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That_Happened
06/23/17 10:50:33 AM
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Joeysalads (in the bonus footage video).

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That_Happened
06/23/17 10:54:02 AM
#52:


Zero_Destroyer posted...
LysistrataMedea posted...
you guys are acting like Sargon doesn't single out Anita in his videos on the reg


Scenario A: Video in which person discusses another person

Scenario B: Calling out person in real life in front of a large audience

Never mind the ideological underpinnings that make Anita a hypocrite for doing the latter, the scenarios are entirely different.

You think making video after video on YouTube that thousands of people watch doesn't count as "real life." Lol wow.
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The Deadpool
06/23/17 10:58:56 AM
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Zero_Destroyer posted...
Never mind the ideological underpinnings that make Anita a hypocrite for doing the latter, the scenarios are entirely different.


I never liked Anita's professional victimhood but her being a hypocrite doesn't preclude you guys being a hypocrite.

Criticizing someone isn't harassment. It's not when you do it, and it's not when it's done to you.
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DarkDragon400
06/23/17 11:02:19 AM
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Twinmold posted...
CrimsonRage posted...
Sargon is a garbage human tho

This. The only people who like him are alt-righters and red pillers. Not exactly well respected groups.

No, most of his audience tend to be left-leaning people.
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LordMarshal
06/23/17 11:09:09 AM
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Anything bad coming her way from her videos is seriously her fault. She makes plenty of money anyways so more good comes from it anyways. Shell handle it just fine.

And shes clearly starting shit here so shes doing this on purpose.
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darkjedilink
06/23/17 11:32:32 AM
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eston posted...
I never hear about this woman outside of CE. The hate boners people have for her here are hilarious

Do you live under a rock? She's been on a bunch of national news shows, done TEDTalks, been to the UN. Every one of her videos gets put on the first page of YouTube.

If this board is really the only place you've seen her mentioned, you need to go outside. The yellow one is the sun.
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RebelElite791
06/23/17 11:33:36 AM
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rekt

DarkDragon400 posted...
No, most of his audience tend to be left-leaning people.

LOL
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Clad
06/23/17 11:40:08 AM
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So basically, if you're a Social Justice Powerlord you'll support Anita despite the fact that she's utterly corrupt and cowardly. And if you're a rational individivual, you'll call her out for being a terrible human being.
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ConfessPlease
06/23/17 11:47:03 AM
#59:


Remember when she did those cool video game videos.
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Lorenzo_2003
06/23/17 11:49:23 AM
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darkjedilink posted...
eston posted...
I never hear about this woman outside of CE. The hate boners people have for her here are hilarious

Do you live under a rock? She's been on a bunch of national news shows, done TEDTalks, been to the UN. Every one of her videos gets put on the first page of YouTube.

If this board is really the only place you've seen her mentioned, you need to go outside. The yellow one is the sun.


Lol, nice post. Well, maybe not nice, more like savage. Didn't Sarkeesian also appear on Jon Stewart's show once upon a time?
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Clad
06/23/17 11:50:48 AM
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Notice how it's usually just Social Justice Powerlords who tend to feign ignorance as to who she is. I'm sure they've seen her before and know exactly who she is and how much influence she has. They just agree with her tactics and her views, so they want to minimize the friction she receives on her way towards influencing legislation and shit.
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Engineer_Gamer
06/23/17 11:51:34 AM
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sargon is a high school dropout who claims to be a programmer who doesn't know what an IDE is
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Twinmold
06/23/17 11:59:26 AM
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Do you live under a rock? She's been on a bunch of national news shows, done TEDTalks, been to the UN. Every one of her videos gets put on the first page of YouTube.

Look, I know you live in your little bubble on here, but if you go outside, real outside, you'll see that nobody knows who she is. Your argument keeps cementing you isolation.
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Clad
06/23/17 12:01:13 PM
#64:


Twinmold posted...
Do you live under a rock? She's been on a bunch of national news shows, done TEDTalks, been to the UN. Every one of her videos gets put on the first page of YouTube.

Look, I know you live in your little bubble on here, but if you go outside, real outside, you'll see that nobody knows who she is. Your argument keeps cementing you isolation.


She went to the UN, has been featured on national news shows and magazines like Engadget, has at least one TED Talk. How does nobody know who she is?
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cjsdowg
06/23/17 12:01:38 PM
#65:


Twinmold posted...
Do you live under a rock? She's been on a bunch of national news shows, done TEDTalks, been to the UN. Every one of her videos gets put on the first page of YouTube.

Look, I know you live in your little bubble on here, but if you go outside, real outside, you'll see that nobody knows who she is. Your argument keeps cementing you isolation.


She has literally been on Network TV and the UN talking about this stuff.
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RebelElite791
06/23/17 12:02:33 PM
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Clad posted...
She went to the UN, has been featured on national news shows and magazines like Engadget, has at least one TED Talk. How does nobody know who she is?

cjsdowg posted...
She has literally been on Network TV and the UN talking about this stuff.

I guarantee I could go up to every single person in my family and everyone I work with who isn't into the gaming scene and not a single person would have ever even heard her name.
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HellsingOrg
06/23/17 12:03:58 PM
#67:


Twinmold posted...
Do you live under a rock? She's been on a bunch of national news shows, done TEDTalks, been to the UN. Every one of her videos gets put on the first page of YouTube.

Look, I know you live in your little bubble on here, but if you go outside, real outside, you'll see that nobody knows who she is. Your argument keeps cementing you isolation.


Dude she was on Stephen Colbert and talked about gamers. Literally half my family brought it up that week asking me about "that Anita lady on tv" talking about how your gamers are bad and stuff lol
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Clad
06/23/17 12:04:33 PM
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RebelElite791 posted...
I guarantee I could go up to every single person in my family and everyone I work with who isn't into the gaming scene and not a single person would have ever even heard her name.


Therefore absolutely no one knows about her and she's got no significance or weight to throw around.

That's it everyone, pack it up and go home. Rebel's family and some work colleagues have never heard of a popular and known Youtuber, therefore no one knows her and she's nothing to worry about!
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RebelElite791
06/23/17 12:05:29 PM
#69:


Clad posted...
RebelElite791 posted...
I guarantee I could go up to every single person in my family and everyone I work with who isn't into the gaming scene and not a single person would have ever even heard her name.


Therefore absolutely no one knows about her and she's got no significance or weight to throw around.

That's it everyone, pack it up and go home. Rebel's family and some work colleagues have never heard of a popular and known Youtuber, therefore no one knows her and she's nothing to worry about!

That isn't what I'm saying and you know it. But you're both acting like she's well-known outside of a very niche scene. Even mainstream gamers who don't get into the subculture have no idea who she is.
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Engineer_Gamer
06/23/17 12:07:19 PM
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"i literally cannot fathom the idea that hating or even knowing of anita sarkeesian is a niche endeavor in the grand scheme of gaming" - guy who still posts on gamefaqs social boards in 2017
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Twinmold
06/23/17 12:08:07 PM
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Literally half my family brought it up that week asking me about "that Anita lady on tv" talking about how your gamers are bad and stuff lol

Lol, why do so many nerds fantasize about situations where they are easily angered? We all know this didn't happen. You just wish it did because then your whining would have merit, instead of just being another grown man who's really bitter about women.
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Clad
06/23/17 12:09:04 PM
#72:


RebelElite791 posted...
That isn't what I'm saying and you know it. But you're both acting like she's well-known outside of a very niche scene. Even mainstream gamers who don't get into the subculture have no idea who she is.


Is she well known enough to get featured on Engadget, go to the UN, be on Stephen Colbert, have a TED Talk, and influence legislation in toxic and regressive ways?
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Engineer_Gamer
06/23/17 12:10:17 PM
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Clad posted...
RebelElite791 posted...
That isn't what I'm saying and you know it. But you're both acting like she's well-known outside of a very niche scene. Even mainstream gamers who don't get into the subculture have no idea who she is.


Is she well known enough to get featured on Engadget, go to the UN, be on Stephen Colbert, have a TED Talk, and influence legislation in toxic and regressive ways?

lmao what legislation has she actually influenced you spaz

boy you straight from a 2012 basement
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Lorenzo_2003
06/23/17 12:11:45 PM
#74:


RebelElite791 posted...

I guarantee I could go up to every single person in my family and everyone I work with who isn't into the gaming scene and not a single person would have ever even heard her name.


I can believe that. I met some college students who had never watched Lord of the Rings and didn't know what The Matrix is. All pop references went straight over their heads. The worst (IMO) are the people who have no absolutely no clue what happened on 9/11. I didn't think that was possible, but there are people who live enjoyable lives without ever reading or watching the news. On second thought, maybe that's why it's enjoyable.
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Mystere
06/23/17 12:11:54 PM
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Who the fuck is Sargon?
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Engineer_Gamer
06/23/17 12:12:55 PM
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Mystere posted...
Who the fuck is Sargon?

fat british dropout who moans about feminists to an audience of suburban white american boys who assume he must be smart due to his accent
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cjsdowg
06/23/17 12:13:42 PM
#77:


Mystere posted...
Who the f*** is Sargon?

He is a some red pill guy who loves to complain about black people,Muslims and woman.
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FaultyGourry
06/23/17 12:15:03 PM
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What the fuck is Vidcon and why the fuck are Anita and Sargon stupidly deemed important enough to speak at it?
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GamerSanta
06/23/17 12:16:19 PM
#80:


GOATTHlEF posted...
Why are we still letting these people be the voicepieces of our hobby?

This. I have never heard of Sargon or seen Anita popup in almost a year. Point is, these people are worthless to the world. They are just as worthless as you and me; following this "drama" is a waste of the finite time you have being alive.
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Esrac
06/23/17 12:18:35 PM
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cjsdowg posted...
Twinmold posted...
Do you live under a rock? She's been on a bunch of national news shows, done TEDTalks, been to the UN. Every one of her videos gets put on the first page of YouTube.

Look, I know you live in your little bubble on here, but if you go outside, real outside, you'll see that nobody knows who she is. Your argument keeps cementing you isolation.


She has literally been on Network TV and the UN talking about this stuff.


How many people do you think pay attention to people who speak at the UN? Probably very few.

Tons of people show up on TV shows, that doesn't mean they're memorable to the general public.

Outside of would-be social activists on twitter and game developers trying to not get her and games journalists shitting on their game, I don't think she has much of an audience. I mean, I think most of the coverage regarding her has next to nothing to do with the content she produces and more to do with "Some people said mean things to her on the internet. Women have it so hard. Be sympathetic."
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Engineer_Gamer
06/23/17 12:18:44 PM
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GamerSanta posted...
GOATTHlEF posted...
Why are we still letting these people be the voicepieces of our hobby?

This. I have never heard of Sargon or seen Anita popup in almost a year. Point is, these people are worthless to the world. They are just as worthless as you and me; following this "drama" is a waste of the finite time you have being alive.

you gotta understand that for a lot of these forum-gamer dudes, whose list of hobbies pretty much start and end at "post about the intersection of video games and politics online", this is literally the only thing happening in the world to them. it's the filter through which they interpret all other news and they don't have much else in their lives to distract them from it.
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Mystere
06/23/17 12:20:18 PM
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The only real thing to do is either get her name out of your vocabulary or make sure her name becomes synonymous with con artist.
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CruelBuffalo
06/23/17 12:20:47 PM
#84:


Error1355 posted...
If it wasn't for the people complaining about her constantly I would never hear about her at all.
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The Deadpool
06/23/17 12:23:02 PM
#85:


Esrac posted...
How many people do you think pay attention to people who speak at the UN? Probably very few.


I doubt a single person reading this could, without Googling, say who the last person to give a TED talk was, or the last person to speak at the UN was, or even name a quarter of Colbert's guests.

You know her because Gamergate was a thing.
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Esrac
06/23/17 12:23:35 PM
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Engineer_Gamer posted...
Mystere posted...
Who the fuck is Sargon?

fat british dropout who moans about feminists to an audience of suburban white american boys who assume he must be smart due to his accent


I like his This Week in Stupid videos on occasion, but I remember he did some internet debate with a feminist professor some time ago and he did very poorly.

His points could be summarized as "Something something, manspreading! Blah blah, mansplaining!" It was pretty cringey. And I say that as someone who has some negative opinions regarding feminists and feminism.
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Lorenzo_2003
06/23/17 12:23:44 PM
#87:


GOATTHlEF posted...
Why are we still letting these people be the voicepieces of our hobby?


How do you propose limiting Sarkeesian or this Sargon guy? They get invited to mainstream and, yes, niche events to speak, while still creating videos for one of the most popular websites for user-submitted content on the planet. Meanwhile, we can barely have a discussion about it because their fans not surprisingly think you're sexist for even bringing it up and the non-fans get insulted when someone mentions them.
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Engineer_Gamer
06/23/17 12:27:13 PM
#88:


Esrac posted...
Engineer_Gamer posted...
Mystere posted...
Who the fuck is Sargon?

fat british dropout who moans about feminists to an audience of suburban white american boys who assume he must be smart due to his accent


I like his This Week in Stupid videos on occasion, but I remember he did some internet debate with a feminist professor some time ago and he did very poorly.

His points could be summarized as "Something something, manspreading! Blah blah, mansplaining!" It was pretty cringey. And I say that as someone who has some negative opinions regarding feminists and feminism.

I know the one you're talking about. Imagine the type of people who watched that and thought Sargon won handily. That's gamergate, well, the dregs of its remains at this point I should say. I never really thought they were a dangerous bunch, but certainly one of the more notable motherloads of stupidity I've encountered in my net-drama adventures.
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Esrac
06/23/17 12:27:31 PM
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The Deadpool posted...
Esrac posted...
How many people do you think pay attention to people who speak at the UN? Probably very few.


I doubt a single person reading this could, without Googling, say who the last person to give a TED talk was, or the last person to speak at the UN was, or even name a quarter of Colbert's guests.

You know her because Gamergate was a thing.


I used to actually watch TED talks fairly regularly, but I lost interest in that some time ago. I couldn't tell you any of the speakers at the UN and I couldn't name any guests on the Colbert Report.

However, of the people that do know of Sarkeesian, I think a lot of them were aware of her before Gamergate, because she got the bulk of her attention before Gamergate happened. She got popular because some games journalists wanted to take up for the lady who was getting shit on for her kickstarter.
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Mystere
06/23/17 12:28:50 PM
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Anita's face seems fatter than usual.
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HellsingOrg
06/23/17 12:30:00 PM
#91:


cjsdowg posted...
Mystere posted...
Who the f*** is Sargon?

He is a some red pill guy who loves to complain about black people,Muslims and woman.


Yet his best friends irl are black and ex muslims lol
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Engineer_Gamer
06/23/17 12:30:49 PM
#92:


HellsingOrg posted...
cjsdowg posted...
Mystere posted...
Who the f*** is Sargon?

He is a some red pill guy who loves to complain about black people,Muslims and woman.


Yet his best friends irl are black and ex muslims lol

i want you to know that there are literally decades worth of material on why the line of logic you took on this rebuttal is moronic
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thelovefist
06/23/17 12:40:09 PM
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lilORANG posted...
Sargon is terrible but I feel like she was expecting a big cheer after she called him out and instead there was just silence lol.

It looks like there were only a dozen or so people there.
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MC_BatCommander
06/23/17 12:41:08 PM
#94:


What's a Sargon?
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NXmasterrace
06/23/17 12:45:21 PM
#95:


It takes one to know one
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KamenRiderBlade
06/23/17 12:48:27 PM
#96:


It's just so sad that so many people even gave money to Anita in the first place.

She doesn't deserve a single cent of it for being such a pathetic excuse for a human being.
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Esrac
06/23/17 1:13:28 PM
#97:


Engineer_Gamer posted...
Esrac posted...
Engineer_Gamer posted...
Mystere posted...
Who the fuck is Sargon?

fat british dropout who moans about feminists to an audience of suburban white american boys who assume he must be smart due to his accent


I like his This Week in Stupid videos on occasion, but I remember he did some internet debate with a feminist professor some time ago and he did very poorly.

His points could be summarized as "Something something, manspreading! Blah blah, mansplaining!" It was pretty cringey. And I say that as someone who has some negative opinions regarding feminists and feminism.

I know the one you're talking about. Imagine the type of people who watched that and thought Sargon won handily. That's gamergate, well, the dregs of its remains at this point I should say.


Is this a bad time to say I don't especially have a problem with Gamergate? Yeah, there was some bad behaviour all around during the big shit show a couple years ago and the "ethics in games journalism" mostly amounts to "bitching about SJWs", but I don't buy the claims that they're a hate campaign determined to keep gaming straight, white, and male.

On the other hand, if you want to wade through some shit...

https://www.reddit.com/r/KotakuInAction/comments/6ixt8s/drama_anita_called_sargon_who_was_attending_her/
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gp1829
06/23/17 2:16:14 PM
#98:


There's a guy named Joey Salads running around out there?
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cjsdowg
06/23/17 2:21:49 PM
#99:


gp1829 posted...
There's a guy named Joey Salads running around out there?


Yeah is some guy who pays black people do to things like break up a car or hit someone and he claims it for like a TV show or something. Then later it claims that it is real and just these random black people messed up this guys car since it had a Trump sticker on it.
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WizardPowers
06/23/17 2:23:53 PM
#100:


Is that Joey Salads?
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