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Haldol
05/07/17 5:12:55 PM
#101:


MARKINGRAM22 posted...
Haldol posted...
legendarylemur posted...
Seriously... it's an old woman. Shooting somebody is still only truly justified if the trespasser is a threat. An old woman? What's she gonna do, make your ears bleed to death? Don't say yes

Any one who wonders onto your property as boldly as she did is a threat potentially

I'm sure of one of those black teens rolled up on her property people would expect then to be shot


It was an old lady complaining about noise...what the fuck is going on. The guy didn't defend himself in anyway he body slammed her as everyone laughed which could easily kill a person that age and threw in the water. He didn't try to detain her he assaulted her for shits and giggles.

So if one of those black teens walked into your yard, would you detain them and politely ask them to leave??
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Kirby
05/07/17 5:15:55 PM
#104:


Haldol posted...
legendarylemur posted...
Seriously... it's an old woman. Shooting somebody is still only truly justified if the trespasser is a threat. An old woman? What's she gonna do, make your ears bleed to death? Don't say yes

Any one who wonders onto your property as boldly as she did is a threat potentially

I'm sure of one of those black teens rolled up on her property people would expect then to be shot


Only CE could defend a black man assaulting a white woman by saying "If she was black she would have been shot."
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gamepimp12
05/07/17 5:16:38 PM
#105:


On one hand she was trespassing assuming it's private property ..... she's wasn't invited and was most def asked to leave.


On the other hand throwing her in the pool just opens up a whole another can of worms


Also are there noise ordinance rules for mid day ?
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Ammonitida
05/07/17 5:18:02 PM
#106:


MARKINGRAM22 posted...
Capn Circus posted...
Haldol posted...
legendarylemur posted...
Seriously... it's an old woman. Shooting somebody is still only truly justified if the trespasser is a threat. An old woman? What's she gonna do, make your ears bleed to death? Don't say yes

Any one who wonders onto your property as boldly as she did is a threat potentially

I'm sure of one of those black teens rolled up on her property people would expect then to be shot


This was not their property. It's obviously a community pool.


Yeah we are kinda just going with the fact someone said it was their property even though that doesn't look the case.


It's a pool located inside an apartment complex. If she lived there, then she had every right to be there. So all the defenders have left are her two harmless little dogs (lol).

To be fair though, I just noticed that the video is titled "Elderly White Woman". I don't see any evidence that race played any role here, and this suggests that the guy who uploaded the video is attempting to fan the flames of hate. Some were triggered by this and responded irrationally.
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MARKINGRAM22
05/07/17 5:19:05 PM
#107:


Haldol posted...
MARKINGRAM22 posted...
Haldol posted...
legendarylemur posted...
Seriously... it's an old woman. Shooting somebody is still only truly justified if the trespasser is a threat. An old woman? What's she gonna do, make your ears bleed to death? Don't say yes

Any one who wonders onto your property as boldly as she did is a threat potentially

I'm sure of one of those black teens rolled up on her property people would expect then to be shot


It was an old lady complaining about noise...what the fuck is going on. The guy didn't defend himself in anyway he body slammed her as everyone laughed which could easily kill a person that age and threw in the water. He didn't try to detain her he assaulted her for shits and giggles.

So if one of those black teens walked into your yard, would you detain them and politely ask them to leave??


To complain about noise? No I wouldn't detain them wtf? Also, a better example would be another old lady cause obviously a young man of any race presents a significantly bigger threat than an old fucking lady...AND STILL I wouldn't "detain" them which isn't in any way what happened in that video you lunatic. Body slamming an old lady onto concrete and throwing her in a pool wasn't detaining you idiots.

I love how you make you question as ambiguous as possible and relate a young male to an old lady. "Walked into yard" with no other context...of course if someone walked on my yard I wouldn't assault them or be physical at all if it was just to complain about something...especially if it was an old lady. You are just a lunatic holy shit.
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MARKINGRAM22
05/07/17 5:21:17 PM
#108:


All this said btw...there is zero evidence this is private property. Not that she presented any threat, the use of force could be defined as trying to detain someone, or that the people were fearful at all.
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Andrew21044
05/07/17 5:21:33 PM
#109:


Those teenagers didn't handle the situation very well.

She could have easily drowned and they could've easily avoided the police being involved.
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MARKINGRAM22
05/07/17 5:24:25 PM
#110:


Andrew21044 posted...
Those teenagers didn't handle the situation very well.

She could have easily drowned and they could've easily avoided the police being involved.


Fuck the drowning being slammed like that at that age could kill them. My dad was fucked up for a year for tripping down the bottom of his stairs. He is way less brittle and the fall was much less than that.

The real troubling part is how the entire party rooted for it and just ran after the assault...no one helping. With fucking kids there. Great cycle, fuck.
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gamepimp12
05/07/17 5:28:19 PM
#111:


MARKINGRAM22 posted...
Andrew21044 posted...
Those teenagers didn't handle the situation very well.

She could have easily drowned and they could've easily avoided the police being involved.


Fuck the drowning being slammed like that at that age could kill them. My dad was fucked up for a year for tripping down the bottom of his stairs. He is way less brittle and the fall was much less than that.

The real troubling part is how the entire party rooted for it and just ran after the assault...no one helping. With fucking kids there. Great cycle, fuck.


In crowds defense they wanted her in the pool, not body slammed
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MARKINGRAM22
05/07/17 5:29:24 PM
#112:


Seems some people aren't posting anymore cause they have an idea they were off base. I don't want to just fight. Just think if that was your mom or grandma, just look at it without biases cause you might have issue with a hypocrite on the other extreme. Just give it some more thought.
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MARKINGRAM22
05/07/17 5:30:22 PM
#113:


gamepimp12 posted...
MARKINGRAM22 posted...
Andrew21044 posted...
Those teenagers didn't handle the situation very well.

She could have easily drowned and they could've easily avoided the police being involved.


Fuck the drowning being slammed like that at that age could kill them. My dad was fucked up for a year for tripping down the bottom of his stairs. He is way less brittle and the fall was much less than that.

The real troubling part is how the entire party rooted for it and just ran after the assault...no one helping. With fucking kids there. Great cycle, fuck.


In crowds defense they wanted her in the pool, not body slammed


Obviously cause throwing her in the pool is the most simple thing if you are scared and want to detain someone.
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Tryhaptaward
05/07/17 5:30:51 PM
#114:


That thug also sexually harassed her, he should be seriously charged
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gamepimp12
05/07/17 5:32:20 PM
#115:


MARKINGRAM22 posted...
Seems some people aren't posting anymore cause they have an idea they were off base. I don't want to just fight. Just think if that was your mom or grandma, just look at it without biases cause you might have issue with a hypocrite on the other extreme. Just give it some more thought.


My mom or grandma wouldn't of done that they would of sent their husband or son.

The overbaring elderly white woman is a common stereotype
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Borgnar
05/07/17 5:32:27 PM
#116:


hoping trump steps in and LOCKS HIM UP

Its OUR TURN NOW
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gamepimp12
05/07/17 5:35:36 PM
#117:


MARKINGRAM22 posted...
gamepimp12 posted...
MARKINGRAM22 posted...
Andrew21044 posted...
Those teenagers didn't handle the situation very well.

She could have easily drowned and they could've easily avoided the police being involved.


Fuck the drowning being slammed like that at that age could kill them. My dad was fucked up for a year for tripping down the bottom of his stairs. He is way less brittle and the fall was much less than that.

The real troubling part is how the entire party rooted for it and just ran after the assault...no one helping. With fucking kids there. Great cycle, fuck.


In crowds defense they wanted her in the pool, not body slammed


Obviously cause throwing her in the pool is the most simple thing if you are scared and want to detain someone.


What didn't say anything about detaining her ?

She was annoying and possibly trespassing so they threw her in the pool. It's obviously still assault, but body slamming her could of been murder.

No one asked for that .

Not that I'm defending the idea of throwing her in the pool it's stupid, but body slamming her then throwing her in the pool is exceptionally stupid
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Sexypwnstar
05/07/17 5:35:39 PM
#118:


eston posted...
Some of you are incredibly fucking stupid if you think that's how trespassing laws work

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Ooooooohhhhh
05/07/17 5:42:22 PM
#119:


Pretty dumb of that guy to pick her up like that, he could have cracker her skull falling like that worst case

That was foolish of her to intrude like that and think she'd have any say in the volume. Absolutely foolish. Not even cops showing up the first time usually does the trick. One time the cops showed up three times to one of our parties when i was a kid, idk why she thought she could have any say in it especially when its broad daylight out there.....
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Haldol
05/07/17 5:45:50 PM
#120:


Kirby posted...
Haldol posted...
legendarylemur posted...
Seriously... it's an old woman. Shooting somebody is still only truly justified if the trespasser is a threat. An old woman? What's she gonna do, make your ears bleed to death? Don't say yes

Any one who wonders onto your property as boldly as she did is a threat potentially

I'm sure of one of those black teens rolled up on her property people would expect then to be shot


Only CE could defend a black man assaulting a white woman by saying "If she was black she would have been shot."

Sorry. Too bad white racists fucked up the climate so bad or else we wouldn't even be having this discussion.

Maybe they should stop shooting so many black teens for petty reasons and defending them
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Maze_
05/07/17 5:46:28 PM
#121:


Honestly worse than being dumped in the pool is the way that guy drops her on her head onto concrete

That could have been serious
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cjsdowg
05/07/17 5:48:35 PM
#122:


yem69420 posted...
lol the guy that did this so SO f***ed, especially if the woman or dogs got injured

keep on being CE and being like "she was trespassing" lol, yeah she was trying NOT to have to get the cops involved, which party people see as a favor in most instances.

I mean think/say what you want on here, but in the end, the guy in the red shirt is f***ed for felonious assault and animal cruelty at the least, if he has priors he'll probably do a 3 stretch, the old rich lady will sue the s*** out him and win, so that he will forever have his felon salary garnished at mcdonalds or some oil change place since he can't get a job anywhere else now. All to look funny in front of some ho's or to gain "street cred".

CE is gonna CE, but that is the reality of the situation



So white people don't have the follow the laws in your world ?
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Tryhaptaward
05/07/17 5:55:15 PM
#123:


Haldol posted...
Kirby posted...
Haldol posted...
legendarylemur posted...
Seriously... it's an old woman. Shooting somebody is still only truly justified if the trespasser is a threat. An old woman? What's she gonna do, make your ears bleed to death? Don't say yes

Any one who wonders onto your property as boldly as she did is a threat potentially

I'm sure of one of those black teens rolled up on her property people would expect then to be shot


Only CE could defend a black man assaulting a white woman by saying "If she was black she would have been shot."

Sorry. Too bad white racists fucked up the climate so bad or else we wouldn't even be having this discussion.

Maybe they should stop shooting so many black teens for petty reasons and defending them


lol this is like stereotyping black people as thugs and avoiding them on the street

fuck off you racist
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Haldol
05/07/17 5:59:14 PM
#124:


Tryhaptaward posted...
Haldol posted...
Kirby posted...
Haldol posted...
legendarylemur posted...
Seriously... it's an old woman. Shooting somebody is still only truly justified if the trespasser is a threat. An old woman? What's she gonna do, make your ears bleed to death? Don't say yes

Any one who wonders onto your property as boldly as she did is a threat potentially

I'm sure of one of those black teens rolled up on her property people would expect then to be shot


Only CE could defend a black man assaulting a white woman by saying "If she was black she would have been shot."

Sorry. Too bad white racists fucked up the climate so bad or else we wouldn't even be having this discussion.

Maybe they should stop shooting so many black teens for petty reasons and defending them


lol this is like stereotyping black people as thugs and avoiding them on the street

fuck off you racist

Not really smart guy

Notice the part where I specifically said "white Racists". They fucked up this country

You're so smart
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WizardPowers
05/07/17 6:06:51 PM
#125:


I would have been fine with it if the dumbass didn't fall over, slamming her head into the ground.

That would have been a little funny. This is just sad.
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yem69420
05/07/17 6:08:55 PM
#126:


cjsdowg posted...
So white people don't have the follow the laws in your world ?


the only law I saw broken was the lady getting assaulted

Sexypwnstar posted...
eston posted...
Some of you are incredibly fucking stupid if you think that's how trespassing laws work


Again, wasn't private property (or if it was it was communal, there were like at least 2 buildings connected to it).

No more arguing to be done, you keep on asking stupid ass questions like that, I'm gonna start giving you stupid ass answers like "no I don't think white people should have to follow the law".
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Darmik
05/07/17 6:23:08 PM
#127:


Is there a news report about this?

This topic is complete trash. You'd have to be a complete garbage person to defend that behavior. They're lucky something worse didn't end up happening.

You can clearly see the pool entrance is open to that street. It looks like she complained about the party while taking her dogs for a walk.
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3rd_Best_Master
05/07/17 6:31:51 PM
#128:


Ammonitida posted...
3rd_Best_Master posted...
Wolf_J_Flywheel posted...
cjsdowg posted...
andel posted...

self defense only applies if you are being attacked. another l for you, most cemen of cemen lmao


She came into someone's lawn with dogs.. that would scare most people.

I'm going to remember that you feel it's ok for large group of people of one race to be in fear and act violently to an outnumbered single person of another race. I'm sure I'll need to remind in a future topic.

If that lone person shows up with weapons in anticipation of a fight that they're the ones instigating, then sure bring it up to your hearts content.


Except that she didn't show up with any "weapons" that could justify that barbaric assault. Those were two little dogs, probably there to act as a shield (as in, who would attack an old lady who is walking her two little dogs?).

There's nothing wrong with confronting your rude neighbors over loud music before resorting to police action. And doesn't your ilk worry about police interacting with black teens? She was trying to spare them that.

You can get an infection no matter the size of the breed. There's a reason why cops just shoot the things in the face.
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SwordMaster13X
05/07/17 6:39:45 PM
#129:


This topic is trash.

The jackass who slammed her into the concrete and then into the pool is an idiot. Seriously what was he thinking? There was no reason to do that.

But also what was the women thinking going into a party where there had to be at least one hundred people in it? There is strength in numbers. No one is going to shut down the music if one person saids no while hundreds of others say yes. She was outnumbered one hundred to one. She should have just called the cops to handle this. There was no way she could have handled this by herself. Still she should have not been slammed and thrown into the pool.
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Dabrikishaw15
05/07/17 6:49:52 PM
#130:


Mernardi posted...
I'm out. Too many goddamn sociopaths in this topic.

Yeah. I don't get why anyone's said half the shit they did towards the old woman. Even if she wasn't in the right, that doesn't justify this.
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Capn Circus
05/07/17 6:52:21 PM
#131:


SwordMaster13X posted...
This topic is trash.

The jackass who slammed her into the concrete and then into the pool is an idiot. Seriously what was he thinking? There was no reason to do that.

But also what was the women thinking going into a party where there had to be at least one hundred people in it? There is strength in numbers. No one is going to shut down the music if one person saids no while hundreds of others say yes. She was outnumbered one hundred to one. She should have just called the cops to handle this. There was no way she could have handled this by herself. Still she should have not been slammed and thrown into the pool.


She wasn't thinking. She came from a time where people behaved normally and you could talk with your neighbors/make requests without having to call the police or without getting assaulted and thrown into a pool. After looking at the situation she should have very easily realized her safety would likely be compromised.

I know I would have just called the cops to prevent this very thing from happening to me. Except me being a younger male and not an old woman, I probably would have gotten mobbed to death and died.
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3rd_Best_Master
05/07/17 6:54:20 PM
#132:


Capn Circus posted...
SwordMaster13X posted...
This topic is trash.

The jackass who slammed her into the concrete and then into the pool is an idiot. Seriously what was he thinking? There was no reason to do that.

But also what was the women thinking going into a party where there had to be at least one hundred people in it? There is strength in numbers. No one is going to shut down the music if one person saids no while hundreds of others say yes. She was outnumbered one hundred to one. She should have just called the cops to handle this. There was no way she could have handled this by herself. Still she should have not been slammed and thrown into the pool.


She wasn't thinking. She came from a time where people behaved normally and you could talk with your neighbors/make requests without having to call the police or without getting assaulted and thrown into a pool. After looking at the situation she should have very easily realized her safety would likely be compromised.

I know I would have just called the cops.

Which years were they where it was better to be the sole agitator while picking a fight with 100 people instead of just calling the cops and letting them do their jobs?
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I4NRulez
05/07/17 6:57:27 PM
#133:


Maze_ posted...
Honestly worse than being dumped in the pool is the way that guy drops her on her head onto concrete

That could have been serious


lol this, i thought it was going to be her standing near the edge and someone pushes her in. The dude tries to grab her and he slips and slams both of them down.
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Capn Circus
05/07/17 7:01:11 PM
#134:


3rd_Best_Master posted...
Capn Circus posted...
SwordMaster13X posted...
This topic is trash.

The jackass who slammed her into the concrete and then into the pool is an idiot. Seriously what was he thinking? There was no reason to do that.

But also what was the women thinking going into a party where there had to be at least one hundred people in it? There is strength in numbers. No one is going to shut down the music if one person saids no while hundreds of others say yes. She was outnumbered one hundred to one. She should have just called the cops to handle this. There was no way she could have handled this by herself. Still she should have not been slammed and thrown into the pool.


She wasn't thinking. She came from a time where people behaved normally and you could talk with your neighbors/make requests without having to call the police or without getting assaulted and thrown into a pool. After looking at the situation she should have very easily realized her safety would likely be compromised.

I know I would have just called the cops.

Which years were they where it was better to be the sole agitator while picking a fight with 100 people instead of just calling the cops and letting them do their jobs?


Exactly my point. "Elderly lady getting upset about the noise" equals "Agitator that can expect to get assaulted".

There's no specific year, as it gets worse every year. But I'd say sometimes generally before the 70s.

There's still some places where people actually act like people, but it's getting rarer.
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Mystere
05/07/17 7:02:26 PM
#135:


The title of this thread sounds like something that would happen in a goofy early 90's commercial for Koolaid or something.
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Wolf_J_Flywheel
05/07/17 7:08:48 PM
#136:


cjsdowg posted...
yem69420 posted...
lol the guy that did this so SO f***ed, especially if the woman or dogs got injured

keep on being CE and being like "she was trespassing" lol, yeah she was trying NOT to have to get the cops involved, which party people see as a favor in most instances.

I mean think/say what you want on here, but in the end, the guy in the red shirt is f***ed for felonious assault and animal cruelty at the least, if he has priors he'll probably do a 3 stretch, the old rich lady will sue the s*** out him and win, so that he will forever have his felon salary garnished at mcdonalds or some oil change place since he can't get a job anywhere else now. All to look funny in front of some ho's or to gain "street cred".

CE is gonna CE, but that is the reality of the situation



So white people don't have the follow the laws in your world ?

What laws were broken? I'm sure the city codes and fire marshal would have something to say about near a hundred people at an apartment residential pool. The law about assault and battery? Attempted murder? Leaving the scene of a crime? Or in your world the awful law of expecting certain people to act civilized?
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Mystere
05/07/17 7:14:20 PM
#138:


It seems that everything's gone wrong since Florida came along!
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cjsdowg
05/07/17 7:14:58 PM
#139:


Wolf_J_Flywheel posted...

What laws were broken? I'm sure the city codes and fire marshal would have something to say about near a hundred people at an apartment residential pool. The law about assault and battery? Attempted murder? Leaving the scene of a crime? Or in your world the awful law of expecting certain people to act civilized?


There are two stories floating around; one is that she came to the kids place and did this. If that is the case like was first reported she trespassed... Thus the fucked up laws in FL should allow almost anything to happen to her.

If this was public place, then the throwing her in the pool was the crime.
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EternalDivide
05/07/17 7:18:22 PM
#140:


I know the type. Bitter old person with nothing to live for sticking their nose into other people's business that doesn't concern them to complain about something because they're the dutiful concerned citizen. Yeah. Read your local paper's letters to the editor or attend a city council meeting and behold how many of these exact types there are.
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CADE FOSTER
05/07/17 7:22:44 PM
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1NfamousACE_2
05/07/17 7:25:41 PM
#142:


I expected so much racism in this topic
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I4NRulez
05/07/17 7:44:16 PM
#143:


CADE FOSTER posted...
She should have called the cops both parties were in the wrong tho


They probably wouldnt have done anything. I know where i live they wont shut anything down unless its ridiculously loud or past 10pm.
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Siaperaz
05/07/17 8:13:20 PM
#146:


Moderators letting csdowg get away with his disgusting trolling is ridiculous.
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Oystersoup
05/07/17 8:19:06 PM
#147:


10/10 topic
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cjsdowg
05/07/17 8:22:40 PM
#148:


Siaperaz posted...
Moderators letting csdowg get away with his disgusting trolling is ridiculous.


What did I say. I said One that I don't support the actions. And two if in fact she did trespass FL laws are so messed up that this would be ok. This is a clear commendation of a FL laws.
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MARKINGRAM22
05/07/17 8:22:46 PM
#149:


Siaperaz posted...
Moderators letting csdowg get away with his disgusting trolling is ridiculous.

Nothing worse than someone that posts troll shit then pretends to have a moral high ground.
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MARKINGRAM22
05/07/17 8:26:02 PM
#150:


cjsdowg posted...
Siaperaz posted...
Moderators letting csdowg get away with his disgusting trolling is ridiculous.


What did I say. I said One that I don't support the actions. And two if in fact she did trespass FL laws are so messed up that this would be ok. This is a clear commendation of a FL laws.


You shouldn't talk about things you don't know about. Again, no one knows if this is private property. Also, Florida doesn't allow you to do "whatever you want" to someone just for stepping on your property. You can't gun someone down cause their dog stepped on your grass. Stop being hyperbolic and pretending your strawman laws exist.
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glitteringfairy
05/07/17 8:27:26 PM
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It was still day light out I mean come on.

But anyway.. God damned THUGS
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toptopmax
05/07/17 8:35:51 PM
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This topic just shows that sjws are capable of evil as well.
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cjsdowg
05/07/17 8:45:11 PM
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MARKINGRAM22 posted...

You shouldn't talk about things you don't know about. Again, no one knows if this is private property. Also, Florida doesn't allow you to do "whatever you want" to someone just for stepping on your property. You can't gun someone down cause their dog stepped on your grass. Stop being hyperbolic and pretending your strawman laws exist


All over the South people have literally been shot dead for being in someone's lawn or even being close to someone's lawn.

http://www.nola.com/crime/index.ssf/2014/05/das_office_declines_to_prosecu.html

http://blog.al.com/spotnews/2013/05/stand_your_ground_jeffco_woman.html

I am not being hyperbolic these things do happen.
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