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wg64Z
12/08/11 11:43:00 AM
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Excluding gays/lesbians/uggos (Sounds bad, but watch the video)



Also, take an audio note at 2:35 and tell me if that doesn't sound like a very famous VG character quote.
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muddersmilk
12/08/11 11:45:00 AM
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Yes they can be.

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pjbasis
12/08/11 11:47:00 AM
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They can only be enemies.

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SlymDayspring
12/08/11 11:48:00 AM
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nope, men and women have never been friends ever in the history of mankind. not once.

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Vlado
12/08/11 11:55:00 AM
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Men and women CAN be just friends... Or, at the very least, a guy can be friends with a girl without being attracted to her. I'm speaking from personal experience. And I wasn't even in a long-term relationship in a few of the years I've been friends with that girl. I've just never been attracted to her, and the funniest thing is that she's actually quite pretty. Not my type or something, I guess.

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foolm0ron
12/08/11 11:58:00 AM
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Nope

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MICHALECOLE
12/08/11 12:03:00 PM
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Only if the girl is ugly.
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OmarsComin
12/08/11 12:04:00 PM
#8:


sort of. one of you will catch feelings somewhere along the way.
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VincentLauw
12/08/11 12:07:00 PM
#9:


Yeah, sure. Doesn't mean the guy doesn't want more most of the time though.
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wg64Z
12/08/11 12:08:00 PM
#10:


Only if the girl is ugly.

Refer to original post.
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MarvelousGerbil
12/08/11 12:09:00 PM
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If you're not immature, yeah.

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CrimsonOcean
12/08/11 12:11:00 PM
#12:


I have no idea how the breeding world works. All my male friends turned out to be gay, and I like to eat fish tacos. I have no concept of straight men or how they work.
I had one straight, male friend one time, but then one of my female friends dated him and they broke up. She of course got me in the split.

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Biolizard28
12/08/11 12:14:00 PM
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Ladder Theory, look it up.

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wg64Z
12/08/11 12:15:00 PM
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I have no idea how the breeding world works. All my male friends turned out to be gay, and I like to eat fish tacos. I have no concept of straight men or how they work.
I had one straight, male friend one time, but then one of my female friends dated him and they broke up. She of course got me in the split.


Do you not see a trend here? Why would a straight male want a lesbian friend? You (more than likely) have nothing in common other than a mutual interest in vagina.
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muddersmilk
12/08/11 12:15:00 PM
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sort of. one of you will catch feelings somewhere along the way.

And you can just as easily get over those feelings over time.

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muddersmilk
12/08/11 12:17:00 PM
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wg64Z posted...
Do you not see a trend here? Why would a straight male want a lesbian friend?

So how do you explain why straight women so often have gay male friends?

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Dark Young Link
12/08/11 12:17:00 PM
#17:


Sure. You don't talk to women just to get laid after all.



Well not all women.

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CrimsonOcean
12/08/11 12:17:00 PM
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wg64Z posted...
I have no idea how the breeding world works. All my male friends turned out to be gay, and I like to eat fish tacos. I have no concept of straight men or how they work.
I had one straight, male friend one time, but then one of my female friends dated him and they broke up. She of course got me in the split.

Do you not see a trend here? Why would a straight male want a lesbian friend? You (more than likely) have nothing in common other than a mutual interest in vagina.


Oh yeah, I absolutely see a trend. It's not like I'm on a crusade to make straight guy friends lol.

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Gifted_
12/08/11 12:24:00 PM
#19:


Short answer: Yes.
Long answer: Of course.

I've been friends with a girl that I'm not attracted to for the last 5 years now. We've had ups and downs in our friendship, but overall it's been the same as if she were 'one of the guys'. She's also attractive, which is cool; I'm just not attracted to her.

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wg64Z
12/08/11 12:29:00 PM
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She's also attractive, which is cool; I'm just not attracted to her.

So many lies.

Also, I don't know why you're bringing up Gay/Lesbian relationships into this, considering the first post said excluding them (For science, since a gay guy is obviously not going to be attracted to a woman, I'm really not trying to be prejudice or discriminative)

But, to answer nonetheless why girls have so many gay friends, its probably because they're hilarious and have a ton of fun, and have many similar interests.
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YetAnothrShadow
12/08/11 12:30:00 PM
#21:


I think you're gonna have to be PC about this.

" Can two people attracted to the sex the other person is of be friends ".

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The Real Truth
12/08/11 12:33:00 PM
#22:


In highschool, no. Later in life, sure.

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ZaziGuado
12/08/11 12:37:00 PM
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At this point in my life, not really. Well, not pure friends, at least.

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VF1MS Metal Siren
12/08/11 12:37:00 PM
#24:


How can this possibly not be a When Harry Met Sally topic

Here, for all you heathens

But seriously yes they can, just not between the ages of 15 and 25.

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wg64Z
12/08/11 12:39:00 PM
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Also, I'm reading this ladder theory site and it seriously looks like it was written by a sad, lonely, spiteful, pathetic loser.
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GuaiGaWarui
12/08/11 12:41:00 PM
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That video is fantastic. It needed to be said. It's like... girls obviously know that all the dudes they hang out with want to bang them, but they insist it's just a friendship. It's like they want a stockpile for whenever the breakup occurs. Girls are sluts.
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GenesisSaga
12/08/11 12:41:00 PM
#27:


No. It's just not possible to be friends with someone of the opposite gender if they're moderately attractive and you're both heterosexual. It just isn't.

/sarcasm

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CrimsonOcean
12/08/11 12:41:00 PM
#28:


I wasn't trying to bring gay relationships into this. I was just giving my perspective. ie. I have no idea how straight relationships work.

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foolm0ron
12/08/11 12:47:00 PM
#29:


Okay, if both the man and the woman are attractive and successful people who have plenty of people to sleep with, then sure they can have an entirely platonic relationship.

However, if one of them is an omega loser whose only friend of the opposite sex is this attractive person, as is the case with 99% of the internet, then no, they can't just 'be friends'.

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wg64Z
12/08/11 12:47:00 PM
#30:


That video is fantastic. It needed to be said. It's like... girls obviously know that all the dudes they hang out with want to bang them, but they insist it's just a friendship. It's like they want a stockpile for whenever the breakup occurs. Girls are sluts.

That video was not for you, it was for the normals.
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Pretty_Normal
12/08/11 12:51:00 PM
#31:


wg64Z posted...
That video is fantastic. It needed to be said. It's like... girls obviously know that all the dudes they hang out with want to bang them, but they insist it's just a friendship. It's like they want a stockpile for whenever the breakup occurs. Girls are sluts.

That video was not for you, it was for the normals.


What is this even supposed to mean? I'm entirely agreeing with the video.
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wg64Z
12/08/11 12:52:00 PM
#32:


I wasn't trying to bring gay relationships into this. I was just giving my perspective. ie. I have no idea how straight relationships work.

I know, I was mainly directing that comment at mudders.
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Dark Young Link
12/08/11 12:53:00 PM
#33:


I just don't get this "men have to be obsessed with getting laid" thing. Yes nature gives us a huge sexual drive, but that doesn't mean we have to submit to it 24/7. I understand the pain of getting friend zoned, but in my 23 years of life, I've seen no issue with being friends with attractive girls/women. Sure there are some lingering feelings with some of them, but that doesn't mean I don't want to be their friend.


I mean, there's a lot more to life than just sex. I guess I'm just odd for being so comfortable with a platonic relationship.

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wg64Z
12/08/11 12:58:00 PM
#34:


Sure there are some lingering feelings with some of them

Your whole point was moot the second I read this. That's not a real friendship. Do you have lingering feelings with your bro friends? Newp.
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wg64Z
12/08/11 12:59:00 PM
#35:


What is this even supposed to mean? I'm entirely agreeing with the video.

It means that the second you show support for anything you immediately de-value it by a large amount.

The door is that way ^ "Topic List"
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muddersmilk
12/08/11 12:59:00 PM
#36:


wg64Z posted...
I wasn't trying to bring gay relationships into this. I was just giving my perspective. ie. I have no idea how straight relationships work.

I know, I was mainly directing that comment at mudders.


I was responding to your own comment about why Crimson doesn't have straight male friends.

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Tomba42
12/08/11 1:00:00 PM
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I don't see why not, but a website filled with teens who think they are funny isn't the place to get a serious answer on the question for sure. >_>

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Pretty_Normal
12/08/11 1:01:00 PM
#38:


wg64Z posted...
What is this even supposed to mean? I'm entirely agreeing with the video.

It means that the second you show support for anything you immediately de-value it by a large amount.

The door is that way ^ "Topic List"


Yeah, that's a good way to get me to keep posting. Who the f*** even are you? Come by, I'll show you some devaluation.
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AlecTrevelyan006
12/08/11 1:02:00 PM
#39:


Yes if you are more interested in their hotter friends.

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Dark Young Link
12/08/11 1:04:00 PM
#40:


wg64Z posted...
Sure there are some lingering feelings with some of them

Your whole point was moot the second I read this. That's not a real friendship. Do you have lingering feelings with your bro friends? Newp.


Define "real friendship". Not to mention I said "some of them".

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Pretty_Normal
12/08/11 1:06:00 PM
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Dark Young Link posted...
wg64Z posted...
Sure there are some lingering feelings with some of them

Your whole point was moot the second I read this. That's not a real friendship. Do you have lingering feelings with your bro friends? Newp.

Define "real friendship". Not to mention I said "some of them".


Punctuation goes inside the quotes. Learn.
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wg64Z
12/08/11 1:06:00 PM
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Says the guy posting on 2 accounts with a combined karma of < 20
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Gifted_
12/08/11 1:16:00 PM
#43:


>>> So many lies.

No lies. I'm genuinely not attracted to her. It's one of the many reasons why I'm still friends with her, too. I have had friends that are girls in the past that I've wanted to get with - I'm not so much friends with them now. But this one girl, who I do know is considerably attractive, I'm not attracted to her in that way.

She's also not the only friend I have who is a girl - that is attractive - that I'm not attracted to, either.

I somewhat relate the idea to that of having an attractive sister. For example, my sister is attractive, but I'm not attracted to her. When people ask "is your sister attractive?", I generally say "Well, I'm not attracted to her, but yeah, I can see why she's attractive."

I can see why my friend who is a girl is attractive. I'm not oblivious to certain things. But at the same time I'm not attracted to her. She's just a really cool, level-headed person, and we have similar interests. We hang out a bunch, talk about a bunch of stuff, play video games, sports, etc. Just like my guy friends. Only, because she's a straight girl, and I'm a straight guy, there's the possibility of flirting. But we don't do that, because we don't see each other that way. We don't even bother to bring it up, because the idea of it sounds trivial and elementary. It's clear neither of us are attracted to each other in a romantic, or sexual, sense. It's the same way I don't see my guy friends in a romantic, or sexual, light. I'm not attracted to any of them.

I get that many guys don't feel this way - that they want to envision boning any girl they're close to - but I also know that it's not impossible for a straight girl and a straight guy to be friends. It's difficult to wrap your belief around it being possible when you yourself are living on the opposite end - like convincing half the population that the sky is purple when that half sees it as red. But, to all those who don't believe, all I can say is that it's possible.
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MoogleKupo141
12/08/11 1:18:00 PM
#44:


Pretty_Normal posted...
wg64Z posted...
What is this even supposed to mean? I'm entirely agreeing with the video.

It means that the second you show support for anything you immediately de-value it by a large amount.

The door is that way ^ "Topic List"

Yeah, that's a good way to get me to keep posting. Who the f*** even are you? Come by, I'll show you some devaluation.


"I'll show you some devaluation"? That's the worst threat ever.

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Biolizard28
12/08/11 1:25:00 PM
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From: foolm0ron | #029
Okay, if both the man and the woman are attractive and successful people who have plenty of people to sleep with, then sure they can have an entirely platonic relationship.

However, if one of them is an omega loser whose only friend of the opposite sex is this attractive person, as is the case with 99% of the internet, then no, they can't just 'be friends'.


Wishful thinking on your part.

Ladder Theory states that a man can only have a platonic relationship with a woman the he, one way or another, finds entirely unattractive. Otherwise, his goal is to get into her pants.

Nobody in this topic can say this is untrue without telling the same variation of the same story. "Oh I know this one chick she's like totally hot but I'm cool being her friend." They play into the theory without even knowing it. Just because you're alright with getting your sorry ass placed in the friend zone doesn't mean you've defied the logic that is the Ladder Theory.

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wg64Z
12/08/11 1:35:00 PM
#46:


No lies. I'm genuinely not attracted to her. It's one of the many reasons why I'm still friends with her, too. I have had friends that are girls in the past that I've wanted to get with - I'm not so much friends with them now. But this one girl, who I do know is considerably attractive, I'm not attracted to her in that way.

So, you're gay. Or you're lying. If you have fun with a girl, love hanging out/talking/doing whatever together AND she's attractive, those are the only 2 outcomes I can see.

Or she has a boyfriend and you're just a friend pawn.
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foolm0ron
12/08/11 1:37:00 PM
#47:


From: Biolizard28 | #045
Wishful thinking on your part.

Ladder Theory states that a man can only have a platonic relationship with a woman the he, one way or another, finds entirely unattractive. Otherwise, his goal is to get into her pants.

Nobody in this topic can say this is untrue without telling the same variation of the same story. "Oh I know this one chick she's like totally hot but I'm cool being her friend." They play into the theory without even knowing it. Just because you're alright with getting your sorry ass placed in the friend zone doesn't mean you've defied the logic that is the Ladder Theory.


You say Ladder Theory, I say Excuse Losers Use To Convince Themselves It's Not Their Fault.

If I want to be friends with a chick, I am putting her in my friend zone. Admittedly it's kinda hard part to get her to put me in her friend zone, but it's possible.

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ZaziGuado
12/08/11 1:43:00 PM
#48:


foolmo rejects the Ladder Theory and accepts the Mermaid Theory.

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Gifted_
12/08/11 1:45:00 PM
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>>> those are the only 2 outcomes I can see.

Exactly what I was talking about at the end of my previous post. These are the only two outcomes YOU can see, because you don't believe anything else is possible.

However, as someone who is neither gay, nor lying about this, nor a "friend pawn", I can tell you that what you can see does not definitely mean that it's all there is to see.

The notion of men and women beings friends without some kind of sexual attraction is 100% possible, though I'm guessing it's also not very common.

I equate it to wondering if other planets in the universe have any sentient lifeforms on them. Some people say no, but I think that, even though we don't know at the moment, the odds of there being life outside of Earth is very, very likely, given the sheer amount of space. The same can be said with male/female relationships. There are over seven billion people on this planet. The likelihood that no man or woman are friends without sexual attraction is so far out there that it's practically not possible for it to not exist somewhere.

Also the fact that I know it's possible firsthand helps as well (for me), but I think relating it to something like the existence of aliens is a decent comparison in terms of straight probability.
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wg64Z
12/08/11 1:48:00 PM
#50:


Exactly what I was talking about at the end of my previous post. These are the only two outcomes YOU can see, because you don't believe anything else is possible.

However, as someone who is neither gay, nor lying about this, nor a "friend pawn", I can tell you that what you can see does not definitely mean that it's all there is to see.

The notion of men and women beings friends without some kind of sexual attraction is 100% possible, though I'm guessing it's also not very common.


Umm, what? You can win any argument that way. Or lose, actually.

"The sky is red dude, just because YOU don't believe anything else is possible doesn't mean I'm lying."

The fact that you even said she is attractive, is YOU being attracted to her.

You're just lying/hiding something for what reason, I have no idea.
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