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implement their own version of sharia law? You know, if we didn't have a separation of church and state in America? Whenever they start going on about their "religious freedoms" I start to wonder.

Back in the day they used to kill people all the time in the name of the lord. Burned all those "witches" and all that. :v If we didn't have the government to hold them back would they still be doing that?

Wonder what they'd do to the Mormons. I think a lot of Christians dislike Mormonism in general.

Christians in general? No.

The religious right? Yup.
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I'm not sure honestly.

Microwaved_Eggs posted...

Christians in general? No.

The religious right? Yup.

The religious right is nuts.

Maybe Westboro Baptist, but in general no.
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There are crazy people in the minority in every group known to man that takes what the group stands for to the extreme.
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of course they would.

we already had the holy roman empire

any time an unwavering belief is in power death follows.
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E32005 posted...

of course they would.

we already had the holy roman empire

any time an unwavering belief is in power death follows.

Thank God for the separation of church and state. The conservatives keep trying to get rid of it though. We have to stop them.

It wouldn't be anywhere near as bad, but I certainly wouldn't want it.
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foreveraIone posted...

It wouldn't be anywhere near as bad,

It would.
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foreveraIone posted...

It wouldn't be anywhere near as bad, but I certainly wouldn't want it.

it was actually pretty bad for those witches that got burned alive or tied to logs and thrown out to sea. :v

Didn't they already do this for like, centuries?
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No offense. But that happened hundreds of years ago.
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foreveraIone posted...

No offense. But that happened hundreds of years ago.

what changed about Christianity to make them less likely to do it though?

I didn't think believing in witches was a modern christian belief.
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Oh you have 20 karma. Why am I responding to you?
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Melonfarms posted...

I didn't think believing in witches was a modern christian belief.

They thought pokemon and harry potter were corrupting the children like, less than decade a ago. :v

I guess so. I remember the Harry Potter and "Promoting Witchcraft" thing but I don't remember anything about Pokemon specifically.
Was there any violence involved with the crazies being against children's entertainment?
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E32005 posted...

of course they would.

we already had the holy roman empire

any time an unwavering belief is in power death follows.

The Holy Roman Empire wasn't a theocratic state, you know.
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Melonfarms posted...

I guess so. I remember the Harry Potter and "Promoting Witchcraft" thing but I don't remember anything about Pokemon specifically.
Was there any violence involved with the crazies being against children's entertainment?

I can't remember. I know they did a lot of book burnings.

I mean, some already do use religion as reason to push or keep current laws.

Doubt many would turn extreme with it but imagine it'd get worse than currently is at least.
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christianity was never about that kind of stuff. it was all completely incompatible with what christ preached in the new testament.

QuantumScript posted...

christianity was never about that kind of stuff. it was all completely incompatible with what christ preached in the new testament.

then why did they kill so many people in the past over it? The new testament was around back then too.

rerkid posted...

There are crazy people in the minority in every group known to man that takes what the group stands for to the extreme.

When that group is big enough, terrible things happen, I mean just look at history.
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AugustAdoulin posted...

QuantumScript posted...

christianity was never about that kind of stuff. it was all completely incompatible with what christ preached in the new testament.

then why did they kill so many people in the past over it? The new testament was around back then too.

because most people didn't have access to the new testament until after the printing press put it into circulation, so for a long time they just listened to what the pope would say.

and like with any ideology, there were always weird extremists who did weird shit. the difference though is that none of it was consistent with what christ preached. whereas with islam, muhammad did preach a lot of awful shit.

QuantumScript posted...

because most people didn't have access to the new testament until after the printing press put it into circulation, so for a long time they just listened to what the pope would say

<_< I have my doubts about that, but I'm not a historian.

AugustAdoulin posted...

QuantumScript posted...

because most people didn't have access to the new testament until after the printing press put it into circulation, so for a long time they just listened to what the pope would say

<_< I have my doubts about that, but I'm not a historian.

it's a pretty basic fact. if you admit to being ignorant about history, maybe you shouldn't shitpost with your fake doubts lol.

christians had to rely on what priests and kings would tell them about the bible. the laypeople did not have access to the source material, both because it was hard to come by and because most people didn't know how to read.

Yes. No question whatsoever. Yes yes yes. We've had plenty of laws whose literal only justification is "God said so."
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dolomedes posted...

you're saying that all the bad shit christianity did stopped with the invention of the printing press? lol ok

that's when it started to die down big time. if you start reading the writing from the time, you'll see that a lot of people began publishing materials that started shaping christian understanding. it wasn't an overnight thing, though, because people had to be careful with what they said and how they said it. the papacy and establishment remained powerful for a long time afterwards, but once people began reading the text for themselves en masse things would never stay the same.

and i'll repeat that none of that bad shit was consistent with what christ preached.

QuantumScript posted...

dolomedes posted...

you're saying that all the bad shit christianity did stopped with the invention of the printing press? lol ok

that's when it started to die down big time. if you start reading the writing from the time, you'll see that a lot of people began publishing materials that started shaping christian understanding. it wasn't an overnight thing, though, because people had to be careful with what they said and how they said it. the papacy and establishment remained powerful for a long time afterwards, but once people began reading the text for themselves en masse things would never stay the same.

and i'll repeat that none of that bad shit was consistent with what christ preached.

Then why did Christians burn the witches? Wasn't that after the printing press?

AugustAdoulin posted...

QuantumScript posted...

dolomedes posted...

you're saying that all the bad shit christianity did stopped with the invention of the printing press? lol ok

that's when it started to die down big time. if you start reading the writing from the time, you'll see that a lot of people began publishing materials that started shaping christian understanding. it wasn't an overnight thing, though, because people had to be careful with what they said and how they said it. the papacy and establishment remained powerful for a long time afterwards, but once people began reading the text for themselves en masse things would never stay the same.

and i'll repeat that none of that bad shit was consistent with what christ preached.

Then why did Christians burn the witches? Wasn't that after the printing press?

yeah, but it was in the middle of nowhere amongst a bunch of isolated crazies. nothing to do with what christ preached. it was more an example of mass hysteria and delusion.

The US seems to have enough right wing politicians to love doing that! :(
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AugustAdoulin posted...

QuantumScript posted...

dolomedes posted...

you're saying that all the bad shit christianity did stopped with the invention of the printing press? lol ok

that's when it started to die down big time. if you start reading the writing from the time, you'll see that a lot of people began publishing materials that started shaping christian understanding. it wasn't an overnight thing, though, because people had to be careful with what they said and how they said it. the papacy and establishment remained powerful for a long time afterwards, but once people began reading the text for themselves en masse things would never stay the same.

and i'll repeat that none of that bad shit was consistent with what christ preached.

Then why did Christians burn the witches? Wasn't that after the printing press?

it took awhile before the common man could actually read

But irregardless of this

The Salem witch trials were a series of hearings and prosecutions of people accused of witchcraft in colonial Massachusetts between February 1692 and May 1693.

This, the first major period of Bible translation into the English language, began with the introduction of the Tyndale Bible. The first complete edition of his New Testament was in 1526.

It hadn't been very long for the readable bible to circulate when Salem happened let alone for most of that society to be educated to read. Before this the bible was in latin, and even today only the super super educated (or those who specifically choose to learn it) can read latin.
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It depends on the sect.

7th Day Adventists , Episcopalians and Protestants, alongside other sects practice a bit differently. So how we'd be under their theocracy would differ.

Difficult to say. Most modern Christian communities are already pretty modernized, so the idea of creating a wide-scale theocracy may not lead anywhere. Then again, get the right people leading the movement, and one might develop if given the chance. A sort of anti-renaissance.
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