Current Events > Gitmo terrorist who killed a U.S. soldier gets $8M and apology from Canada gov't

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The Admiral 07/13/17 2:09:40 PM #1:	https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/the_americas/ex-gitmo-has-received-multimillion-payment-from-canada/2017/07/06/c953e918-62c7-11e7-80a2-8c226031ac3f_story.html A former Guantanamo Bay prisoner who pleaded guilty to killing a U.S. soldier in Afghanistan received an apology and a multimillion-dollar payment from the Canadian government after a court ruling said his rights were abused. A government statement Friday said details of the settlement with Omar Khadr were confidential, but an official familiar with the deal said previously that it was for 10.5 million Canadian dollars ($8 million). A different official confirmed the money had been given to Khadr. Both insisted on speaking anonymously because they were not authorized to discuss the deal publicly. The government and Khadr’s lawyers negotiated the deal last month based on a 2010 Supreme Court of Canada ruling that Canadian officials violated his rights at Guantanamo. “On behalf of the government of Canada, we wish to apologize to Mr. Khadr for any role Canadian officials may have played in relation to his ordeal abroad and any resulting harm,” said a statement from Public Safety Minister Ralph Goodale and Foreign Affairs Minister Chrystia Freeland. He pleaded guilty in 2010 to charges that included murder and was sentenced to eight years plus the time he had already spent in custody. He returned to Canada two years later to serve the remainder of his sentence and was released in May 2015 pending an appeal of his guilty plea, which he said was made under duress. Wow. I won't blame Canadians as a whole for supporting this stupidity, as 71% of them are against it: http://globalnews.ca/news/3589498/omar-khadr-compensation-canadians-poll/ --- - The Admiral <cite>The Admiral posted [p:882847412] in Gitmo terr... [t:75561381]...</cite> <quote>https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/the_americas/ex-gitmo-has-received-multimillion-payment-from-canada/2017/07/06/c953e918-62c7-11e7-80a2-8c226031ac3f_story.html <quote>A former Guantanamo Bay prisoner who pleaded guilty to killing a U.S. soldier in Afghanistan received an apology and a multimillion-dollar payment from the Canadian government after a court ruling said his rights were abused. A government statement Friday said details of the settlement with Omar Khadr were confidential, but an official familiar with the deal said previously that it was for 10.5 million Canadian dollars ($8 million). A different official confirmed the money had been given to Khadr. Both insisted on speaking anonymously because they were not authorized to discuss the deal publicly. The government and Khadr’s lawyers negotiated the deal last month based on a 2010 Supreme Court of Canada ruling that Canadian officials violated his rights at Guantanamo. “On behalf of the government of Canada, we wish to apologize to Mr. Khadr for any role Canadian officials may have played in relation to his ordeal abroad and any resulting harm,” said a statement from Public Safety Minister Ralph Goodale and Foreign Affairs Minister Chrystia Freeland. He pleaded guilty in 2010 to charges that included murder and was sentenced to eight years plus the time he had already spent in custody. He returned to Canada two years later to serve the remainder of his sentence and was released in May 2015 pending an appeal of his guilty plea, which he said was made under duress.</quote> Wow. I won't blame Canadians as a whole for supporting this stupidity, as 71% of them are against it: http://globalnews.ca/news/3589498/omar-khadr-compensation-canadians-poll/</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Webmaster4531 07/13/17 2:11:31 PM #3:	He probably has rich relatives. --- Ad Hominem. <cite>Webmaster4531 posted [p:882847527] in Gitmo terr... [t:75561381]...</cite> <quote>He probably has rich relatives.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkphoenix181 07/13/17 2:11:35 PM #4:	guess some terror organization is about to get millions in funding --- sigless user is me or am I? <cite>darkphoenix181 posted [p:882847532] in Gitmo terr... [t:75561381]...</cite> <quote>guess some terror organization is about to get millions in funding</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Cj_WlLL_VVlN 07/13/17 2:16:20 PM #5:	darkphoenix181 posted... guess some terror organization is about to get millions in funding Can the soldiers family sue him for 8 million dollars before he has the chance? --- Give me your tired, your poor,Your masses yearning to breathe free,The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.Send these, the homeless, tempest tossed, to me. <cite>Cj_WlLL_VVlN posted [p:882847774] in Gitmo terr... [t:75561381]...</cite> <quote><cite>darkphoenix181 posted...</cite> <quote>guess some terror organization is about to get millions in funding</quote> Can the soldiers family sue him for 8 million dollars before he has the chance?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Broseph_Stalin 07/13/17 2:16:59 PM #6:	And this is why you don't torture people. This is why Obama tried to shut that place down. This is why we have a legal system. <cite>Broseph_Stalin posted [p:882847808] in Gitmo terr... [t:75561381]...</cite> <quote>And this is why you don't torture people. This is why Obama tried to shut that place down. This is why we have a legal system.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Doom_Art 07/13/17 2:18:12 PM #7:	Don't get to pick and choose who the Charter applies to. He was a citizen and his rights were violated. --- Not removing this until Mega Man 64 is released on the Wii Virtual Console. Started on: 12/1/2009 http://i.imgur.com/mPvcy.png <cite>Doom_Art posted [p:882847884] in Gitmo terr... [t:75561381]...</cite> <quote>Don't get to pick and choose who the Charter applies to. He was a citizen and his rights were violated.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
gatorsPENSbucs 07/13/17 2:23:06 PM #8:	5 years for murder. What a world. --- http://m.imgur.com/BtD5etN?r https://m.imgur.com/a/jclul http://i.imgtc.com/etNW2apANm.jpg <cite>gatorsPENSbucs posted [p:882848155] in Gitmo terr... [t:75561381]...</cite> <quote>5 years for murder. What a world.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Doom_Art 07/13/17 2:25:27 PM #9:	gatorsPENSbucs posted... 5 years for murder. What a world. Cases like this are basically why child soldier laws exist yo --- Not removing this until Mega Man 64 is released on the Wii Virtual Console. Started on: 12/1/2009 http://i.imgur.com/mPvcy.png <cite>Doom_Art posted [p:882848293] in Gitmo terr... [t:75561381]...</cite> <quote><cite>gatorsPENSbucs posted...</cite> <quote>5 years for murder. What a world.</quote> Cases like this are basically why child soldier laws exist yo</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Funkydog 07/13/17 2:31:13 PM #10:	Maybe America shouldn't torture people and this wouldn't have happened --- http://i.imgur.com/BGbZK.gif <cite>Funkydog posted [p:882848658] in Gitmo terr... [t:75561381]...</cite> <quote>Maybe America shouldn't torture people and this wouldn't have happened</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lorenzo_2003 07/13/17 2:33:13 PM #11:	Yeah, we talked about this a little while ago. I think it was half and half amongst the people who replied, regarding whether or not we agreed with the turn of events. Personally, I think they should have made sure he was dead on the field. But it's Canada paying him, so that's to be expected. --- ... <cite>Lorenzo_2003 posted [p:882848753] in Gitmo terr... [t:75561381]...</cite> <quote>Yeah, we talked about this a little while ago. I think it was half and half amongst the people who replied, regarding whether or not we agreed with the turn of events. Personally, I think they should have made sure he was dead on the field. But it's Canada paying him, so that's to be expected.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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VectorChaos 07/13/17 2:36:23 PM #13:	Imagine paying a literal enemy combatant for any reason. --- PSN VectorChaos http://i.imgur.com/ftMERkZ.jpg XBL Vector Chaos http://i.imgur.com/10hWZ95.png http://i.imgur.com/MZMOLx0.jpg http://i.imgur.com/R2jRl8F.jpg <cite>VectorChaos posted [p:882848934] in Gitmo terr... [t:75561381]...</cite> <quote>Imagine paying a literal enemy combatant for any reason.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The Admiral 07/13/17 2:37:21 PM #14:	GOATTHlEF posted... Funkydog posted... Maybe America shouldn't torture people and this wouldn't have happened This guy wasn't tortured. --- - The Admiral <cite>The Admiral posted [p:882848985] in Gitmo terr... [t:75561381]...</cite> <quote><cite>GOATTHlEF posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Funkydog posted...</cite> <quote>Maybe America shouldn't torture people and this wouldn't have happened</quote></quote> This guy wasn't tortured.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Doom_Art 07/13/17 2:38:50 PM #15:	Lorenzo_2003 posted... Personally, I think they should have made sure he was dead on the field. But it's Canada paying him, so that's to be expected. elaborate? The Admiral posted... This guy wasn't tortured. Sleep deprivation is a form of torture, Addy lol I called you "Mal" oops --- Not removing this until Mega Man 64 is released on the Wii Virtual Console. Started on: 12/1/2009 http://i.imgur.com/mPvcy.png <cite>Doom_Art posted [p:882849080] in Gitmo terr... [t:75561381]...</cite> <quote><cite>Lorenzo_2003 posted...</cite> <quote>Personally, I think they should have made sure he was dead on the field. But it's Canada paying him, so that's to be expected.</quote> elaborate? <cite>The Admiral posted...</cite> <quote>This guy wasn't tortured. </quote> Sleep deprivation is a form of torture, Addy lol I called you "Mal" oops</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sir Will 07/13/17 2:39:01 PM #16:	darkphoenix181 posted... guess some terror organization is about to get millions in funding No. Cj_WlLL_VVlN posted... Can the soldiers family sue him for 8 million dollars before he has the chance? They're trying. I mean, they had a shame of a trial in the US that awarded them like 130+ million but that doesn't apply to our country. They're going through our courts to try and get the money though. Just today they applied to have his assets frozen while they try to sue him here and it was denied. Funkydog posted... Maybe America shouldn't torture people and this wouldn't have happened Pretty much, though for this ruling specifically it was because Canadian officials were complicit with the torture. The Admiral posted... This guy wasn't tortured. Yes he was and the Supreme Court says so. --- River Song: Well, I was off to this gay gypsy bar mitzvah for the disabled when I thought 'Gosh, the Third Reich's a bit rubbish, I think i'll kill the Fuhrer' <cite>Sir Will posted [p:882849093] in Gitmo terr... [t:75561381]...</cite> <quote><cite>darkphoenix181 posted...</cite> <quote>guess some terror organization is about to get millions in funding</quote> No. <cite>Cj_WlLL_VVlN posted...</cite> <quote>Can the soldiers family sue him for 8 million dollars before he has the chance?</quote> They're trying. I mean, they had a shame of a trial in the US that awarded them like 130+ million but that doesn't apply to our country. They're going through our courts to try and get the money though. Just today they applied to have his assets frozen while they try to sue him here and it was denied. <cite>Funkydog posted...</cite> <quote>Maybe America shouldn't torture people and this wouldn't have happened</quote> Pretty much, though for this ruling specifically it was because Canadian officials were complicit with the torture. <cite>The Admiral posted...</cite> <quote>This guy wasn't tortured.</quote> Yes he was and the Supreme Court says so.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FrisbeeDude 07/13/17 2:39:22 PM #17:	The Admiral posted... GOATTHlEF posted... Funkydog posted... Maybe America shouldn't torture people and this wouldn't have happened This guy wasn't tortured. What constitutes torture to you? --- No one gets in the way of my frisbee games! NO ONE! <cite>FrisbeeDude posted [p:882849120] in Gitmo terr... [t:75561381]...</cite> <quote><cite>The Admiral posted...</cite> <quote><cite>GOATTHlEF posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Funkydog posted...</cite> <quote>Maybe America shouldn't torture people and this wouldn't have happened</quote></quote> This guy wasn't tortured.</quote> What constitutes torture to you?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
0TiamaT0 07/13/17 2:40:15 PM #18:	GOATTHlEF posted... Funkydog posted... Maybe America shouldn't torture people and this wouldn't have happened Even if he was, he killed a US Soldier. He would have deserved any torture they gave him. --- Myths, Lies and complete stupidity barely scratch the surface of your ignorance. <cite>0TiamaT0 posted [p:882849172] in Gitmo terr... [t:75561381]...</cite> <quote><cite>GOATTHlEF posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Funkydog posted...</cite> <quote>Maybe America shouldn't torture people and this wouldn't have happened</quote></quote> Even if he was, he killed a US Soldier. He would have deserved any torture they gave him.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lorenzo_2003 07/13/17 2:40:15 PM #19:	The Admiral posted... This guy wasn't tortured. Sleep deprivation is what I remember. That can be torture. I mean I'd rather be tortured that way, instead of other ways, but still. Anyway, like I said, they should have killed him on the field instead. --- ... <cite>Lorenzo_2003 posted [p:882849173] in Gitmo terr... [t:75561381]...</cite> <quote><cite>The Admiral posted...</cite> <quote> This guy wasn't tortured.</quote> Sleep deprivation is what I remember. That can be torture. I mean I'd rather be tortured that way, instead of other ways, but still. Anyway, like I said, they should have killed him on the field instead.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DragonGirlYuki 07/13/17 2:40:34 PM #20:	I applaud Trudeau for his stewardship of the public purse and not passing the buck to the courts. If he was selfish he could have avoided heat and cost taxpayers double the settlement by dragging it through the courts. --- ~Yuki~ <cite>DragonGirlYuki posted [p:882849195] in Gitmo terr... [t:75561381]...</cite> <quote>I applaud Trudeau for his stewardship of the public purse and not passing the buck to the courts. If he was selfish he could have avoided heat and cost taxpayers double the settlement by dragging it through the courts.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnfairRepresent 07/13/17 2:41:26 PM #21:	There's a lot of gray surrounding this case. The "murder" was alleged. They say he threw a grenade but couldn't prove it, sent him to Guantanamo Bay where he was "interrogated" allegedly tortured (He was under 18 at the time) and was told he would never be allowed to leave until he confessed. Then the second he got back to Canada he renouced the confession and kicked up a storm and has done for years. It's a big issue of rights violation. I still think there's an argument to be made about what he deserves, but people do themselves no favors when they say " terrorist who killed a U.S. solier gets given MILLIONS!" They're just as dumb and kool-aid drinking as the "Zimmerman was a cop who shot Trayvon Martin in the back of the head because he's so racist!" guys. Life isn't as simple a that, you're just looking for reasons to simplify things to justify being angry --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair. https://imgtc.com/i/14JHfrt.jpg <cite>UnfairRepresent posted [p:882849248] in Gitmo terr... [t:75561381]...</cite> <quote>There's a lot of gray surrounding this case. The "murder" was alleged. They say he threw a grenade but couldn't prove it, sent him to Guantanamo Bay where he was "interrogated" allegedly tortured (He was under 18 at the time) and was told he would never be allowed to leave until he confessed. Then the second he got back to Canada he renouced the confession and kicked up a storm and has done for years. It's a big issue of rights violation. I still think there's an argument to be made about what he deserves, but people do themselves no favors when they say " terrorist who killed a U.S. solier gets given MILLIONS!" They're just as dumb and kool-aid drinking as the "Zimmerman was a cop who shot Trayvon Martin in the back of the head because he's so racist!" guys. Life isn't as simple a that, you're just looking for reasons to simplify things to justify being angry</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sir Will 07/13/17 2:42:48 PM #22:	0TiamaT0 posted... Even if he was, he killed a US Soldier. He would have deserved any torture they gave him. Nope. --- River Song: Well, I was off to this gay gypsy bar mitzvah for the disabled when I thought 'Gosh, the Third Reich's a bit rubbish, I think i'll kill the Fuhrer' <cite>Sir Will posted [p:882849342] in Gitmo terr... [t:75561381]...</cite> <quote><cite>0TiamaT0 posted...</cite> <quote>Even if he was, he killed a US Soldier. He would have deserved any torture they gave him.</quote> Nope.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Duncanwii 07/13/17 2:43:01 PM #23:	0TiamaT0 posted... GOATTHlEF posted... Funkydog posted... Maybe America shouldn't torture people and this wouldn't have happened Even if he was, he killed a US Soldier. He would have deserved any torture they gave him. No. No one deserves torture. No one. Period. --- This is my year of Pokemon! Pokemon games I'm playing: Fire Red and Pearl. <cite>Duncanwii posted [p:882849356] in Gitmo terr... [t:75561381]...</cite> <quote><cite>0TiamaT0 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>GOATTHlEF posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Funkydog posted...</cite> <quote>Maybe America shouldn't torture people and this wouldn't have happened</quote></quote> Even if he was, he killed a US Soldier. He would have deserved any torture they gave him.</quote> No. No one deserves torture. No one. Period.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Doom_Art 07/13/17 2:43:16 PM #24:	0TiamaT0 posted... Even if he was, he killed a US Soldier. He would have deserved any torture they gave him. Torture is illegal Doom_Art posted... Don't get to pick and choose who the Charter applies to. DragonGirlYuki posted... I applaud Trudeau for his stewardship of the public purse and not passing the buck to the courts. If he was selfish he could have avoided heat and cost taxpayers double the settlement by dragging it through the courts. It needed to end. It's been going on for nearly 2 decades. The Supreme Court ruled in his favor. It's time to makes amends and put it to rest. --- Not removing this until Mega Man 64 is released on the Wii Virtual Console. Started on: 12/1/2009 http://i.imgur.com/mPvcy.png <cite>Doom_Art posted [p:882849376] in Gitmo terr... [t:75561381]...</cite> <quote><cite>0TiamaT0 posted...</cite> <quote>Even if he was, he killed a US Soldier. He would have deserved any torture they gave him. </quote> Torture is illegal <cite>Doom_Art posted...</cite> <quote>Don't get to pick and choose who the Charter applies to. </quote> <cite>DragonGirlYuki posted...</cite> <quote>I applaud Trudeau for his stewardship of the public purse and not passing the buck to the courts. If he was selfish he could have avoided heat and cost taxpayers double the settlement by dragging it through the courts. </quote> It needed to end. It's been going on for nearly 2 decades. The Supreme Court ruled in his favor. It's time to makes amends and put it to rest.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sputnik1337 07/13/17 2:43:24 PM #25:	DragonGirlYuki posted... I applaud Trudeau for his stewardship of the public purse and not passing the buck to the courts. If he was selfish he could have avoided heat and cost taxpayers double the settlement by dragging it through the courts. We already spent like $100m trying to fight this in the courts --- a <cite>Sputnik1337 posted [p:882849386] in Gitmo terr... [t:75561381]...</cite> <quote><cite>DragonGirlYuki posted...</cite> <quote>I applaud Trudeau for his stewardship of the public purse and not passing the buck to the courts. If he was selfish he could have avoided heat and cost taxpayers double the settlement by dragging it through the courts.</quote> We already spent like $100m trying to fight this in the courts</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Broseph_Stalin 07/13/17 2:45:04 PM #26:	The Admiral posted... This guy wasn't tortured. Just stop before you get warned again dude. <cite>Broseph_Stalin posted [p:882849471] in Gitmo terr... [t:75561381]...</cite> <quote><cite>The Admiral posted...</cite> <quote>This guy wasn't tortured. </quote> Just stop before you get warned again dude.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DragonGirlYuki 07/13/17 2:50:47 PM #27:	And by settling the government cut their losses which is great. --- ~Yuki~ <cite>DragonGirlYuki posted [p:882849814] in Gitmo terr... [t:75561381]...</cite> <quote>And by settling the government cut their losses which is great.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The Admiral 07/13/17 2:51:28 PM #28:	Broseph_Stalin posted... The Admiral posted... This guy wasn't tortured. Just stop before you get warned again dude. Just use the ignore list if you're too sensitive for this kind of discussion. You bitch like this all the time. --- - The Admiral <cite>The Admiral posted [p:882849859] in Gitmo terr... [t:75561381]...</cite> <quote><cite>Broseph_Stalin posted...</cite> <quote><cite>The Admiral posted...</cite> <quote>This guy wasn't tortured. </quote> Just stop before you get warned again dude.</quote> Just use the ignore list if you're too sensitive for this kind of discussion. You bitch like this all the time.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sir Will 07/13/17 2:52:18 PM #29:	The Admiral posted... Just use the ignore list if you're too sensitive for this kind of discussion. You bitch like this all the time. You're still wrong. --- River Song: Well, I was off to this gay gypsy bar mitzvah for the disabled when I thought 'Gosh, the Third Reich's a bit rubbish, I think i'll kill the Fuhrer' <cite>Sir Will posted [p:882849920] in Gitmo terr... [t:75561381]...</cite> <quote><cite>The Admiral posted...</cite> <quote>Just use the ignore list if you're too sensitive for this kind of discussion. You bitch like this all the time.</quote> You're still wrong.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Doom_Art 07/13/17 2:52:24 PM #30:	The Admiral posted... Just use the ignore list if you're too sensitive for this kind of discussion. You bitch like this all the time. Sleep deprivation is torture, Addy --- Not removing this until Mega Man 64 is released on the Wii Virtual Console. Started on: 12/1/2009 http://i.imgur.com/mPvcy.png <cite>Doom_Art posted [p:882849926] in Gitmo terr... [t:75561381]...</cite> <quote><cite>The Admiral posted...</cite> <quote>Just use the ignore list if you're too sensitive for this kind of discussion. You bitch like this all the time. </quote> Sleep deprivation is torture, Addy</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Antifar 07/13/17 2:53:26 PM #31:	If you have a charter on human rights, it has to apply to everyone, or else it's not really about human rights. --- kin to all that throbs <cite>Antifar posted [p:882849995] in Gitmo terr... [t:75561381]...</cite> <quote>If you have a charter on human rights, it has to apply to everyone, or else it's not really about human rights.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Doom_Art 07/13/17 2:55:10 PM #32:	Antifar posted... If you have a charter on human rights, it has to apply to everyone, or else it's not really about human rights. Yes, picking and choosing who rights apply to and when kinda undermines the entire purpose. --- Not removing this until Mega Man 64 is released on the Wii Virtual Console. Started on: 12/1/2009 http://i.imgur.com/mPvcy.png <cite>Doom_Art posted [p:882850088] in Gitmo terr... [t:75561381]...</cite> <quote><cite>Antifar posted...</cite> <quote>If you have a charter on human rights, it has to apply to everyone, or else it's not really about human rights.</quote> Yes, picking and choosing who rights apply to and when kinda undermines the entire purpose.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Broseph_Stalin 07/13/17 2:56:29 PM #33:	The Admiral posted... You bitch like this all the time. Man self-awareness would do you wonders. And I'm just giving you advice here. You're warned a lot. <cite>Broseph_Stalin posted [p:882850165] in Gitmo terr... [t:75561381]...</cite> <quote><cite>The Admiral posted...</cite> <quote> You bitch like this all the time.</quote> Man self-awareness would do you wonders. And I'm just giving you advice here. You're warned a lot.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
mario2000 07/13/17 2:57:32 PM #34:	i thought washington post was one of those fayk nooz sites that people like tc hate why is he posting it --- Arrrr the SS Goku, Mighty fine boat... -fatmatt Hope Frieza doesn't chuck an Iceberg at the Goku, otherwise it's all over. -Nekoslash <cite>mario2000 posted [p:882850225] in Gitmo terr... [t:75561381]...</cite> <quote>i thought washington post was one of those fayk nooz sites that people like tc hate why is he posting it</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Lorenzo_2003 07/13/17 3:00:00 PM #36:	Doom_Art posted... Lorenzo_2003 posted... Personally, I think they should have made sure he was dead on the field. But it's Canada paying him, so that's to be expected. elaborate? Which part? He was an enemy combatant. I'm not even considering the fact that he pleaded guilty to killing the US soldier. He should have been killed on the field because he took up arms and engaged in a firefight on behalf of Al-Qaeda. I do not agree with torture, though. Regarding the Canada comment, that one should be obvious. In Canada, for example, you can sue and win against a comedian, if they hurt your feelings. Yes, that's actually happened, at least twice in the last four years. It does not surprise me one bit that Canadians would not only pay a terrorist but that they would also apologize to him. But, it's Canada and it's Canadian tax money, so whatever. --- ... <cite>Lorenzo_2003 posted [p:882850395] in Gitmo terr... [t:75561381]...</cite> <quote><cite>Doom_Art posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Lorenzo_2003 posted...</cite> <quote>Personally, I think they should have made sure he was dead on the field. But it's Canada paying him, so that's to be expected.</quote> elaborate? </quote> Which part? He was an enemy combatant. I'm not even considering the fact that he pleaded guilty to killing the US soldier. He should have been killed on the field because he took up arms and engaged in a firefight on behalf of Al-Qaeda. I do not agree with torture, though. Regarding the Canada comment, that one should be obvious. In Canada, for example, you can sue and win against a comedian, if they hurt your feelings. Yes, that's actually happened, at least twice in the last four years. It does not surprise me one bit that Canadians would not only pay a terrorist but that they would also apologize to him. But, it's Canada and it's Canadian tax money, so whatever.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The Admiral 07/13/17 3:02:16 PM #37:	Lorenzo_2003 posted... Doom_Art posted... Lorenzo_2003 posted... Personally, I think they should have made sure he was dead on the field. But it's Canada paying him, so that's to be expected. elaborate? Which part? He was an enemy combatant. I'm not even considering the fact that he pleaded guilty to killing the US soldier. He should have been killed on the field because he took up arms and engaged in a firefight on behalf of Al-Qaeda. I do not agree with torture, though. Regarding the Canada comment, that one should be obvious. In Canada, for example, you can sue and win against a comedian, if they hurt your feelings. Yes, that's actually happened, at least twice in the last four years. It does not surprise me one bit that Canadians would not only pay a terrorist but that they would also apologize to him. But, it's Canada and it's Canadian tax money, so whatever. And even the vast majority of Canadian citizens are disgusted by this. --- - The Admiral <cite>The Admiral posted [p:882850499] in Gitmo terr... [t:75561381]...</cite> <quote><cite>Lorenzo_2003 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Doom_Art posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Lorenzo_2003 posted...</cite> <quote>Personally, I think they should have made sure he was dead on the field. But it's Canada paying him, so that's to be expected.</quote> elaborate? </quote> Which part? He was an enemy combatant. I'm not even considering the fact that he pleaded guilty to killing the US soldier. He should have been killed on the field because he took up arms and engaged in a firefight on behalf of Al-Qaeda. I do not agree with torture, though. Regarding the Canada comment, that one should be obvious. In Canada, for example, you can sue and win against a comedian, if they hurt your feelings. Yes, that's actually happened, at least twice in the last four years. It does not surprise me one bit that Canadians would not only pay a terrorist but that they would also apologize to him. But, it's Canada and it's Canadian tax money, so whatever.</quote> And even the vast majority of Canadian citizens are disgusted by this.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Broseph_Stalin 07/13/17 3:03:56 PM #38:	The Admiral posted... And even the vast majority of Canadian citizens are disgusted by this. Our governments were founded on liberal reason, not conservative emotion. What people feel is irrelevant. <cite>Broseph_Stalin posted [p:882850586] in Gitmo terr... [t:75561381]...</cite> <quote><cite>The Admiral posted...</cite> <quote>And even the vast majority of Canadian citizens are disgusted by this.</quote> Our governments were founded on liberal reason, not conservative emotion. What people feel is irrelevant.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sir Will 07/13/17 3:04:24 PM #39:	Lorenzo_2003 posted... It does not surprise me one bit that Canadians would not only pay a terrorist but that they would also apologize to him. But, it's Canada and it's Canadian tax money, so whatever. Human. Rights. Violations. The Admiral posted... And even the vast majority of Canadian citizens are disgusted by this. Irrelevant to the law. Now granted, the case probably wasn't as hopeless as they say. But Khadr did have a very good chance of winning based on the previous SC ruling. How much would he have gotten? Unknown. Probably not the 20 million asked for and maybe not the 10.5 he got. I'm not overly happy with the amount but his rights WERE violated. --- River Song: Well, I was off to this gay gypsy bar mitzvah for the disabled when I thought 'Gosh, the Third Reich's a bit rubbish, I think i'll kill the Fuhrer' <cite>Sir Will posted [p:882850614] in Gitmo terr... [t:75561381]...</cite> <quote><cite>Lorenzo_2003 posted...</cite> <quote>It does not surprise me one bit that Canadians would not only pay a terrorist but that they would also apologize to him. But, it's Canada and it's Canadian tax money, so whatever.</quote> Human. Rights. Violations. <cite>The Admiral posted...</cite> <quote>And even the vast majority of Canadian citizens are disgusted by this.</quote> Irrelevant to the law. Now granted, the case probably wasn't as hopeless as they say. But Khadr did have a very good chance of winning based on the previous SC ruling. How much would he have gotten? Unknown. Probably not the 20 million asked for and maybe not the 10.5 he got. I'm not overly happy with the amount but his rights WERE violated.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
0TiamaT0 07/13/17 3:04:38 PM #40:	@Doom_Art So is murder. --- Myths, Lies and complete stupidity barely scratch the surface of your ignorance. <cite>0TiamaT0 posted [p:882850629] in Gitmo terr... [t:75561381]...</cite> <quote>@Doom_Art So is murder.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Antifar 07/13/17 3:04:44 PM #41:	The Admiral posted... And even the vast majority of Canadian citizens are disgusted by this. Do you think justice should be meted out via public opinion polls? --- kin to all that throbs <cite>Antifar posted [p:882850637] in Gitmo terr... [t:75561381]...</cite> <quote><cite>The Admiral posted...</cite> <quote>And even the vast majority of Canadian citizens are disgusted by this. </quote> Do you think justice should be meted out via public opinion polls?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Antifar 07/13/17 3:05:53 PM #42:	0TiamaT0 posted... @Doom_Art So is murder. Even murderers are protected by things like the Constitution and Canada's charter here. --- kin to all that throbs <cite>Antifar posted [p:882850697] in Gitmo terr... [t:75561381]...</cite> <quote><cite>0TiamaT0 posted...</cite> <quote>@Doom_Art So is murder.</quote> Even murderers are protected by things like the Constitution and Canada's charter here.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Doom_Art 07/13/17 3:06:15 PM #43:	0TiamaT0 posted... @Doom_Art So is murder. And? --- Not removing this until Mega Man 64 is released on the Wii Virtual Console. Started on: 12/1/2009 http://i.imgur.com/mPvcy.png <cite>Doom_Art posted [p:882850714] in Gitmo terr... [t:75561381]...</cite> <quote><cite>0TiamaT0 posted...</cite> <quote>@Doom_Art So is murder.</quote> And?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DragonGirlYuki 07/13/17 3:06:55 PM #44:	I thought fiscal stewardship is a tenant of conservative ideology. By settling the government shows that they care about using public money wisely rather than for personal gain. --- ~Yuki~ <cite>DragonGirlYuki posted [p:882850754] in Gitmo terr... [t:75561381]...</cite> <quote>I thought fiscal stewardship is a tenant of conservative ideology. By settling the government shows that they care about using public money wisely rather than for personal gain.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The Admiral 07/13/17 3:07:20 PM #45:	Antifar posted... The Admiral posted... And even the vast majority of Canadian citizens are disgusted by this. Do you think justice should be meted out via public opinion polls? Never said that. His post was addressing Canadian sentiment. --- - The Admiral <cite>The Admiral posted [p:882850774] in Gitmo terr... [t:75561381]...</cite> <quote><cite>Antifar posted...</cite> <quote><cite>The Admiral posted...</cite> <quote>And even the vast majority of Canadian citizens are disgusted by this. </quote> Do you think justice should be meted out via public opinion polls?</quote> Never said that. His post was addressing Canadian sentiment.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnfairRepresent 07/13/17 3:07:36 PM #46:	The Admiral posted... And even the vast majority of Canadian citizens are disgusted by this. Largely because they keep falling for the same clickbait you do. But the sad part is you do it intentionally. 0TiamaT0 posted... @Doom_Art So is murder. Which for the record we are still not certain he even commited. And if he did was under 18 when he did it. --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair. https://imgtc.com/i/14JHfrt.jpg <cite>UnfairRepresent posted [p:882850788] in Gitmo terr... [t:75561381]...</cite> <quote><cite>The Admiral posted...</cite> <quote> And even the vast majority of Canadian citizens are disgusted by this.</quote> Largely because they keep falling for the same clickbait you do. But the sad part is you do it intentionally. <cite>0TiamaT0 posted...</cite> <quote>@Doom_Art So is murder.</quote> Which for the record we are still not certain he even commited. And if he did was under 18 when he did it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The Admiral 07/13/17 3:09:22 PM #47:	UnfairRepresent posted... Largely because they keep falling for the same clickbait you do. But the sad part is you do it intentionally. Yes, "clickbait" to not want to see terrorists who murder U.S. soldiers get an apology and millions of dollars. There truly are three guarantees in life: death, taxes, and UnfairRepresent arguments always being asinine --- - The Admiral <cite>The Admiral posted [p:882850900] in Gitmo terr... [t:75561381]...</cite> <quote><cite>UnfairRepresent posted...</cite> <quote>Largely because they keep falling for the same clickbait you do. But the sad part is you do it intentionally.</quote> Yes, "clickbait" to not want to see terrorists who murder U.S. soldiers get an apology and millions of dollars. There truly are three guarantees in life: death, taxes, and UnfairRepresent arguments always being asinine</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
IfGodCouldDie 07/13/17 3:09:53 PM #48:	0TiamaT0 posted... GOATTHlEF posted... Funkydog posted... Maybe America shouldn't torture people and this wouldn't have happened Even if he was, he killed a US Soldier. He would have deserved any torture they gave him. Actually, combat reports prior to his stay in Gitmo and American soliders that were there back up the fact that he wasn't even the one that threw the grenade. Also he only plead guilty because he was told that was the only way he would be transferred to Canada and receive a trial. --- Mind post. XBL:Cyanide Sucker PSN:Paters1 IGN:SuperPattyCakes <cite>IfGodCouldDie posted [p:882850934] in Gitmo terr... [t:75561381]...</cite> <quote><cite>0TiamaT0 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>GOATTHlEF posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Funkydog posted...</cite> <quote>Maybe America shouldn't torture people and this wouldn't have happened</quote></quote> Even if he was, he killed a US Soldier. He would have deserved any torture they gave him.</quote> Actually, combat reports prior to his stay in Gitmo and American soliders that were there back up the fact that he wasn't even the one that threw the grenade. Also he only plead guilty because he was told that was the only way he would be transferred to Canada and receive a trial.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sir Will 07/13/17 3:10:19 PM #49:	UnfairRepresent posted... Largely because they keep falling for the same clickbait you do. That certainly doesn't help. I think it was found that the more people knew of the situation the more they tended to sympathize. --- River Song: Well, I was off to this gay gypsy bar mitzvah for the disabled when I thought 'Gosh, the Third Reich's a bit rubbish, I think i'll kill the Fuhrer' <cite>Sir Will posted [p:882850959] in Gitmo terr... [t:75561381]...</cite> <quote><cite>UnfairRepresent posted...</cite> <quote>Largely because they keep falling for the same clickbait you do.</quote> That certainly doesn't help. I think it was found that the more people knew of the situation the more they tended to sympathize.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Antifar 07/13/17 3:10:38 PM #50:	If they wanted to not pay a fine, all they had to do was follow the law. --- kin to all that throbs <cite>Antifar posted [p:882850979] in Gitmo terr... [t:75561381]...</cite> <quote>If they wanted to not pay a fine, all they had to do was follow the law.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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