Current Events > 44% of Americans don't pay income tax.

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meingott 04/19/17 2:44:26 PM #152:	Tmaster148 posted... TC complains about taxes going to help those who need it through welfare programs and yet wants UBI to happen. The problem here is that you don't know anything about UBI, as evidenced by your shitpost. Welfare and UBI are radically different. fan357 posted... But if you suddenly died or became disabled you couldn't provide for them. So f*** them right? If I die, life insurance policy. If I become disabled, sizable long-term disability policy. And you're still ignoring the fact that our own family is more important than someone else's family. --- These people are literally ignorant of the law. It's astounding. As the situation escalates I will come out victorious. - DawkinsNumber4 <cite>meingott posted [p:877505769] in 44% of Ame... [t:75255811]...</cite> <quote><cite>Tmaster148 posted...</cite> <quote>TC complains about taxes going to help those who need it through welfare programs and yet wants UBI to happen.</quote> The problem here is that you don't know anything about UBI, as evidenced by your shitpost. Welfare and UBI are radically different. <cite>fan357 posted...</cite> <quote>But if you suddenly died or became disabled you couldn't provide for them. So f*** them right? </quote> If I die, life insurance policy. If I become disabled, sizable long-term disability policy. And you're still ignoring the fact that our own family is more important than someone else's family.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tmaster148 04/19/17 2:46:01 PM #153:	meingott posted... Tmaster148 posted... TC complains about taxes going to help those who need it through welfare programs and yet wants UBI to happen. The problem here is that you don't know anything about UBI, as evidenced by your shitpost. Welfare and UBI are radically different. I'm perfectly aware what UBI is. I just find it funny how you can so against paying taxes and yet want UBI which will likely require higher taxes to pay for. --- http://i.imgur.com/BBcZDLJ.png <cite>Tmaster148 posted [p:877505893] in 44% of Ame... [t:75255811]...</cite> <quote><cite>meingott posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Tmaster148 posted...</cite> <quote>TC complains about taxes going to help those who need it through welfare programs and yet wants UBI to happen.</quote> The problem here is that you don't know anything about UBI, as evidenced by your shitpost. Welfare and UBI are radically different.</quote> I'm perfectly aware what UBI is. I just find it funny how you can so against paying taxes and yet want UBI which will likely require higher taxes to pay for.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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That_Happened 04/19/17 2:47:48 PM #155:	Also last thing from me. I don't understand how these two statments can coexist: merringott posted... at the expense of people not having kids they cant afford. if "muh childrenz" are gonna suffer because you can no longer ride on the back of singles and/or the childless, maybe you couldnt afford those kids. meingott posted... Hey man, maybe you're fine on your own but some of us have parents/siblings/cousins that need financial help. If you have siblings and cousins that need financial help, shouldn't their parents NOT have had children they couldn't afford like you said? Or on the other hand shouldn't you be in favor of them getting the help they need through taxpayer money so the burden is less on you? --- http://fusionanomaly.net/magnoliabutitdidhappen.jpg <cite>That_Happened posted [p:877506000] in 44% of Ame... [t:75255811]...</cite> <quote>Also last thing from me. I don't understand how these two statments can coexist: <cite>merringott posted...</cite> <quote>at the expense of people not having kids they cant afford. if "muh childrenz" are gonna suffer because you can no longer ride on the back of singles and/or the childless, maybe you couldnt afford those kids.</quote> <cite>meingott posted...</cite> <quote>Hey man, maybe you're fine on your own but some of us have parents/siblings/cousins that need financial help.</quote> If you have siblings and cousins that need financial help, shouldn't their parents NOT have had children they couldn't afford like you said? Or on the other hand shouldn't you be in favor of them getting the help they need through taxpayer money so the burden is less on you?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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fan357 04/19/17 2:55:51 PM #157:	I'm saying there's nothing wrong with helping people. Especially those with kids. You never know when you might need help down the road. --- Everything will be alright. <cite>fan357 posted [p:877506536] in 44% of Ame... [t:75255811]...</cite> <quote>I'm saying there's nothing wrong with helping people. Especially those with kids. You never know when you might need help down the road.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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That_Happened 04/19/17 2:59:32 PM #159:	fenderbender321 posted... Wouldn't it be wrong for people to go around and point guns at people and say "hey give us $100 so we can give it to those poor people who live over there" ...because that's basically what happens in society today, This is next level stupid. --- http://fusionanomaly.net/magnoliabutitdidhappen.jpg <cite>That_Happened posted [p:877506776] in 44% of Ame... [t:75255811]...</cite> <quote><cite>fenderbender321 posted...</cite> <quote> Wouldn't it be wrong for people to go around and point guns at people and say "hey give us $100 so we can give it to those poor people who live over there" ...because that's basically what happens in society today,</quote> This is next level stupid.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ampelas 04/19/17 3:01:05 PM #160:	That_Happened posted... fenderbender321 posted... Wouldn't it be wrong for people to go around and point guns at people and say "hey give us $100 so we can give it to those poor people who live over there" ...because that's basically what happens in society today, This is next level stupid. Fender is an ancap. That's next level stupid <cite>Ampelas posted [p:877506883] in 44% of Ame... [t:75255811]...</cite> <quote><cite>That_Happened posted...</cite> <quote><cite>fenderbender321 posted...</cite> <quote> Wouldn't it be wrong for people to go around and point guns at people and say "hey give us $100 so we can give it to those poor people who live over there" ...because that's basically what happens in society today,</quote> This is next level stupid.</quote> Fender is an ancap. That's next level stupid</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Antifar 04/19/17 3:04:39 PM #163:	He's actually correct about the force and implied violence that undergirds society. But the poor are not the primary beneficiaries of state violence. --- an aspirin the size of the sun. <cite>Antifar posted [p:877507102] in 44% of Ame... [t:75255811]...</cite> <quote>He's actually correct about the force and implied violence that undergirds society. But the poor are not the primary beneficiaries of state violence.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Webmaster4531 04/19/17 3:08:33 PM #165:	fenderbender321 posted... I should start debating politics like you guys... "You're stupid" "You're stupid" "You're stupid" "Ayn Rand" "You're stupid" There's a reason you hear that a lot. --- Ad Hominem. <cite>Webmaster4531 posted [p:877507318] in 44% of Ame... [t:75255811]...</cite> <quote><cite>fenderbender321 posted...</cite> <quote>I should start debating politics like you guys... "You're stupid" "You're stupid" "You're stupid" "Ayn Rand" "You're stupid"</quote> There's a reason you hear that a lot.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Webmaster4531 04/19/17 3:18:08 PM #167:	fenderbender321 posted... Don't expect to change anyone's mind using those debate tactics. Webmaster4531 posted... There's no teaching a laissez faire ancap. --- Ad Hominem. <cite>Webmaster4531 posted [p:877507919] in 44% of Ame... [t:75255811]...</cite> <quote><cite>fenderbender321 posted...</cite> <quote>Don't expect to change anyone's mind using those debate tactics.</quote> <cite>Webmaster4531 posted...</cite> <quote>There's no teaching a laissez faire ancap.</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
coldcuts 04/19/17 3:19:52 PM #168:	People who pay no tax are good peoples <cite>coldcuts posted [p:877508031] in 44% of Ame... [t:75255811]...</cite> <quote>People who pay no tax are good peoples</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
That_Happened 04/19/17 3:23:03 PM #169:	fenderbender321 posted... Don't expect to change anyone's mind using those debate tactics. Facts and articles were brought directly to you and you reacted to them by telling stories about how you think things should be, completely ignoring how they are. When one side of an argument refuses to join the argument with legitimate opinions backed by research it's no longer a debate. --- http://fusionanomaly.net/magnoliabutitdidhappen.jpg <cite>That_Happened posted [p:877508249] in 44% of Ame... [t:75255811]...</cite> <quote><cite>fenderbender321 posted...</cite> <quote>Don't expect to change anyone's mind using those debate tactics.</quote> Facts and articles were brought directly to you and you reacted to them by telling stories about how you think things should be, completely ignoring how they are. When one side of an argument refuses to join the argument with legitimate opinions backed by research it's no longer a debate.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DreamwaIker 04/19/17 3:36:51 PM #170:	meingott posted... the people who work less, produce less, and have more kids than the rest. I can't speak for other low-on-work-and-money people, but personally I see having kids as a financial impossibility. It seems like something that (absent of government support and/or just shit-poor living conditions) only the rich would be able to afford. --- Play my weird CYOA / Escape / Puzzle / whatever-else game "Escape the Hive!" https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/839-games-n-things/74859173 <cite>DreamwaIker posted [p:877509108] in 44% of Ame... [t:75255811]...</cite> <quote><cite>meingott posted...</cite> <quote>the people who work less, produce less, and have more kids than the rest.</quote> I can't speak for other low-on-work-and-money people, but personally I see having kids as a financial impossibility. It seems like something that (absent of government support and/or just shit-poor living conditions) only the rich would be able to afford.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DreamwaIker 04/19/17 4:03:53 PM #172:	Darkman124 posted... fenderbender321 posted... I say we pull the bandage off now and let the wound heal just to be clear when you remove the bandage, wounds don't heal. they fester, and then you die of gangrene. XD Great response. --- Play my weird CYOA / Escape / Puzzle / whatever-else game "Escape the Hive!" https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/839-games-n-things/74859173 <cite>DreamwaIker posted [p:877510790] in 44% of Ame... [t:75255811]...</cite> <quote><cite>Darkman124 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>fenderbender321 posted...</cite> <quote> I say we pull the bandage off now and let the wound heal</quote> just to be clear when you remove the bandage, wounds don't heal. they fester, and then you die of gangrene.</quote> XD Great response.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DreamwaIker 04/19/17 4:14:58 PM #173:	fenderbender321 posted... I have a bachelor's degree, and I hardly even had to try or go to class. It was so easy. I had a similar situation with my Bachelor's, but later in life I now regret that I didn't try. I don't think I handled the whole college opportunity the way it was supposed to be handled. --- Play my weird CYOA / Escape / Puzzle / whatever-else game "Escape the Hive!" https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/839-games-n-things/74859173 <cite>DreamwaIker posted [p:877511505] in 44% of Ame... [t:75255811]...</cite> <quote><cite>fenderbender321 posted...</cite> <quote>I have a bachelor's degree, and I hardly even had to try or go to class. It was so easy.</quote> I had a similar situation with my Bachelor's, but later in life I now regret that I didn't try. I don't think I handled the whole college opportunity the way it was supposed to be handled.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
emblem boy 04/19/17 4:23:37 PM #174:	What's happening in this topic --- Posted with GameRaven 3.2 <cite>emblem boy posted [p:877512032] in 44% of Ame... [t:75255811]...</cite> <quote>What's happening in this topic</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DreamwaIker 04/19/17 4:25:36 PM #175:	Darkman124 posted... people would kill and eat you Not if the rich first created robo-police to secure their power and keep the poor in situations resembling S1 Ep2 of Black Mirror (or wose, just let the poor die off without caring at all). I'm a little worried at some point when the rich have enough technology to aid them that climate change and overpopulation will be "solved" by getting rid of the non-rich. --- Play my weird CYOA / Escape / Puzzle / whatever-else game "Escape the Hive!" https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/839-games-n-things/74859173 <cite>DreamwaIker posted [p:877512160] in 44% of Ame... [t:75255811]...</cite> <quote><cite>Darkman124 posted...</cite> <quote>people would kill and eat you</quote> Not if the rich first created robo-police to secure their power and keep the poor in situations resembling S1 Ep2 of Black Mirror (or wose, just let the poor die off without caring at all). I'm a little worried at some point when the rich have enough technology to aid them that climate change and overpopulation will be "solved" by getting rid of the non-rich.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ssj3vegeta_ 04/19/17 4:26:48 PM #176:	Why do we pay taxes again --- http://i.imgur.com/P88EYmN.gif http://i.imgur.com/qxu2L01.jpg http://i.imgur.com/1kMCL.jpg http://i.imgur.com/mvXIh0Q.jpg <cite>ssj3vegeta_ posted [p:877512242] in 44% of Ame... [t:75255811]...</cite> <quote>Why do we pay taxes again</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
teepan95 04/19/17 4:36:33 PM #177:	DreamwaIker posted... Darkman124 posted... people would kill and eat you Not if the rich first created robo-police to secure their power and keep the poor in situations resembling S1 Ep2 of Black Mirror (or wose, just let the poor die off without caring at all). I'm a little worried at some point when the rich have enough technology to aid them that climate change and overpopulation will be "solved" by getting rid of the non-rich. Dream Are you feeling OK? --- http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/1060-homework-helpers - come drop by! Kendrick aka Compton's human sacrifice <cite>teepan95 posted [p:877512891] in 44% of Ame... [t:75255811]...</cite> <quote><cite>DreamwaIker posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Darkman124 posted...</cite> <quote> people would kill and eat you</quote> Not if the rich first created robo-police to secure their power and keep the poor in situations resembling S1 Ep2 of Black Mirror (or wose, just let the poor die off without caring at all). I'm a little worried at some point when the rich have enough technology to aid them that climate change and overpopulation will be "solved" by getting rid of the non-rich.</quote> Dream Are you feeling OK?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FLOUR 04/19/17 4:44:42 PM #178:	What's the point of paying when the term "income" isn't even defined in the IRS code book? -- --- May I speak to Abe Froman, the sausage king of Chicago? <cite>FLOUR posted [p:877513429] in 44% of Ame... [t:75255811]...</cite> <quote>What's the point of paying when the term "income" isn't even defined in the IRS code book? --</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Sativa_Rose 04/19/17 4:57:34 PM #180:	Remember when it was 47%? At least we're making progress right? --- I may not go down in history, but I will go down on your sister. <cite>Sativa_Rose posted [p:877514275] in 44% of Ame... [t:75255811]...</cite> <quote>Remember when it was 47%? At least we're making progress right?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Teran17 04/19/17 6:11:15 PM #181:	Federal Income Tax is unconstitutional --- Block out the pain, make your body grow <cite>Teran17 posted [p:877518814] in 44% of Ame... [t:75255811]...</cite> <quote>Federal Income Tax is unconstitutional</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DreamwaIker 04/19/17 11:24:12 PM #182:	teepan95 posted... DreamwaIker posted... Darkman124 posted... people would kill and eat you Not if the rich first created robo-police to secure their power and keep the poor in situations resembling S1 Ep2 of Black Mirror (or wose, just let the poor die off without caring at all). I'm a little worried at some point when the rich have enough technology to aid them that climate change and overpopulation will be "solved" by getting rid of the non-rich. Dream Are you feeling OK? Nothing particularly different today than usual. --- Play my weird CYOA / Escape / Puzzle / whatever-else game "Escape the Hive!" https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/839-games-n-things/74859173 <cite>DreamwaIker posted [p:877536705] in 44% of Ame... [t:75255811]...</cite> <quote><cite>teepan95 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>DreamwaIker posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Darkman124 posted...</cite> <quote> people would kill and eat you</quote> Not if the rich first created robo-police to secure their power and keep the poor in situations resembling S1 Ep2 of Black Mirror (or wose, just let the poor die off without caring at all). I'm a little worried at some point when the rich have enough technology to aid them that climate change and overpopulation will be "solved" by getting rid of the non-rich.</quote> Dream Are you feeling OK?</quote> Nothing particularly different today than usual.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 04/19/17 11:28:06 PM #183:	Teran17 posted... Federal Income Tax is unconstitutional No it isn't. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sixteenth_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:877536912] in 44% of Ame... [t:75255811]...</cite> <quote><cite>Teran17 posted...</cite> <quote>Federal Income Tax is unconstitutional</quote> No it isn't. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sixteenth_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Iodine 04/19/17 11:32:49 PM #184:	How is welfare and UBI any different? --- In Belichick we Trust <cite>Iodine posted [p:877537181] in 44% of Ame... [t:75255811]...</cite> <quote>How is welfare and UBI any different?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 04/19/17 11:35:23 PM #185:	Iodine posted... How is welfare and UBI any different? Means testing. A basic income that involves means-testing is just plain old welfare. <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:877537306] in 44% of Ame... [t:75255811]...</cite> <quote><cite>Iodine posted...</cite> <quote>How is welfare and UBI any different?</quote> Means testing. A basic income that involves means-testing is just plain old welfare.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DreamwaIker 04/20/17 1:14:25 AM #186:	fenderbender321 posted... .I just want to go camping and talk politics I'm not a fan of camping, but if you happen to be near Seattle I'm fine hanging out somewhere urban or semi-urban and discussing stuff. Heck, we could even go hiking in one of our many areas call nature even though it's surrounded by semiurban sprawl. --- Play my weird CYOA / Escape / Puzzle / whatever-else game "Escape the Hive!" https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/839-games-n-things/74859173 <cite>DreamwaIker posted [p:877541701] in 44% of Ame... [t:75255811]...</cite> <quote><cite>fenderbender321 posted...</cite> <quote>.I just want to go camping and talk politics</quote> I'm not a fan of camping, but if you happen to be near Seattle I'm fine hanging out somewhere urban or semi-urban and discussing stuff. Heck, we could even go hiking in one of our many areas call nature even though it's surrounded by semiurban sprawl.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DreamwaIker 04/20/17 1:16:09 AM #187:	Antifar posted... He's actually correct about the force and implied violence that undergirds society. But the poor are not the primary beneficiaries of state violence. Good post. --- Play my weird CYOA / Escape / Puzzle / whatever-else game "Escape the Hive!" https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/839-games-n-things/74859173 <cite>DreamwaIker posted [p:877541774] in 44% of Ame... [t:75255811]...</cite> <quote><cite>Antifar posted...</cite> <quote>He's actually correct about the force and implied violence that undergirds society. But the poor are not the primary beneficiaries of state violence.</quote> Good post.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MaverickXeo 04/20/17 1:18:47 AM #188:	Darkman124 posted... fenderbender321 posted... They need to change the tax code so that if you have kids, you have to pay more in taxes...because YOUR kids are the ones who are sucking up the resources from school and stuff. It makes no sense. To each their own. this is how you create poverty go fuck yourself It doesnt; it creates a declining population though. If people who cant afford kids didnt have kids, there would not be an increase in poverty. The problem is that people have kids and don't realize the cost associated with them. --- --- MaverickXeo --- <cite>MaverickXeo posted [p:877541862] in 44% of Ame... [t:75255811]...</cite> <quote><cite>Darkman124 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>fenderbender321 posted...</cite> <quote>They need to change the tax code so that if you have kids, you have to pay more in taxes...because YOUR kids are the ones who are sucking up the resources from school and stuff. It makes no sense. To each their own. </quote> this is how you create poverty go fuck yourself</quote> It doesnt; it creates a declining population though. If people who cant afford kids didnt have kids, there would not be an increase in poverty. The problem is that people have kids and don't realize the cost associated with them.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Teran17 04/20/17 4:37:17 AM #189:	Questionmarktarius posted... Teran17 posted... Federal Income Tax is unconstitutional No it isn't. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sixteenth_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution https://taxfoundation.org/today-history-income-tax-ruled-unconstitutional-pollock-v-farmers-loan-trust-co/ --- Block out the pain, make your body grow <cite>Teran17 posted [p:877547420] in 44% of Ame... [t:75255811]...</cite> <quote><cite>Questionmarktarius posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Teran17 posted...</cite> <quote>Federal Income Tax is unconstitutional</quote> No it isn't. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sixteenth_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution</quote> https://taxfoundation.org/today-history-income-tax-ruled-unconstitutional-pollock-v-farmers-loan-trust-co/</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Were_Wyrm 04/20/17 7:35:32 AM #190:	Teran17 posted... https://taxfoundation.org/today-history-income-tax-ruled-unconstitutional-pollock-v-farmers-loan-trust-co/ 1894 Questionmarktarius posted... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sixteenth_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution 1916 --- I was a God, Valeria. I found it...beneath me. - Dr. Doom http://i.imgur.com/9gYddqW.jpg <cite>Were_Wyrm posted [p:877550998] in 44% of Ame... [t:75255811]...</cite> <quote><cite>Teran17 posted...</cite> <quote> https://taxfoundation.org/today-history-income-tax-ruled-unconstitutional-pollock-v-farmers-loan-trust-co/</quote> 1894 <cite>Questionmarktarius posted...</cite> <quote>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sixteenth_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution</quote> 1916</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lorenzo_2003 04/20/17 7:45:41 AM #191:	fenderbender321 posted... So you're saying the police won't come to my house and try to arrest me if I don't pay my taxes? And that if I try to defend myself they won't shoot me? Because that's not my understanding on how it works... This is the truest truth that's ever been truthed. --- ... <cite>Lorenzo_2003 posted [p:877551226] in 44% of Ame... [t:75255811]...</cite> <quote><cite>fenderbender321 posted...</cite> <quote> So you're saying the police won't come to my house and try to arrest me if I don't pay my taxes? And that if I try to defend myself they won't shoot me? Because that's not my understanding on how it works...</quote> This is the truest truth that's ever been truthed.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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