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vcharon 01/07/12 3:46:00 PM #51: |
I hadn't heard of Mordin being playable, just of him being in the game (though everyone is). I think BioWare has said some characters will be temporarily playable or playable for just one instance.
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LeonhartFour 01/07/12 3:47:00 PM #52: |
ME2's cast was pretty great aside from Jack (who was awful) and Jacob (who was just...there).
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vcharon 01/07/12 3:49:00 PM #53: |
I enjoyed everyone in ME2 really. I really hope Kaidan isn't as boring as he was in ME1 or I am going to be terribly disappointed with the crew (not big on Liara as it is). I'm sure Garrus and Tali will be my party again anyway, so at least there's that.
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foolm0ron 01/07/12 3:49:00 PM #54: |
From: ZFS | #036 Right, this is the only reason anyone can use to say ME1 is better And if you think one game is better than another simply because of the genre it is in then stop playing games -- _foolmo_ 'he says listen to my story this maybe are last chance' - ertyu quoting Tidus ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ZFS 01/07/12 3:51:00 PM #55: |
oh.
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Anagram 01/07/12 3:52:00 PM #56: |
LeonhartFour posted...
I'm pretty sure all of ME2's characters will have a role in ME3! I know, but they might just get effective cameos like Wrex in ME2. And Jacob is awful. I don't know why Bioware insists on including on "generic guy with a tragic event in his backstory who gets wrapped up in craziness" in every single game they make. It started with Carth Onasi, continued with Atton Rand (though he's actually interesting), continued with Sky and Casavir, happened with Kaiden (who was even more generic than Carth, which is an accomplishment), and then they added Jacob. I have to give the DA series credit in that no one really fits that mold except maybe Aveline. -- Not changing this sig until I decide to change this sig. Started: July 6, 2005 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LeonhartFour 01/07/12 3:53:00 PM #57: |
From: Anagram | #056 How does that make them "irrelevant" to the overall plot? Is Wrex irrelevant to ME's plot? -- "So cold. I am always by your side." "There ain't no gettin' off of this train we on!" ... Copied to Clipboard!
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foolm0ron 01/07/12 3:55:00 PM #58: |
From: LeonhartFour | #057 Yes From: Anagram | #056 Easy, it makes everyone else look better. -- _foolmo_ 'You are obviously intelligent and insightful' - Sir Chris about me ... Copied to Clipboard!
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vcharon 01/07/12 3:56:00 PM #59: |
Wrex in Mass Effect 2 was a proper way of taking a playable character and making them unplayable for a good reason. I just doubt they can do that with everyone from Mass Effect 2.
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smitelf 01/07/12 3:57:00 PM #60: |
From: foolm0ron | #054 Yeah, if you prefer the gameplay of some genres over others, then don't play any games ever! -- Official Queen ***** of the Universe! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Anagram 01/07/12 3:58:00 PM #61: |
LeonhartFour posted...
Is Wrex irrelevant to ME's plot? Well... yeah. You can literally remove him and almost nothing changes. I mean, literally, as in a game import without Wrex isn't significantly different from one with Wrex. I like Wrex and everything, but he's not even close to important in ME2. -- Not changing this sig until I decide to change this sig. Started: July 6, 2005 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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PartOfYourWorld 01/07/12 3:59:00 PM #62: |
I swear to god you guys better not be ****-talking on Carth ****ing Onasi. Kaiden and Jacob sure, but Carth was the man. THE ****ING MAN.
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smitelf 01/07/12 4:01:00 PM #63: |
From: PartOfYourWorld | #062 I really liked Carth, but every time Bioware copies his archetype, they make it worse. -- Official Queen ***** of the Universe! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ZFS 01/07/12 4:02:00 PM #64: |
And just to be clear, I think ME2 is a fine game. I have problems with it, but I don't think it's bad. It's just a preference for the tone and style of the original. It hooked me in a way that ME2 didn't for the reasons I listed. Yeah, ME2's cast had more characters and more of a focus on them, but the best ones from the game are still the crew from the original. Ashley and Kaidan were junk, for sure, but ME2 had its duds all the same.
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LeonhartFour 01/07/12 4:03:00 PM #65: |
From: ZFS | #064 Then that makes all of ME1's good characters playable in ME2 anyway except for Wrex! -- http://i43.tinypic.com/dgwh0.gif http://www.majhost.com/gallery/atukam/OHWD/snownd.gif ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TheRock1525 01/07/12 4:04:00 PM #66: |
ME1 is a third person shooter with RPG elements.
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ZFS 01/07/12 4:04:00 PM #67: |
Wrex was a big loss. You don't even know until you've had the "Wrex." "Shepard." conversations tbqh
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LeonhartFour 01/07/12 4:06:00 PM #68: |
From: ZFS | #067 Good thing they put in someone who can fill that role in for ME2! -- "Why must we always choose between certain death and probable death?" "I'm in an epic battle to the death, FIGURE IT OUT YOURSELF!" ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TheRock1525 01/07/12 4:07:00 PM #69: |
My issue with a lot of the ME1 cast is they were less individual characters and more "mouth pieces for their species."
Like Tali. I don't know s*** about Tali after talking to her, just a lot about her people. It's why she's so much better in ME2. -- TheRock ~ Slow dramatic zoom-pan. Doesn't phase the hooded man. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LeonhartFour 01/07/12 4:08:00 PM #70: |
From: TheRock1525 | #069 Man who cares Tali can talk about whatever she wants all day long and I'll listen Dat accent -- http://www.gifsoup.com/view/593815/frasier-and-niles-dance-o.gif ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TheRock1525 01/07/12 4:08:00 PM #71: |
I mean, when Ash is the only character that actually talks about her personal life in detail, and even then it's more about the military than anything, I find myself quickly bored with these people.
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smitelf 01/07/12 4:08:00 PM #72: |
There is an upside to Ashley and Kaiden being trash. Imagine having to choose between Tali and Garrus instead...
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TheRock1525 01/07/12 4:08:00 PM #73: |
LeonhartFour posted...
From: TheRock1525 | #069 My issue with a lot of the ME1 cast is they were less individual characters and more "mouth pieces for their species." Like Tali. Man who cares Tali can talk about whatever she wants all day long and I'll listen Dat accent I see you're a Talimancer. I weep for you. -- TheRock ~ Slow dramatic zoom-pan. Doesn't phase the hooded man. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ZFS 01/07/12 4:09:00 PM #74: |
Are you comparing Grunt to Wrex. Sounds like someone who hasn't played ME1!
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TheRock1525 01/07/12 4:09:00 PM #75: |
smitelf posted...
There is an upside to Ashley and Kaiden being trash. Imagine having to choose between Tali and Garrus instead... Garrus. All day, every day. -- TheRock ~ Slow dramatic zoom-pan. Doesn't phase the hooded man. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ZFS 01/07/12 4:10:00 PM #76: |
smitelf posted...
There is an upside to Ashley and Kaiden being trash. Imagine having to choose between Tali and Garrus instead... This is true. -- "When I was a young man, I had liberty, but I did not see it. I had time, but I did not know it." ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LeonhartFour 01/07/12 4:10:00 PM #77: |
From: ZFS | #074 Well, if all you care about from Wrex is "Shepard," then Grunt fills that role! That's all I'm saying! -- http://img600.imageshack.us/img600/8718/leonflowchart.png ... Copied to Clipboard!
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RyokIes 01/07/12 4:10:00 PM #78: |
oh no, leon's a talimancer nooooo
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LeonhartFour 01/07/12 4:10:00 PM #79: |
Whoa Tali hatin' in here
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vcharon 01/07/12 4:10:00 PM #80: |
Wrex is better in ME2 and isn't playable. Maybe it was a good thing.
Also, I don't get how people fall back on the "they are a mouthpiece for their race" thing in ME1. They talk about themselves plenty. Tali talks a lot about the quarian pilgrimage because that *is* her #1 goal in life for ME1. -- Save My contests are awful, without exception. Timjab is an amazing user, the eeveelutions suck, mark sanchez is the best qb in the league, and it wasn't Brock. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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PartOfYourWorld 01/07/12 4:11:00 PM #81: |
Liaramancer 4life
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vcharon 01/07/12 4:11:00 PM #82: |
Don't worry Leon, you aren't alone!
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TheRock1525 01/07/12 4:15:00 PM #83: |
Not a hater, just think she's not that great in ME1!
She's a lot better in ME2. Also, I don't get how people fall back on the "they are a mouthpiece for their race" thing in ME1. They talk about themselves plenty. Tali talks a lot about the quarian pilgrimage because that *is* her #1 goal in life for ME1. That's because the pilgrimage is one of the most important aspects of her society! -- TheRock ~ Slow dramatic zoom-pan. Doesn't phase the hooded man. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TheRock1525 01/07/12 4:16:00 PM #84: |
Leon, this is you:
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RyokIes 01/07/12 4:16:00 PM #85: |
someone needs to break out the tali's sweat image
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RyokIes 01/07/12 4:16:00 PM #86: |
oh dammit
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PartOfYourWorld 01/07/12 4:16:00 PM #87: |
WHY DOES NO ONE ANALYZE THE CHEMISTRY OF LIARA'S SWEAT
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LeonhartFour 01/07/12 4:17:00 PM #88: |
looks like false correlation to me
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TheRock1525 01/07/12 4:17:00 PM #89: |
Blue people don't sweat, yo. Their blue would run.
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ZFS 01/07/12 4:20:00 PM #90: |
Hooooooly crap. I like Tali, but what.
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foolm0ron 01/07/12 4:20:00 PM #91: |
From: vcharon | #080 Exactly, like every other Quarian. She's uninteresting. There is nothing that makes her different from any other random Quarian in ME1. Okay, she great with tools, but apparently that's a racial thing too. Same with all the other members. Any Krogan could be Wrex, any human could be Kaidan, any Asari could be Liara. Garrus and Ashley are at least somewhat different because one is a cop and one is racist, but 1 personality trait doesn't really make for a good character imo. In ME2, they have actual identities. What makes Tali special? She's ****ing exiled. How many other Quarians are exiled? ZERO. Liara is a super smart and conniving accountant or whatever instead of a stripper like all other Asaris. etc. -- _foolmo_ 'and out of the blue and completely unprovoked came foolmo and his insult' - Anagram ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TheRock1525 01/07/12 4:21:00 PM #92: |
ZFS posted...
Hooooooly crap. I like Tali, but what. This is your first time hearing about Talimancers? -- TheRock ~ Slow dramatic zoom-pan. Doesn't phase the hooded man. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ZFS 01/07/12 4:22:00 PM #93: |
I don't really associate with the Mass Effect, or apparently Bioware, fanbase all that often. Who knew!
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TheRock1525 01/07/12 4:22:00 PM #94: |
foolmo knows what's up.
Edit: Tali actually talks about her family more than how they fit into the Quarian system, too. She actually talks about them like they're actually family members instead of members of her society. -- TheRock ~ Slow dramatic zoom-pan. Doesn't phase the hooded man. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LeonhartFour 01/07/12 4:23:00 PM #95: |
Rock seems to be acting like this kind of nonsense is exclusive to Tali fans!
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PartOfYourWorld 01/07/12 4:23:00 PM #96: |
From: foolm0ron | #090 Asari is the most powerful race in the galaxy outside Reapers. Them strippers got clout. -- Yoblazer: http://8board.webs.com/ariel.jpg Watch and you'll see... SuperNiceDog own me... in the Guru! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ZFS 01/07/12 4:24:00 PM #97: |
Can't say I'm a fan of Liara in either game. She's the definition of boring, though she got a bit better in Shadow Broker.
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TheRock1525 01/07/12 4:24:00 PM #98: |
LeonhartFour posted...
Rock seems to be acting like this kind of nonsense is exclusive to Tali fans! Within the Mass Effect fanbase? Yes. Well, Garrus romancers are bad, too. But not nearly this bad. -- TheRock ~ Slow dramatic zoom-pan. Doesn't phase the hooded man. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Pirateking2000 01/07/12 4:26:00 PM #99: |
Exactly, like every other Quarian. She's uninteresting.
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foolm0ron 01/07/12 4:26:00 PM #100: |
From: PartOfYourWorld | #096 Well apparently when you live for 1000+ years and can't get STDs or accidentally pregnant, it's hard to resist being a stripper for a few decades -- _foolmo_ 'Most people at least try to say something funny. See foolmo's post as an example.' - The Real Truth ... Copied to Clipboard!
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