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3rd_Best_Master
05/14/17 4:21:09 PM
#51:


Mal_Fet posted...
Their message is irrelevant.

To them? Cause if it was then they would have just stayed home or picked some other means of protest. So what do the torches signify? What were they trying to convey?
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Bio1590
05/14/17 4:21:14 PM
#52:


Isn't the message the entire point of a protest...
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Mal_Fet
05/14/17 4:25:05 PM
#53:


3rd_Best_Master posted...
To them? Cause if it was then they would have just stayed home or picked some other means of protest. So what do the torches signify? What were they trying to convey?

The torches signify discontent, historically speaking. And what they're trying to convey is obviously anger against the removal of a statue.

And, once again,

Mal_Fet posted...
Tell ya what, as soon as they do something violent, I'll be the first to declare them to be worse than Antifa. Until then, they are not worse than Antifa.

Fair?

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Microwaved_Eggs
05/14/17 4:28:03 PM
#54:


i love people who pretend to be so obtuse they cant see a connection between torches and people protesting getting rid of a confederate statue

cmon mal, you're smarter than this
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3rd_Best_Master
05/14/17 4:28:23 PM
#55:


Mal_Fet posted...
The torches signify discontent, historically speaking.

Mind elaborating here a bit? Discontent with what? And what do you mean, historically speaking? Is there some group, inspired by the statue and what it represents, that also has a history of voicing their discontent by merely standing idly by with torches? What was Spencer and his group trying to mirror?
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Mal_Fet
05/14/17 4:36:34 PM
#56:


3rd_Best_Master posted...
Mal_Fet posted...
The torches signify discontent, historically speaking.

Mind elaborating here a bit? Discontent with what? And what do you mean, historically speaking? Is there some group, inspired by the statue and what it represents, that also has a history of voicing their discontent by merely standing idly by with torches? What was Spencer and his group trying to mirror?

Obviously they're trying to illicit the KKK, but the torches were used in protests long before the US was even colonized., but this is all beside the point because in terms of comparing them to Antifa in terms of morality, their message doesn't matter.

Even so, the KKK is allowed to protest. Stalinists are allowed to protest. ISIS is allowed to protest. Protesting does not infringe on the rights of others. Where they cross a moral line is when they begin infringing on the rights of others, such as assaulting innocent people. That's why protesting is legal and assault is not.
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Doom_Art
05/14/17 4:39:35 PM
#57:


bit odd how mal only seems to ever defend far-right/white-nationalist protesters


only ones deemed worthy of his defense I suppose
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billcom6
05/14/17 4:40:24 PM
#58:


"Please don't take down the statue of this traitorous loser!!!!"
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Microwaved_Eggs
05/14/17 4:40:32 PM
#59:


Doom_Art posted...
bit odd how mal only seems to ever defend far-right/white-nationalist protesters


only ones deemed worthy of his defense I suppose

shhhhhhhhhh
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billcom6
05/14/17 4:41:05 PM
#60:


Mal_Fet posted...
They're still better than protesters who assault people.

"Who cares about these racists, I should bring up that thing that's not actually related to this topic!"
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KingCrabCake
05/14/17 4:42:19 PM
#61:


Called it. Knew once people craddled to the snowflakes about the flag that they would set their eyes on statues and monuments...lol

What a waste of time and money removing history from America.
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Doom_Art
05/14/17 4:42:43 PM
#62:


Microwaved_Eggs posted...
shhhhhhhhhh

"They're protesting for a just cause, unlike all those other liberal whiners"
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CruelBuffalo
05/14/17 4:43:21 PM
#63:


cjsdowg posted...
scorpion41 posted...
Good. We should be teaching history, not trying to erase it. Funny how it was only after Dylan Roof shot up that church that people actually starting caring about the confederate flag and the various Civil War monuments. They were fine before, but someone needed a crusade...


People have been talking about this way before Dylan Roof. The fact that you don't know this , yet you claim to give a shit about history is very telling.

CowboyDan posted...
Are people here really claiming that no one cared what the CSA did before Roof? It's almost amazing how deep human stupidity goes.
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Mal_Fet
05/14/17 4:43:24 PM
#64:


Doom_Art posted...
bit odd how mal only seems to ever defend far-right/white-nationalist protesters


only ones deemed worthy of his defense I suppose

Ever notice how dim-witted people can only distinguish between black and white? They can't comprehend that one thing can be worse than another and both are still bad?
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Doom_Art
05/14/17 4:43:30 PM
#65:


KingCrabCake posted...
What a waste of time and money removing history from America.

Last I checked the Civil War and Confederacy is still taught in schools.
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3rd_Best_Master
05/14/17 4:44:23 PM
#66:


Mal_Fet posted...
3rd_Best_Master posted...
Mal_Fet posted...
The torches signify discontent, historically speaking.

Mind elaborating here a bit? Discontent with what? And what do you mean, historically speaking? Is there some group, inspired by the statue and what it represents, that also has a history of voicing their discontent by merely standing idly by with torches? What was Spencer and his group trying to mirror?

Obviously they're trying to illicit the KKK, but the torches were used in protests long before the US was even colonized., but this is all beside the point because in terms of comparing them to Antifa in terms of morality, their message doesn't matter.

Even so, the KKK is allowed to protest. Stalinists are allowed to protest. ISIS is allowed to protest. Protesting does not infringe on the rights of others. Where they cross a moral line is when they begin infringing on the rights of others, such as assaulting innocent people. That's why protesting is legal and assault is not.

Bro, nobody brought up punching except for you. Care getting back on topic or are you really that afraid of condemning a group that's purposefully conjuring up KKK imagery? Why would you even deflect from what's actually being discussed in the topic at all?
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Microwaved_Eggs
05/14/17 4:44:31 PM
#67:


Mal_Fet posted...
Doom_Art posted...
bit odd how mal only seems to ever defend far-right/white-nationalist protesters


only ones deemed worthy of his defense I suppose

Ever notice how dim-witted people can only distinguish between black and white? They can't comprehend that one thing can be worse than another and both are still bad?

ive never seen you defend non violent antifas.

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KingCrabCake
05/14/17 4:45:05 PM
#68:


cjsdowg posted...
Mal_Fet posted...
They're still better than protesters who assault people.


Mal Literally defending Nazis waving around torches.


Theyre not Nazis. Good job proving the point that anyone who disagrees with a lefty is a nazi lmao
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3rd_Best_Master
05/14/17 4:45:36 PM
#69:


KingCrabCake posted...
Called it. Knew once people craddled to the snowflakes about the flag that they would set their eyes on statues and monuments...lol

What a waste of time and money removing history from America.

Does Germany have statues honoring Hitler right on their streets? What happened to all of those statues of Saddam once the man was executed?
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Butterfiles
05/14/17 4:46:26 PM
#70:


Doom_Art posted...
bit odd how mal only seems to ever defend far-right/white-nationalist protesters


only ones deemed worthy of his defense I suppose

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KingCrabCake
05/14/17 4:46:32 PM
#71:


Doom_Art posted...
KingCrabCake posted...
What a waste of time and money removing history from America.

Last I checked the Civil War and Confederacy is still taught in schools.


Last i checked little babies where crying that harmless statues are up and wanting to remove them from history.
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billcom6
05/14/17 4:47:12 PM
#72:


The only funny thing about this is people calling this a "candle lit" vigil lol.
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KingCrabCake
05/14/17 4:47:40 PM
#73:


3rd_Best_Master posted...
KingCrabCake posted...
Called it. Knew once people craddled to the snowflakes about the flag that they would set their eyes on statues and monuments...lol

What a waste of time and money removing history from America.

Does Germany have statues honoring Hitler right on their streets? What happened to all of those statues of Saddam once the man was executed?


They're not even close to being the same. Nice try. Gotta love the left and how they think that by comparing everything they dislike to Nazi Germany is somehow a way to make and win an argument.
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Doom_Art
05/14/17 4:48:12 PM
#74:


KingCrabCake posted...
Last i checked little babies where crying that harmless statues are up

It's a part of history that people don't want to celebrate.

KingCrabCake posted...
wanting to remove them from history.

Again, last I checked all this stuff is still taught in school.
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Antifar
05/14/17 4:49:19 PM
#75:


KingCrabCake posted...
They're not even close to being the same.

How so?
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gamepimp12
05/14/17 4:49:29 PM
#76:


So they can stand in front of statues in intimidate people from taking them down

But college students can't intimidate milo from holding an event ?
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3rd_Best_Master
05/14/17 4:51:05 PM
#77:


KingCrabCake posted...
3rd_Best_Master posted...
KingCrabCake posted...
Called it. Knew once people craddled to the snowflakes about the flag that they would set their eyes on statues and monuments...lol

What a waste of time and money removing history from America.

Does Germany have statues honoring Hitler right on their streets? What happened to all of those statues of Saddam once the man was executed?


They're not even close to being the same. Nice try. Gotta love the left and how they think that by comparing everything they dislike to Nazi Germany is somehow a way to make and win an argument.

Care to elaborate on the differences or are you just going to imitate Mal and make specious comments all topic long?
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Microwaved_Eggs
05/14/17 4:51:09 PM
#78:


@KingCrabCake posted...
cjsdowg posted...
Mal_Fet posted...
They're still better than protesters who assault people.


Mal Literally defending Nazis waving around torches.


Theyre not Nazis. Good job proving the point that anyone who disagrees with a lefty is a nazi lmao



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Spencer, Richard Bertrand. Facing the Future As a Minority.

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"Ours, too, should be a declaration of difference and distance—"We hold these truths to be self-evident; that all men are created unequal." In the wake of the old world, this will be our proposition."
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SiO4
05/14/17 4:52:32 PM
#79:


Liberty, in NYC..

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KingCrabCake
05/14/17 4:52:35 PM
#80:


Doom_Art posted...
KingCrabCake posted...
Last i checked little babies where crying that harmless statues are up

It's a part of history that people don't want to celebrate.

KingCrabCake posted...
wanting to remove them from history.

Again, last I checked all this stuff is still taught in school.


People do want to celebrate it...thus the protests

And yes for now it is. Just like when the flag was beimg taken down and the Left was crying how the south still has their statues....
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KingCrabCake
05/14/17 4:54:05 PM
#81:


Antifar posted...
KingCrabCake posted...
They're not even close to being the same.

How so?


Waaah i dont like them...theyee like hitler.

Lee was a man....Hitler was a man...

Thus theyre the same
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3rd_Best_Master
05/14/17 4:55:14 PM
#82:


So he went the Mal approach.
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KingCrabCake
05/14/17 4:57:52 PM
#84:


3rd_Best_Master posted...
So he went the Mal approach.


Sure.

Lee wasnt someone trying to take over the world and killing people just for fun.

Sorry i dont entertain stupid questions made by people who are constantly wrong
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Microwaved_Eggs
05/14/17 4:58:17 PM
#85:


@KingCrabCake

https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Richard_Bertrand_Spencer
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3rd_Best_Master
05/14/17 4:59:04 PM
#86:


At least you acknowledge the implicit nonsense in your comment. Can't even explain how they're not similar, just bluster and bullshit.
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Bio1590
05/14/17 4:59:06 PM
#87:


Watchinng people defend a monument to a known traitor and racist is 10/10 comedy.
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MangaFan462
05/14/17 4:59:57 PM
#88:


Theyre still more peaceful than BLM and Antifa.
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Mal_Fet
05/14/17 5:00:27 PM
#89:


3rd_Best_Master posted...

Bro, nobody brought up punching except for you. Care getting back on topic or are you really that afraid of condemning a group that's purposefully conjuring up KKK imagery? Why would you even deflect from what's actually being discussed in the topic at all?

I condemn Nazis and racists of all sorts. There ya go.

Just wanted to point out that a nonviolent Nazi is still better than a violent commie. No need to get so upset.
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KingCrabCake
05/14/17 5:01:25 PM
#90:


Also unlike Hitler, Lee straight up helped the country come back together after the war.

Microwaved_Eggs posted...
KingCrabCake

https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Richard_Bertrand_Spencer

Please dont tag me anymore
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KingCrabCake
05/14/17 5:01:53 PM
#91:


3rd_Best_Master posted...
At least you acknowledge the implicit nonsense in your comment. Can't even explain how they're not similar, just bluster and bullshit.

You can't explain how they are. So theres that.
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3rd_Best_Master
05/14/17 5:02:34 PM
#92:


KingCrabCake posted...
Also unlike Hitler, Lee straight up helped the country come back together after the war.

There's more of that disingenuous shitposting I've come to know on CE.
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KingCrabCake
05/14/17 5:02:44 PM
#93:


Bio1590 posted...
Watchinng people defend a monument to a known traitor and racist is 10/10 comedy.


He was opposed slavery though....
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Antifar
05/14/17 5:03:55 PM
#94:


It seems to me that both Nazi Germany and the Confederacy
- promoted a brutal, racially based regime of violence, which celebrated whites while subjugating other groups to systematic state-endorsed violence
- Were short-lived owing to war-time losses.
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KingCrabCake
05/14/17 5:03:58 PM
#95:


3rd_Best_Master posted...
KingCrabCake posted...
Also unlike Hitler, Lee straight up helped the country come back together after the war.

There's more of that disingenuous shitposting I've come to know on CE.


See this is why any type of discussion with any liberal is pointless
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KingCrabCake
05/14/17 5:04:55 PM
#97:


Antifar posted...
It seems to me that both Nazi Germany and the Confederacy
- promoted a brutal, racially based regime of violence, which celebrated whites while subjugating other groups to systematic state-endorsed violence
- Were short-lived owing to war-time losses.


Lee was against slavery

Lee was also a huge reason why the North and South came back together after the war
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Microwaved_Eggs
05/14/17 5:05:22 PM
#98:


what the hell lmao
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KingCrabCake
05/14/17 5:05:44 PM
#99:


Microwaved_Eggs posted...
KingCrabCake posted...
Bio1590 posted...
Watchinng people defend a monument to a known traitor and racist is 10/10 comedy.


He was opposed slavery though....

ok whose alt is this. no one is this stupid


Its well documented ...get the fuck off gamefaqs and read a history book or even Google it
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Microwaved_Eggs
05/14/17 5:07:57 PM
#100:


KingCrabCake posted...
Microwaved_Eggs posted...
KingCrabCake posted...
Bio1590 posted...
Watchinng people defend a monument to a known traitor and racist is 10/10 comedy.


He was opposed slavery though....

ok whose alt is this. no one is this stupid


Its well documented ...get the fuck off gamefaqs and read a history book or even Google it

dude owned slaves lmao
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Lightsasori
05/14/17 5:08:29 PM
#101:


E32005 posted...
you dont need to erase it, put it in a museum. case closed.


This.
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Antifar
05/14/17 5:08:58 PM
#102:


KingCrabCake posted...
Lee was against slavery

He led an army that enslaved people.
http://www.post-gazette.com/news/state/2013/06/30/Confederates-slave-hunt-in-North-a-military-disgrace/stories/201306300221

His personal views are less important than his actions, which profited off of and furthered the cause of slavery.
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