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red sox 777 07/17/17 4:26:43 PM #1: |
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NowItsAngeTime 07/17/17 4:28:00 PM #2: |
what about the middle class
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red sox 777 07/17/17 4:30:14 PM #3: |
We would probably need to increase taxes on the middle class to pay for it.
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Mr Lasastryke 07/17/17 4:36:59 PM #4: |
uh, there shouldn't be welfare at all for the rich? what kind of question is this? welfare exists to make sure poor people don't starve to death. this is like asking "should we have more gay marriage for straight people?"
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red13n 07/17/17 4:39:27 PM #5: |
If they'd like to pay more in taxes and receive the same benefits as the poor...sure.
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EndOfDiscOne 07/17/17 4:40:07 PM #6: |
Mr Lasastryke posted...
uh, there shouldn't be welfare at all for the rich? what kind of question is this? welfare exists to make sure poor people don't starve to death. this is like asking "should we have more gay marriage for straight people?" I think if you get a divorce, all subsequent marriages should be mandatory gay. It would help avoid the overpopulation mess that China has gotten into. --- Ulti was right ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SovietOmega 07/17/17 4:51:43 PM #7: |
I would say it is quite the opposite. We need more 'farewell' for the rich!
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swordz9 07/17/17 5:09:17 PM #8: |
Why should the rich ever have welfare? It's bad enough the government sometimes tries to take it away from poor people who need it. A lot of people have completely wrong thoughts about it too. Welfare isn't something you ever really WANT to be on because it means your life situation is awful and it's not nearly as easy to abuse as people think.
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trdl23 07/17/17 5:14:08 PM #9: |
Mr Lasastryke posted...
uh, there shouldn't be welfare at all for the rich? what kind of question is this? welfare exists to make sure poor people don't starve to death. this is like asking "should we have more gay marriage for straight people?" The joke Your head --- E come vivo? Vivo! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Dantezoid 07/17/17 5:14:23 PM #10: |
Isn't this just asking if we should have a universal basic income in a stealthy way
I mean, unless you're imagining the government adding this welfare to capital gains income or something --- Boring and mundane signature informing you I'm on a Droid Now with more bold! Less italics due to bold. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ProkhorZakharov 07/17/17 5:17:15 PM #11: |
Apparently nobody here has heard the epithet "corporate welfare".
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Mr Lasastryke 07/17/17 5:18:14 PM #12: |
trdl23 posted...
The joke i've seen way more ridiculous red sox polls than this that were actually meant to be taken seriously, so... >_> --- Geothermal terpsichorean ejectamenta ... Copied to Clipboard!
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foolm0r0n 07/17/17 5:20:41 PM #13: |
Apparently no one here understands how society would crumble if JP Morgan or Chrysler went bankrupt
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MariaTaylor 07/17/17 5:40:28 PM #14: |
Dantezoid posted...
Isn't this just asking if we should have a universal basic income in a stealthy way yes and it makes the topic low key pretty entertaining, since the people who argue in favor of universal basic income have replied with a resounding NO so they apparently aren't even in favor of what they are in favor of --- Embodiment of Scarlet Devil http://i.imgur.com/1KnydFa.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Mr Lasastryke 07/17/17 5:41:34 PM #15: |
i don't want universal basic income, for the record.
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foolm0r0n 07/17/17 5:52:38 PM #16: |
How does UBI count as MORE welfare for the rich? Unless it doesn't include removing existing welfares, in which case it's not really UBI.
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MariaTaylor 07/17/17 5:53:59 PM #17: |
foolm0r0n posted...
How does UBI count as MORE welfare for the rich? Unless it doesn't include removing existing welfares, in which case it's not really UBI. UBI does not currently exist add 1$ UBI every rich person is now receiving 1 MORE dollar than they were receiving before --- Embodiment of Scarlet Devil http://i.imgur.com/1KnydFa.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SupremeZero 07/17/17 5:55:43 PM #18: |
MariaTaylor posted...
foolm0r0n posted...How does UBI count as MORE welfare for the rich? Unless it doesn't include removing existing welfares, in which case it's not really UBI. Not if taxes are increased they aren't, which is kind of necessary for a UBI. --- There's always hope for better things in life. But you can't let anything, friend, lover,God himself,be your hope. You have to be your own hope ... Copied to Clipboard!
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trdl23 07/17/17 5:58:23 PM #19: |
foolm0r0n posted...
Apparently no one here understands how society would crumble if JP Morgan or Chrysler went bankrupt I work in the auto industry so I understand this all too well. --- E come vivo? Vivo! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MariaTaylor 07/17/17 5:58:52 PM #20: |
they are absolutely receiving 1 more dollar in welfare than they were receiving before
even if they are paying more in taxes they are also receiving more welfare --- Embodiment of Scarlet Devil http://i.imgur.com/1KnydFa.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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red sox 777 07/17/17 5:59:03 PM #21: |
We don't have to increase taxes on the rich. A nice tax cut for the top bracket and increase on the upper middle class can pay for it.
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MariaTaylor 07/17/17 6:00:35 PM #22: |
red sox 777 posted...
We don't have to increase taxes on the rich. A nice tax cut for the top bracket and increase on the upper middle class can pay for it. better if we just tax the poor that way they don't become too dependent on the new welfare programs --- Embodiment of Scarlet Devil http://i.imgur.com/1KnydFa.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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BowserCuffs 07/17/17 6:36:00 PM #23: |
This is a silly way to frame it. UBI would be welfare for everyone. It might include the rich, but it's not for the rich necessarily.
Especially since they'd be losing more in taxes than they would be gaining in UBI. --- Everyone's best is different. You can't always be the best, but you can always do your best. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Xeybozn 07/17/17 7:15:20 PM #24: |
Fact: Tax cuts on the rich always end up raising more revenue for the government due to economic growth.
Considering this, it is incredibly irresponsible for our government to not lower income taxes to a negative rate for the highest income brackets. Sure, ignorant poor people might call it "welfare for the rich", but they just don't understand the government's purpose. --- Congrats to 2017 Guru champ BKSheikah! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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BowserCuffs 07/17/17 7:32:30 PM #25: |
Xeybozn posted...
Fact: Tax cuts on the rich always end up raising more revenue for the government due to economic growth. http://www.npr.org/sections/itsallpolitics/2015/10/30/452905475/fact-check-do-tax-cuts-grow-the-economy
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foolm0r0n 07/17/17 8:30:22 PM #26: |
MariaTaylor posted...
foolm0r0n posted...How does UBI count as MORE welfare for the rich? Unless it doesn't include removing existing welfares, in which case it's not really UBI. I get that but UBI involves cutting existing welfare unless you're a complete idiot which I guess is common among people discussing UBI --- _foolmo_ 2 + 2 = 4 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MariaTaylor 07/17/17 8:39:04 PM #27: |
so you're calling yourself a complete idiot?
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pjbasis 07/17/17 9:34:53 PM #28: |
I would like UBI for myself
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