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LeonhartFour
06/20/17 7:23:10 PM
#51:


LameJokeAlt posted...
Humans are pretty terrible at it, though. See my other topic for details.


I think we're pretty great at eating everything imaginable.
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SupremeZero
06/20/17 7:23:44 PM
#52:


LameJokeAlt posted...
SupremeZero posted...
LameJokeAlt posted...
SupremeZero posted...
Humans are in fact omnivores.

Humans are pretty terrible at it, though. See my other topic for details.

Bitch please. We are the best omnivores that ever omnivored. Top of the food chain!

Omnivores aren't apex predators.

And yet here we are!
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LameJokeAlt
06/20/17 7:28:34 PM
#53:


LeonhartFour posted...
I think we're pretty great at eating everything imaginable.

Yeah, that's why we generally can't eat meat from carnivores because, unless it's fish, it will poison us.

SupremeZero posted...
And yet here we are!

Yeah, and when we're not protected by society, we get eaten by large cars, bears, and sharks.
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Jeff Zero
06/20/17 7:29:37 PM
#54:


we get eaten by large cars


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SupremeZero
06/20/17 7:30:00 PM
#55:


LameJokeAlt posted...
LeonhartFour posted...
I think we're pretty great at eating everything imaginable.

Yeah, that's why we generally can't eat meat from carnivores because, unless it's fish, it will poison us.

SupremeZero posted...
And yet here we are!

Yeah, and when we're not protected by society, we get eaten by large cars, bears, and sharks.

Actually, we are in fact protected by guns.
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Shaduln
06/20/17 7:30:01 PM
#56:


Fuck cars have evolved to be able to eat us?
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SupremeZero
06/20/17 7:30:30 PM
#57:


Shaduln posted...
Fuck cars have evolved to be able to eat us?

The true apex predator. They've eaten us to absorb our power. We hop right in without thinking about it!
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LeonhartFour
06/20/17 7:30:40 PM
#58:


I don't think animals have a fear of society, actually.
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LameJokeAlt
06/20/17 7:31:32 PM
#59:


SupremeZero posted...
Actually, we are in fact protected by guns.

Okay, society and killing tools.

Shaduln posted...
Fuck cars have evolved to be able to eat us?

Obviously that's a typo, but I wouldn't be surprised if carnivores designed such cars.
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LameJokeAlt
06/20/17 7:32:43 PM
#60:


LeonhartFour posted...
I don't think animals have a fear of society, actually.

Many animals know to avoid humans because we can outnumber them and have tools that can kill them easily. But animals like cats and dogs are part of the human society.
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SupremeZero
06/20/17 7:32:56 PM
#61:


LameJokeAlt posted...
SupremeZero posted...
Actually, we are in fact protected by guns.

Okay, society and killing tools.

Shaduln posted...
Fuck cars have evolved to be able to eat us?

Obviously that's a typo, but I wouldn't be surprised if carnivores designed such cars.

Our ability to create and use guns makes us not apex predators?

Man, that sucks for monkeys, we have to downgrade them too.
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foolm0r0n
06/20/17 7:33:09 PM
#62:


LameJokeAlt posted...
we get eaten by large cars

this is some funny shit imo
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LameJokeAlt
06/20/17 7:33:55 PM
#63:


SupremeZero posted...
Our ability to create and use guns makes us not apex predators?

Not any more than a beaver's ability to make a dam makes him an engineer.
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SupremeZero
06/20/17 7:35:59 PM
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LameJokeAlt posted...
SupremeZero posted...
Our ability to create and use guns makes us not apex predators?

Not any more than a beaver's ability to make a dam makes him an engineer.

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So it makes us absolutely apex predators, then? Seeing as beavers are literally called "forest engineers".
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LeonhartFour
06/20/17 7:36:17 PM
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Evillordexdeath
06/20/17 7:36:19 PM
#66:


If omnivores aren't apex predators, does that not seem to indicate that humans are actually carnivores?
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LameJokeAlt
06/20/17 7:38:37 PM
#67:


SupremeZero posted...
So it makes us absolutely apex predators, then? Seeing as beavers are literally called "forest engineers".

No. I don't see any beavers designing national highway systems or actually significant dams.

Evillordexdeath posted...
If omnivores aren't apex predators, does that not seem to indicate that humans are actually carnivores?

No because we're neither.
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SupremeZero
06/20/17 7:38:48 PM
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Man, this person who talks about loving animals seems to have no respect for animals. Beavers not being engineers, for fucks sake.
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SantaRPidgey
06/20/17 7:38:54 PM
#69:


Yo lja do you go to any furcons?

We should meet up at one sometime
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SupremeZero
06/20/17 7:39:49 PM
#70:


LameJokeAlt posted...
SupremeZero posted...
So it makes us absolutely apex predators, then? Seeing as beavers are literally called "forest engineers".

No. I don't see any beavers designing national highway systems or actually significant dams.

Evillordexdeath posted...
If omnivores aren't apex predators, does that not seem to indicate that humans are actually carnivores?

No because we're neither.

I don't know how to tell you this, but not every engineer has had the opportunity to build the hoover dam or the national highway.
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BowserCuffs
06/20/17 7:40:22 PM
#71:


What defines humanity, as for how we evolved, is our capacity to use tools. Many primates use tools, for that matter.

Removing a human from his tools is almost like removing a wolf from his teeth, except many crafty humans can develop fighting techniques that allow them to lethally take down a better-armed predator. However, in this situation, it would have to be a lethal takedown to protect you from any further attacks from the animal.

And at that point, may as well eat the meat so it doesn't go to waste.
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LameJokeAlt
06/20/17 7:49:26 PM
#72:


SupremeZero posted...
Man, this person who talks about loving animals seems to have no respect for animals. Beavers not being engineers, for fucks sake.

SupremeZero posted...
I don't know how to tell you this, but not every engineer has had the opportunity to build the hoover dam or the national highway.

That's the point. They're not master engineers. Just like how we're not apex predators. Not every predator is an apex predator.

BowserCuffs posted...
What defines humanity, as for how we evolved, is our capacity to use tools. Many primates use tools, for that matter.

Removing a human from his tools is almost like removing a wolf from his teeth, except many crafty humans can develop fighting techniques that allow them to lethally take down a better-armed predator. However, in this situation, it would have to be a lethal takedown to protect you from any further attacks from the animal.

And at that point, may as well eat the meat so it doesn't go to waste.

"Might as well eat the meat" is something a cannibal would say. Be careful with the mentality.
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Evillordexdeath
06/20/17 7:50:01 PM
#73:


If you kill an animal in self-defense I don't see any sensible reason why you can't eat it. It would be wrong to do so to a human because animals who eat their own kind are low, and we know that because humans have a natural disgust reaction to cannibalism. But to do it to another animal, that's just nature.
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SupremeZero
06/20/17 7:50:53 PM
#74:


LameJokeAlt posted...
SupremeZero posted...
Man, this person who talks about loving animals seems to have no respect for animals. Beavers not being engineers, for fucks sake.

SupremeZero posted...
I don't know how to tell you this, but not every engineer has had the opportunity to build the hoover dam or the national highway.

That's the point. They're not master engineers. Just like how we're not apex predators. Not every predator is an apex predator.

BowserCuffs posted...
What defines humanity, as for how we evolved, is our capacity to use tools. Many primates use tools, for that matter.

Removing a human from his tools is almost like removing a wolf from his teeth, except many crafty humans can develop fighting techniques that allow them to lethally take down a better-armed predator. However, in this situation, it would have to be a lethal takedown to protect you from any further attacks from the animal.

And at that point, may as well eat the meat so it doesn't go to waste.

"Might as well eat the meat" is something a cannibal would say. Be careful with the mentality.

Beaver's build effective dams out of fucking sticks, they're Super Master Class Engineers.
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LameJokeAlt
06/20/17 7:51:33 PM
#75:


Evillordexdeath posted...
If you kill an animal in self-defense I don't see any sensible reason why you can't eat it. It would be wrong to do so to a human because animals who eat their own kind are low, and we know that because humans have a natural disgust reaction to cannibalism. But to do it to another animal, that's just nature.

Not everyone, though. There are lots of people that wouldn't mine cannibalizing people. It's even in the media. Look at all the fans of Hannibal that said the food on the show looked good.
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LameJokeAlt
06/20/17 7:51:58 PM
#76:


SupremeZero posted...
Beaver's build effective dams out of fucking sticks, they're Super Master Class Engineers.

This is not Duty Calls.
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5tarscream
06/20/17 7:53:18 PM
#77:


LameJokeAlt posted...
SupremeZero posted...
Actually, we are in fact protected by guns.

Okay, society and killing tools.

Shaduln posted...
Fuck cars have evolved to be able to eat us?

Obviously that's a typo, but I wouldn't be surprised if carnivores designed such cars.


Carsnivores?
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Evillordexdeath
06/20/17 7:53:38 PM
#78:


Yeah, it's possible for people to get perverted ideas in a number of ways. Those people would be one example of that.

Of course, their reaction to the food isn't a great example of how people react to cannibalism, because it would have been stage-props and not real human meat.
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X_Dante_X
06/20/17 7:54:53 PM
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i'd be willing to sign my rec for some beavers to get licensed as an engineer

most are pretty good at what they do
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LameJokeAlt
06/20/17 7:56:46 PM
#80:


Evillordexdeath posted...
Yeah, it's possible for people to get perverted ideas in a number of ways. Those people would be one example of that.

Of course, their reaction to the food isn't a great example of how people react to cannibalism, because it would have been stage-props and not real human meat.

The props represent human meat, though. During the suspension of disbelief, they liked the way the human meat looked.
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Evillordexdeath
06/20/17 7:57:31 PM
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Humans are better engineers than beavers, at least when we learn the skill, so beavers aren't necessarily what you might call apex engineers. Unlike humans as predators.
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MZero11
06/20/17 7:57:41 PM
#82:


why tf does this have 80 posts
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X_Dante_X
06/20/17 7:58:25 PM
#83:


Evillordexdeath posted...
Humans are better engineers than beavers, at least when we learn the skill, so beavers aren't necessarily what you might call apex engineers. Unlike humans as predators.


idk i think a lot of human engineers can super overthink things and not actually get anything done
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LameJokeAlt
06/20/17 7:58:58 PM
#84:


Evillordexdeath posted...
Humans are better engineers than beavers, at least when we learn the skill, so beavers aren't necessarily what you might call apex engineers. Unlike humans as predators.

How are we top predators when multiple animals still see us as food?
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Evillordexdeath
06/20/17 8:01:53 PM
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Is there any species alive that we aren't capable of killing? Perhaps some in the deep oceans that we simply can't reach, but if we could reach them we could kill them. I would say that makes us the greatest predators on the earth. It's not that rare for two predator species to fight each other.
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LameJokeAlt
06/20/17 8:03:02 PM
#86:


Evillordexdeath posted...
Is there any species alive that we aren't capable of killing? Perhaps some in the deep oceans that we simply can't reach, but if we could reach them we could kill them. I would say that makes us the greatest predators on the earth. It's not that rare for two predator species to fight each other.

Yes, humans like to kill animals just because they can. And a lot of people support it. Poor Harambe, poor Cecil the Lion...
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SupremeZero
06/20/17 8:04:42 PM
#87:


LameJokeAlt posted...
Evillordexdeath posted...
Humans are better engineers than beavers, at least when we learn the skill, so beavers aren't necessarily what you might call apex engineers. Unlike humans as predators.

How are we top predators when multiple animals still see us as food?

Same way Coyotes are apex predators despite multiple animals seeing them as food.
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Evillordexdeath
06/20/17 8:05:10 PM
#88:


I don't know about Cecil, but I don't think they killed Harambe just because they could to be honest.
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LameJokeAlt
06/20/17 8:07:54 PM
#89:


SantaRPidgey posted...
Yo lja do you go to any furcons?

We should meet up at one sometime

Sure. I'm going to Anthrocon the weekend after next.

SupremeZero posted...
Same way Coyotes are apex predators despite multiple animals seeing them as food.

Are they actually apex predators, then?

Evillordexdeath posted...
I don't know about Cecil, but I don't think they killed Harambe just because they could to be honest.

They could have shot him with a tranquilizer dart.
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Evillordexdeath
06/20/17 8:09:40 PM
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Sure, but that would have been risky - tranquilizer darts don't take effect instantaneously. I can kind of understand why someone would have a problem with eating animals, but I don't think it makes sense to say we can't defend our young from other animals.
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SupremeZero
06/20/17 8:10:06 PM
#91:


LameJokeAlt posted...
SantaRPidgey posted...
Yo lja do you go to any furcons?

We should meet up at one sometime

Sure. I'm going to Anthrocon the weekend after next.

SupremeZero posted...
Same way Coyotes are apex predators despite multiple animals seeing them as food.

Are they actually apex predators, then?

Evillordexdeath posted...
I don't know about Cecil, but I don't think they killed Harambe just because they could to be honest.

They could have shot him with a tranquilizer dart.

Yes, they actually are.
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LameJokeAlt
06/20/17 8:13:11 PM
#92:


Evillordexdeath posted...
Sure, but that would have been risky - tranquilizer darts don't take effect instantaneously. I can kind of understand why someone would have a problem with eating animals, but I don't think it makes sense to say we can't defend our young from other animals.

I'm not saying we shouldn't. I'm saying we shouldn't kill animals when alternatives exist.

SupremeZero posted...
Yes, they actually are.

Then they're crappy apex predators.
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Evillordexdeath
06/20/17 8:14:36 PM
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Okay, but what if the alternatives are significantly less practical, and the situation is life and death?
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SupremeZero
06/20/17 8:15:22 PM
#94:


LameJokeAlt posted...
Evillordexdeath posted...
Sure, but that would have been risky - tranquilizer darts don't take effect instantaneously. I can kind of understand why someone would have a problem with eating animals, but I don't think it makes sense to say we can't defend our young from other animals.

I'm not saying we shouldn't. I'm saying we shouldn't kill animals when alternatives exist.

SupremeZero posted...
Yes, they actually are.

Then they're crappy apex predators.

Those poor animals are crushed by your animal-hating opinion of their apex predator status.
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LameJokeAlt
06/20/17 8:17:39 PM
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Evillordexdeath posted...
Okay, but what if the alternatives are significantly less practical, and the situation is life and death?

Harambe wasn't even abusing the kid. It looked like he was protecting him.

SupremeZero posted...
Those poor animals are crushed by your animal-hating opinion of their apex predator status.

Really? Wasn't it you that said that animals just don't care?
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SupremeZero
06/20/17 8:20:41 PM
#96:


LameJokeAlt posted...
Evillordexdeath posted...
Okay, but what if the alternatives are significantly less practical, and the situation is life and death?

Harambe wasn't even abusing the kid. It looked like he was protecting him.

SupremeZero posted...
Those poor animals are crushed by your animal-hating opinion of their apex predator status.

Really? Wasn't it you that said that animals just don't care?

I have, in fact, not once used the word care this entire day.

Until now, obviously.
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LameJokeAlt
06/20/17 8:21:26 PM
#97:


SupremeZero posted...
LameJokeAlt posted...
Evillordexdeath posted...
Okay, but what if the alternatives are significantly less practical, and the situation is life and death?

Harambe wasn't even abusing the kid. It looked like he was protecting him.

SupremeZero posted...
Those poor animals are crushed by your animal-hating opinion of their apex predator status.

Really? Wasn't it you that said that animals just don't care?

I have, in fact, not once used the word care this entire day.

Until now, obviously.

My apologies. The arguments from many people attacking me all at once tends to make me blur people together.
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SupremeZero
06/20/17 8:22:21 PM
#98:


LameJokeAlt posted...
SupremeZero posted...
LameJokeAlt posted...
Evillordexdeath posted...
Okay, but what if the alternatives are significantly less practical, and the situation is life and death?

Harambe wasn't even abusing the kid. It looked like he was protecting him.

SupremeZero posted...
Those poor animals are crushed by your animal-hating opinion of their apex predator status.

Really? Wasn't it you that said that animals just don't care?

I have, in fact, not once used the word care this entire day.

Until now, obviously.

My apologies. The arguments from many people attacking me all at once tends to make me blur people together.

Would you be so kind as to also apologize to the poor coyotes who you have demeaned?
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tabiicat42
06/20/17 8:22:55 PM
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LameJokeAlt
06/20/17 8:23:08 PM
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My apologies, coyotes.
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