Current Events > Was GoldenEye 007 on N64 over-rated?

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Nobody cares for it anymore do they?
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It's a bad game
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remote mines on facility
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No it wasn't
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At this point in time, the answer is blatantly yes.
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Back when it was New? Fuck no. That game was amazing. And anyone that says otherwise didn't play it back then.
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It was groundbreaking but it aged like mayonaise.
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Uh no, that game was one of a kind back in the 90's. And it has aged just fine. Guards still react to gunfire, for instance.
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Having had a chance to play it recently, I'm guessing it must've been amazing back in 1997. Today, it's a decent game, if you can overcome the blurry visuals, clunky controls, poor framerate, and on some levels, an endless army constantly disrupting your (frantic) search for an elusive mission objective.
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it was amazing. it's still fun but doesn't hold up to any of the new shooters since it's so primitive.

What made Goldeneye popular and influential was that it had split screen multiplayer on a console. Up until then playing other people in shooters involved multiple computers and a LAN party. Goldeneye made multiplayer FPS accessible for the average gamer. It is one of the main reasons FPSs are so popular today.

That said, the game mechanics weren't great and the controls were bad, so it didn't hold up so well.
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GODTIER posted...

remote mines on facility

Proximity mines on complex

The controls were fine. And the mechanics were great, other than auto-aim put you past your target a lot.
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Here we go again. Just because a game was once popular and still liked today, it must be over-rated.
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Not for the time. It'll always be remembered for being ground breaking, but I don't think anyone really makes the case that it holds up well these days.
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@Thompson how have you eluded me until now
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GODTIER posted...

remote mines on facility

I liked stacking the mines until the earlier ones vanished so you had mines floating in the air
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Goldeneye was the most innovative FPS of the day. Invented polygonal guns for the first person view (unlike the Doom sprite guns of PC games), invented spawn camping (love it or hate it), pioneered local FPS multiplayer, and evolved the mission structure of the FPS genre by allowing for complex mission objectives -- paving the way for the modern FPS.
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What I enjoyed about the game, was that the objectives were different in each difficulty. On the easiest, it was pretty much "get to the end of the level" and in the hardest you had a load of things to do first to get there.
I don't remember any other game doing that, no matter the genre.
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The only thing about that game that didn't stand the test of time were the controls. Can't do FPS movement with one analog stick and 4 buttons
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@thompsontalker7

I lurk a lot.
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Not at all, it deserved all the hype it got.
A few people still play this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-E4XtdEnWx4

And it ain't too bad.
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Delta_Force posted...

Not at all, it deserved all the hype it got.
A few people still play this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-E4XtdEnWx4

And it ain't too bad.

Holy shit! Thanks for this!
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no in fact it still has amazing features that games today dont use like location damage on enemies and shooting guns out of their hands.
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_MorningStar posted...

Back when it was New? Fuck no. That game was amazing. And anyone that says otherwise didn't play it back then.

This. I played it once with friends and wanted to buy an N64 for it.
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It hasn't aged well, but it was great back then. There is still fun to be had with it.

I do find it funny how much CE shits on Goldeneye but still hails Morrowind as being perfectly fine, though.
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KillerSlaw posted...

It hasn't aged well, but it was great back then. There is still fun to be had with it.

I do find it funny how much CE shits on Goldeneye but still hails Morrowind as being perfectly fine, though.

The five year difference in release and the different genres are a good enough explanation
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_MorningStar posted...

Back when it was New? Fuck no. That game was amazing. And anyone that says otherwise didn't play it back then.

Chicken posted...

It was groundbreaking but it aged like mayonaise.

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ACHEEKSMALLOY posted...

no in fact it still has amazing features that games today dont use like location damage on enemies and shooting guns out of their hands.

I loved this in MGS 2.
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I replayed it recently on my N64. It was trash!!!
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Ammonitida posted...

Invented polygonal guns for the first person view

Turok did it first

Questions like this are blatantly ignorant of how these games were received and shaped the industry. And it's a stupidly generic criticism to levy on something popular. Burden of proof falls on the critic. So tell us why you'd even think to ask a question like this rather than expect people to defend something that's already more than spoken for itself.

Troll.
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Bad opinion is bad. It's an all time classic
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When I was in college there were two or three games going on in the dorms at any given time. It was a great entertainment investment when everybody was typically broke.
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This is a stupid topic. The game was revolutionary at the time, and at its peak was one of the best multiplayer experiencs available.

Sure, it's aged like shit. Hell it may have aged worse than any classic out there, but you can say that about a ton of N64/PSX games. That doesn't take away from the fact the game is a classic.
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GoldenEye was fantastic when it came out. I don't regret all those hours I spent playing it with my friends. It's not as good as the current top shooters, but it's a silly comparison because of the 20 year gap.
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MasterMacLeod posted...

Ammonitida posted...

Invented polygonal guns for the first person view

Turok did it first

And Quake predated Turok.
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Truth be told, I always felt Perfect Dark was far superior. Like Goldeneye was 86/100, PD was 97/100.
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My eyes would bleed if I tried playing it today but it was amazing for the time
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It's my all-time favorite game.
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For its time? No. If you go and play it now you will scream yes but it was amazing back in the day.
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It was amazing back then and it still is a lot of fun
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Samaellives91 posted...

Truth be told, I always felt Perfect Dark was far superior. Like Goldeneye was 86/100, PD was 97/100.

Came out too late in N64 lifecycle.
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No. The only thing wrong with it in a modern sense are the controls. Luckily, they can be sort of fix by using two controllers (that's not a joke).
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There was lots of subtle little things that made multiplayer fun including level and weapon design. I remember skeet-shooting competitions with my buddies involving the Grenade Launcher and scoped weapons. Or proximity mines on instant-death mode. Even better, slappers only on instant-death mode. Good times.
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Goldeneye has a great singleplayer and multiplayer. Anyone who hates it is literally 11 years old.
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Avid Goldeneye player here...

by Avid, I had 100%'d everything, and 3 of my friends and I had spent at least 500 hours playing Multiplayer.

So, over-rated at the time? No.

There was so much it introduced, and the multi-player brought forth and entire generation of couch gaming in which the closest you could get were 2-5 games on the SNES in America (after getting the multi-tap and convincing your friends Secret of Mana wasn't a nerd game).

It had a big influence on the future of gaming.

But today? Its awful. Even nostalgia doesn't make it enjoyable...

The fan made Goldeneye on PC though, that is the sex!

If you want some quick info on Goldeneye's influence, check out Evil Tim's in depth look at the design and coding of Goldeneye, where he goes into detail about "did you know" stuff about at the game.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FzvY0cLKruQ