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i dont think i have...but if i did then thats even funnier

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This one definitely came up before.

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that just shows how horrifying it really is

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Literally gets offended that people think he is so good that he has to have been personally blessed by the creator of the universe to be able to create something so good.

What a dumbass.

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My friend who is really good at guitar gets told something similar to that pretty often. It's funny because he plays satanic death metal.

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Is that a celebrity or just some random guy?

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My Immortal posted...

Is that a celebrity or just some random guy?

He's a celebrity of autism

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It's like the guy in the picture is staring right into--or slightly to the side of my soul.

Ok to make fun of people with autism, but not theists. Bravo.

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he's right though. people who are good at things aren't blessed, they just work hard at it

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Seafoam Green posted...

he's right though. people who are good at things aren't blessed, they just work hard at it

He's not right tho

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Seafoam Green posted...

he's right though. people who are good at things aren't blessed, they just work hard at it

for every successful person like this there are 10 others who also worked hard at it and failed, whether you believe it's from a deity or not to deny that talent is a gift is offensive and ignorant.

Seafoam Green posted...

he's right though. people who are good at things aren't blessed, they just work hard at it

What inspired him to work hard at it anyway? What gave him the strength to work hard, and what made it so he didn't happen to just outright suck at playing a musical instrument? Hell, what made it so he wasn't born into poverty and actually able to own a musical instrument?


Call it God, fall it fate, call it fortune, call it whatever, he didn't get where he was solely on his own.

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he didn't get where he was solely on his own.

Well, he didn't say that. He said god didn't give him his musical ability. through some genetic luck or some event that may have inspired him, he was drawn to music, and he worked hard and became good. I don't see why he shouldn't be proud that he worked hard for his ability.

nature is random, there's no such thing as "gifts"

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"I worked hard at basketball don't give any credit to my coach!"

What a dumb****. Don't attribute any of my success to anyone but me I'm so awesome. What a conceited scumbag.

Also, whatever you believe, to actually be offended by this is outrageous. Strap on your sack you little ***** how can something so simple offend you?

This guy needs to be slapped.

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Innate talent is hardly earned. No matter how much I practiced with an instrument, I could hardly equal any of the greats. I am just not talented in the area of music.

From: Seafoam Green | #017

I don't see why he shouldn't be proud that he worked hard for his ability.

He didn't work hard to be given an innate talent. He didn't work hard to not be born retarded. Whether you attribute that to God or nature, it's still not something he can feel accomplished about. He can be proud of his work, but to say that he's the only one responsible for his success is bulls***.

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"I worked hard at basketball don't give any credit to my coach!"

What a dumb****. Don't attribute any of my success to anyone but me I'm so awesome. What a conceited scumbag.


What? Uh, of course a basketball coach helps you get better at basketball. That analogy is turrible. He didn't say he got where he is today all by himself. He didn't say everything great is done through him. he said god didn't make him good at playing, that practice and hard work did.

he's right

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MZero11 posted...

"I worked hard at basketball don't give any credit to my coach!"

What a dumb****. Don't attribute any of my success to anyone but me I'm so awesome. What a conceited scumbag.

Also, whatever you believe, to actually be offended by this is outrageous. Strap on your sack you little ***** how can something so simple offend you?

This guy needs to be slapped.

It's silly that he's getting so offended, but the coach analogy assumes that God has an equally active role in peoples lives as a person who directly tells the players what to do all the time. That makes it a ****ing terrible analogy

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I'm not saying it's the same, just trying to make the point that someone or something attributed to his success, and he's trying to take all the credit for himself. There's so many little things that led him to where he is, and to get offended because someone says your blessed is just ridiculous.

If you don't believe in God just thank them for basically saying you're good at what you do, instead of being an ungrateful piece of crap and making a big deal out of it.

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MZero11 posted...

If you don't believe in God just thank them for basically saying you're good at what you do, instead of being an ungrateful piece of crap and making a big deal out of it.

Exactly.

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I don't really know what this is about but judging from that picture he doesn't try to take all the credit for himself, he just doesn't want it attributed to a myth.

sounds fair enough to me

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While it's true that he deserves credit for his effort, a certain part of his talent is probably innate, regardless of whether you call it a blessing from God or just a natural affinity.

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Senjougaharaism posted...

I don't really know what this is about but judging from that picture he doesn't try to take all the credit for himself, he just doesn't want it attributed to a myth.

sounds fair enough to me

Are you forgetting the part where he took a picture of himself and attached the quote to it and f***ing put it on the internet

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From: MISTERNICEWATCH | #026
Senjougaharaism posted...

I don't really know what this is about but judging from that picture he doesn't try to take all the credit for himself, he just doesn't want it attributed to a myth.

sounds fair enough to me

Are you forgetting the part where he took a picture of himself and attached the quote to it and f***ing put it on the internet
Or any other person could have taken/found the pic of him and put any quote next to it and ****ing put it on the internet.

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Seafoam Green posted...

he didn't get where he was solely on his own.

Well, he didn't say that. He said god didn't give him his musical ability. through some genetic luck or some event that may have inspired him, he was drawn to music, and he worked hard and became good. I don't see why he shouldn't be proud that he worked hard for his ability.

nature is random, there's no such thing as "gifts"

And that's what I'm talking about. The man himself worked hard for his ability, but something drew him to it in the first place. And as Bartz said he didn't do anything about being born with an inate talent, or not being boring with a mental problem.

Yes, there is such a thing as a gift, some people are just very good at something for no clear reason at all. Most people call it "natural talent". They didn't have to practice at something to be good at it, that's not how things usually work.


But seriously, he has no reason to be offended by this. No one gets anywhere in life by themself, all of us are influence by God/fate/luck in some way. Unless you're telling me he planned to walk down the path he walked when he was born, someone other than him played a hand in it.


Alternatively, he could be mistaking "God has blessed you with a musical talent" with "God is the only reason you're good at this, don't be proud" as opposed to the actual meaning.

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MarvelousGerbil posted...

From: MISTERNICEWATCH | #026
Senjougaharaism posted...

I don't really know what this is about but judging from that picture he doesn't try to take all the credit for himself, he just doesn't want it attributed to a myth.

sounds fair enough to me

Are you forgetting the part where he took a picture of himself and attached the quote to it and f***ing put it on the internet
Or any other person could have taken/found the pic of him and put any quote next to it and ****ing put it on the internet.

Except I can say with 100% confidence that that is not the case, so yeah, sorry

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So should we be banning top athletes for the use of Performance Enhancing Deities?

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well as I said that I have no idea what this is about, I obviously didn't know that.

but that's pretty dumb, yeah.

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From: MISTERNICEWATCH | #029

Except I can say with 100% confidence that that is not the case, so yeah, sorry
Proove it.

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From: MarvelousGerbil | #027

Or any other person could have taken/found the pic of him and put any quote next to it and ****ing put it on the internet.

nah there's a thread on reddit where people take pictures of themselves and put a quote like this

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MarvelousGerbil posted...

From: MISTERNICEWATCH | #029

Except I can say with 100% confidence that that is not the case, so yeah, sorry
Proove it.

it was an image from when the reddit atheist site took it upon themselves to upload bad photos of themselves with quotes of "superior logic" that they made themselves. i found myself on the site today looking for a quick laugh and found this (again, apparently)

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oh it's some guy on reddit?

he probably sucks at music

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From: Seafoam Green | #012

he's right though. people who are good at things aren't blessed, they just work hard at it

This is also false because I was able to do better on tests and homework than most of my classmates with little to no effort. I never worked hard at school and was still better than people that did work hard.

Explain this to me.

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He didn't work hard to be given an innate talent.

Music is not an 'innate talent', it is actually something you have to simply practice for years. If there's one thing that needs to die it's the idea that there's some kind of magic involved in musical talent that ordinary folks can't tap into - the dexterity is learned and the understanding is learned. The drive is internal. Anyone can do it.

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this guy should play a song for himself on the world's smallest violin

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_Zea_ posted...

this guy should play a song for himself on the world's smallest violin

WInning comment in this topic?

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From: Seginustemple | #037

He didn't work hard to be given an innate talent.

Music is not an 'innate talent', it is actually something you have to simply practice for years. If there's one thing that needs to die it's the idea that there's some kind of magic involved in musical talent that ordinary folks can't tap into - the dexterity is learned and the understanding is learned. The drive is internal. Anyone can do it.

Understanding is not learned at all. If it was, there's no way you'd ever understand understanding.

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Seginustemple posted...

He didn't work hard to be given an innate talent.

Music is not an 'innate talent', it is actually something you have to simply practice for years. If there's one thing that needs to die it's the idea that there's some kind of magic involved in musical talent that ordinary folks can't tap into - the dexterity is learned and the understanding is learned. The drive is internal. Anyone can do it.

Sure, but I'd say not everyone does it as fast or efficiently which is basically the whole point of discussion to be honest.

Example: There are people who can sing amazingly without ever having vocal practice.

I would call that talent, even if it is just because they're biologically lucky to have a good diaphragm and what not. Some people just have an advantage over others musically really. But I do agree that with drive anyone (physically and mentally capable to learn and play music) can do it!

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the only issue i have with stuff like this is that if God could be attributed with things like this, why can't he be blamed for bad s***?

like

"Thank you god that I didn't get a DUI or die last night, but you're a f***ing ass for letting me wreck my car in the first place. Dick."

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ExThaNemesis posted...

the only issue i have with stuff like this is that if God could be attributed with things like this, why can't he be blamed for bad s***?

like

"Thank you god that I didn't get a DUI or die last night, but you're a f***ing ass for letting me wreck my car in the first place. Dick."

Because God isn't responsible for your ****ups. Just as you have a choice in most of your good decisions, you have a choice in most of your bad. Alternatively: Crashing your car teaches you a lesson about drinking and driving, but luckily no one had to die in the process.

Plus hey, the Devil plays in the game of life as well you know? Temptation and all that jazz.

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Dark Young Link posted...

ExThaNemesis posted...

the only issue i have with stuff like this is that if God could be attributed with things like this, why can't he be blamed for bad s***?

like

"Thank you god that I didn't get a DUI or die last night, but you're a f***ing ass for letting me wreck my car in the first place. Dick."

Because God isn't responsible for your ****ups. Just as you have a choice in most of your good decisions, you have a choice in most of your bad. Alternatively: Crashing your car teaches you a lesson about drinking and driving, but luckily no one had to die in the process.

Plus hey, the Devil plays in the game of life as well you know? Temptation and all that jazz.

why would an all-powerful, benevolent god allow the devil to exist

/problem of evil debate gogogogo

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From: Dark Young Link | #044

Because God isn't responsible for your ****ups. Just as you have a choice in most of your good decisions, you have a choice in most of your bad. Alternatively: Crashing your car teaches you a lesson about drinking and driving, but luckily no one had to die in the process.

Plus hey, the Devil plays in the game of life as well you know? Temptation and all that jazz.

Why isn't God responsible for my f*** ups but is responsible for me being great at music?

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it would be more comparable to say why does god make you suck ass at things

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From: dethfdddddh | #045

why would an all-powerful, benevolent god allow the devil to exist

/problem of evil debate gogogogo

Without evil there is no good.

In the theory of moral relativism, at least.

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From: Seafoam Green | #012

he's right though. people who are good at things aren't blessed, they just work hard at it

This is also false because I was able to do better on tests and homework than most of my classmates with little to no effort. I never worked hard at school and was still better than people that did work hard.

Explain this to me.

Difference in quality of effort you did put in. 30 minutes of actual studying is more important than 5 hours of studying with the TV on while texting every few minutes which is what the average high school student calls studying. Then there is also the fact that most kids don't actually pay any attention or do any work in class. If you actually pay attention to lectures and then use all the free time teachers tend to give you in high school you should almost never have to do anything at home.

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why would an all-powerful, benevolent god allow the devil to exist


*Shrugs*


Why isn't God responsible for my f*** ups but is responsible for me being great at music?

1. You have free will
2. Typically the Devil is responsible for negative aspects.




But yeah, I haven't read The Bible in far too long so don't look at me for answers.


But you do have free will, so the responsiblity for your decisions, be they bad or good, falls upon you. Just saying something may have played a factor in what caused that situation to happen in the first place.

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