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RchHomieQuanChi 05/22/17 11:54:39 AM #1: |
The last time a studio tried to give us a standalone supervillain spinoff film that was completely unrelated to the property it came from...
We got Catwoman. --- I have nothing else to say ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Doom_Art 05/22/17 11:55:20 AM #2: |
why is it not in the fucking mcu
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LightHawKnight 05/22/17 11:55:31 AM #3: |
We get Bane as Venom though!
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RchHomieQuanChi 05/22/17 11:56:17 AM #4: |
Doom_Art posted...
why is it not in the fucking mcu Because Sony legit thinks they don't need Disney/Marvel Studios and this is their way of testing that. Lel. --- I have nothing else to say ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Smashingpmkns 05/22/17 11:56:30 AM #5: |
Tom Hardy hasn't done anything truly bad yet though
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LightHawKnight 05/22/17 11:57:18 AM #6: |
Smashingpmkns posted...
Tom Hardy hasn't done anything truly bad yet though Was a real crappy Bane, if only cause he wasn't Bane. --- The Official Odin of the Shin Megami Tensei IV board. "You know how confusing the whole good-evil concept is for me." ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Smashingpmkns 05/22/17 11:59:21 AM #7: |
LightHawKnight posted...
Smashingpmkns posted...Tom Hardy hasn't done anything truly bad yet though Meh the whole movie was ass in comparison to the others in the trilogy but his Bane wasn't necessarily bad. --- Posted with GameRaven 3.2 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LightHawKnight 05/22/17 12:02:43 PM #8: |
Smashingpmkns posted...
LightHawKnight posted...Smashingpmkns posted...Tom Hardy hasn't done anything truly bad yet though But it wasn't Bane. --- The Official Odin of the Shin Megami Tensei IV board. "You know how confusing the whole good-evil concept is for me." ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ChromaticAngel 05/22/17 12:02:49 PM #9: |
RchHomieQuanChi posted...
The last time a studio tried to give us a standalone supervillain spinoff film that was completely unrelated to the property it came from... I don't think it's completely unrelated to Spider-Man. It's still part of Sony's universe. Spider-Man isn't 100% MCU. Both Sony and Disney get to use him. Kind of like how Angel split off from Buffy in a different network so they drop references to Buffy occasionally but she almost never actually showed up and the lore was all the same for both shows. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LightHawKnight 05/22/17 12:03:37 PM #10: |
ChromaticAngel posted...
RchHomieQuanChi posted...The last time a studio tried to give us a standalone supervillain spinoff film that was completely unrelated to the property it came from... I thought Disney only gets 5 movies with Spider-Man, well at least for now. --- The Official Odin of the Shin Megami Tensei IV board. "You know how confusing the whole good-evil concept is for me." ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TheDarkCircle 05/22/17 12:04:03 PM #11: |
RchHomieQuanChi posted...
Doom_Art posted...why is it not in the fucking mcu Yeah they're thinking this is gonna be their Logan. Idk how this will turn out or not, but I'm not exactly jumping up and down about it. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ChromaticAngel 05/22/17 12:04:16 PM #12: |
LightHawKnight posted...
Smashingpmkns posted...LightHawKnight posted...Smashingpmkns posted...Tom Hardy hasn't done anything truly bad yet though Sure, but TDK Joker isn't Joker and everyone loved him anyway. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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darkprince45 05/22/17 12:04:23 PM #13: |
I thought it was in the same universe as spidey
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TheDarkCircle 05/22/17 12:05:47 PM #14: |
ChromaticAngel posted...
LightHawKnight posted...Smashingpmkns posted...LightHawKnight posted...Smashingpmkns posted...Tom Hardy hasn't done anything truly bad yet though He was great, it was a different take on Bane but Tom Hardy's performance itself was very good. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Smashingpmkns 05/22/17 12:06:22 PM #15: |
LightHawKnight posted...
Smashingpmkns posted...LightHawKnight posted... Heath Ledger's Joker really wasn't the Joker and its seen as the greatest adaptation if the Joker. Tom Hardy's Bane is still leagues ahead of the Bane we previously saw in Batman & Robin. Don't get me wrong, I think Rises was a huge disappointment but Tom Hardy's portrayal of Bane had nothing to do with that imo. He was probably the best part of the movie. --- Posted with GameRaven 3.2 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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pikachupwnage 05/22/17 12:09:40 PM #16: |
LightHawKnight posted...
Smashingpmkns posted...LightHawKnight posted...Smashingpmkns posted...Tom Hardy hasn't done anything truly bad yet though Yes it was. --- I'm Mary Poppins y'all. http://i2.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/665/328/d75.gif ... Copied to Clipboard!
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EvalAngell 05/22/17 12:09:42 PM #17: |
Spider-man will be mentioned in the movie and have some connection. this has been confirmed. He just won't appear in it.
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Terra-enforcer 05/22/17 12:12:00 PM #18: |
It's so fucking dumb. Venom is one of my favorite comic book villains when done right and he gets this treatment. Probably means he'll never be in the MCU. Can't Sony just realize Disney/Marvel Studios just does it better?
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ChromaticAngel 05/22/17 12:12:22 PM #19: |
pikachupwnage posted...
LightHawKnight posted...Smashingpmkns posted...LightHawKnight posted...Smashingpmkns posted...Tom Hardy hasn't done anything truly bad yet though They downplayed the most important aspects of his character and just made him evilbadguy --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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EnragedSlith 05/22/17 12:14:36 PM #20: |
ChromaticAngel posted...
pikachupwnage posted...LightHawKnight posted...Smashingpmkns posted...LightHawKnight posted...Smashingpmkns posted...Tom Hardy hasn't done anything truly bad yet though might be getting my villains mixed up, but I could have sworn that bane wasn't affiliated with the league of shadows. I thought that was Deathstroke's territory. Not sure why they didn't just give us the real bane. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Feline_Heart 05/22/17 12:14:52 PM #21: |
EvalAngell posted...
Spider-man will be mentioned in the movie and have some connection. this has been confirmed. He just won't appear in it. They're going with the Eddie Brock Venom when they should be going with the superior version: Flash Thompson Venom ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Tombawocxer 05/22/17 12:17:15 PM #22: |
will it lay down its soul to the god's rock n roll
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Questionmarktarius 05/22/17 12:17:32 PM #23: |
RchHomieQuanChi posted...
The last time a studio tried to give us a standalone supervillain spinoff film that was completely unrelated to the property it came from... But, Deadpool. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Nomadic View 05/22/17 12:18:19 PM #24: |
What studio is producing it?
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OctilIery 05/22/17 12:18:28 PM #25: |
LightHawKnight posted...
Smashingpmkns posted...LightHawKnight posted...Smashingpmkns posted...Tom Hardy hasn't done anything truly bad yet though Yes it was. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Feline_Heart 05/22/17 12:18:33 PM #26: |
Questionmarktarius posted...
RchHomieQuanChi posted...The last time a studio tried to give us a standalone supervillain spinoff film that was completely unrelated to the property it came from... Deadpool was always barely related to the X-men ... Copied to Clipboard!
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50Blessings 05/22/17 12:19:21 PM #27: |
Sony basically wants there Spider "universe" to be like the MCU TV universe I think.
You know they're shit might reference Spiders actions in the MCU but the MCU is just going to ignore everything in these spin off films. --- America is a tune. It must be sung together. --50 Blessings ... Copied to Clipboard!
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50Blessings 05/22/17 12:20:08 PM #28: |
*their
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Questionmarktarius 05/22/17 12:21:02 PM #29: |
50Blessings posted...
Sony basically wants there Spider "universe" to be like the MCU TV universe I think. The sooner it crashes and burns, the sooner Sony crawls back to Disney. ...aren't we due for Fox to make another Fantastic Four abomination? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ChromaticAngel 05/22/17 1:36:23 PM #30: |
Questionmarktarius posted...
50Blessings posted...Sony basically wants there Spider "universe" to be like the MCU TV universe I think. The first movie honestly wasn't even bad. I don't know why they just didn't do more of it. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Virus731 05/22/17 1:40:30 PM #31: |
I really can't understand how the movie will work without Spider-Man... I've never read any SM comics but who is Venom going to fight? Drug dealers? Terrorists? The government? I actually don't know.
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EvalAngell 05/22/17 1:46:43 PM #32: |
Virus731 posted...
I really can't understand how the movie will work without Spider-Man... I've never read any SM comics but who is Venom going to fight? Drug dealers? Terrorists? The government? I actually don't know. there's a whole comic series dedicated to him called "Venom: Lethal Protector." It's after him and Spider-man bury the hatchet temporarily. --- It's what's best for business. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Virus731 05/22/17 1:48:41 PM #33: |
EvalAngell posted...
Virus731 posted...I really can't understand how the movie will work without Spider-Man... I've never read any SM comics but who is Venom going to fight? Drug dealers? Terrorists? The government? I actually don't know. Why do they fight in the first place? Is it because Eddie is jealous of Spider-Man and is just a general ass because of it? Is Venom inherently a bad guy or is he more of an anti-hero? --- I hope this ****in' world ****in' burns away And I'd kill you all if I had my way ... Copied to Clipboard!
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EvalAngell 05/22/17 1:50:23 PM #34: |
He was a villain at first. The only reason the symbiote chose Eddie Brock is because they both shared a hatred for Spider-Man. But eventually They saw Spider-Man as a "necessary evil" and spared him. He then moved on and became an anti-hero. He's only a villain when facing Spider-Man. All other times he's a good guy.
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Jiek_Fafn 05/22/17 1:52:47 PM #35: |
Meh, I only really like Venom when he's wielding a big black hate boner for Spidey. Except Agent Venom. He's actually pretty cool.
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voldothegr8 05/22/17 1:53:04 PM #36: |
It could be good if it's rated R. People have a point though that it's a hard sell without Spiderman involved.
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Virus731 05/22/17 1:55:38 PM #37: |
After reading a bit more about him, I don't think I'm interested in Venom as a protagonist... especially with Tom Hardy playing him.
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LightHawKnight 05/22/17 2:03:21 PM #38: |
pikachupwnage posted...
LightHawKnight posted...Smashingpmkns posted...LightHawKnight posted...Smashingpmkns posted...Tom Hardy hasn't done anything truly bad yet though No he wasn't. Where is the Venom? Where is the Latino accent, background? Where is the excessive muscles that makes him a physical threat? --- The Official Odin of the Shin Megami Tensei IV board. "You know how confusing the whole good-evil concept is for me." ... Copied to Clipboard!
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EvalAngell 05/22/17 2:04:56 PM #39: |
LightHawKnight posted...
pikachupwnage posted...LightHawKnight posted...Smashingpmkns posted...LightHawKnight posted...Smashingpmkns posted...Tom Hardy hasn't done anything truly bad yet though You can't have that and keep the movie "grounded." I'm surprised that Scarecrow's fear toxin was even used in the Nolanverse. But it's somewhat believable because at least Crane is a doctor of medicine. --- It's what's best for business. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ArtVandelay 05/22/17 2:27:20 PM #40: |
EvalAngell posted...
You can't have that and keep the movie "grounded." I'm surprised that Scarecrow's fear toxin was even used in the Nolanverse. But it's somewhat believable because at least Crane is a doctor of medicine. well that, and his "fear toxin" is just a glorified, concentrated bad acid trip. not hard to believe at all. --- Vandelay Industries Importing & Exporting ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Virus731 05/22/17 2:35:09 PM #41: |
ArtVandelay posted...
EvalAngell posted...You can't have that and keep the movie "grounded." I'm surprised that Scarecrow's fear toxin was even used in the Nolanverse. But it's somewhat believable because at least Crane is a doctor of medicine. Yeah I've seen weirder shit on DMT than the fear toxin. --- I hope this ****in' world ****in' burns away And I'd kill you all if I had my way ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Slayerblade11 05/22/17 2:36:13 PM #42: |
There's gonna be a Venom movie wtf? Do they even know wtf they're doing?
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Zack_Attackv1 05/22/17 2:42:37 PM #43: |
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50Blessings 05/22/17 5:50:18 PM #44: |
Slayerblade11 posted...
There's gonna be a Venom movie wtf? Do they even know wtf they're doing? It's Sony so of course not. I mean, it isn't like they couldn't make a decent Venom movie, even without Spider-Man. But I doubt they will do it, especially if it's supposed to be some kind of horror movie. --- America is a tune. It must be sung together. --50 Blessings ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Darmik 05/22/17 6:07:05 PM #45: |
Yeah Sony doesn't know how to handle this superhero stuff at all. If Amazing Spider-man is anything to go by...
And at least Bane wasn't a dumb muscle grunt. He was probably the best interpretation of that character for a long time. Even the Animated Series was guilty of making Bane dumb muscle. Venom has been used as an excuse to remove what actually made his character compelling compared to Batman. That he was a tactical equal. --- Kind Regards, Darmik ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Mernardi 05/22/17 6:30:47 PM #48: |
All signs point toward a bad movie.
Spider-Man universe...with no Spider-Man? Sony trying to do their own universe? Trying to do an R-rated comic movie? This just has cash grab written all over it. --- Hifumi Togo > All ... Copied to Clipboard!
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EvalAngell 05/22/17 10:32:13 PM #49: |
Mernardi posted...
All signs point toward a bad movie. I don't think Tom Hardy is taking on the role if the movie was gonna be total dogshit. Actors typically pick and choose their roles and read the script beforehand. He's an A list actor. And I doubt he'd want to tarnish his career. --- It's what's best for business. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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RchHomieQuanChi 05/23/17 1:26:10 AM #50: |
Wow, didn't expect this topic to blow up the way it did honestly.
That being said, is it still within the Spider-Man universe? It's still not adding up for me. This movie is supposedly slated for next year, which gives them very little time, if any, to properly set up the symbiote storyline. The only real opportunity I can see of where Tom Holland's Spider-Man is getting the symbiote any time soon is during the events of Infinity War, but even then you still have to establish the relationship between Spider-Man and the symbiote, since the symbiote's scorn of Spider-Man for abandoning it is crucial to Venom's storyline, as is Eddie Brock's hatred of Peter, which I'm not sure how they're going to do it with Pete not even working for the Daily Bugle at this point in time. And on top of that, since this is a Venom spinoff film (with the assumption that Venom is to be the protagonist of this story), it'd also have to succeed the conflict between Spider-Man and Venom. They would have to pull some serious time skip shenanigans in order to have it make sense with the Spider-Man universe, and in doing so, you're basically skipping one of the most iconic Spider-Man storylines EVER. Why? And I get it. They want to make a Rated-R Venom film, which isn't inherently a bad idea, especially if they plan on making Carnage the main villain. And in order to do that, they'd have to distance themselves from MCU Spider-Man. But why not set up Venom proper as a bad guy in a Spider-Man film, then do a Venom film with very vague connections to the rest of the MCU, like how Deadpool and Logan did it? --- I have nothing else to say ... Copied to Clipboard!
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