Poll of the Day > So why are transgenders unnatural?

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Clench281 posted...

PrinceOfArabia posted...

Although homosexual behavior exist in the animal world, it's very uncommon that individual animals have a long-lasting predisposition to engage in such behavior to the exclusion of heterosexual activities.

Geneticists, anthropologists, developmental psychologists, sociologists, endocrinologists, neuroscientists, medical researchers into gender, and twin study researchers are in broad agreement about the role of genetics in homosexuality. Genes don’t make you do it. There is no genetic determinism, and genetic influence at most is minor. Thus it's "unnatural."

Homosexuality ain't genetic at all, if it were, homosexuality wouldn't have existed as of now. It would cause it's own extinction over the ages, not to mention how strongly it contradicts the Darwinian natural selection theory. That plus the obvious fact that identical twins should supposedly share the homosexuality gene 100% of the time, this isn't true however... As there's no homosexuality gene to begin with.

And before anyone replying with: "Not everything that is biological is genetic. Sexual orientation is biological even though it is not the product of a single gene." (quoted from a homosexual supporter I last debated)
This is not logical at all. If homosexuality were biological without having any genes, I can easily say that me loving Anime and JRPGs is biological without any "otaku gene" being in there.

In short: homosexuals aren't born homosexuals, but they're made homosexuals when they grew up. And as Dr. Hamer conceded (The creator of the gay gene hoax himself), homosexuality is culturally transmitted, not inherited.

How you think of homosexuality ethically is another subject. I personally don't support homosexuality, but I don't "hate" on homosexuals nor treat them differently from any other just because they believe that they're supposed to be that way.

from someone who actually understands evolution and genetics: this guy is full of it

Not to mention its completely off-topic when discussing transgenders. Granted, on the homosexual issue, there can be a nurture component.
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You can get nodded for saying no surgery will transform you into the opposite sex....I'd like to see the machine that makes the magical ding dings
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_AdjI_ posted...

By definition, nothing that humans do is natural. This includes reproducing, which means that every human on the planet is unnatural.

Well that was a stupid argument.

What you should have said was that since so much of what civilize society does is unnatural(clothing, technology, and what have you) that th question of whether transgenderism is natural is a pointless one.
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Lots of people have negative opinions about us. Personally, I feel natural.

Claude_Frollo posted...

_AdjI_ posted...

By definition, nothing that humans do is natural. This includes reproducing, which means that every human on the planet is unnatural.

Well that was a stupid argument.

What you should have said was that since so much of what civilize society does is unnatural(clothing, technology, and what have you) that th question of whether transgenderism is natural is a pointless one.

Sometimes Adjl doesn't even try to put effort into his spin. That post was like the kiddy bars of mental gymnastics.
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