Board 8 > Protests against US involvement in Syria around the US

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HanOfTheNekos
04/10/17 11:05:39 AM
#51:


Vlado posted...
but he's a far cry from US interventionalism in the last couple of centuries.


How much do you actually know of US history?
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Vlado
04/10/17 11:06:38 AM
#52:


foolm0r0n posted...
Nationalism NECESSARILY is pro-war.

And then zero proof in the statement that followed.

foolm0r0n posted...
But in reality, humans are naturally pro-migration

lmfao, no.

Jakyl25 posted...
Vlado, in your opinion, why has ISIS not yet been defeated in Syria?

The US until Trump covered their ass, and Russians have usually been more focused on fighting Al-Qaeda than ISIS.
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foolm0r0n
04/10/17 11:07:48 AM
#53:


Vlado posted...
And then zero proof in the statement that followed.

Every nationalist country has become embroiled in war

Where's your proof against the statement? You are incapable of providing proof, which is why you haven't provided any. You have blatantly admitted that you are wrong. Keep on lmfao'ing because that's all you can do with your life.
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Jakyl25
04/10/17 11:09:22 AM
#54:


Vlado posted...


lmfao, no.


Um, how do you think we got to all these different countries to start with?
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Espeon
04/10/17 11:16:19 AM
#55:


Jakyl25 posted...
Vlado posted...


lmfao, no.


Um, how do you think we got to all these different countries to start with?


Better point: the U.S., arguably the most powerful country on the planet, was literally founded on migration and merging hundreds of cultures together to create a powerful society.
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Vlado
04/10/17 11:22:52 AM
#56:


foolm0r0n posted...
Every nationalist country has become embroiled in war

At least in the last 2 centuries, large-scale wars have always been the result of international interests. The ongoing smaller-scale wars around the world are no different.

Espeon posted...
the U.S., arguably the most powerful country on the planet, was literally founded on migration and merging hundreds of cultures together to create a powerful society.

lol, no. It was founded by white people, subjects of the British crown who desired to become independent. They exclusively represented Western civilisation.

Jakyl25 posted...
Um, how do you think we got to all these different countries to start with?

Who is "we" and which countries did we "get" to?
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Jakyl25
04/10/17 11:27:19 AM
#57:


Vlado posted...
Who is "we" and which countries did we "get" to?


The human race

All of them except the cradle of civilization
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HanOfTheNekos
04/10/17 11:28:08 AM
#58:


Is genetic purity an international interest?

What about claiming more land?

What about defending your sovereign borders?
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Jakyl25
04/10/17 11:29:46 AM
#59:


In your opinion Vlado, what makes the colonization of America different than what ISIS is doing in Syria?
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Espeon
04/10/17 11:34:03 AM
#60:


We LITERALLY started this country by migration, and our big thing is opening arms to migrants from around the world. You know nothing about American culture.
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HanOfTheNekos
04/10/17 11:36:57 AM
#61:


We literally colonized the west by giving people free land to go out and migrate.

We told people across the seas that they could come be Americans and they'd get as much land as they could farm for free.
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Vlado
04/10/17 11:42:16 AM
#62:


Jakyl25 posted...
The human race

All of them except the cradle of civilization

The idea that all humans originated from a single place is top kek. It's one of the things that prove that a healthy dose of doubt in modern science is always good.

Jakyl25 posted...
In your opinion Vlado, what makes the colonization of America different than what ISIS is doing in Syria?

For one, the first time we had an advanced civilisation conquering a more primitive one. While ISIS is a primitive civilisation trying to conquer the more advanced one (the state of Syria).

HanOfTheNekos posted...
We literally colonized the west by giving people free land to go out and migrate.

We told people across the seas that they could come be Americans and they'd get as much land as they could farm for free.

Who are these "people across the seas"?
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Unknown_voter
04/10/17 11:42:57 AM
#63:


I feel like you guys know nothing about American culture. We "colonized" the west by committing mass genocide against the indigenous people who did not belong to our culture. Kind of like how Assad, Saddam, whoever, is not generally mass killing his own ethnic group or anyone who he considers his own people. Just some other culture that happens to live in the land he claims is his. We then gave people from specific western European nations a set amount of farm land (not "as much as they could farm") in return for being indentured servants for a few years, and brought over many other people from another culture that we bought to use as slave labor but did not consider Americans. You guys are painting like an elementary school history lesson picture of America.
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Vlado
04/10/17 11:44:29 AM
#64:


See, even commies know better than globalists.
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HanOfTheNekos
04/10/17 11:54:02 AM
#65:


Europeans, primarily.

Got more Chinese when we were actually in California.

Unknown_voter posted...
I feel like you guys know nothing about American culture. We "colonized" the west by committing mass genocide against the indigenous people who did not belong to our culture. Kind of like how Assad, Saddam, whoever, is not generally mass killing his own ethnic group or anyone who he considers his own people. Just some other culture that happens to live in the land he claims is his. We then gave people from specific western European nations a set amount of farm land (not "as much as they could farm") in return for being indentured servants for a few years, and brought over many other people from another culture that we bought to use as slave labor but did not consider Americans. You guys are painting like an elementary school history lesson picture of America.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homestead_Acts
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Espeon
04/10/17 11:56:25 AM
#66:


Why exactly do you believe humanity didn't originate in a single location? You bash science, but even in the Bible (which you cite as your basis for being against homosexuality), humanity began with Adam and Eve in the Garden of Eden. So unless you just don't WANT humanity to share a common ancestor in order to justify your pre-existing beliefs, why exactly is science wrong?
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foolm0r0n
04/10/17 11:58:14 AM
#67:


Vlado posted...
large-scale wars have always been the result of international interests

of nationalist states, yes
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Not_an_Owl
04/10/17 12:02:54 PM
#68:


foolm0r0n posted...
Vlado posted...
large-scale wars have always been the result of international interests

of nationalist states, yes

but you see nazi germany was actually globalist because
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Vlado
04/10/17 12:03:47 PM
#69:


HanOfTheNekos posted...
Europeans, primarily.

I rest my case.

HanOfTheNekos posted...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homestead_Acts

Quoting the guy and then posting something that only confirms what he said.

Not_an_Owl posted...
but you see nazi germany was actually globalist because

Because only Germany fought in that war... Get out of here.
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Peace___Frog
04/10/17 12:04:33 PM
#70:


Vlado posted...
lmfao

Condescending laughing leh meow
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foolm0r0n
04/10/17 12:05:23 PM
#71:


People keep forgetting that when Vlado mentions "nation" and "nationalism" he is talked about the White "nation", not actual nations
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Unknown_voter
04/10/17 12:06:54 PM
#72:


I am aware of the homestead acts. my point was that America has always had a consideration of what is "american", and while it has changed to encompass other groups, it certainly began with a very specific set of european backgrounds. Only with time, numbers, and significant fight has any group started to become considered "american" besides those, and even then they literally get specified as "african american" or "asian american" rather than just "american", aka white european. Just remember the dogwhistle "real america" shit the right pulls to remind people white europeans are the american culture, the rest of you just live here.

it should be noted that america is not the only country that does things similar to the homestead acts to accept other groups in return for farming land or what have you. most notably recently, russia has begun giving away land (with a similar 5 year requirement) to its citizens to go out east and farm, and will eventually open up the opportunity to foreigners.
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Vlado
04/10/17 12:07:31 PM
#73:


I'm talking about any nation. Philippines is obviously not a white nation, but their nationalist president is awesome.
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foolm0r0n
04/10/17 12:09:28 PM
#74:


Vlado posted...
I'm talking about any nation.

You're talking about Europeans being part of the United States nation because they are white, and actual citizens of the United States being foreign invaders because they are not white
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Not_an_Owl
04/10/17 12:12:46 PM
#75:


Vlado posted...
Not_an_Owl posted...
but you see nazi germany was actually globalist because

Because only Germany fought in that war... Get out of here.

Who started WW2 in Europe? For that matter, who started WW2 in the Pacific? Who were the aggressors?
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Espeon
04/10/17 12:14:37 PM
#76:


I'd just like to point out to unknown voter that white Europeans were not, historically, a homogenous group. Hence the different immigrant experiences for Irish, Italian, Polish, German, etc. immigrants. The point of our arguments is that America is, historically, a diverse nation built on the numerous unique cultures that either existed before Europeans arrived, were forcefully relocated here, or chose to migrate willingly.
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HanOfTheNekos
04/10/17 12:15:17 PM
#77:


Unknown_voter posted...
I am aware of the homestead acts. my point was that America has always had a consideration of what is "american", and while it has changed to encompass other groups, it certainly began with a very specific set of european backgrounds. Only with time, numbers, and significant fight has any group started to become considered "american" besides those, and even then they literally get specified as "african american" or "asian american" rather than just "american", aka white european. Just remember the dogwhistle "real america" shit the right pulls to remind people white europeans are the american culture, the rest of you just live here.

it should be noted that america is not the only country that does things similar to the homestead acts to accept other groups in return for farming land or what have you. most notably recently, russia has begun giving away land (with a similar 5 year requirement) to its citizens to go out east and farm, and will eventually open up the opportunity to foreigners.


So...

Your issue with what I said is that I didn't put a spin on it?

Because that's pretty nitpicky and doesn't actually further the conversation at all, considering your issues could've been assuaged by adding a few details to what I said.

It's like someone saying "we fought germany and japan in ww2" and you say "you're wrong, because you didn't include the other nations". Who gives a fuck. The homestead acts exist. The point was that tons of our country was colonized due to migration, which is a really 'duh' thing to say.
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foolm0r0n
04/10/17 12:15:45 PM
#78:


Espeon posted...
Hence the different immigrant experiences for Irish, Italian, Polish, German, etc. immigrants.

Those weren't considered white at the time
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Espeon
04/10/17 12:16:13 PM
#79:


foolm0r0n posted...
Espeon posted...
Hence the different immigrant experiences for Irish, Italian, Polish, German, etc. immigrants.

Those weren't considered white at the time


That was my point.
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Not_an_Owl
04/10/17 12:16:16 PM
#80:


Espeon posted...
I'd just like to point out to unknown voter that white Europeans were not, historically, a homogenous group. Hence the different immigrant experiences for Irish, Italian, Polish, German, etc. immigrants. The point of our arguments is that America is, historically, a diverse nation built on the numerous unique cultures that either existed before Europeans arrived, were forcefully relocated here, or chose to migrate willingly.

For a long time, Irish immigrants were not considered white in America.
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Weakupedia
04/10/17 12:18:40 PM
#81:


Vlado posted...
I never said Trump was perfect. He's human. Furthermore, he's not the end-all, be-all. He's just a stepping stone.

lmao this is the worst kind of damage control

the vlado kind
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HanOfTheNekos
04/10/17 12:34:29 PM
#82:


Hey Inviso, not all europeans were considered white back then
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Jakyl25
04/10/17 12:37:03 PM
#83:


Vlado posted...
The idea that all humans originated from a single place is top kek. It's one of the things that prove that a healthy dose of doubt in modern science is always good.


...how do YOU think humanity happened?
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TheRock1525
04/10/17 12:59:59 PM
#84:


Jakyl25 posted...
Vlado posted...
The idea that all humans originated from a single place is top kek. It's one of the things that prove that a healthy dose of doubt in modern science is always good.


...how do YOU think humanity happened?


Oh God are we gonna get creationism fanfic from Vlado?
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transcience
04/10/17 1:01:39 PM
#85:


Vlado, what is your opinion of Deus Ex: Human Revolution?
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Jakyl25
04/10/17 1:11:18 PM
#86:


TheRock1525 posted...
Jakyl25 posted...
Vlado posted...
The idea that all humans originated from a single place is top kek. It's one of the things that prove that a healthy dose of doubt in modern science is always good.


...how do YOU think humanity happened?


Oh God are we gonna get creationism fanfic from Vlado?


That's what I'm hoping!

The idea that Vlado rejects all anthropological AND Biblical sources for the story of how humanity populated the Earth is the revelation of this topic IMO
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lordloki12
04/10/17 1:24:36 PM
#87:


Jakyl25 posted...
TheRock1525 posted...
Jakyl25 posted...
Vlado posted...
The idea that all humans originated from a single place is top kek. It's one of the things that prove that a healthy dose of doubt in modern science is always good.


...how do YOU think humanity happened?


Oh God are we gonna get creationism fanfic from Vlado?


That's what I'm hoping!

The idea that Vlado rejects all anthropological AND Biblical sources for the story of how humanity populated the Earth is the revelation of this topic IMO


Most likely response is regional Adam and Eves. God sprinkled humanity onto the Earth like that last pinch of salt before the sauce is perfect.
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FigureOfSpeech
04/10/17 1:32:59 PM
#88:


vlado I need you to tell me everything you can about how to avoid catching globalism. is it airborne? waterborne? sexually transmitted? caused by vaccines? what would you recommend in order to avoid the disease?
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foolm0r0n
04/10/17 3:22:40 PM
#89:


TheRock1525 posted...
Oh God are we gonna get creationism fanfic from Vlado?

If he found someone to copy/paste it from like last time then maybe
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MoogleKupo141
04/10/17 3:28:51 PM
#90:


In the beginning, God placed the four races (white, black, Asian, good browns) in the four corners of the Earth and entrusted to each of them an elemental crystal to protect.

Meanwhile, Globalist Satan placed his chosen race, the bad browns, in the middle and gave them the Crystal of Darkness which possesses the power to destroy cultures and censor anime.
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foolm0r0n
04/10/17 3:35:46 PM
#91:


Satan created bad brown people, but God created women. So who is the true evil?
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Jakyl25
04/10/17 3:37:27 PM
#92:


God created women, but Satan created FEMINISM
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MegaWentEvil
04/10/17 3:41:33 PM
#93:


@foolm0r0n

There are good people and bad people in both genders.
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foolm0r0n
04/10/17 3:42:18 PM
#94:


MegaWentEvil posted...
@foolm0r0n

There are good people and bad people in both genders.

Proof?
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MegaWentEvil
04/10/17 3:46:03 PM
#95:


I hate how in GameFAQs, homophobia is not accepted, but sexism is. Both are equally UNACCEPTABLE TO ME!
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MoogleKupo141
04/10/17 3:46:09 PM
#96:


big if true
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MoogleKupo141
04/10/17 3:46:46 PM
#97:


MegaWentEvil posted...
I hate how in GameFAQs, homophobia is not accepted, but sexism is.


sounds like MWE wants more homophobia on GameFAQs
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MegaWentEvil
04/10/17 3:46:53 PM
#98:


Oh, yeah. And I didn't say it before(Because my account was in Purgatory), but I was rooting for Hillary to win.
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MegaWentEvil
04/10/17 3:47:37 PM
#99:


MoogleKupo141 posted...
sounds like MWE wants more homophobia on GameFAQs


Actually, I want neither. I just want sexism to be as unacceptable as homophobia on GameFAQs.
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FigureOfSpeech
04/10/17 4:49:31 PM
#100:


MegaWentEvil posted...
MoogleKupo141 posted...
sounds like MWE wants more homophobia on GameFAQs


Actually, I want neither. I just want sexism to be as unacceptable as homophobia on GameFAQs.


you should go to Bulgaria and abduct vlado, then give him gender reassignment surgery against his will. gamefaqs would find sexism much more unacceptable if vlado had a vagina.
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