Current Events > Why are black people allowed to use the n-word?

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Oh I see, anyone who happens to disagree with you is just an apologist, since you hold the objectively correct opinion. Stepped into that trap, huh.
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Because we took a word that was used towards us in hatred and made it a badge of camaraderie.

For some people (like my mom) its a reminder of how we used to be treated and how many people she knew were hurt and killed with people shouting that word.

For others its a bond that we share with each other for where we once were and where we are now.
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scaler24 posted...

super_clout posted...

or have never hung around with any(i'm taking about people in the hood)

So the opinion of black people who don't live in the "hood" is invalid? Because as I've stated plenty of times, I know plenty of black people in my workplace and at college who get offended by said word regardless of who's the one saying it.

also who the fuck are you to be saying anything on this subject because you have black friends who find it offensive, so what. i have black friends who are doctors, etc... we still use the word.
my parents are phamacist(and my dad is a pastor too)guess what we still use the word and nobody is offended.
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DonaldClinton posted...

That's not a thing

Is too a thing. Its not something you're supposed to brush off. Thats why this is a topic in the first place. You're supposed to care if another race uses it.

Asherlee10 posted...

lukabrosci posted...

Asherlee10 posted...

lukabrosci posted...

Asherlee10 posted...

As a gay person, I also don't care when someone who is not gay uses those terms in front of me.

Thats the thing you to be outraged. Its like the new stepping on someone's shoes.

Huh?

The fake outrage of another race saying the n-word. If you don't get upset you're seen as less black.

You're saying that it's culturally appropriate if you are a black person to be outraged if a non-black person uses the n-word?

No I'm saying its silly.

lukabrosci posted...

Asherlee10 posted...

lukabrosci posted...

Asherlee10 posted...

As a gay person, I also don't care when someone who is not gay uses those terms in front of me.

Thats the thing you to be outraged. Its like the new stepping on someone's shoes.

Huh?

The fake outrage of another race saying the n-word. If you don't get upset you're seen as less black.

Lol, no. Few black people I know actually care about someone saying the n-word if they don't actually seem racist. It's usually white people being all offended for us. Like the Paula Deen thing, most black people didn't really care about her saying it. We did, however, care about that Plantation style dinner party...
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Personally, I find the usage of the word by any race to be offensive. Just because those the word is derogatory term for have started to use it doesn't make it any less offensive.

Likewise, I'd be equally offended if a gay person was freely using the F word.
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Asherlee10 posted...

Xelltrix posted...

Lol, no. Few black people I know actually care about someone saying the n-word if they don't actually seem racist. It's usually white people being all offended for us. Like the Paula Deen thing, most black people didn't really care about her saying it. We did, however, care about that Plantation style dinner party...

Of the gay people I know, myself included, this is the similar sentiment for derogatory terms for gay people.

Yeah, personally I don't really like either deragtory term so I don't use them myself but I don't actually care if anyone uses as long as I don't think they're actually racist/homophobic and they aren't saying it constantly.

I think that's the case for most people.
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Xelltrix posted...

I think that's the case for most people.

Myself included. I don't really care if people use slang towards Latin american people like myself as long as it's not obviously intended to sound offensive.

I was just curious why a word would happen to be offensive depending on who says it, which honestly doesn't make any sense to me.
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Theres nothing to "get", we reclaimed it, you can have your own opinions about how blacks do things but the actual discussion is ours.
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you can't "claim" a word

this is a big source of division in america, certain groups think they get to own words and parts of culture

You promote division when you say one skin color is allowed and another isn't. You know who didn't agree with this "reclaiming" of the N-word. Malcolm X.

If its a racial slur why is it being used? Thats the division right there. Its either right for everyone or not.

Asherlee10 posted...

Bass_X0 posted...

Likewise, I'd be equally offended if a gay person was freely using the F word.

If a straight person (assuming you're straight) got offended that I used f** or d***, we would promptly not hang out again.

That is WAY too uptight for my liking. Borderline obnoxious.

I'm straight and its a downright offensive word used to cause offense regardless of who uses it.
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LeadPipeCinche posted...

the blacks

This guy is the reason the rest of you can't have nice things...
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you haven't explained anything, just said it should be obvious

Asherlee10 posted...

Bass_X0 posted...

Asherlee10 posted...

Bass_X0 posted...

Likewise, I'd be equally offended if a gay person was freely using the F word.

If a straight person (assuming you're straight) got offended that I used f** or d***, we would promptly not hang out again.

That is WAY too uptight for my liking. Borderline obnoxious.

I'm straight and its a downright offensive word used to cause offense regardless of who uses it.

Yeah, you're just obnoxious. We would definitely not hang out. If a straight person was hanging out with a group of my gay friends and tried to call us out for using terms like f** or d***, we would laugh and not hang out again.

I wouldn't hang out with anybody who thought derogatory hateful words was cool to use anyway.
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Bass_X0 posted...

I wouldn't hang out with anybody who thought derogatory hateful words was cool to use anyway.

Intent behind the word.
Otherwise me calling Asherlee an ugly old witch from medieval England might be offensive.
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God, the Defender-type who gets offended on my behalf and starts a raucous over that nonsense are so annoying. It's one thing if the person is legitimately prejudice but oh my god is it annoying when they're getting all upset over these things from people who aren't. Especially if they have the nerve to tell me I should be offended.
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Solar_Crimson posted...

Freddie_Mercury posted...

why do white people want to say it so badly

and why do they want to dictate it's use so badly
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The funny thing about Mahers gaffe is both sides tried to use it in their political narrative while blacks were largely indifferent.
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DonaldClinton posted...

scaler24 posted...

DonaldClinton posted...

It's only offensive because of who is saying it

No, it's not. I have black friends that get offended by the word whenever another black person says it too. The person saying the word doesn't change the fact that the word is horrible and needs to disappear, not be used as slant by a certain group of people

If a black person say it, it's like saying "my fellow black person" or "my brother.". It's a comraderie thing. So if someone who isn't black says it, it's not alright because you're not black and you don't know what black people go through. Some don't like it when anybody says the word because it reminds them of slavery and Jim Crow

LMAO.
Just because you say it means "comrade" doesn't mean that's what the word means. You can't change it's meaning. The word was created to put a race down.

I swear there really is stupid black people that ruin it for the rest of them. They wonder why people look down on all of them. Blame the dumb ones who think like this

Neither of you understand.
As someone that it doesn't affect, I am authorized to decide that you need to be offended. Please let me defend you against something you don't care about.
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TheFireRises posted...

Neither of you understand.
As someone that it doesn't affect, I am authorized to decide that you need to be offended. Please let me defend you against something you don't care about.

This is less about telling them to get offended and more about stating how hypocritical it is for a word being offensive only depending on who says it.
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Cause they're entitled. to the word after generations of suffering
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it's not hypocritical, unless if they were to criticize someone's offense to being referred to by a slur relating to whatever group they belong to by others outside of that group, but not from its members
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scaler24 posted...

TheFireRises posted...

Neither of you understand.
As someone that it doesn't affect, I am authorized to decide that you need to be offended. Please let me defend you against something you don't care about.

This is less about telling them to get offended and more about stating how hypocritical it is for a word being offensive only depending on who says it.

It's technically hypocrisy but it's no different than say calling your sister an idiot or a slut or something and then turning around and bashing someone's skull in for saying the same thing if they're not family.

And I'm obviously embellishing for tone before we start taking that statement literally since this is CE.
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Asherlee10 posted...

Xelltrix posted...

scaler24 posted...

TheFireRises posted...

Neither of you understand.
As someone that it doesn't affect, I am authorized to decide that you need to be offended. Please let me defend you against something you don't care about.

This is less about telling them to get offended and more about stating how hypocritical it is for a word being offensive only depending on who says it.

It's technically hypocrisy but it's no different than say calling your sister an idiot or a slut or something and then turning around and bashing someone's skull in for saying the same thing if they're not family.

And I'm obviously embellishing for tone before we start taking that statement literally since this is CE.

This is a good point. Is there a term for what you described? I've wondered.

Authority?
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Xelltrix posted...

It's technically hypocrisy but it's no different than say calling your sister an idiot or a slut or something and then turning around and bashing someone's skull in for saying the same thing if they're not family.

But you see, this example is interesting. Unlike the poster who mentioned the n-word was used among black people as a term for comradery, calling my sister an idiot or a slut is indeed intended to be offensive, even if playfully so.
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I don't know the actual term, but it's got a trope page.

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/HypocriticalHeartwarming
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This is one thing that really grinds my gears and has for the longest. If you don't like being called that, then don't say it. I say it a lot, but I don't exclusively use it for black people. To be an N is akin to being an idiot--i.e. everyone has the potential to be one. It's not dependent on color, but wholly on one as a person.
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scaler24 posted...

Xelltrix posted...

It's technically hypocrisy but it's no different than say calling your sister an idiot or a slut or something and then turning around and bashing someone's skull in for saying the same thing if they're not family.

But you see, this example is interesting. Unlike the poster who mentioned the n-word was used among black people as a term for comradery, calling my sister an idiot or a slut is indeed intended to be offensive, even if playfully so.

Maybe for you, and maybe sometimes for me. But when I call a friend an insulting name, usually it's not actually ment to be insulting at all. Basically reclaimed as a pet name or a term of endearment rather than its actual offensive roots.
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Matt-Moores posted...

This is one thing that really grinds my gears and has for the longest. If you don't like being called that, then don't say it. I say it a lot, but I don't exclusively use it for black people. To be an N is akin to being an idiot--i.e. everyone has the potential to be one. It's not dependent on color, but wholly on one as a person.

This is "er" versus "a" and conpletely different for most people. For me, I don't say either but for most people there's a definite distinction.
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Xelltrix posted...

Matt-Moores posted...

This is one thing that really grinds my gears and has for the longest. If you don't like being called that, then don't say it. I say it a lot, but I don't exclusively use it for black people. To be an N is akin to being an idiot--i.e. everyone has the potential to be one. It's not dependent on color, but wholly on one as a person.

This is "er" versus "a" and conpletely different for most people. For me, I don't say either but for most people there's a definite distinction.

Well, black people predominately use it, so if you hate it so much when other races use it, then keep it off your lips. T__T

Not YOU you, mind you.
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Matt-Moores posted...

This is one thing that really grinds my gears and has for the longest. If you don't like being called that, then don't say it. I say it a lot, but I don't exclusively use it for black people. To be an N is akin to being an idiot--i.e. everyone has the potential to be one. It's not dependent on color, but wholly on one as a person.

Inb4 someone tells you what you "really mean" because they "can just tell."

Mystere posted...

Matt-Moores posted...

This is one thing that really grinds my gears and has for the longest. If you don't like being called that, then don't say it. I say it a lot, but I don't exclusively use it for black people. To be an N is akin to being an idiot--i.e. everyone has the potential to be one. It's not dependent on color, but wholly on one as a person.

Inb4 someone tells you what you "really mean" because they "can just tell."

Huh?
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LeadPipeCinche posted...

DonaldClinton posted...

scaler24 posted...

DonaldClinton posted...

It's only offensive because of who is saying it

No, it's not. I have black friends that get offended by the word whenever another black person says it too. The person saying the word doesn't change the fact that the word is horrible and needs to disappear, not be used as slant by a certain group of people

If a black person say it, it's like saying "my fellow black person" or "my brother.". It's a comraderie thing. So if someone who isn't black says it, it's not alright because you're not black and you don't know what black people go through. Some don't like it when anybody says the word because it reminds them of slavery and Jim Crow

LMAO.
Just because you say it means "comrade" doesn't mean that's what the word means. You can't change it's meaning. The word was created to put a race down.

I swear there really is stupid black people that ruin it for the rest of them. They wonder why people look down on all of them. Blame the dumb ones who think like this

shit talking like this is not good for ones well being. fuck off you leftist bitch
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Matt-Moores posted...

Xelltrix posted...

Matt-Moores posted...

This is one thing that really grinds my gears and has for the longest. If you don't like being called that, then don't say it. I say it a lot, but I don't exclusively use it for black people. To be an N is akin to being an idiot--i.e. everyone has the potential to be one. It's not dependent on color, but wholly on one as a person.

This is "er" versus "a" and conpletely different for most people. For me, I don't say either but for most people there's a definite distinction.

Well, black people predominately use it, so if you hate it so much when other races use it, then keep it off your lips. T__T

Not YOU you, mind you.

Uh, most black people I know don't use -er for each other in a friendly manner...
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