Current Events > Here is the trailer for the Hulk Hogan vs Gawker documentary

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Netflix exclusive -

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PHow1B32WZw

Holy shit, seems like they're taking Gawker's side.
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Why are they making Gawker look like the good guy?
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Wtf does it go into free speech and Trump for?
What Gawker did never has and never should be a right of free speech or freedom of the press.
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Can't watch it. What are they saying about Gawker?
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Are they seriously defending Gawker?

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refmon posted...

Why are they making Gawker look like the good guy?

I don't have a clue. . .

How is Hogan being recorded illegal freedom of the press? Looking at the comments they're saying it's not just about the Hogan case, but an attack on the press. They outed someone as being gay, and he's the one that was backing Hogan's court fees. Seems like it might be a big rabbit hole here. Guess we'll have to see
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Veggeta X posted...

Can't watch it. What are they saying about Gawker?

They're saying that it's an attack on all media since billionaires are trying to shut down freedom of press. Hogan's sex tape should be open to them because of freedom of the press. It's a bunch of bull shit
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Gamer99z posted...

Wtf does it go into free speech and Trump for?
What Gawker did never has and never should be a right of free speech or freedom of the press.

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So if I posted a sex tape against the will of a participant, I'm a criminal who deserves to be punished. But if a journalist posts a sex tape against the will of the participant, it's free speech.

And this documentary is taking Gawker's side?
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gmanthebest posted...

So if I posted a sex tape against the will of a participant, I'm a criminal who deserves to be punished. But if a journalist posts a sex tape against the will of the participant, it's free speech.

And this documentary is taking Gawker's side?

Yes
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Veggeta X posted...

Can't watch it. What are they saying about Gawker?

That apparently posting someone's sex tape against their consent is "freedom of speech" and that Trump and a bunch of other billionaires have a huge hate boner for Gawker and secretly funded Hogan's case.

Like, wtf >_>
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down with the Netflix
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NeonOctopus posted...

Veggeta X posted...

Can't watch it. What are they saying about Gawker?

That apparently posting someone's sex tape against their consent is "freedom of speech" and that Trump and a bunch of other billionaires have a huge hate boner for Gawker and secretly funded Hogan's case.

Like, wtf >_>

Trump is a WWE Hall of Fame member. Of course he helped a fellow brother out.
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Bad_Mojo posted...

gmanthebest posted...

So if I posted a sex tape against the will of a participant, I'm a criminal who deserves to be punished. But if a journalist posts a sex tape against the will of the participant, it's free speech.

And this documentary is taking Gawker's side?

Yes

What a joke. (Not so secret bump)
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The recording wasn't illegal, he was in another person's house fucking his wife. You have no expectation of privacy.
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KiwiTerraRizing posted...

The recording wasn't illegal, he was in another person's house fucking his wife. You have no expectation of privacy.

So you're saying I can record people in the bathroom at my home and then sell it to people or leak it online?
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kuwab0 posted...

is he swimming dorsal or something
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Kim Kusanagi posted...

is he swimming dorsal or something

Right off the top of my head, I think he's talking about The Natural Disasters - Earthquake and Typhoon

Nope, it's from WrestleMania 4 -

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UT9lK9jZ5P0


Thanks, PWB!
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KiwiTerraRizing posted...

The recording wasn't illegal, he was in another person's house fucking his wife. You have no expectation of privacy.

This is the dumbest thing you've ever said, and that's saying something.
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Didn't gawker once out a gay person in a country where being gay was a capital offense
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GiftedACIII posted...

Didn't gawker once out a gay person in a country where being gay was a capital offense

Wouldn't surprise me

Oh, Oh, OOOOOH

He's the guy that helped Hogan with the money for the trial. He's in the trailer for this.
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GiftedACIII posted...

Didn't gawker once out a gay person in a country where being gay was a capital offense

They outed the CFO of rival organization Conde Nast for allegedly hiring a male escort and that was pretty friggin' disgusting tbh.

Just watched the trailer and holy hell the things they're trying to demonstrate there are so friggin' outrageous. Showing all this footage that it was a "personal war" and that billionaires are trying to control free speech and all that garbage. It's obvious the person or people who made this are just friends with the idiots at Gawker, and not-so-subtly attacking Trump simultaneously (who knows, maybe that's their goal).

Bad_Mojo posted...

Veggeta X posted...

Can't watch it. What are they saying about Gawker?

They're saying that it's an attack on all media since billionaires are trying to shut down freedom of press. Hogan's sex tape should be open to them because of freedom of the press. It's a bunch of bull shit

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How the fuck they connect the Hogan case with free speech is beyond me. It's a gross invasion of privacy at best
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lol they are getting TRASHED in those comments! The like/dislikes are equal, but the comments are pretty much completely objectively against it.
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Can we all just agree that the big, bad heel took The Leg from Hogan for the 1-2-3?
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Not gonna lie I'm probably going to cancel my Netflix sub over this.

Hexenherz posted...

Not gonna lie I'm probably going to cancel my Netflix sub over this.

lol thats dramatic.

its just another opinionated documentary. calm down.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xJop4xQuGHU
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I don't like Terry Bollea.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lCHBpqFsSEY
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I remember Gawker made some sub site called "The Cuck" right before they died and it was about how men should act.


it was funny >_>
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Remember when Gawker was all "OMG You guys shouldn't be looking at the leaked nudes of all these female actors! You aren't respecting them at all"
And then later they were like "Lol suck it Hogan, we're keeping your sex tape up for everyone to see"
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kenio8187 posted...

I don't remember this event 100%, but I recall thinking that Gawker was in the wrong here. Can someone tell me if I was right?

Yes you were. Gawker go ahold of the sex tape and Hogan, no authorizing it, sent a bunch of cease and desist letters that they ignored.

It went to court and they lost after a long smear campaign on their website against him.

They basically used their media platform to wage a personal vendetta against a celeb they didnt like. It was a violation of basic journalistic ethics and frankly disgusting.
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Fuck gawker

Turbam posted...

Remember when Gawker was all "OMG You guys shouldn't be looking at the leaked nudes of all these female actors! You aren't respecting them at all"
And then later they were like "Lol suck it Hogan, we're keeping your sex tape up for everyone to see"

But apparently Hogan's sex tape was "newsworthy". Fucking morons. Then that one creep who was joking about child porn being newsworthy if they're over 5.
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So the video is not even going to touch on the fact that hogan got out of bed with a naked woman because his Brooke ringtone went off, and during sex talk with the woman, he spent it discussing Brooke's sex life
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E32005 posted...

kenio8187 posted...

I don't remember this event 100%, but I recall thinking that Gawker was in the wrong here. Can someone tell me if I was right?

Yes you were. Gawker go ahold of the sex tape and Hogan, no authorizing it, sent a bunch of cease and desist letters that they ignored.

It went to court and they lost after a long smear campaign on their website against him.

They basically used their media platform to wage a personal vendetta against a celeb they didnt like. It was a violation of basic journalistic ethics and frankly disgusting.

Don't forget their hypocrisy in all of this as well - Gawker trashed other journalists for leaking the Jennifer Lawrence nudes.
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E32005 posted...

kenio8187 posted...

I don't remember this event 100%, but I recall thinking that Gawker was in the wrong here. Can someone tell me if I was right?

Yes you were. Gawker go ahold of the sex tape and Hogan, no authorizing it, sent a bunch of cease and desist letters that they ignored.

It went to court and they lost after a long smear campaign on their website against him.

They basically used their media platform to wage a personal vendetta against a celeb they didnt like. It was a violation of basic journalistic ethics and frankly disgusting.

Gawker was, is, and always will be a tabloid.

lmao @ them caring about journalistic ethics
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NeonOctopus posted...

Trump and a bunch of other billionaires have a huge hate boner for Gawker and secretly funded Hogan's case.

Bad_Mojo posted...

They outed someone as being gay, and he's the one that was backing Hogan's court fees.

Trump and "a bunch of other billionaires" are not involved. It's just one billionaire, Peter Thiel, who Gawker did out as gay and who did fund Hogan's case, but not secretly.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/mattdrange/2016/06/21/peter-thiels-war-on-gawker-a-timeline/
But Gawker could have avoided this whole mess by simply *gasp* not violating Hogan's privacy. They brought this on their own heads and I'm amazed the documentary is even slightly on their side.
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I will be honest though, it is rather disturbing that a single billionaire was able to bring down an independent media group single handily, all due to a personal grudge.

I have zero sympathy for Gawker, and their actions absolutely should not be excused. Their first amendment rights were not violated; notice how the government did not imprison any Gawker executives. I think the fines they did have to pay were outrageous, but they had no moral ground to stand on, and I'm pretty sure they knew that.
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TheFuzz3451 posted...

I will be honest though, it is rather disturbing that a single billionaire was able to bring down an independent media group single handily, all due to a personal grudge.

He just paid for the lawyers. He didn't bribe the judges and he didn't force Gawker to commit the crime. Gawker would have been fine way back in 2012 if they had refused to post the video in response to the cease and desist letters they received from Hogan's lawyers. They also had 4 years to settle the case but didn't do so. They deserved everything they got.
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TheFuzz3451 posted...

I will be honest though, it is rather disturbing that a single billionaire was able to bring down an independent media group single handily, all due to a personal grudge.

No it isn't.

It's not like Thiel could have shut down Gawker on a whim. Gawker got smacked down because they thought they could get away with illegally exploiting a celebrity without many resources, but didn't count on their own shadiness catching up with them. Gawker absolutely got what they deserved.
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TheFuzz3451 posted...

I will be honest though, it is rather disturbing that a single billionaire was able to bring down an independent media group single handily, all due to a personal grudge.

I have zero sympathy for Gawker, and their actions absolutely should not be excused. Their first amendment rights were not violated; notice how the government did not imprison any Gawker executives. I think the fines they did have to pay were outrageous, but they had no moral ground to stand on, and I'm pretty sure they knew that.

Yep.

There's also a guy suing Techdirt:
https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2017/01/man-who-says-he-invented-e-mail-sues-techdirt-for-disputing-claim/

And he's being represented by the same lawyer who represented Hogan, which I would hazard a guess means he has the right connections.
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TheFuzz3451 posted...

I will be honest though, it is rather disturbing that a single billionaire was able to bring down an independent media group single handily, all due to a personal grudge.

Not really. All Thiel did was bankroll the case. Gawker pretty much brought themselves down by being stupid.
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I will not watch that documentary. Gawker was 100% in the wrong.

TheFuzz3451 posted...

I will be honest though, it is rather disturbing that a single billionaire was able to bring down an independent media group single handily, all due to a personal grudge.

I have zero sympathy for Gawker, and their actions absolutely should not be excused. Their first amendment rights were not violated; notice how the government did not imprison any Gawker executives. I think the fines they did have to pay were outrageous, but they had no moral ground to stand on, and I'm pretty sure they knew that.

This is about how I feel too. There isn't a good guy in this situation.

On one hand, fuck gawker. They created their own enemies by outing gay people and uploading sex tapes.

On the other hand I'm not a fan of someone having the power and money to take down a media company, even if it's someone as shitty as gawker. You shouldn't be able to essentially sue a company out of existence.

In the end this is a Netflix documentary, and those things are horridly biased. Look at making a murderer and all the evidence that documentary chose to ignore. I'm sure this will be the same.

I think another problem here too is that Trump's constant attacks on the press are indeed a problem. He questions their legitimacy and wants to limit want can be said by then. That is how communism starts. I think the Trump/media rivalry needs more attention or awareness from the average person but I don't think that way to achieve it is through a Gawker vs Hulk Hogan documentary.
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TheBiggerWiggle posted...

On the other hand I'm not a fan of someone having the power and money to take down a media company, even if it's someone as shitty as gawker. You shouldn't be able to essentially sue a company out of existence.

No one has enough money to sue a company out of existence, unless that company did something bad enough to warrant such punitive damages.

If Gawker didn't brazenly break the law like it did then they would still be around.
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