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Cj_WlLL_VVlN
06/28/17 11:16:29 AM
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With a more liberal more expensive program do you think the average republican support trumpcare?

Like is it actually principle or f is it Obamas name and an us vs them belief.
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Medz2017
06/28/17 11:17:20 AM
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Republicant care
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Darkman124
06/28/17 11:17:21 AM
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but a more liberal version would never be supported. principal goal in the replacement is to remove the obamacare taxes
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creativerealms
06/28/17 11:18:54 AM
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If Trump replaced Obamacare with itself and claimed it was a new program everyone who hates the ACA would love the new one.
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Balrog0
06/28/17 11:20:17 AM
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Darkman124 posted...
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but a more liberal version would never be supported. principal goal in the replacement is to remove the obamacare taxes


since they're doing this through the reconciliation process, they really can't do much more than fiddle with the numbers. they're already running up against the rules for adding language to punish people for lapses in coverage
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meralonne
06/28/17 11:20:20 AM
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Neither political party is interested in compromise. Both will do whatever it takes to thumb their nose at the opposition.

The only thing the parties can agree on is "Fuck the country as long as I can get a dig in on the other guy."
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Balrog0
06/28/17 11:20:31 AM
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to be fair

although, I mean, you know you can always try to pass an actual bill
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Holy_Cloud105
06/28/17 11:21:07 AM
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Most people don't even know Obamacare is actually called the ACA. If you replaced it with itself and just labeled it "Trumpcare" they'd probably support it.
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Darkman124
06/28/17 11:28:23 AM
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Balrog0 posted...
Darkman124 posted...
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but a more liberal version would never be supported. principal goal in the replacement is to remove the obamacare taxes


since they're doing this through the reconciliation process, they really can't do much more than fiddle with the numbers. they're already running up against the rules for adding language to punish people for lapses in coverage


theoretically they could also institute new taxes and greatly increase coverage

theoretically the second dems regain control with a 51 seat majority they could also institute a huge number of new taxes and replace the whole thing with single payer so long as everything is paid for

reconciliation is kind of a bullshit tool to ignore filibusters since you can just pack a bill with as much material as possible until it's budget neutral
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Webmaster4531
06/28/17 11:30:31 AM
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All Obamacare needs is a cost saving measure. A website is not an alternative to the public option.
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Zembaphobia
06/28/17 11:31:40 AM
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a majority of dems and republicans alike favor single payer healthcare, so it would make both parties happy
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Anarchy_Juiblex
06/28/17 11:32:19 AM
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meralonne posted...
Neither political party . . .


Code for, "Republicans are dead to rights on this but I'm going to pretend it's rampant on both sides."
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John_Galt
06/28/17 11:34:10 AM
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Zembaphobia posted...
a majority of dems and republicans alike favor single payer healthcare

They do?
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Zembaphobia
06/28/17 11:36:16 AM
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John_Galt posted...
Zembaphobia posted...
a majority of dems and republicans alike favor single payer healthcare

They do?

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Balrog0
06/28/17 11:38:53 AM
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John_Galt posted...
They do?


I dunno but check this out: https://medium.com/@ChngRsrch/we-asked-people-in-7-key-states-about-the-republican-health-care-bill-they-dont-like-it-28d09b76d41e
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John_Galt
06/28/17 11:40:20 AM
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Zembaphobia posted...
John_Galt posted...
Zembaphobia posted...
a majority of dems and republicans alike favor single payer healthcare

They do?


Here's a real poll, when it's time for people to put their money where their mouth is

http://www.denverpost.com/2016/11/08/coloradocare-amendment-69-election-results/
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creativerealms
06/28/17 11:42:21 AM
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John_Galt posted...
Zembaphobia posted...
John_Galt posted...
Zembaphobia posted...
a majority of dems and republicans alike favor single payer healthcare

They do?


Here's a real poll, when it's time for people to put their money where their mouth is

https://ballotpedia.org/Colorado_Creation_of_ColoradoCare_System,_Amendment_69_(2016)

Ops the page you are looking for does not exist.
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meralonne
06/28/17 11:54:04 AM
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Anarchy_Juiblex posted...
meralonne posted...
Neither political party . . .

Code for, "Republicans are dead to rights on this but I'm going to pretend it's rampant on both sides."

Thank you for providing an example of the prevailing attitude.
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Webmaster4531
06/28/17 12:00:59 PM
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meralonne posted...
Neither political party is interested in compromise.

Obamacare was based on a republican plan which was also the basis of Romneycare. If just a few pieces of crap on the republican side replaced the shitty blue dog dems we could have the public option to lower prices.
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creativerealms
06/28/17 12:03:37 PM
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I call Obama care compromise care as that's what it was a compromise.
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Turbam
06/28/17 12:09:11 PM
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They'll send everyone a free pair of bootstraps
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CruelBuffalo
06/28/17 12:11:24 PM
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John_Galt posted...
Zembaphobia posted...
John_Galt posted...
Zembaphobia posted...
a majority of dems and republicans alike favor single payer healthcare

They do?


Here's a real poll, when it's time for people to put their money where their mouth is

http://www.denverpost.com/2016/11/08/coloradocare-amendment-69-election-results/



I would vote against it it's just by state, but I would be in favor of a national model.
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SilvosForever
06/28/17 12:12:51 PM
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Trumpcare.

It's like Trump University, but you die.
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Anarchy_Juiblex
06/28/17 12:16:10 PM
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meralonne posted...
Thank you for providing an example of the prevailing attitude.


Oh fuck the fuck up, this "same thing both sides" idiocy is the problem with not just our politics but our media.
Dems have John Boehner 98% of what he wanted and he still told them to fuck themselves. Republicans do not compromise, Democrats compromise too much.
Failing to see that is on you, it is not both sides being equally terrible in the system.
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meralonne
06/28/17 12:27:03 PM
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Anarchy_Juiblex posted...
Oh fuck the fuck up.

Guess you told me, tough guy. Your persuasion skills are unmatched.
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