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hockeybub89 05/03/17 8:20:45 PM #52:	How can there be biological differences in intleligence between races when race isn't biological? --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:878424278] in Liberal lo... [t:75308485]...</cite> <quote>How can there be biological differences in intleligence between races when race isn't biological?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zero_Destroyer 05/03/17 8:21:51 PM #53:	Hinakuluiau posted... The Admiral posted... Best current example of this is with Prof. Charles Murray and his data that show there are intelligence differences between races. This topic can't even be discussed without liberals losing their shit. Ah yes, the studies that were done on behalf of the American Enterprise Institute, a conservative think-tank that was aggressively against Affirmative Action in the 90s, which is when the studies were published. And then you can look at much older work by Charles Murray, it seems he was always sort of obsessed with Eugenics and had a history of pushing poorly constructed studies in the past. His book studied two cities for over a decade. A good neighborhood called Belmont and a bad one called Fishtown in Philadelphia. The point he wanted to make is that Belmont will only improve and Fishtown will only get worse because the nature of each group will never change. While he never mentions it in the book, Fishtown became one of the fanciest and most gentrified neighborhoods in Philadelphia and the natives have since become much wealthier when their homes exploded in value. It's obvious this ruined his whole thesis. However, he covers this up by claiming that "Belmont" and "Fishtown" were just his short-hand terms for a composite of neighborhoods across the country with certain demographics that he chose when he began the study. These are the clowns that wrote "The Bell Curve". A Eugenics nutcase and an embarrassing excuse for a researcher. Let's also not forget that IQ tests have always been biased towards upper-class white males, where each step away from that ideal the lower your score. It's a terrible way to judge intelligence. But yeah, this counts as "liberals lose their shit" bodied lmao --- Enjoy movies and television? Check out my blog! I do reviews and analyses. http://fictionrantreview.wordpress.com/ (The Force Awakens spoiler review up!) <cite>Zero_Destroyer posted [p:878424346] in Liberal lo... [t:75308485]...</cite> <quote><cite>Hinakuluiau posted...</cite> <quote><cite>The Admiral posted...</cite> <quote>Best current example of this is with Prof. Charles Murray and his data that show there are intelligence differences between races. This topic can't even be discussed without liberals losing their shit.</quote> Ah yes, the studies that were done on behalf of the American Enterprise Institute, a conservative think-tank that was aggressively against Affirmative Action in the 90s, which is when the studies were published. And then you can look at much older work by Charles Murray, it seems he was always sort of obsessed with Eugenics and had a history of pushing poorly constructed studies in the past. His book studied two cities for over a decade. A good neighborhood called Belmont and a bad one called Fishtown in Philadelphia. The point he wanted to make is that Belmont will only improve and Fishtown will only get worse because the nature of each group will never change. While he never mentions it in the book, Fishtown became one of the fanciest and most gentrified neighborhoods in Philadelphia and the natives have since become much wealthier when their homes exploded in value. It's obvious this ruined his whole thesis. However, he covers this up by claiming that "Belmont" and "Fishtown" were just his short-hand terms for a composite of neighborhoods across the country with certain demographics that he chose when he began the study. These are the clowns that wrote "The Bell Curve". A Eugenics nutcase and an embarrassing excuse for a researcher. Let's also not forget that IQ tests have always been biased towards upper-class white males, where each step away from that ideal the lower your score. It's a terrible way to judge intelligence. But yeah, this counts as "liberals lose their shit"</quote> bodied lmao</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The Admiral 05/03/17 8:22:37 PM #54:	hockeybub89 posted... How can there be biological differences in intleligence between races when race isn't biological? It is biological, or, at the very least, it has biological indicators. You can tell a person's race/ethnicity from a DNA test. Certain races and ethnicities are also more susceptible to certain diseases (e.g. sickle cell). --- - The Admiral <cite>The Admiral posted [p:878424384] in Liberal lo... [t:75308485]...</cite> <quote><cite>hockeybub89 posted...</cite> <quote>How can there be biological differences in intleligence between races when race isn't biological?</quote> It is biological, or, at the very least, it has biological indicators. You can tell a person's race/ethnicity from a DNA test. Certain races and ethnicities are also more susceptible to certain diseases (e.g. sickle cell).</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
WaffIeElite 05/03/17 8:29:27 PM #55:	Protip for conservatards - spouting off bullshit, psuedo-science that you got off of a worthless right wing Facebook post is not science. --- I have a signature. Apparently this is important, but I still don't have my secret cool kid decoder ring yet. <cite>WaffIeElite posted [p:878424724] in Liberal lo... [t:75308485]...</cite> <quote>Protip for conservatards - spouting off bullshit, psuedo-science that you got off of a worthless right wing Facebook post is not science.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MLGSerperior111 05/03/17 8:43:37 PM #56:	Wariodorf posted... COVxy posted... Iwin2013 posted... Don't hivemind us. Amazing. --- FC: 0233-0297-6306 So original, you can just feel the unoriginality of my originality. <cite>MLGSerperior111 posted [p:878425535] in Liberal lo... [t:75308485]...</cite> <quote><cite>Wariodorf posted...</cite> <quote><cite>COVxy posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Iwin2013 posted...</cite> <quote>Don't hivemind us.</quote> Amazing.</quote></quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Iwin2013 05/03/17 8:44:11 PM #57:	hockeybub89 posted... How can there be biological differences in intleligence between races when race isn't biological? Da Fuck? The Admiral posted... hockeybub89 posted... How can there be biological differences in intleligence between races when race isn't biological? It is biological, or, at the very least, it has biological indicators. You can tell a person's race/ethnicity from a DNA test. Certain races and ethnicities are also more susceptible to certain diseases (e.g. sickle cell). The more and more, I see you post, the more and more I want to ask you over for a beer. --- #TheSmarkBrotherhood <cite>Iwin2013 posted [p:878425569] in Liberal lo... [t:75308485]...</cite> <quote><cite>hockeybub89 posted...</cite> <quote>How can there be biological differences in intleligence between races when race isn't biological?</quote> Da Fuck? <cite>The Admiral posted...</cite> <quote><cite>hockeybub89 posted...</cite> <quote>How can there be biological differences in intleligence between races when race isn't biological?</quote> It is biological, or, at the very least, it has biological indicators. You can tell a person's race/ethnicity from a DNA test. Certain races and ethnicities are also more susceptible to certain diseases (e.g. sickle cell).</quote> The more and more, I see you post, the more and more I want to ask you over for a beer.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BreezyExcursion 05/03/17 8:52:16 PM #59:	if u pay scientists to find global warming they'll find global warming --- produce rope shoot rope <cite>BreezyExcursion posted [p:878426053] in Liberal lo... [t:75308485]...</cite> <quote>if u pay scientists to find global warming they'll find global warming</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Antifar 05/03/17 8:53:21 PM #60:	BreezyExcursion posted... if u pay scientists to find global warming they'll find global warming But who is doing that, exactly --- an aspirin the size of the sun. <cite>Antifar posted [p:878426122] in Liberal lo... [t:75308485]...</cite> <quote><cite>BreezyExcursion posted...</cite> <quote>if u pay scientists to find global warming they'll find global warming </quote> But who is doing that, exactly</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
P4wn4g3 05/03/17 9:05:12 PM #61:	This is one of those instances where the Admiral isn't wrong. It's why he can't simply be dismissed as a shitposter. Albeit I have to say I don't really know the professor in question or the methodology or peer acceptance he gets. --- For problems with the site, start here: http://www.gamefaqs.com/feedback/index.php?type=37 <cite>P4wn4g3 posted [p:878426811] in Liberal lo... [t:75308485]...</cite> <quote>This is one of those instances where the Admiral isn't wrong. It's why he can't simply be dismissed as a shitposter. Albeit I have to say I don't really know the professor in question or the methodology or peer acceptance he gets.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
COVxy 05/03/17 9:10:10 PM #62:	The Admiral posted... You cannot, however, put forth any defensible assertion that IQ and race are not correlated. Let's not pretend like this is something that people actually argue. What they argue is that race and intelligence likely aren't correlated. --- =E[(x-E[x])(y-E[y])] <cite>COVxy posted [p:878427106] in Liberal lo... [t:75308485]...</cite> <quote><cite>The Admiral posted...</cite> <quote>You cannot, however, put forth any defensible assertion that IQ and race are not correlated.</quote> Let's not pretend like this is something that people actually argue. What they argue is that race and intelligence likely aren't correlated.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
scoobydoobydont 05/03/17 9:12:32 PM #63:	Iwin2013 posted... Am I wrong? Yes. P4wn4g3 posted... This is one of those instances where the Admiral isn't wrong. It's why he can't simply be dismissed as a shitposter. He's both wrong and a shitposter, agreeing with him just means you are too. --- http://i.imgur.com/Lz9KiZA.jpg http://i.imgur.com/eUg3mP6.jpg https://i.imgur.com/MK8vbmw.png https://i.imgur.com/DNvL8q5.jpg <cite>scoobydoobydont posted [p:878427233] in Liberal lo... [t:75308485]...</cite> <quote><cite>Iwin2013 posted...</cite> <quote>Am I wrong?</quote> Yes. <cite>P4wn4g3 posted...</cite> <quote>This is one of those instances where the Admiral isn't wrong. It's why he can't simply be dismissed as a shitposter.</quote> He's both wrong and a shitposter, agreeing with him just means you are too.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
3rd_Best_Master 05/03/17 9:13:38 PM #64:	P4wn4g3 posted... This is one of those instances where the Admiral isn't wrong. It's why he can't simply be dismissed as a shitposter. Albeit I have to say I don't really know the professor in question or the methodology or peer acceptance he gets. Shitposters have their moments, but they're still shitposters. --- You've fought the strongest, the second strongest, the fourth strongest, and the weakest master! Now you see the true advantage of being third strongest master! <cite>3rd_Best_Master posted [p:878427303] in Liberal lo... [t:75308485]...</cite> <quote><cite>P4wn4g3 posted...</cite> <quote>This is one of those instances where the Admiral isn't wrong. It's why he can't simply be dismissed as a shitposter. Albeit I have to say I don't really know the professor in question or the methodology or peer acceptance he gets.</quote> Shitposters have their moments, but they're still shitposters.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The Admiral 05/03/17 9:16:57 PM #65:	COVxy posted... The Admiral posted... You cannot, however, put forth any defensible assertion that IQ and race are not correlated. Let's not pretend like this is something that people actually argue. What they argue is that race and intelligence likely aren't correlated. Of course they are. People in this topic (and the liberals who get so upset about this) think that every race has equal intelligence, and that any aggregate differences in test scores are the result of some other factor. Some go as far as to say that even researching this topic is racist (multiple people said this to me the last time we discussed this topic). I'm not really sure why anyone would take it as a given that every racial and ethnic group should have equal intelligence, when we don't really see this in any other species (e.g. look at the intelligence variations among dog breeds). Now, there is admittedly much less genetic diversity among humans than among species like dogs, but I don't see any reason people should be huffy about this topic or so surefire that race has nothing to do with intelligence. --- - The Admiral <cite>The Admiral posted [p:878427502] in Liberal lo... [t:75308485]...</cite> <quote><cite>COVxy posted...</cite> <quote><cite>The Admiral posted...</cite> <quote>You cannot, however, put forth any defensible assertion that IQ and race are not correlated.</quote> Let's not pretend like this is something that people actually argue. What they argue is that race and intelligence likely aren't correlated.</quote> Of course they are. People in this topic (and the liberals who get so upset about this) think that every race has equal intelligence, and that any aggregate differences in test scores are the result of some other factor. Some go as far as to say that even researching this topic is racist (multiple people said this to me the last time we discussed this topic). I'm not really sure why anyone would take it as a given that every racial and ethnic group should have equal intelligence, when we don't really see this in any other species (e.g. look at the intelligence variations among dog breeds). Now, there is admittedly much less genetic diversity among humans than among species like dogs, but I don't see any reason people should be huffy about this topic or so surefire that race has nothing to do with intelligence.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
COVxy 05/03/17 9:17:57 PM #66:	The Admiral posted... Of course they are. People in this topic (and the liberals who get so upset about this) think that every race has equal intelligence. I see you've missed the distinction I was making. --- =E[(x-E[x])(y-E[y])] <cite>COVxy posted [p:878427565] in Liberal lo... [t:75308485]...</cite> <quote><cite>The Admiral posted...</cite> <quote>Of course they are. People in this topic (and the liberals who get so upset about this) think that every race has equal intelligence.</quote> I see you've missed the distinction I was making.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
dj4242 05/03/17 9:18:31 PM #67:	There are only 2 genders. You either have a dick and are a male or you have a vagina and are a female. It's not a difficult thing to understand. It's pretty sad that libs are throwing big money at dudes like Bill Nye to get him to say there are more now. --- #MAGA Got a Chris Paul mindstate, I'm never out of bounds <cite>dj4242 posted [p:878427599] in Liberal lo... [t:75308485]...</cite> <quote>There are only 2 genders. You either have a dick and are a male or you have a vagina and are a female. It's not a difficult thing to understand. It's pretty sad that libs are throwing big money at dudes like Bill Nye to get him to say there are more now.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
REMercsChamp 05/03/17 9:21:40 PM #68:	Antifar posted... BreezyExcursion posted... if u pay scientists to find global warming they'll find global warming But who is doing that, exactly Liberals, that's who --- https://cdn.meme.am/instances/500x/35939727.jpg <cite>REMercsChamp posted [p:878427775] in Liberal lo... [t:75308485]...</cite> <quote><cite>Antifar posted...</cite> <quote><cite>BreezyExcursion posted...</cite> <quote>if u pay scientists to find global warming they'll find global warming </quote> But who is doing that, exactly</quote> Liberals, that's who</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The Admiral 05/03/17 9:29:30 PM #69:	REMercsChamp posted... Antifar posted... BreezyExcursion posted... if u pay scientists to find global warming they'll find global warming But who is doing that, exactly Liberals, that's who They don't make up the problem -- global warming is definitely a problem. But they fall prey to the same problem most liberals do, which is thinking they need to exaggerate something for dramatic effect even when they're in the right. So, we have stuff like this, where scientists get caught manipulating the data to make the problem seem more alarming: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-4192182/World-leaders-duped-manipulated-global-warming-data.html Why do that? Because the more urgent the problem, the easier to is to get people emotional and raise large sums of money for research. --- - The Admiral <cite>The Admiral posted [p:878428221] in Liberal lo... [t:75308485]...</cite> <quote><cite>REMercsChamp posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Antifar posted...</cite> <quote><cite>BreezyExcursion posted...</cite> <quote>if u pay scientists to find global warming they'll find global warming </quote> But who is doing that, exactly</quote> Liberals, that's who</quote> They don't make up the problem -- global warming is definitely a problem. But they fall prey to the same problem most liberals do, which is thinking they need to exaggerate something for dramatic effect even when they're in the right. So, we have stuff like this, where scientists get caught manipulating the data to make the problem seem more alarming: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-4192182/World-leaders-duped-manipulated-global-warming-data.html Why do that? Because the more urgent the problem, the easier to is to get people emotional and raise large sums of money for research.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CruelBuffalo 05/03/17 9:29:56 PM #70:	Samurontai posted... The Admiral posted... Liberals in general claim that they're all about embracing science, until science is politically incorrect or conflicts with their feelings-based narrative. Best current example of this is with Prof. Charles Murray and his data that show there are intelligence differences between races. This topic can't even be discussed without liberals losing their shit. GOATTHlEF posted... This is a shitty gimmick bro So this is the type of post I'm missing out on by adding him on ignore. Glad I chose to. <cite>CruelBuffalo posted [p:878428242] in Liberal lo... [t:75308485]...</cite> <quote><cite>Samurontai posted...</cite> <quote><cite>The Admiral posted...</cite> <quote>Liberals in general claim that they're all about embracing science, until science is politically incorrect or conflicts with their feelings-based narrative. Best current example of this is with Prof. Charles Murray and his data that show there are intelligence differences between races. This topic can't even be discussed without liberals losing their shit.</quote> <cite>GOATTHlEF posted...</cite> <quote>This is a shitty gimmick bro</quote></quote> So this is the type of post I'm missing out on by adding him on ignore. Glad I chose to.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CruelBuffalo 05/03/17 9:30:49 PM #71:	dj4242 posted... There are only 2 genders. You either have a dick and are a male or you have a vagina and are a female. It's not a difficult thing to understand. It's pretty sad that libs are throwing big money at dudes like Bill Nye to get him to say there are more now. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disorders_of_sex_development <cite>CruelBuffalo posted [p:878428290] in Liberal lo... [t:75308485]...</cite> <quote><cite>dj4242 posted...</cite> <quote>There are only 2 genders. You either have a dick and are a male or you have a vagina and are a female. It's not a difficult thing to understand. It's pretty sad that libs are throwing big money at dudes like Bill Nye to get him to say there are more now.</quote> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disorders_of_sex_development</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
REMercsChamp 05/03/17 9:33:55 PM #72:	The Admiral posted... They don't make up the problem -- global warming is definitely a problem Here's my problems with how global warming is being presented by scientists via global leaders and the media: - Oversimplification - Melodramatics - Agenda pushing - Providing opinion as facts --- https://cdn.meme.am/instances/500x/35939727.jpg <cite>REMercsChamp posted [p:878428442] in Liberal lo... [t:75308485]...</cite> <quote><cite>The Admiral posted...</cite> <quote>They don't make up the problem -- global warming is definitely a problem</quote> Here's my problems with how global warming is being presented by scientists via global leaders and the media: - Oversimplification - Melodramatics - Agenda pushing - Providing opinion as facts</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
P4wn4g3 05/03/17 9:46:29 PM #73:	scoobydoobydont posted... Iwin2013 posted... Am I wrong? Yes. P4wn4g3 posted... This is one of those instances where the Admiral isn't wrong. It's why he can't simply be dismissed as a shitposter. He's both wrong and a shitposter, agreeing with him just means you are too. You know, this extreme thinking isn't helping anyone. --- For problems with the site, start here: http://www.gamefaqs.com/feedback/index.php?type=37 <cite>P4wn4g3 posted [p:878429091] in Liberal lo... [t:75308485]...</cite> <quote><cite>scoobydoobydont posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Iwin2013 posted...</cite> <quote>Am I wrong?</quote> Yes. <cite>P4wn4g3 posted...</cite> <quote>This is one of those instances where the Admiral isn't wrong. It's why he can't simply be dismissed as a shitposter.</quote> He's both wrong and a shitposter, agreeing with him just means you are too.</quote> You know, this extreme thinking isn't helping anyone.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Hexenherz 05/03/17 10:17:35 PM #74:	COVxy posted... This topic is a shit show. Just want to say I'm glad this was the first response in this topic. There are some really, really outdated viewpoints on this board sometime so it's nice to see a positive reaction like this. <cite>Hexenherz posted [p:878430840] in Liberal lo... [t:75308485]...</cite> <quote><cite>COVxy posted...</cite> <quote>This topic is a shit show.</quote> Just want to say I'm glad this was the first response in this topic. There are some really, really outdated viewpoints on this board sometime so it's nice to see a positive reaction like this.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AcFan87 05/03/17 11:03:28 PM #75:	scoobydoobydont posted... Iwin2013 posted... Conservatives bring up that Science say 99 genders don't exist Science doesn't say that. Cool strawman though, bigot. He's not a bigot......nice try though <cite>AcFan87 posted [p:878433386] in Liberal lo... [t:75308485]...</cite> <quote><cite>scoobydoobydont posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Iwin2013 posted...</cite> <quote>Conservatives bring up that Science say 99 genders don't exist</quote> Science doesn't say that. Cool strawman though, bigot.</quote> He's not a bigot......nice try though</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mr Sandbag 05/03/17 11:06:36 PM #76:	Samurontai posted... Honestly though, does anyone on this board take Admiral seriously? Have they ever? I feel like he's always the butt of some joke, or ends up being laughed out of topics that he enters Oh the irony. --- got sand? The wall just got 10 feet higher <cite>Mr Sandbag posted [p:878433554] in Liberal lo... [t:75308485]...</cite> <quote><cite>Samurontai posted...</cite> <quote>Honestly though, does anyone on this board take Admiral seriously? Have they ever? I feel like he's always the butt of some joke, or ends up being laughed out of topics that he enters</quote> Oh the irony.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
megATOMOS 05/03/17 11:08:38 PM #77:	The Admiral posted... You cannot, however, put forth any defensible assertion that IQ and race are not correlated. and you haven't linked to any scientific study that says there is and since we know you're a racist from your history here I think we know why you want to believe this --- http://i.imgur.com/8GzlC.gif <cite>megATOMOS posted [p:878433639] in Liberal lo... [t:75308485]...</cite> <quote><cite>The Admiral posted...</cite> <quote>You cannot, however, put forth any defensible assertion that IQ and race are not correlated.</quote> and you haven't linked to any scientific study that says there is and since we know you're a racist from your history here I think we know why you want to believe this</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Giblet_Enjoyer 05/03/17 11:12:23 PM #78:	Sayoria posted... Or.... Conservatives: "Science is wrong! Greenhouse Gases are wrong! Evolution is wrong!" Brings up gender Conservatives: "CHROMOSOME CHROMOSOME BIOLOGY!" This one is much more accurate than TC's --- He which make friends with scorpion, soon come to find out what a scorpion does - they bite people with its tail --ancient Chinese proverb <cite>Giblet_Enjoyer posted [p:878433835] in Liberal lo... [t:75308485]...</cite> <quote><cite>Sayoria posted...</cite> <quote>Or.... Conservatives: "Science is wrong! Greenhouse Gases are wrong! Evolution is wrong!" Brings up gender Conservatives: "CHROMOSOME CHROMOSOME BIOLOGY!"</quote> This one is much more accurate than TC's</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Giblet_Enjoyer 05/03/17 11:19:35 PM #79:	The Admiral posted... Best current example of this is with Prof. Charles Murray and his data that show there are intelligence differences between races. This topic can't even be discussed without liberals losing their shit. This is true too, though liberals are still better on this because the response is generally something like "Why are you so interested in proving that certain races are smarter?" which isn't an outright denial of scientific fact like what conservatives do by denying climate science/evolution/etc. Also, denying climate science is has a far bigger impact and is pretty evil --- He which make friends with scorpion, soon come to find out what a scorpion does - they bite people with its tail --ancient Chinese proverb <cite>Giblet_Enjoyer posted [p:878434198] in Liberal lo... [t:75308485]...</cite> <quote><cite>The Admiral posted...</cite> <quote>Best current example of this is with Prof. Charles Murray and his data that show there are intelligence differences between races. This topic can't even be discussed without liberals losing their shit.</quote> This is true too, though liberals are still better on this because the response is generally something like "Why are you so interested in proving that certain races are smarter?" which isn't an outright denial of scientific fact like what conservatives do by denying climate science/evolution/etc. Also, denying climate science is has a far bigger impact and is pretty evil</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dragonblade01 05/03/17 11:36:55 PM #80:	I'm more curious how any study trying to establish a meaningful connection between "intelligence" and race plans to isolate it out of all of the other factors that may be perfectly viable factors just as easily. --- PSN: kazukifafner <cite>Dragonblade01 posted [p:878434998] in Liberal lo... [t:75308485]...</cite> <quote>I'm more curious how any study trying to establish a meaningful connection between "intelligence" and race plans to isolate it out of all of the other factors that may be perfectly viable factors just as easily.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Arcturus1121 05/03/17 11:36:59 PM #81:	Giblet_Enjoyer posted... Sayoria posted... Or.... Conservatives: "Science is wrong! Greenhouse Gases are wrong! Evolution is wrong!" Brings up gender Conservatives: "CHROMOSOME CHROMOSOME BIOLOGY!" This one is much more accurate than TC's But what about XXY, XXX, and X. These are all very much so compatible with life. Do republicans think there are 5 sexes if we are going by chromosomes now? --- [l][l][l][l][l][l][l][l][l][l][l][l][l][l][l][l][l][l][l][l] <cite>Arcturus1121 posted [p:878435002] in Liberal lo... [t:75308485]...</cite> <quote><cite>Giblet_Enjoyer posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Sayoria posted...</cite> <quote>Or.... Conservatives: "Science is wrong! Greenhouse Gases are wrong! Evolution is wrong!" Brings up gender Conservatives: "CHROMOSOME CHROMOSOME BIOLOGY!"</quote> This one is much more accurate than TC's</quote> But what about XXY, XXX, and X. These are all very much so compatible with life. Do republicans think there are 5 sexes if we are going by chromosomes now?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
infinitydev2020 05/03/17 11:39:31 PM #82:	Man I wonder what would happen to the world if, with enough evidence and support, all science could be universally agreed upon? --- "I'm a handsome man with a charming personality" Gabe Newell <cite>infinitydev2020 posted [p:878435121] in Liberal lo... [t:75308485]...</cite> <quote>Man I wonder what would happen to the world if, with enough evidence and support, all science could be universally agreed upon?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
COVxy 05/03/17 11:41:56 PM #83:	Dragonblade01 posted... I'm more curious how any study trying to establish a meaningful connection between "intelligence" and race plans to isolate it out of all of the other factors that may be perfectly viable factors just as easily. I mean, The Admiral's immediate tendency to equate IQ to intelligence demonstrates his lack of formal education in research methods, statistics, and/or measurement theory. --- =E[(x-E[x])(y-E[y])] <cite>COVxy posted [p:878435246] in Liberal lo... [t:75308485]...</cite> <quote><cite>Dragonblade01 posted...</cite> <quote>I'm more curious how any study trying to establish a meaningful connection between "intelligence" and race plans to isolate it out of all of the other factors that may be perfectly viable factors just as easily.</quote> I mean, The Admiral's immediate tendency to equate IQ to intelligence demonstrates his lack of formal education in research methods, statistics, and/or measurement theory.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheBestPostr 05/03/17 11:42:48 PM #84:	Science is arbitrary and it goes to he highest bidder. Biggest waste of time. Science is literally a religion to liberals. <cite>TheBestPostr posted [p:878435297] in Liberal lo... [t:75308485]...</cite> <quote>Science is arbitrary and it goes to he highest bidder. Biggest waste of time. Science is literally a religion to liberals.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
infinitydev2020 05/03/17 11:44:45 PM #85:	TheBestPostr posted... Science is arbitrary and it goes to he highest bidder. Biggest waste of time. Science is literally a religion to liberals. I'm not even that liberal being more right leaning, and I'm pretty fond of science. --- "I'm a handsome man with a charming personality" Gabe Newell <cite>infinitydev2020 posted [p:878435404] in Liberal lo... [t:75308485]...</cite> <quote><cite>TheBestPostr posted...</cite> <quote>Science is arbitrary and it goes to he highest bidder. Biggest waste of time. Science is literally a religion to liberals.</quote> I'm not even that liberal being more right leaning, and I'm pretty fond of science.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Arcturus1121 05/03/17 11:45:16 PM #86:	infinitydev2020 posted... Man I wonder what would happen to the world if, with enough evidence and support, all science could be universally agreed upon? I mean to be honest, probably a lot more suicide. Some people just need something else to believe in. That everything isn't just random chance and you are lucky that the stardust you are made of gained consciousness on a planet that can sustain who YOU are. But, if you are saying if everyone could just agree on science with no adverse consequences, then I think science would take great leaps forward and we will probably be exploring the stars sooner rather than later. --- [l][l][l][l][l][l][l][l][l][l][l][l][l][l][l][l][l][l][l][l] <cite>Arcturus1121 posted [p:878435435] in Liberal lo... [t:75308485]...</cite> <quote><cite>infinitydev2020 posted...</cite> <quote>Man I wonder what would happen to the world if, with enough evidence and support, all science could be universally agreed upon?</quote> I mean to be honest, probably a lot more suicide. Some people just need something else to believe in. That everything isn't just random chance and you are lucky that the stardust you are made of gained consciousness on a planet that can sustain who YOU are. But, if you are saying if everyone could just agree on science with no adverse consequences, then I think science would take great leaps forward and we will probably be exploring the stars sooner rather than later.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Arcturus1121 05/03/17 11:46:11 PM #87:	TheBestPostr posted... Science is arbitrary and it goes to he highest bidder. Biggest waste of time. Science is literally a religion to liberals. Yeah. ugh. I hate understanding how things work around me, dumb liberals. --- [l][l][l][l][l][l][l][l][l][l][l][l][l][l][l][l][l][l][l][l] <cite>Arcturus1121 posted [p:878435474] in Liberal lo... [t:75308485]...</cite> <quote><cite>TheBestPostr posted...</cite> <quote>Science is arbitrary and it goes to he highest bidder. Biggest waste of time. Science is literally a religion to liberals.</quote> Yeah. ugh. I hate understanding how things work around me, dumb liberals.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ManSpread 05/03/17 11:49:11 PM #88:	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zxQq1wB7A28 --- https://i.imgur.com/mYLURVv.png http://i.imgur.com/Dj68WVS.gifv <cite>ManSpread posted [p:878435638] in Liberal lo... [t:75308485]...</cite> <quote> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zxQq1wB7A28</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
L621 05/03/17 11:55:29 PM #89:	Biologically speaking race is a trait, or rather a general collection of traits, which is why you can ID it based on DNA testing. In reality judging anything else, such as intelligence, based on something like skin color is as valid as judging intelligence based on the width of people's toenails. There has to be a genetic basis for traits to be connected, as in the same genes would have to somehow contribute to skin pigment and to intelligence and do so significantly for there to be a valid connection. We would have heard about it if it had been found. Gender and sex are not the same thing. Gender is a social construct that begins before a baby is born. There is a reason gender roles evolve over time and are not the same in every culture. Sex is more complex than male and female even on a purely genetic level. It isn't as simple as penis = male, vagina = female. Some have both sex organs or parts of both. Some have genes or parts of genes for both. Genes get messy because nature is messy. Humans like to categorize things into neat boxes because it helps us understand them, but that isn't how the world works. That's a good thing because none of us would be here if nature was orderly. This is what science says on these subjects in a nutshell. When you try to say otherwise it reveals that you haven't actually had a science education. A lot of people get way too worked up over some shit that should just be very interesting and cool if you'd stop trying to assign deeper meaning to it all. <cite>L621 posted [p:878435967] in Liberal lo... [t:75308485]...</cite> <quote>Biologically speaking race is a trait, or rather a general collection of traits, which is why you can ID it based on DNA testing. In reality judging anything else, such as intelligence, based on something like skin color is as valid as judging intelligence based on the width of people's toenails. There has to be a genetic basis for traits to be connected, as in the same genes would have to somehow contribute to skin pigment and to intelligence and do so significantly for there to be a valid connection. We would have heard about it if it had been found. Gender and sex are not the same thing. Gender is a social construct that begins before a baby is born. There is a reason gender roles evolve over time and are not the same in every culture. Sex is more complex than male and female even on a purely genetic level. It isn't as simple as penis = male, vagina = female. Some have both sex organs or parts of both. Some have genes or parts of genes for both. Genes get messy because nature is messy. Humans like to categorize things into neat boxes because it helps us understand them, but that isn't how the world works. That's a good thing because none of us would be here if nature was orderly. This is what science says on these subjects in a nutshell. When you try to say otherwise it reveals that you haven't actually had a science education. A lot of people get way too worked up over some shit that should just be very interesting and cool if you'd stop trying to assign deeper meaning to it all.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
prettyprincess 05/03/17 11:55:52 PM #90:	P4wn4g3 posted... This is one of those instances where the Admiral isn't wrong. Albeit I have to say I don't really know the professor in question or the methodology or peer acceptance he gets. seems like dubious support --- And in an infinite regress, tell me, why is the pain of birth lighter borne than the pain of death? http://www.last.fm/user/followthegospel <cite>prettyprincess posted [p:878435985] in Liberal lo... [t:75308485]...</cite> <quote><cite>P4wn4g3 posted...</cite> <quote>This is one of those instances where the Admiral isn't wrong.</quote> <quote>Albeit I have to say I don't really know the professor in question or the methodology or peer acceptance he gets.</quote> seems like dubious support</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
infinitydev2020 05/04/17 12:07:59 AM #91:	Arcturus1121 posted... infinitydev2020 posted... Man I wonder what would happen to the world if, with enough evidence and support, all science could be universally agreed upon? I mean to be honest, probably a lot more suicide. Some people just need something else to believe in. That everything isn't just random chance and you are lucky that the stardust you are made of gained consciousness on a planet that can sustain who YOU are. But, if you are saying if everyone could just agree on science with no adverse consequences, then I think science would take great leaps forward and we will probably be exploring the stars sooner rather than later. I could see the suicide thing happening with the belief and all, however I myself am religious, but I'm more reliant on science than an age old book. --- "I'm a handsome man with a charming personality" Gabe Newell <cite>infinitydev2020 posted [p:878436643] in Liberal lo... [t:75308485]...</cite> <quote><cite>Arcturus1121 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>infinitydev2020 posted...</cite> <quote>Man I wonder what would happen to the world if, with enough evidence and support, all science could be universally agreed upon?</quote> I mean to be honest, probably a lot more suicide. Some people just need something else to believe in. That everything isn't just random chance and you are lucky that the stardust you are made of gained consciousness on a planet that can sustain who YOU are. But, if you are saying if everyone could just agree on science with no adverse consequences, then I think science would take great leaps forward and we will probably be exploring the stars sooner rather than later.</quote> I could see the suicide thing happening with the belief and all, however I myself am religious, but I'm more reliant on science than an age old book.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zero_Destroyer 05/04/17 12:25:22 AM #92:	I'm not sure why The Bell Curve is being cited as scientific fact when its authors were so lacking in confidence towards its legitimacy that they never submitted it for peer review or when The Bell Curve is essentially one example done by two researchers when most accepted scientific facts take a very long time and a large number of studies to fully take shape. --- Enjoy movies and television? Check out my blog! I do reviews and analyses. http://fictionrantreview.wordpress.com/ (The Force Awakens spoiler review up!) <cite>Zero_Destroyer posted [p:878437504] in Liberal lo... [t:75308485]...</cite> <quote>I'm not sure why The Bell Curve is being cited as scientific fact when its authors were so lacking in confidence towards its legitimacy that they never submitted it for peer review or when The Bell Curve is essentially one example done by two researchers when most accepted scientific facts take a very long time and a large number of studies to fully take shape.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
P4wn4g3 05/04/17 12:29:46 AM #93:	prettyprincess posted... P4wn4g3 posted... This is one of those instances where the Admiral isn't wrong. Albeit I have to say I don't really know the professor in question or the methodology or peer acceptance he gets. seems like dubious support Well it was a disclaimer for someone like you, who would jump at the chance to crucify someone who might look like they agree with his source. --- For problems with the site, start here: http://www.gamefaqs.com/feedback/index.php?type=37 <cite>P4wn4g3 posted [p:878437696] in Liberal lo... [t:75308485]...</cite> <quote><cite>prettyprincess posted...</cite> <quote><cite>P4wn4g3 posted...</cite> <quote>This is one of those instances where the Admiral isn't wrong.</quote> <quote>Albeit I have to say I don't really know the professor in question or the methodology or peer acceptance he gets.</quote> seems like dubious support</quote> Well it was a disclaimer for someone like you, who would jump at the chance to crucify someone who might look like they agree with his source.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Hinakuluiau 05/04/17 12:40:44 AM #94:	Zero_Destroyer posted... I'm not sure why The Bell Curve is being cited as scientific fact when its authors were so lacking in confidence towards its legitimacy that they never submitted it for peer review or when The Bell Curve is essentially one example done by two researchers when most accepted scientific facts take a very long time and a large number of studies to fully take shape. Be careful, Admiral thinks pointing this out means we're losing our shit --- There are some things where I just bypass critical thinking. - ROD http://error1355.com/ce/Hinakuluiau.html <cite>Hinakuluiau posted [p:878438174] in Liberal lo... [t:75308485]...</cite> <quote><cite>Zero_Destroyer posted...</cite> <quote>I'm not sure why The Bell Curve is being cited as scientific fact when its authors were so lacking in confidence towards its legitimacy that they never submitted it for peer review or when The Bell Curve is essentially one example done by two researchers when most accepted scientific facts take a very long time and a large number of studies to fully take shape.</quote> Be careful, Admiral thinks pointing this out means we're losing our shit</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Al-Uzza 05/04/17 12:41:02 AM #95:	http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Science_was_wrong_before <cite>Al-Uzza posted [p:878438193] in Liberal lo... [t:75308485]...</cite> <quote>http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Science_was_wrong_before</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheBestPostr 05/04/17 12:47:13 AM #96:	Okay, the stuff that is applicable or explains things (such as chemistry, physics, and biology) not only serve a purpose but I find some of it interesting. It's the theoretical garbage that really pisses me off, and that's where it segways from a knowleadgable field of study into a political platform. This whole "science vs religion" has been going on forever. Imagine the billions that they've spent classifying and reclassifying things just so they could stroke their egos and declare that Pluto was no longer a planet? Trying to disprove God, whether through theoretical astrological nonsense or that evolution spiel. The target is kids and the goal is to stamp out religion. Christianity in specific, because it is science's biggest enemy: the one thing that science could never disprove, never classify or explain, never claim as their own. They hate Christianity because they fear it. <cite>TheBestPostr posted [p:878438439] in Liberal lo... [t:75308485]...</cite> <quote>Okay, the stuff that is applicable or explains things (such as chemistry, physics, and biology) not only serve a purpose but I find some of it interesting. It's the theoretical garbage that really pisses me off, and that's where it segways from a knowleadgable field of study into a political platform. This whole "science vs religion" has been going on forever. Imagine the billions that they've spent classifying and reclassifying things just so they could stroke their egos and declare that Pluto was no longer a planet? Trying to disprove God, whether through theoretical astrological nonsense or that evolution spiel. The target is kids and the goal is to stamp out religion. Christianity in specific, because it is science's biggest enemy: the one thing that science could never disprove, never classify or explain, never claim as their own. They hate Christianity because they fear it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 05/04/17 2:39:34 AM #97:	TheBestPostr posted... The target is kids and the goal is to stamp out religion. Christianity in specific, because it is science's biggest enemy: the one thing that science could never disprove, never classify or explain, never claim as their own. They hate Christianity because they fear it. Why would people be afraid of goofy, outlandish myths that are deliberately designed to be unprovable and beyond the realm of understanding? Religion isn't a weapon to being down science. It's a clever circumvention of it designed to control and/or comfort people. It makes the world simple and complicated at the same time? Why X? Because magical being beyond comprehension wanted it. Fortunately, the world is slowly growing out of religion. One millennia at a time. --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:878442169] in Liberal lo... [t:75308485]...</cite> <quote><cite>TheBestPostr posted...</cite> <quote>The target is kids and the goal is to stamp out religion. Christianity in specific, because it is science's biggest enemy: the one thing that science could never disprove, never classify or explain, never claim as their own. They hate Christianity because they fear it.</quote> Why would people be afraid of goofy, outlandish myths that are deliberately designed to be unprovable and beyond the realm of understanding? Religion isn't a weapon to being down science. It's a clever circumvention of it designed to control and/or comfort people. It makes the world simple and complicated at the same time? Why X? Because magical being beyond comprehension wanted it. Fortunately, the world is slowly growing out of religion. One millennia at a time.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Giblet_Enjoyer 05/04/17 3:56:23 AM #98:	Arcturus1121 posted... But what about XXY, XXX, and X. These are all very much so compatible with life. Do republicans think there are 5 sexes if we are going by chromosomes now? Idk what they think about those but yeah there's weird aberrations/inbetweens All I care about is the reproductive role, the vast majority fall neatly into the two basic categories while the rest are already described by the science --- He which make friends with scorpion, soon come to find out what a scorpion does - they bite people with its tail --ancient Chinese proverb <cite>Giblet_Enjoyer posted [p:878443944] in Liberal lo... [t:75308485]...</cite> <quote><cite>Arcturus1121 posted...</cite> <quote>But what about XXY, XXX, and X. These are all very much so compatible with life. Do republicans think there are 5 sexes if we are going by chromosomes now?</quote> Idk what they think about those but yeah there's weird aberrations/inbetweens All I care about is the reproductive role, the vast majority fall neatly into the two basic categories while the rest are already described by the science</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sphyx 05/04/17 4:01:20 AM #99:	Iwin2013 posted... Don't hivemind us. lmao, what a fucking clod! --- You're so vain, You probably think this sig is about you. <cite>Sphyx posted [p:878444048] in Liberal lo... [t:75308485]...</cite> <quote><cite>Iwin2013 posted...</cite> <quote>Don't hivemind us.</quote> lmao, what a fucking clod!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
prettyprincess 05/04/17 9:51:17 PM #100:	P4wn4g3 posted... Well it was a disclaimer for someone like you, who would jump at the chance to crucify someone who might look like they agree with his source. "otherwise YOU would assume things," he said, entirely inventing my thoughts --- And in an infinite regress, tell me, why is the pain of birth lighter borne than the pain of death? http://www.last.fm/user/followthegospel <cite>prettyprincess posted [p:878493414] in Liberal lo... [t:75308485]...</cite> <quote><cite>P4wn4g3 posted...</cite> <quote>Well it was a disclaimer for someone like you, who would jump at the chance to crucify someone who might look like they agree with his source.</quote> "otherwise YOU would assume things," he said, entirely inventing my thoughts</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
P4wn4g3 05/05/17 2:18:52 AM #101:	I mean, if the shoe fits. --- For problems with the site, start here: http://www.gamefaqs.com/feedback/index.php?type=37 <cite>P4wn4g3 posted [p:878505434] in Liberal lo... [t:75308485]...</cite> <quote>I mean, if the shoe fits.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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