 PM
#41:


Alkeez posted...
3rd_Best_Master posted...
Alkeez posted...
CmndrHurricane posted...
can an elevator lift it?
or a forklift?
a crane?



Haha, funny questions. Lets say he enters an elevator and put down his hammer, what would happen if the elevator isnt "allowed" to lift it? Will it just wreck through the floor and crash into the pit? Or would the elevator just not be allowed to move upwards?
Or is the magic part of the hammer so that it only applies to when people try to lift it?

The elevator doesn't lift the hammer, it just moves things up and down. If the elevator couldn't move it up and down as part of its function as an elevator then the Helicarrier would also plummet from the sky whenever Thor sets his hammer down. The more interesting question is the crane.


It does lift, but since you have an example that actually answers the question, i agree with the conclusion. That if it doesnt affect the helicarrier, when he puts it down there, it wont affect the elevator either

I havent seen what you reference, but im going to assume its a real example ;)

I think ive only seen the first movie (thats where the hammer is in that military base, correct? One would assume that these people have done everything in their power to move the hammer, so cranes and forklifts would probably have been tried, dont you think? Even if we dont see it, its not hard to imagine that theyve tried a lot of different techniques. Not just: Nope, i cant lift it up with my hands, so lets assume its not moveable xD

In the movie they tried using a truck and chain to tow the hammer and it still didn't budge. So crane is most likely out too.
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itachi15243
07/23/17 3:47:07 PM
#42:


3rd_Best_Master posted...
Alkeez posted...
3rd_Best_Master posted...
Alkeez posted...
CmndrHurricane posted...
can an elevator lift it?
or a forklift?
a crane?



Haha, funny questions. Lets say he enters an elevator and put down his hammer, what would happen if the elevator isnt "allowed" to lift it? Will it just wreck through the floor and crash into the pit? Or would the elevator just not be allowed to move upwards?
Or is the magic part of the hammer so that it only applies to when people try to lift it?

The elevator doesn't lift the hammer, it just moves things up and down. If the elevator couldn't move it up and down as part of its function as an elevator then the Helicarrier would also plummet from the sky whenever Thor sets his hammer down. The more interesting question is the crane.


It does lift, but since you have an example that actually answers the question, i agree with the conclusion. That if it doesnt affect the helicarrier, when he puts it down there, it wont affect the elevator either

I havent seen what you reference, but im going to assume its a real example ;)

I think ive only seen the first movie (thats where the hammer is in that military base, correct? One would assume that these people have done everything in their power to move the hammer, so cranes and forklifts would probably have been tried, dont you think? Even if we dont see it, its not hard to imagine that theyve tried a lot of different techniques. Not just: Nope, i cant lift it up with my hands, so lets assume its not moveable xD

In the movie they tried using a truck and chain to tow the hammer and it still didn't budge. So crane is most likely out too.


I wonder we if you put something like a piece of metal under the hammer and then used the crane on the metal instead. Seems it'd be more like an elevator that way.

I'm guessing directly trying to pick it up and or touching it are where the problems come in.
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3rd_Best_Master
07/23/17 3:49:14 PM
#43:


itachi15243 posted...
3rd_Best_Master posted...
Alkeez posted...
3rd_Best_Master posted...
Alkeez posted...
CmndrHurricane posted...
can an elevator lift it?
or a forklift?
a crane?



Haha, funny questions. Lets say he enters an elevator and put down his hammer, what would happen if the elevator isnt "allowed" to lift it? Will it just wreck through the floor and crash into the pit? Or would the elevator just not be allowed to move upwards?
Or is the magic part of the hammer so that it only applies to when people try to lift it?

The elevator doesn't lift the hammer, it just moves things up and down. If the elevator couldn't move it up and down as part of its function as an elevator then the Helicarrier would also plummet from the sky whenever Thor sets his hammer down. The more interesting question is the crane.


It does lift, but since you have an example that actually answers the question, i agree with the conclusion. That if it doesnt affect the helicarrier, when he puts it down there, it wont affect the elevator either

I havent seen what you reference, but im going to assume its a real example ;)

I think ive only seen the first movie (thats where the hammer is in that military base, correct? One would assume that these people have done everything in their power to move the hammer, so cranes and forklifts would probably have been tried, dont you think? Even if we dont see it, its not hard to imagine that theyve tried a lot of different techniques. Not just: Nope, i cant lift it up with my hands, so lets assume its not moveable xD

In the movie they tried using a truck and chain to tow the hammer and it still didn't budge. So crane is most likely out too.


I wonder we if you put something like a piece of metal under the hammer and then used the crane on the metal instead. Seems it'd be more like an elevator that way.

I'm guessing directly trying to pick it up and or touching it are where the problems come in.

I wonder if intent has anything to do with it. Like if someone got Thor on the helicarrier with the intent of taking the hammer, would it plummet from the sky once you succeeded in separating Thor from the hammer?
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Alkeez
07/23/17 3:55:45 PM
#44:


3rd_Best_Master posted...
itachi15243 posted...
3rd_Best_Master posted...
Alkeez posted...
3rd_Best_Master posted...
Alkeez posted...
CmndrHurricane posted...
can an elevator lift it?
or a forklift?
a crane?



Haha, funny questions. Lets say he enters an elevator and put down his hammer, what would happen if the elevator isnt "allowed" to lift it? Will it just wreck through the floor and crash into the pit? Or would the elevator just not be allowed to move upwards?
Or is the magic part of the hammer so that it only applies to when people try to lift it?

The elevator doesn't lift the hammer, it just moves things up and down. If the elevator couldn't move it up and down as part of its function as an elevator then the Helicarrier would also plummet from the sky whenever Thor sets his hammer down. The more interesting question is the crane.


It does lift, but since you have an example that actually answers the question, i agree with the conclusion. That if it doesnt affect the helicarrier, when he puts it down there, it wont affect the elevator either

I havent seen what you reference, but im going to assume its a real example ;)

I think ive only seen the first movie (thats where the hammer is in that military base, correct? One would assume that these people have done everything in their power to move the hammer, so cranes and forklifts would probably have been tried, dont you think? Even if we dont see it, its not hard to imagine that theyve tried a lot of different techniques. Not just: Nope, i cant lift it up with my hands, so lets assume its not moveable xD

In the movie they tried using a truck and chain to tow the hammer and it still didn't budge. So crane is most likely out too.


I wonder we if you put something like a piece of metal under the hammer and then used the crane on the metal instead. Seems it'd be more like an elevator that way.

I'm guessing directly trying to pick it up and or touching it are where the problems come in.

I wonder if intent has anything to do with it. Like if someone got Thor on the helicarrier with the intent of taking the hammer, would it plummet from the sky once you succeeded in separating Thor from the hammer?


Couldnt it be the case that it doesnt weigh more because of that intent, but it will just glue itself to whatever surface its on?
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itachi15243
07/23/17 3:56:23 PM
#45:


3rd_Best_Master posted...
itachi15243 posted...
3rd_Best_Master posted...
Alkeez posted...
3rd_Best_Master posted...
Alkeez posted...
CmndrHurricane posted...
can an elevator lift it?
or a forklift?
a crane?



Haha, funny questions. Lets say he enters an elevator and put down his hammer, what would happen if the elevator isnt "allowed" to lift it? Will it just wreck through the floor and crash into the pit? Or would the elevator just not be allowed to move upwards?
Or is the magic part of the hammer so that it only applies to when people try to lift it?

The elevator doesn't lift the hammer, it just moves things up and down. If the elevator couldn't move it up and down as part of its function as an elevator then the Helicarrier would also plummet from the sky whenever Thor sets his hammer down. The more interesting question is the crane.


It does lift, but since you have an example that actually answers the question, i agree with the conclusion. That if it doesnt affect the helicarrier, when he puts it down there, it wont affect the elevator either

I havent seen what you reference, but im going to assume its a real example ;)

I think ive only seen the first movie (thats where the hammer is in that military base, correct? One would assume that these people have done everything in their power to move the hammer, so cranes and forklifts would probably have been tried, dont you think? Even if we dont see it, its not hard to imagine that theyve tried a lot of different techniques. Not just: Nope, i cant lift it up with my hands, so lets assume its not moveable xD

In the movie they tried using a truck and chain to tow the hammer and it still didn't budge. So crane is most likely out too.


I wonder we if you put something like a piece of metal under the hammer and then used the crane on the metal instead. Seems it'd be more like an elevator that way.

I'm guessing directly trying to pick it up and or touching it are where the problems come in.

I wonder if intent has anything to do with it. Like if someone got Thor on the helicarrier with the intent of taking the hammer, would it plummet from the sky once you succeeded in separating Thor from the hammer?


Maybe. I'm guessing that it has something to do with it. There's also the possibility that when Thor sets the hammer down, he's essentially letting the helicarrier hold it up.

Intention would make a lot of sense though. Maybe the pilots are moreso thinking about carrying Thor than his hammer? I wonder if they started thinking about the hammer would it start weighing down until Thor picked it back up again?
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Denzien_of_Sega
07/23/17 4:04:33 PM
#46:


But can somebody lift/move Thor's hammer in Space?
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itachi15243
07/23/17 4:05:56 PM
#47:


Denzien_of_Sega posted...
But can somebody lift/move Thor's hammer in Space?


Red hulk did
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Pogo_Marimo
07/23/17 4:20:37 PM
#48:


Denzien_of_Sega posted...
But can somebody lift/move Thor's hammer in Space?

A better question is, to what point of reference is Thor's Hammer fixed to in space if dropped?
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3rd_Best_Master
07/23/17 4:23:08 PM
#49:


Pogo_Marimo posted...
Denzien_of_Sega posted...
But can somebody lift/move Thor's hammer in Space?

A better question is, to what point of reference is Thor's Hammer fixed to in space if dropped?

Whichever direction Asgard is?
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OctilIery
07/23/17 4:23:36 PM
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GOATTHlEF posted...
He can't. He can stop it in mid air, but he can't manipulate otherwise.
People who HAVE lifted Mjolnir's hammer.

1.) Deadpool (he wasn't aware that it was the real Mjolnir though)
2.) Rogue
3.) Conan the Cimmerian
4.) Black Widow
5.) Storm
6.) Superman
7.) Hulk

Cap has lifted it. Hulk has not.
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