Board 8 > I want opinions on a family matter involving videogames

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Uglyface2
06/14/12 6:46:00 PM
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I live with my parents, my sister, and her four kids. The oldest one just "graduated" elementary school (that's the first seven years of school, roughly ages 5-12, for those of you unfamiliar with the US system). I happened to have a coupon for a Buy 2 get 1 Free on preowned games at Gamestop; I thought it would be a good gift to get my nephew a game with that.

His quack doctor wanted him off games for a while, so I held off for about a week. Eventually I saw him playing his DS again, so I asked my dad if it was ok to get him a game now. He hadn't heard anything about the doctor, so he had no opinion. I thought, alright, he's back on games now so I'll get him a game.

A little thing about my sister: she can be very controlling regarding her kids. What I had in mind for my nephew was something I didn't necessarily want to clear with her, because... well, she can get bats*** crazy about absolutely anything.

One afternoon, I took my nephew out to McDonald's, bought him a shake, and I had a chat with him about junior high and some of the things people never told me. Afterward, I took him to Gamestop to get him the game. I was disappointed in his selection, but oh well, it didn't cost me anything but a coupon.

I asked him to keep the game a secret. I didn't want his mother finding out I'd taken him out.

What happened next is the problem: apparently, he ratted me out that very day. My mother just told me about it tonight, and while my sister is apparently very composed (for her) about the whole thing, I'm ready for her to go nuts about it.

My mother thinks my nephew acted with integrity and is proud of him. I think he stabbed me in the back in one of those situations where you don't tell your mother something. My mother can't understand why I'm angry about it.

Who's right? Was it right for me to get my nephew the game and ask him not to squeal about it, or was he right for running to Mommy so he could get a pat on the head and play the game, too?
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McBonesII
06/14/12 6:50:00 PM
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From: Uglyface2 | #001
or was he right for running to Mommy so he could get a pat on the head and play the game, too?



Why are they letting him keep the game, exactly? That seems awfully hypocritical of them.

Not much you can do about this situation, but screw that kid, don't get him anything anymore, fool me once etc.

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WaIker
06/14/12 6:51:00 PM
#3:


If he just graduated elementary then it probably went like this:

*kid playing game*
*mom asks where he got it*
*he says uncle uglyface got it because he sucks at lying*

Sooo yeah you probably actually set yourself up for that one

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pjbasis
06/14/12 6:52:00 PM
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If he had a problem with what you were doing he should have just said so up front.

That was a d*** move he pulled.

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MZero11
06/14/12 6:52:00 PM
#5:


This whole situation is messed up. WTF is a quack doctor? and you should be able to buy your nephew a video game without family drama.

This is all kinds of wrong.

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Tsunbiribiri
06/14/12 6:54:00 PM
#6:


Wait, the kid got to keep the game?

Quack doctor for what exactly?

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SantaRPidgey
06/14/12 6:55:00 PM
#7:


Are you seriously going to fault the kid for being honest with his mother?

Really?
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Uglyface2
06/14/12 6:58:00 PM
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I'm calling the doctor a quack because of some unfounded opinions I have of him. He took away my nephew's videogames in an effort to address some aggression issues in him (ok so far, got to try different stuff), but he completely forgot to have it replaced with something else. He left my nephew without a pretty big pastime and a gaping hole in his schedule, which to me is more "punishment" than "treatment".
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Uglyface2
06/14/12 6:59:00 PM
#9:


SantaRPidgey posted...
Are you seriously going to fault the kid for being honest with his mother?

Really?


"Alright, now don't tell your mother you've got this, ok?" (Trying to avoid a fight)
"OK."

A few hours later:

"HAY MOMZ GESS WAT?!"
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Jeff Zero
06/14/12 7:00:00 PM
#10:


Do you uh, know for a fact that's even how it went?

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Uglyface2
06/14/12 7:05:00 PM
#11:


He wasn't caught playing it, he actively went and told his mother. He didn't have a box for it lying around or anything (it was cartridge only).
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SBell0105
06/14/12 7:09:00 PM
#12:


are you really freaking out because a 12 year old didn't keep a secret from his mother?

You blatantly told your 12 year old nephew to lie to his mother, what makes you think you are held in a higher esteem than his parents?

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MZero11
06/14/12 7:10:00 PM
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Durr hurr he has anger problems take away his video games

Is this guy his doctor or his ****ing parent?

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Tsunbiribiri
06/14/12 7:11:00 PM
#14:


Now now.

Perhaps the kid is horrible at games and him constantly failing is the cause.

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Uglyface2
06/14/12 7:12:00 PM
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Lying to his mother and simply not telling his mother something are two different things. And if he thinks this kind of s*** isn't going to get the crap beaten out of him in middle school... well, he's got some serious pain on the way.
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pjbasis
06/14/12 7:13:00 PM
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12 year olds are not 5 year olds guys.

Give them some credit to think for themselves.

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SBell0105
06/14/12 7:15:00 PM
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From: Uglyface2 | #015
Lying to his mother and simply not telling his mother something are two different things. And if he thinks this kind of s*** isn't going to get the crap beaten out of him in middle school... well, he's got some serious pain on the way.

You took her son out, bought him food, bought him a videogame and then said "Now don't tell your mother". You are literally trying to give him reason to not like her. She should be ripping you a new butthole right now. For having the nerve to say such a thing to him. You were fine up until the point where you told the kid to keep the secret from his mother.

HE'S TWELVE! He's still a child. And you are wrong here.

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ShadowHalo17
06/14/12 7:17:00 PM
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This is just a stupidly ridiculous situation. How old are you and how old is your sister?

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Psycho_Kenshin
06/14/12 7:21:00 PM
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I was cool enough to hide stuff like that, various cool things they might object to from parents at 12. We're talking almost in middle school/ Junior High.

I'll agree with Uglyface that the kid unfortunately was not quite as cool as he had hoped. Hopefully the youngster cools up sometime.

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MrGreenonion
06/14/12 7:30:00 PM
#20:


He was probably just cheesed off that he was supposed to be getting a present and you bought yourself more games than him. Don't be a cheapskate!

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Grand Kirby
06/14/12 7:39:00 PM
#21:


The kid's choice is kind of irrelevant to me. You shouldn't have put him a situation like that. Even if you were trying to do something nice for him, telling him to keep secrets from his mother isn't exactly good behavior.

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TVontheRadio
06/14/12 7:47:00 PM
#22:


Grand Kirby posted...
The kid's choice is kind of irrelevant to me. You shouldn't have put him a situation like that. Even if you were trying to do something nice for him, telling him to keep secrets from his mother isn't exactly good behavior.


yeah that

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Psycho_Kenshin
06/14/12 8:06:00 PM
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Can't say I relate to you two gents. I guess you didn't have Doom installed on you or your friends PCs in grade school? Well it didn't do anybody harm. ;-)

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Tsunbiribiri
06/14/12 8:09:00 PM
#24:


What does Doom have anything to with this?

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Psycho_Kenshin
06/14/12 8:11:00 PM
#25:


Well, I was anecdotally pointing out when I was a youth things like say having Doom installed on your computer and passing it around, and hiding it from parents, was normal. And a fine thing.

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MarvelousGerbil
06/14/12 8:12:00 PM
#26:


Should have gotten him something like Layton or Brain Age and just told the mom about it. "Hey it's a game he can enjoy and it has good educational value. Nothing too violent or overstimulating or whatever people are demonizing games for these days.

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pjbasis
06/14/12 8:13:00 PM
#27:


Seriously it's weird how many people are jumping to the parents side over a video game.

The kid probably has to go to the doctor because of them in the first place.

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BlackMetalex
06/14/12 8:13:00 PM
#28:


Yeah, I'm with Kenshin on this. Lying to your parents is like a necessity of childhood. I can't imagine being that kid and ratting my Uncle out for giving me a gift like that. In any case, he should have objected before accepting the gift.
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Grand Kirby
06/14/12 8:17:00 PM
#29:


It's not like I didn't lie or hide stuff from my parents tons of times growing up, but I can't really empathize with someone who tells a kid to hide something from their mom, especially for such a poor reason.

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TVontheRadio
06/14/12 8:29:00 PM
#30:


well, i'm more for just not interfering with other people's families

his discrediting of the doctor as a quack based on "unfounded opinions" doesn't really help his case

i've hidden and continue to hide a lot of things from my parents but i can't honestly say they've all been for the better!

besides, we don't have a clear picture of the situation and just describing one's sister being "bats*** crazy" lends me to believe not everything is being said

whatever, he got caught and it's clear that the kid will be sticking with his mom

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TheRock1525
06/14/12 8:38:00 PM
#31:


I think being honest with your sister should have been the first route. "Hey, I see your son/my nephew is playing video games again, is it OK to buy him a game?" I mean, if the kid's had video games taken away from his due to aggressive tendencies, you should take that into consideration when buying him a present.

There's absolutely nothing wrong with the kid deciding to be honest with his mother. Sure, kids often decide to keep secrets but you have no one to blame but yourself for trying to go a deceptive route. You could have been straightforward with her and saved yourself a big headache. Now you're stuck in a situation you could have easily avoided.

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TheRock1525
06/14/12 8:39:00 PM
#32:


I mean, let's be honest: if you gave the kid a Playboy and then told him not to tell his mother, and he ended up telling her, should you really blame the mom?

Also, what game did he pick?

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pjbasis
06/14/12 8:43:00 PM
#33:


If my dad caught me with a playboy at 12 or 13 he would probably be thinking "not gay" before getting mad at anything.

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Wanglicious
06/14/12 8:50:00 PM
#34:


....man, some of you guys forgot what it was like to be a kid already i see.
the kid's 12. yes, he's lied to his parents by now, on multiple things. that's normal.

and it's a dick move by the kid. sucks that he ratted on you. to answer the questions:
yes, he did stab you in the back and it's right for you to be mad.
it wasn't necessarily right for you to get the game.
it wasn't right for him to squeal either.

so the lesson of the story is the kid doesn't really like you.

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ImTheMacheteGuy
06/14/12 9:03:00 PM
#35:


SBell0105 posted...
From: Uglyface2 | #015
Lying to his mother and simply not telling his mother something are two different things. And if he thinks this kind of s*** isn't going to get the crap beaten out of him in middle school... well, he's got some serious pain on the way.

You took her son out, bought him food, bought him a videogame and then said "Now don't tell your mother". You are literally trying to give him reason to not like her. She should be ripping you a new butthole right now. For having the nerve to say such a thing to him. You were fine up until the point where you told the kid to keep the secret from his mother.

HE'S TWELVE! He's still a child. And you are wrong here.


I lied about s*** to my parents long before I turned 12 and I didn't even have some negative influence encouraging such behavior. Don't really see what the big deal is. You're acting like the dude molested his nephew then told him not to tell. THEN he'd be in the wrong. Here, just seems like the kid is a dumbass but whatever, sister is a crazy person who should be dealt with through the "out-crazy the crazy" maneuver, mother is... well I guess entitled to her opinion, doctor is bad at his job and topic creator should probably just talk to his nephew about what happened. Any flipping out on anyone's part here would be in the wrong imo because it really doesn't seem to me like anything in the scenario is a big deal in any way and it should all just be moved on from after brief casual talks that probably result in something along the lines of "was a misunderstanding." Also, recommend a doctor with head on his neck instead of up his a******

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SBell0105
06/14/12 9:06:00 PM
#36:


From: ImTheMacheteGuy | #035
I lied about s*** to my parents long before I turned 12 and I didn't even have some negative influence encouraging such behavior

This isn't a good thing.

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Wanglicious
06/14/12 9:11:00 PM
#37:


nor is it a bad thing. content determines that, but the mere act of lying is neutral. seriously, kids lie. they do it all the time and to everyone. if you're a year or two away from growing hair on your balls and haven't lied to your parents once, you have a major, major problem.

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SBell0105
06/14/12 9:13:00 PM
#38:


however, encouraging a 12 year old to keep a secret from his mother (regardless of what the secret entails, ImTheMacheteGuy) is wrong.

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MrGreenonion
06/14/12 9:14:00 PM
#39:


Kids lie but that isn't an excuse to encourage it.

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blindhobo13
06/14/12 9:16:00 PM
#40:


This is what you get for trying to be nice to a kid.

Lesson: Don't be nice to kids.
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foolm0ron
06/14/12 9:16:00 PM
#41:


You legitimately got trolled by a 12 year old, and you are crying about it on the internet. Time to re-evaluate your life.

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Drakeryn
06/14/12 9:18:00 PM
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I think it really depends on age. If you're in sixth grade, and a fellow sixth-grader gives you a game, telling on him is a jerk move because you could be getting him in trouble with his mom. But if an adult gives you a game, and you tell on him -- he's an adult. He can deal. It's not like his mom is going to ground him.

So yeah, seconding question about how old Uglyface is.


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Wanglicious
06/14/12 9:18:00 PM
#43:


nah. could be wrong, could be right. most likely is neutral because, again, the contents matter. if he was telling him 'hey don't tell your mom that i gave you this penny' then it could be right because who the hell cares or brags about a damn penny. if it's 'hey don't tell your mom about this weed' then it's wrong but not because of the mom-telling, it's wrong because he shouldn't be giving the kid weed. generally, either it's wrong to give to the kid in the first place or not.

the not telling parents doesn't have anything to do with that. people keep secrets, that's fine. normal. kids keep secrets between themselves, that's fine. normal. same for family, which is the case here, and was expected to be cool with the kid. he's not this blank slate if he's 12 or something, he can think for himself by then.

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Ayuyu
06/14/12 9:18:00 PM
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What was the game? It's important.

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saveus_Maria
06/14/12 9:19:00 PM
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oh look another topic where board 8 user #8953 gets themself into a dumb situation due to their complete inability to interact with people in a direct manner and then blames everyone else once they are in that situation they created for themself

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Wanglicious
06/14/12 9:20:00 PM
#46:


psh, it's a jerk move regardless of which. hell, if he's an adult he can get me more games unlike the snobby 12 year old, and he'll prob be more cool about it!

if he gets in trouble he can hang, but until then...

(point is the kid was dumb.)

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MarvelousGerbil
06/14/12 9:20:00 PM
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Why was he not supposed to be playing video games? Kid could have epilepsy or something.

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pjbasis
06/14/12 9:22:00 PM
#48:


From: SBell0105 | #038
however, encouraging a 12 year old to keep a secret from his mother (regardless of what the secret entails, ImTheMacheteGuy) is wrong.


What's with you and these absolute statements regarding a child and it's parent?
Do you think all parents are good?

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ImTheMacheteGuy
06/14/12 9:23:00 PM
#49:


SBell0105 posted...
From: ImTheMacheteGuy | #035
I lied about s*** to my parents long before I turned 12 and I didn't even have some negative influence encouraging such behavior

This isn't a good thing.


why? I avoided punishment that would have only led to me acting out in more extreme ways, directly or indirecting hurting them as well as myself further. I was (and basically still am) undiscipilinable if that's a word. I would punch holes in walls and break my toys at as young as 4 (and I don't even remember this. I've heard stories). I was never particularly defiant, I just didn't tolerate being punished and didn't really do things I felt I should be punished for. And if I did something I knew I WOULD be punished for, I made sure it was not found out and would deny if it was. For all the stress I caused my parents over the years, there's countless times more stress that I saved them. It's not like I was dishonest for the sake of being dishonest.

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Ayuyu
06/14/12 9:23:00 PM
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Also that's what you get for dealing with kids.

You NEVER deal with kids unless they're your own.

Kids are the bane of the world and we all know it.

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